Seeking Salvation or Deliverance?

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Need Help?  Are you seeking deliverance or are you just seeking salvation?  You have come to the right place!

I am going to get right to the point regarding deliverance because I know you are desperate and need urgent help.  If you want salvation through Jesus Christ the Son of God please read steps No.1 and No.2).  If you need deliverance from either affliction or possession, please follow steps No.1) to No.6).

Here is what you need to do to for salvation and/or for deliverance:

This is for anyone; those who think they are Christian but are not sure, i.e, you do not have surety of salvation, those who are Charismatic, Pentecostal (believing in Baptism of the Holy Spirit by sign of gifts, i.e., speaking in so called ‘heavenly’ tongues, and or thinking they have the ability to heal people), Zionist (ZCC church), Anglican, Catholic, Calvinist, Seventh Day Adventist, Mormon, Jehovah’s Witnesses, etc. Those in the Occult / New Age, Wiccan, Pagan or an unbeliever be that an atheist, agnostic etc. Or if you are Hindu, Buddhist, Muslim, or any other religion like Bahá’í etc.

A NOTE:  Please do not go to a so called “deliverance minister/pastor” Or anyone who says they can cast demons out from you.  In this day and age there are so many fake deliverance ministers, chances are you will leave there with more demons attached to you than what you went with.  Anyone who speaks about Exorcism is Catholic, please do not go to an Exorcist.

“7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. 8 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.” (James 4:7-8)

A Christian but plagued by a demonic spirit in your home?

Please refer to No.3 and No.5.  If you are a Christian but were disobedient to God and sinned and brought a demonic entity into your life, or you sinned by bringing something of occult origin into your home and you find yourself plagued by a demonic entity.

“For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.” (Ecclesiastes 7:20).


“If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.”  (1 John 1:9)


Peter’s Sermon:

Acts 3:1-26 (KJV)

Peter preaching to the people that came to see a lame man restored to his feet

1 Now Peter and John went up together into the temple at the hour of prayer, being the ninth hour. 2 And a certain man lame from his mother’s womb was carried, whom they laid daily at the gate of the temple which is called Beautiful, to ask alms of them that entered into the temple; 3 Who seeing Peter and John about to go into the temple asked an alms. 4 And Peter, fastening his eyes upon him with John, said, Look on us. 5 And he gave heed unto them, expecting to receive something of them. 6 Then Peter said, Silver and gold have I none; but such as I have give I thee: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up and walk. 7 And he took him by the right hand, and lifted him up: and immediately his feet and ancle bones received strength. 8 And he leaping up stood, and walked, and entered with them into the temple, walking, and leaping, and praising God. 9 And all the people saw him walking and praising God: 10 And they knew that it was he which sat for alms at the Beautiful gate of the temple: and they were filled with wonder and amazement at that which had happened unto him. 11 And as the lame man which was healed held Peter and John, all the people ran together unto them in the porch that is called Solomon’s, greatly wondering.

Professes the cure not to have been wrought by his or John’s own power or holiness, but by God, and his son Jesus, and through faith in his name

12 And when Peter saw it, he answered unto the people, Ye men of Israel, why marvel ye at this? or why look ye so earnestly on us, as though by our own power or holiness we had made this man to walk?

Withal reprehending them for crucifying Jesus

13 The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied him in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go. 14 But ye denied the Holy One and the Just, and desired a murderer to be granted unto you; 15 And killed the Prince of life, whom God hath raised from the dead; whereof we are witnesses. 16 And his name through faith in his name hath made this man strong, whom ye see and know: yea, the faith which is by him hath given him this perfect soundness in the presence of you all.

Which because they did it through ignorance, and that thereby were fulfilled God’s determinate counsel, and the Scriptures

17 And now, brethren, I wot that through ignorance ye did it, as did also your rulers. 18 But those things, which God before had shewed by the mouth of all his prophets, that Christ should suffer, he hath so fulfilled.

He exhorts them by repentance and faith to seek remission of their sins, and salvation in the same Jesus

19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord; 20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: 21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began. 22 For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you. 23 And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people. 24 Yea, and all the prophets from Samuel and those that follow after, as many as have spoken, have likewise foretold of these days. 25 Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed. 26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.

1) Salvation – Diligently seek Jesus Christ the Son of God:

“Without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.” (Hebrews 11:6)

Do you want to be born again? I want you to pray this sinners prayer out loud, diligently seeking Jesus Christ as your Saviour.  Please note this prayer will not save you, it’s what in your heart!  Are you truly seeking Jesus Christ the Son of God? Are you truly seeking to be born again? Are you truly seeking to change your ways?  Below is an example of a prayer, you can pray your own prayer if you want.

“Heavenly Father, I come before you in the name of Your Son, Jesus Christ. I know that Jesus Christ is the only Way, the Truth, and the Life; and is the only Mediator between You and man. Heavenly Father, I believe that Your only begotten Son Jesus Christ paid the price for mankind through His sacrifice on the cross, He was buried, and rose again 3 days later.  I acknowledge to You Lord Jesus Christ that I am a sinner. You shed Your precious Blood on the cross for me, Your blood washes away my sin, covers me and cleanses me.

I am truly sorry for the sinful, shameful life I have lived.   I want to repent Lord Jesus, I want to turn away from my sins. Please forgive me of all my sins Lord Jesus, I earnestly repent.  Forgive me of my sins as I forgive anyone who has ever sinned against me, I hold no grudges anymore.

You are my Saviour Lord Jesus, only you. I truly desire to serve You, Lord Jesus.  I pray that You would help me to hear Your still small voice.  Heavenly Father, I want to be baptised by the Holy Spirit, I want the Holy Spirit to come and abide in me, I desire to be led by Your Holy Spirit so I can faithfully follow You and obey all of Your commandments.  I want the conviction of the Holy Spirit in my life when I sin.

I want to thank you for the forgiveness of ALL my sins, and the glorious gift of salvation and everlasting life You have given me.  At this very moment I acknowledge that Jesus Christ the Son of God is my Savior and according to His Word, right now I am born again, in Your mighty precious Name.

Thank You Lord Jesus, for coming into my life and thank You for saving me. Amen”

2) Continue the prayer if you need deliverance from demonic affliction – please pray the following:

Say the following with conviction and absolute FAITH that Jesus Christ IS WHO HE SAYS HE IS:

“Heavenly Father, dear Lord Jesus Christ, I am demonically afflicted, I ask that you please remove all demonic affliction and or possession from me. I pray this in your MIGHTY name! Thank you Lord Jesus!

If you are fasting:

Stop fasting, you are making your mind weaker and weaker that you can’t spiritually fight off a demonic attack

3) Getting rid of all ungodly things in your home.

You need to throw away ALL the non Christian books you have (excluding your bible, get a KJV bible and if necessary a bible in your language – you can use the KJV bible to compare verses to make sure the translation is correct.) Throw away so called Christian books as well – if you are certain the book is genuinely Christian please keep it.  Throw away all CD’s and DVD’s that are not Christian, you can keep anything that you are certain is genuinely Christian, but if you are not 100% sure please just get rid of it.  Break those music CD’s that you have – yes even the so called ‘Christian’ ones, you have no idea if they are really Christian, probably not – Hillsong is not Christian. Any so called anointed objects, throw them away.  Any so called Christian paintings or occult pictures/paintings, tear them up and throw them away. Anything on your pc/laptop that is not biblical delete it.  Any pictures of ‘Jesus’ – this is not Jesus (no one know what He looks like), tear it up and throw it away.

You will remove everything ungodly from your house, even that African mask you have on the wall, throw it away, any statues – throw it away. Any gifts you received that have any kind of spiritual connotation, throw it away.  Anything to do with Angels – throw it away. Prayer cards – throw it away. If you are in the occult / New Age / Wicca etc., throw away everything, books, jewelry, statues, ritual items, including all your black clothes.  Any Halloween items in your house, throw them away.  If you are a Buddhist, Hindu or Muslim etc., please throw away anything that connects you to these religions, including; religious texts, books, statues, paintings, jewelry and religious clothes etc.

4) If you have anything in your life that you are holding onto that is ungodly.

  • Ask Jesus Christ to show you anything that ungodly in your life.
  • You will recognize the sin(s) through the conviction of the Holy Spirit.
  • Ask Jesus Christ for forgiveness of these sins, and change your ways through prayer by asking Jesus Christ to help you overcome your sins, and sin no more. (Keeping Ecclesiastes 7:20 in mind).

For instance, did you go to a church where someone laid hands on you.  If you have had ‘FIRE’ called down on you or the church congregation you were sitting in. (See article on Demonic FIRE spirit in church” If you speak in so called ‘heavenly’ tongues.  A false baptism of the holy spirit in water. Think of things in your life from the very personal right down to the fact that you smoke (if you smoke) ask Jesus Christ to deliver you. If you have a drinking problem – most people deny they have a problem, if you can’t go without it you have a problem, if you like getting drunk at parties ask forgiveness for this and ask Jesus Christ to deliver you. Drug addiction, ask Jesus Christ to deliver you. If you attended 1 yoga class or more, if you meditated or soaked, centered yourself, got hooked into watching ASMR videos on Youtube, etc,.  Belief in Reincarnation, Evolution, Feminism or the belief in Karma etc.

Christian books that you bought or were given to you about peoples so called visits to Heaven and Hell and other strange doctrines or anything anointed be that a prayer cloth, oil or painting etc.  If you experienced any electricity or feelings of heat come over your body, if you convulsed, or where ‘Slain in the Spirit’, went through a fire tunnel, etc,. If you had hands laid on you, or if people stood around you with their hands held over you and you prayed to receive ‘healing’ or ‘deliverance’, please ask for forgiveness.  If you were supposedly ‘healed’ by a preacher who laid hands on you etc. Please read article: Can Satan Heal?  If someone ‘prophesied’ over you in any way, told you your prophetic fortune of what God has in store for you, please ask forgives for this.

If you struggle with certain things in your life that you feel you just don’t want to let go of, or you feel like something is preventing you or holding you back, realise that this is Satan at work who does not want you to ask Jesus Christ for forgiveness so that you can be delivered of any stubborn demonic entities that are attached to you.  As for forgiveness for following false teaching like TB Joshua for instance right down to the so called innocent preachers like John MacArthur. The Holy Spirit will convict you of who you followed and need to repent of.  Mention if you practiced breathing exercises, or ‘silence’ where you cleared you mind. Ask for forgiveness if you have committed adultery.  Had an abortion.  If you watch or are addicted to Pornography.  Homosexuality. If you are abusive in any way to your spouse and or children, ask for forgiveness and ask Jesus Christ to be delivered from this sin in Jesus Christ’s Name.

Mention if you were visited by an angel or something posing as Jesus Christ. Mention if you hear God ‘audibly’, as in a loud voice. Mention if you practiced entering into the ‘presence of God’, or wanted to ‘hear God’s voice’. Mention if you have dreams and or visions or had your dreams interpreted or if you’ve ever been to see a Spiritualist, i.e., Tarot reader or a Medium of any kind (including Pet Mediums who speak to your dead / or run away pets) etc. Mention if you had an awakening or illumination while meditating etc. If you ever partook in a Freemasonry ritual or any other secret society ritual.  Fire walking. Practiced Martial Arts. Had Hypnosis, Reiki or been for Acupuncture to manipulate the flow of energy (Chakras) within your body etc., please ask forgives for this.  Are you experiencing sleep paralysis which is demonic? Rebuke Satan in Jesus Mighty Name to leave you immediately

Important:  There is no such thing as generational curses.

“The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.” (Deu 24:16).

But please ask for forgiveness and ask Jesus Christ to remove any demonic affliction in your life where you willfully or were forced to partake in anything demonic with family members or friends, for example; a Tarot card reading, or played with a home made Ouija board or Glassy Glassy (there are many other games kids play) especially in school or parties. Even that Magic 8 Ball ‘toy’ is far from being just a toy.  Children watching evil cartoons on TV is a brilliant way for Satan to gain entry into a child’s life.  It happened many years ago to someone I know personally who was tormented by demons during the day on a daily basis just through watching, accepting and enjoying Thundercats, Ninja Turtles and some other evil cartoons.

If you can see demonic spirits, ‘ghosts’ or have seen people that have passed away etc., please ask forgiveness for this, as this is clairvoyance and you need to be delivered from this.  Also mention music, including so called ‘Christian’ music that you are addicted to listening too. If you are addicted to heavy metal music, including Christian heavy metal (There is no such thing as Christian heavy metal, it’s a lie from the pit of hell), rock music or even pop music for that matter please ask forgiveness for this, you need deliverance from this, music and lyrics plays a big role in the life of so many who think it’s not harming them spiritually, but it is. See here: Music: Compromising God’s Standards to Accommodate Youth.

There are so many things I have not mentioned because there are just too many evil things in this world to list. Ask Jesus Christ to remind you of all things in your life, let the Holy Spirit convict you of your sin and repent of it.

The crux of deliverance is this:  You are asking Jesus to forgive you not only of these things you have done, but you are telling Jesus the reason why you did these things, and you want to be forgiven for this!  You let Jesus know that you sinned because you wanted to choose evil instead of Him, but now you are making a FINAL STAND and you are choosing JESUS CHRIST over Satan and you are CHANGING YOUR WAYS – YOU WILL NEVER TURN YOUR BACK on Jesus Christ again.

Ask Jesus Christ to remove ALL demons from you and break ALL chains of demonic affliction/possession over your life. Ask Jesus Christ to deliver you. Rebuke Satan in Jesus Christs’ MIGHTY NAME to leave you immediately!

To break free from very strong demonic affliction is not easy and can take time if you are not spiritually strong enough.  There were times were the Disciples struggled to cast demons out of people, and had to pray long and hard and needed to fast.

Mar 9:28-29 “And when he was come into the house, his disciples asked him privately, Why could not we cast him out? And he said unto them, This kind can come forth by nothing, but by prayer and fasting.”

5) You might have the demon that is in you or attached to you manifest in your home:

If this happens, I know it will be difficult but do not fear, it’s only there to cause fear.  Do not communicate with it, do not request it’s name, you use the Word of God only to force it to leave, it has NO choice, Jesus Christ’s Word is FINAL,  Jesus Christ has CONQUERED Satan at the cross, you already have the VICTORY through Jesus Christ the Son of God:

You can read the following verses out aloud. This is not vein repetition, you can read all these verses or choose your own from the list below – you don’t have to mention the verses at the end as Satan knows the bible well:

You say out loud in TOTAL FAITH:  “Jesus Christ the Son of God says;

“Ye shall not fear them: for the LORD your God he shall fight for you” (Deu 3:22)

“The God of my rock; in him will I trust: he is my shield, and the horn of my salvation, my high tower, and my refuge, my saviour; thou savest me from violence, I will call on the LORD, who is worthy to be praised: so shall I be saved from mine enemies” (2 Sam 22:3-4)

“No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD.” (Isa 54:17)

“So shall they fear the name of the LORD from the west, and his glory from the rising of the sun. When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the LORD shall lift up a standard against him.” (Isa 59:19)

“Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.”  (Matt 4:10)

“Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels” (Matt 25:41)

“Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.” (Luke 10:19)

“But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.” (1 Cor 15:57)

“Now thanks be unto God, which always causeth us to triumph in Christ, and maketh manifest the savour of his knowledge by us in every place.” (2 Cor 2:14)

“For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh: 4 (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;) Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ.” (2 Cor 10:3-5)

I will be strong in the Lord, I will “Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” (Eph 6:11-12)

“And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.” (Cor 2:15)

“And the Lord shall deliver me from every evil work, and will preserve me unto his heavenly kingdom: to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.” (2 Tim 4:18)

“Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you” (Js 4:7)

“Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world”  (1 John 4:4)

“For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith. Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God.” (1 John 5:4-5)

Rebuke Satan in Jesus Christ’s name and tell him to leave your home IMMEDIATELY. 

Say “Jesus Christ commands you to leave this house immediately, this home belongs to Jesus Christ the Son of God. LEAVE!”

If need be repeat all the verses below again, again this is not vein repetition, if you want choose your own bible verses please by all means do so. Keep repeating God’s Word until the demonic entity has fled.

“Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.”  (Matt 4:10)

“Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels” (Matt 25:41)

“And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a show of them openly, triumphing over them in it.” (Cor 2:15)

“But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.” (1 Cor 15:57)

Say out loud: “[I] Submit [myself] yourselves therefore to God. [I will] Resist the devil, and he will flee from [me] you” (Js 4:7)”

Say “Jesus Christ commands you to leave this house immediately, this home belongs to Jesus Christ the Son of God. LEAVE!”

Say this with confidence, as Jesus Christ has already won the battle and because you are now a born again child of God, that battle has been won for you and you have the authority to use Jesus Christ’s name because you are now a child of God. Keep saying this until all demonic manifestations have left your home. You will get resistance, and they might try stop you by confusing your mind that you can’t think properly, or tell you that you are not strong enough.  It’s not you who is strong, it’s Jesus Christ the Son of God who is the One who defeated Satan on the cross who is strong.  Just keep using God’s Word against them so that they will leave your home and your life, in Jesus Christ’s name.  Important to note:  When Jesus was in the wilderness being tested by Satan (Matthew 4:1-11) He did not have a conversation with Satan when Satan tested Him, He quoted the Word of God only against Satan and he fled.

Thank Jesus Christ from the bottom of your heart and worship Him by thanking Him for what He has done for you. Start reading your bible (not other books) and if you are going to a charismatic church please stop going, and stop following all false doctrine.  How do you know if what you are following or believing in is false?  You test it against the Word of God, if it does not tie up 100% to what the bible says, then it is false.  You stop immediately, ask Jesus for forgiveness and move on to the Truth.  Please read:  Testing the Spirits – True Spiritual Discernment

“Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:” (1 Peter 5:8)

6) How do we stop Satan from attacking us after we are born again?

We put on the armour of God with God’s help: You gird your waist with truth, put on breastplate of righteousness, shod your feet with preparation of the gospel of Jesus Christ, put on the shield of faith which quenches attacks from Satan, put on the helmet of salvation by believing that Jesus Christ died for your sins and rose again, and finally the sword of the spirit which is the Word of God.  You apply these pieces of armour daily, you arm yourself by obeying God’s commandments, repenting to Jesus Christ when you sin and ask Jesus Christ to help you to not sin again, and in doing so guard yourself against any attack from Satan.  See bible scripture below:

Ephesians 6:10-18 

The Whole Armor of God

10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord and in the power of His might.

11 Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

12 For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.

13 Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.  

14 Stand therefore, having girded your waist with truth, having put on the breastplate of righteousness,

15 and having shod your feet with the preparation of the gospel of peace;16 above all, taking the shield of faith with which you will be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked one.

17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God;

18 praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, being watchful to this end with all perseverance and supplication for all the saints-

If you need more help regarding deliverance or what it is that caused Satan to attack you, please comment below and we will try to help you.

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Deborah Ellish is the author of the above article. Discerning the World is an internet Christian Ministry based in Johannesburg South Africa. Tom Lessing and Deborah Ellish both own Discerning the World. For more information see the About this Website page below the comments section.

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Deborah (Discerning the World) wrote:

Dear Nita

Some questions for you:

– When were you saved?
I was saved 4 months ago.

– What church did you go to and did anyone lay hands on you?
I didnt go to any church yet.

– Can you explain to us how you were saved?
Well , it happened after I started having doubts about islam. I didnt became a christian immediately after I left islam because I was having doubts about christianity too. I just didnt know what to believe anymore.
After some months I decided to read the bible and somehow I came to belive in Jesus.

– Did you go to healers before or after you were saved? you said “…I did go to healers for some health issues, some of them recited quran, some were energy healers or whatever…’
Those were all before I was saved ,years ago.

– Why were you trying to balance your hormones? Was it menopause? Or did you do this for another reason? Taking herbs / medicine for health reasons is not demonic.
I took herbs for my pcos.

– When did you listen to these binereal beats? Before or after you were saved? Binereal beats is not the mark of the beast. How did you find out binereal beats were satanic?
I listened to all these things before I was saved. I read in some site about them being satanic and harmful. And some subliminal channels I listened too were exposed for being satanic.

– How long ago did you go to this deliverance woman after you were saved?
2 months after I guess. I was via phone, I didnt go to her. She was a very nice woman, I dont things there was anything wrong about her. She didnt like charismatics and these popular preachers.

– This burping is demonic, this kundilini you got through Islam is demonic, you are not free, but Jesus Christ WILL set you free if you stop seeking false teaching and false healers for deliverance etc.
I know islam is a false religion, but im not sure if I got it from it. Kundalini spirit is unknown to muslims. I dont know exactly how I got it.

– Many Christians are saved yet plagued by demonic spirits because of false teachings and healers they go too.

-You pray to Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour and as your best friend. There is no set time on how long to pray, speaking to Him throughout the day is prayer, thank Him for looking after you, praise Him, tell Him your troubles and ask Him for help.
-When you read your bible do you understand what it’s saying?
Yeah, I think I do.

You said “When I first asked for the Holy Spirit, I have to be honest, I was looking to what would happen, would I experience something supernatural. I have understood my errors and now I dont look for experiencies”

Great, that you do not seek feelings and experience!

(2 Corinthians 5:7) For we walk by faith, not by sight


These days I’m feeling the kundalini more intensively.
Why is this happening?
I’ve repented of all my sins.
Am I really saved?

What do you think of cupping therapy (hijama)?
I had it done years ago, but only in two points in my upper back. And they took only a little blood from me, less than usually.


Dear Deborah,

When I first left islam, I went through a time of being confused and sad. I wanted to know what is the truth of this life. I knew there is a Creator, life just couldnt be meaninless.
Researching about the bible, I came across many sites saying christianity is false and offering their arguments. That made sad bc I didnt know what to believe anymore.
So then I was reading some wierd stuff, which apparently were new age. They only made me more confused. One day I said to myself to stop reading to that nonsense.
At that time I still belived there was a Creator.
I was saying to myself there Is a God, but how does He want us to believe in him if doesnt reveal Himself.
So I decided to start reading the Bible. At first I had doubts, I was reading it with a critical eye.
But now I am convinced Jesus Christ is the truth. He is God incarnate.
I hope I never turn my back on Him, that would worse than never knowing Him right?
I’m afaid what I deny Him bc of torture or something like that. Would I loose my salvation?

I believe I got more spirits listening to subliminals and frequencies. I felt the kundalini more since then.
These days I feel it more in my ovaries, I guess satan wants to fool me with healing. But I want nothing from satan. I’ve had it for years but never got any healing from kundalini, but now that I accepted Christ he’s thinks hes going to make himself wanted with fake healings.
So I rebuke him with scriptures?


Thank you for kind responses Deborah.
Im grateful.
God bless you!


I stumbled across this site last night. Wow. I have a lot of research to do. What about Joyce Meyers? I have just moved to Lanseria from Durban and was looking to attend Hands of Compassion, (Rhema but different pastors). Perhaps there are others on this site that live close to me whom I can connect with?

Amy Blossom
Amy Blossom

hi what an eye opener. Was here a year ago but pop in here as I’ve got data.

Just wanting to inform learn more on this subject.

Was amazed while reading from the top thru to the last comments.

OMW check many similar things happened to me..laying on of hands for one. People praying for me….charismatic ect…..from a RC background but left many years ago…to a full gospel. Then lastly to Hatfield Christian church sorry
Was water baptized 3 times. 1st time was coerced to utter in tongues…then was told not a child of God until holy spirit enters!!!….I was sooo frustrated I gave up searching for holy spirit……I know better NOW after reading here…..what an awesome encouragement and peace of mind I have gained today. yahoo thank you and God bless you Tom and Deborah xx thank up

Amy Blossom
Amy Blossom

Question… Is there ANY transferal of any of these spirits if one buys food from Indian deli shops..or any of their spice goods…ect?

2) what do I do if the owner gives me a sting of their beads and a small container of their holy water from Mecca. ..Answer…I was convicted to dump these items along the road on my way home…since then our “friendships “had declined and we only now greet out of mutual respect.

Amy Blossom
Amy Blossom

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Thank you for this inspiring site.

Nikki Comley
Nikki Comley

Hi Tom & Deborah, Thank you very much for you wonderful website! I found it last night when I was searching for help on deliverance from demons. I’ve been visiting a pastor for assistance on deliverance from demons and almost feel like I’m getting worse since I started seeing her and also feel like some of the things she says and some of her behavior isn’t what I expected. I’m also very confused on the whole inherited ancestral curses and asked the Lord for clarification. Some of the scriptures that you pointed out really stood out to me and had me thinking that going to her and her church is not the way to go. The other thing that I wanted to ask you about was while I was there during the service yesterday I noticed a wall-hanging on the back wall that stood out to me while I was walking out and it really gave me a bad feeling. It was made of fabric, like a flag and the symbol on it was the star of David and coming out of the top of it looked like flames. I’ve never seen anything like it before and couldn’t find anything on it however when I saw it, I got a bad feeling about it which is usually the Holy Spirit speaking to me. The other thing that happened to me during service was that I had to leave in the middle of service because I got terrible anxiety so bad that I couldn’t calm down. The way that she is trying to help me get rid of the demons is to speak to them during our sessions and get their names, and get them to release the holds they have on me. I read a lot in the bible and the disciples had to cast the demons out of people to get rid of them back then and I love your idea of your suggestion of writing everything in a list, confessing all of your sins, etc. but if people needed a disciple to cast them out then, why wouldn’t a person need a disciple to cast them out now? I was really excited when I read your suggestion and am going to try it and I really hope it works but I’m still a little skeptical. Do you know if your suggestion has worked for many people?

Ak Dixon
Ak Dixon


I am sooooo blessed by the truth on your website. I’m from Mississippi in the USA. The church that I attend has a few members from Africa. I love my people!. I am  trying to learn more of their culture!


How can I address the false teachings with my Pastor? (I’m a new member but I have seen many “churches” in error plead the blood for years). I stopped this practice years ago. I’m new to their church & want to be led by God’s Spirit & have wisdom when approaching him & his wife

Question #2:

Do believers need demons cast out because I didn’t find it in scriptures?

Scripture tells believers In James 4:7 submit to God , resist the devil, he will flee,

Romans 6:13‭-‬14 KJV says Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God. For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

Also God gives us temperance (self control)
I believe we yeild to evil but a born again Holy Spirit filled believer can not be demon possessed.
Just as Judas was chosen but not a born again believer, Jesus said he had a devil(he was the adversary) I dont find alot ot these practices in the Word.
Scriptures speak of a man who was possessed & foamed at the mouth, a man possessed with legion , a man in church cried out but scripture does not say if these were believers or not.
These scriptures are being used to validate deliverance ministry in the church that I attend now even churches that I visit & were apart of in the past.

The deliverance ministry have bags & cans for vomiting etc) .

Do we call demons out by name or just say come out unclean spirit?

Some claim the bible is just a picture & we dont have the whole picture of what Jesus & His disciples did so therefore God gives us wisdom& revelation on how to cast out demons . (Such as a book called pigs in the parlor that many churches have used to open these doors up)

Do we pray against spirits or ask God to rebuke them? Michael the angel said to satan, “the Lord rebukes thee” he didnt say I rebuke thee. I wonder because scriptures talk of speaking evil against dignities 2nd peter 2:10

Jesus Christ & the disciples fast & prayed to cast them out, or commanded them to go but never tried to force demons out by pushing down on people’s heads or tried to break a neck forceing a demon out

I was assaulted in a 2006 service & honestly thought I was going to die after going up for prayer..I began to cry out so loud because they all were hurting my head & neck laying hands. My cry was mistaken for demonic possession so they got even more rough on my head & neck. Some even knew that I was crying out for help .. they knew that I was being assaulted but they did nothing to stop it because of fear, I assumed.
Also because strongholds were in this church, even a Jezebel’s spirit was in operation there for years, the love had vanished & people did what was right in their own eyes…meanness, hatred, bitterness, backstabbing, lust, etc had taken over this was once powerful, healing, break throughs, etc but the enemy infiltrated it so badly, many became deceived., others left as I did that same service in 2006
Yes i was angry a long time after an elder told me that she & others witnessed it & knew that my screams were from being assaulted but they did nothing to help me as a baby Christian..
I see this happening tooooo much..(it’s always the head being pushed on so harshly or mistaken a cry for demonic possession or a cry means the person has sinned or going through may mean joy or God just released me from a thing & tears of “thank you Jesus, I’m grateful!)

Question #3

How do I address the leaders about laying hands on me or others when I’m crying? Some think that every cry or tear means you’re demonically possessed when sometimes all it can be is a need for comfort , support, or just a cry for another soul.


When outside speakers come to preach or even ones that I attend church with,-How do I keep their hands off me when they walk to my seat to lay hands on my head to pray when I know their is false doctrine or something ungodly in their fruit

I’ve searched many churches  but haven’t found one perfect church, nor a perfect believer, or perfect soul. Now I know that I never will, I just want to help them see the light. 

The pastor that I’m under has an approachable spirit but since im new, I dont know how to present it because they have been in this for years 

Thank you in advance & God bless you, your families, & Africa!!!

From AK

Ak Dixon
Ak Dixon

Dear Deborah (Discerning the World)

Thank you for responding and I pray for your healing in the name of Jesus Christ.

As I read your article/website on pleading the blood, I didn’t realize that your website had many other articles that I had not read before. I was searching pleading the blood & your article popped up.

I spoke to soon & said that I am soooooo blessed by the truth on your site, only meaning what I had read (pleading the blood is not scriptural, I agree , it is not found in the KJV New testament)

I don’t want to come off as someone that I’m not (as if I have read your entire site which I haven’t) so I will do more reading here & seek God’s word on what you have published.

Thank you again and I will take your advice on possibly writing the pastor a letter.

As far as trying to learn of the cultures of Africa, I want to know where their head is, their beliefs, what is their background, etc because I do want to know who is laboring among me as others want to know about me when I am new to them.

Although, I am aware of the darkness of different cultures, I want to show love by fixing a dish from their country, maybe write a thank you note in their language, etc, something simple & kind because they are genuinely kind (the people from Africa that I have encountered ).

Also, could you touch on how to truly forgive, & not have any resentment towards those who have hurt us?

Even those who walk in their own ways & dont see SELF, who constantly misjudge, misunderstand, harass us, teach on us when they have totally misjudged & thise who come against us without a cause.

Thank you Debra again

Tom (Discerning the World)

Hi Ak You wrote:

Also, could you touch on how to truly forgive, & not have any resentment towards those who have hurt us?

Even those who walk in their own ways & don’t see SELF, who constantly misjudge, misunderstand, harass us, teach on us when they have totally misjudged & thise who come against us without a cause.

The very first thing to need to do is to go on your knees and thank God that you are not greater than your Master.

The disciple is not above his master, nor the servant above his lord. It is enough for the disciple that he be as his master, and the servant as his lord. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub, how much more shall they call them of his household? (Mat 10:24-25).

Only God can make people see their SELF. What your own SELF needs to do is to die to those who hurt you and praise Jesus for giving you an opportunity to be conformed into His image.


I was wondering if you could email me. I would like to discuss the deliverance process with you on a more personal level. I am needing some help as I experienced the awakening and more. I would like to explain everything in detail but by sending you an email so I can get rid of it permanently.


Dear DTW, I have learned so much from this website, thank you. Please assist me with brutal honesty and don’t hold back. I am seeking real salvation and deliverance for some years now. I was so sinfull, and one day realised that my lifestile must be making Jesus cry. I started going to church and pray and read Bible obsesively serious. The next night I saw Jesus standing in front of my eyes, he was crying so sadly, I couldn’t bare to see this. I was so upset and couldn’t tell anybody, so I landed in hospital with anziety and stress. I then wanted to get water babtism and called a pastor from a pentacostal church and made an appointment to see him and he agreed to babtise me although I was sprinkeled with water as an infant in the Reformed church. Soon after my water babtism I became aflicted with a demonic attack that is unthinkable. I had awfull blasphemous thoughts that made me scared and tired me out. I was fighting it all day long, non stop. I then realised that things in the church was strange and there was tipical pentacostal things, the list goes on and on. The strange unknown tongues, the “profits’, the jumping people, the trembling people, those with twitches, dreams, visions. the laying on of hands, the faith healers, to name just a few. I think I fell from the frying pan of sin into the fire of the false church, and the false Jesus. About 5 years later, now I have started to see the truth and calm down. I thank God for you, because few people will be honest and tell you to your face that you are running after the false Jesus. hat

Tom (Discerning the World)

Hi Seeker

You asked us to assist you with brutal honesty. So here goes. You have been brutally deceived when another Jesus appeared to you weeping over your lifestyle. First of all, the Jesus of the Bible will never appear to sinners and cry uncontrollably to convince them of sin, righteousness, and judgment. Jesus Christ sent the Holy Spirit to do the work of conviction, and as you may know, the Holy Spirit is a spirit whom you cannot see with your natural eyes. (John 16:7-8), which again proves that the Jesus you saw was a false one.

Secondly, there is only one place in the Bible where it says “Jesus wept.” (John 11:35). Some say he wept because Lazarus died. Why would He weep over a person whom He knew He was going to raise from the dead? He wept, not because Lazarus had died. He wept because of their unbelief.

Thirdly, Jesus never weeps over peoples’ sinful lives. In fact, He is angry with them. “He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. (John 3:36).

For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; (Romans 1:18).

Fourthly, water baptism cannot save you. Pentecostals, not unlike the Roman Catholic Church, believe that water baptism administered by one of their clergies opens heaven’s doors to you. That’s pure blasphemy. No wonder you became afflicted by demonic attacks.

Finally. Starting to see the truth and calming down are also not salvation. What you must do is call on the Name of the Lord. (Acts 2:21). Only those who realize they are lost sinners on their way to everlasting perdition in hell will come to Jesus and call on his name. It is not enough to realize that you are such a sinful creature. Most people readily admit that they are sinners but very few acknowledge that they are lost because, as they say, they try to do good. (Matthew 9:12). Even Pharoah admitted that he had sinned and that his people were wicked. (Exodus 9:27; 10:16). Was he saved?


I was oppressed with Lordship Salvation, which is a demonic doctrine. I did not need to throw away all my books and say such a convoluted sinful prayer for deliverance. Too much emphasis on repenting of sin is not even good for discipleship. To change my mind about any book, organization or site with demonic connections was enough. Jesus is sufficient for me, and I live by grace.

Tom (Discerning the World)

Hi Jason65

You said:

“Too much emphasis on repenting of sin is not even good for discipleship.

You know, that’s exactly what Jesus said before He went to the cross, “My death on the cross is to encourage you not to put too much emphasis on sin because it hampers discipleship.” Who determines the degree of emphasis one must place on the repenting of sin to know exactly what the perfect emphasis is? YOU?


Edit: “sinner’s prayer” not “sinful prayer”

I like what 1 John 1:7 says.

Tom (Discerning the World)


It’s always a good thing to read a verse in the context it appears. So let’s do that now.

But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.  (1 John 1:7)
If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.  (1 John 1:8)
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.  (1 John 1:9)
If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.  (1 John 1:10)

Wow, did you see that – THE SINNER’S PRAYER?


Your sinner’s prayer is a treadmill and contradicts Galatians 5:1. I can’t name all the times I was angry or hated someone.

Tom (Discerning the World)


How on earth does the confession of sins contradict Galatians 5:1? In Galatians Paul talks about the bondwoman (the Law) which the Jews desired to put themselves under again, suggesting that they too thought they were able to keep the law and had no need to tread the mill. If you can’t remember all of your sins, which, of course, none of us can, anger and hatred are two of the most dangerous because it is akin to murder, and I am pretty sure the Holy Spirit must have convicted you of them. If not, then you have a huge problem. You’d better start learning how to tread the mill when there is a multitude of times when you are/were angry and hated someone.