Deon Hockey – Bringing the Toronto Blessing ‘Fire Serpent’ to a Church Near You

Deon HockeyDeon Hockey a South African pastor from Healing Ministries International is a Faith healer who has seen many a so called genuine healing take place under his hands.   Deon is affiliated with Pastor Steve Hill from the USA who started the Pensacola Brownsville Revival (a lead on from the Toronto Blessing).

“It was back in 1991 at a Benny Hinn Crusade that we see laughter break out among the children and  width=Rodney Howard-Browne is on stage and called forward by Hinn. Rodney, God has given you a great anointing for this. Let the holy laughter hit them in Jesus’ mighty name…it’s coming [zapped him]…. Pick him up. Now release it on the people, Rodney!” Hinn laid hands on his forehead (transferring the anointing) and he goes down. He then picks him up and inaugurates him into ministry by saying go ahead Rodney. Rodney starts by saying “I command you to laugh in Jesus name “and repeats over and over ad nauseam. This is not the polished stick that the world was exposed to on TBN, airing him on Praise the Lord program or at the Carpenters Home Church. It was raw and awkward but worked nonetheless on those  with weak minds that are willing to receive a suggestion they think is of the Holy Spirit…..

 width=Rodney commanded  Be filled right now. In the name of Jesus, I command you to laugh right now. I loose the joy of the Lord right now. In the name of Jesus, let it bubble out of your belly right now in Jesus’ name. Let the joy of the Lord bubble out of your belly. Lord make everybody drunk in the Holy Ghost. Make everybody drunk in the Holy Ghost. In the name of Jesus [repeated 10 times]….Double dose!” (clip from A Plague in the Land video by Alan Morrison available from CWM)” ….

[John] Arnott of the Toronto Vineyard  sought  this  by constantly going to Benny Hinn, Rodney Howard-Browne, and Claudio Freidzon. At the same time, Randy Clark, St. Louis Vineyard pastor, received the laughing anointing by Browne at Kenneth Hagin’s Rhema Bible Church in Tulsa, Oklahoma . When the “Revival” breaks out at Toronto Vineyard Jan. 20 1994 width= there is absolutely no mention of Browne’s connection with Toronto through Clark, however Arnott does explain how it is transferred from his Church to others, as well as to his Church. “What happens is, there’s a transference of His anointing where, not only do you see it, not only do you experience it for yourself, but you’re going to take it home to your people.” (John Arnott, Pastor of the Toronto Airport Fellowship, pastor’s Meeting, October 19, 1994)   This proves it is not a sovereign move of God but people have to travel to get it, to bring it back to others, to get it. It is passed on by impartation of laying on of hands. Many agree without Randy Clark (or Rodney Browne), there wouldn’t be a Toronto Blessing…..  [DTW note:  John Arnott is an apostle within the New Apostolic Reformation NAR]

The “new anointing” paradigm shift makes one to act inebriated go dumb, mute, frozen and when they are able to move scream like a maniac, roar like a Lion, etc. Finally things got so out of hand even [John] Wimber had to stop his association with Toronto. Wimber stated in the Jan. 8, 1996, issue of Christianity Today: “I believe that there has been an authentic visitation of the Spirit there. However, I am unable because of my own scriptural and theological convictions to any longer give an answer for, or defend the way, this particular move is being pastored and/or explained”….

Next comes Pensacola. This “pandemonium” already practiced in Toronto is now being repeated in Pensacola by Kilpatrick and is even mentioned as a prayer for God to send “Pandemonium”. (I challenge the reader to look this up in a dictionary or Encyclopedia to see what this actually means.) ….

We need to keep in mind all this can be traced back to Hinn who at the time was blowing on people and waving his jacket and they were falling over like a building in demolition. At the time teaching that God had 9 in the Godhead and that each had its own body and soul (this is similar to Mormonism), “God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Ghost – three separate individuals, one in essence, one in work – and, may I add, each one of them possesses His own spirit-body.  ( “Praise the Lord”, 10/23/92)   He also was teaching that Jesus paid the price by being sin and in Hell and was the first born again man. “He’s [referring to Jesus] in the underworld now. …and the Bible says He was begotten. Do you know what the word begotten means? It means reborn. Do you want another shocker? Have you been begotten? So was He. Don’t let anyone deceive you. Jesus was reborn. (Benny Hinn, Our Position ‘In Christ,’ Part 1,1991) ….

The “Pensacola Revival” is the directly linked to the TB, as the fateful 1995 Father’s Day outbreak . Both Steve Hill and the leadership of the BAG [Brownsville Assemblies of God] had gone to Toronto to receive the “anointing” personally.

“Strange, unusual and wonderful things started happening after Brenda Kilpatrick came back from the Vineyard church in Toronto, Canada . . . signs of early revival started manifesting in the spring services . . . What had been seen in Toronto started happening among the people of Brownsville . . . Brenda explained how she had a drastic change in her prayer life. ‘I could never be the same again after I returned from Toronto.” (The Source of “The River” By Pastor Bill Randles)….

 width=[Steve] Hill had been to Toronto to receive the “anointing.” But  sought another anointing  in a Anglican church in England, Holy Trinity Brompton.

Hill arrived at the church during the prayer meeting,  amazed at the sight of it: “I stepped over bodies to get to the pastor. When Sandy touched me, I fell to the ground . . . I was like a kid at Toys-R-Us . . . Then, I got up and ran to a couple and said, ‘Pray for me, man, this is good!’ They touched me and WHAM! I went back down. Some of you, God is going to hit in a powerful way. If you are hungry, get prayed for a dozen times.” (From the Father’s Day video, June, 1995.)

I guess if it doesn’t work the first time be opened to eleven more. Pensacola has become famous for its palsied “chicken walk,” or shake, jerk and fall manifestations. Even the prayer teams themselves were manifesting some form of the jerks, twitches….

Evangelist Steve Hill,  a Pensacola’s Brownsville Assembly of God, interviewed on TV’s “20/20,” explains his experience I didn’t believe in God, but…out of desperation…I said, ‘Jesus, Jesus, Jesus.’ I just began to say that name, and a power came through my body....”  This same chant is seen at the services invoking Jesus. This is how he was born again, a highly unusual and non biblical way….

This is what the cults do to beckon the spirit to manifest. The repetition of  words over and over is a New Age occultic technique called a mantra. As Hindu mantras “Aum” or “Hare Krishna”-invoke a spirit. The Gnostics said iii eee oooo and other such syllables to invoke the power. width=

When a willing subject is found in a passive state and a mantra is repeated, a  demonic power overcomes the speaker. This is exactly how Hill describes his conversion! Where in the Scripture does it instruct someone to do such a thing?

[Steve] Hill does the same , repeating “More, Lord!,” and “Fire! Fire! Fire!,” to summon and pass on the spirit at the Brownsville “revival.” For instance, the Brownsville prayer team, the group that prays for people at Hill’s altar calls, is instructed to impart the spirit only by touch and the repetition of words (cliche’s). Dr. Herb Babcock, former prayer team member explains, “While on the prayer team, we were instructed to NOT pray in Jesus’ name. We were told to NOT pray for the needs of people. The only thing we were to do was touch people on their forehead and say, “More, Lord!” and keep repeating that until there was an “impartation” of the spirit being promoted in these meetings.” Babcock continues, “If the person did not respond in a reasonable time, move on to someone else. Any deviation from the limited procedure would result in being removed from the prayer team, which did happen to a few individuals.”  ( Dr. Herb Babcock, “That’s How They Do It In Toronto!,” The End-Times and Victorious Living, Vol. 11, No. 2, March/April 1997, 18.) ….  [Emphasis added]



Deon Hockey calls down fire and associates it to the Holy Spirit.  This ‘fire’ is nothing but a demonic spirit masquerading as the Holy Spirit.  Pastors will tell you that because the Holy Spirit came down during Pentecost this gives them license to associate the Holy Spirit to fire.

 width=Acts 2:2-4  “And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled the house where they were sitting. And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire and it sat on each of them. And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.”

Listen here as Deon sings about FIRE in his meetings

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Lyrics:  ‘Oh God of burning, cleansing flame, Send The Fire. Your blood-bought gift today we claim, Send The Fire. To burn up every trace of sin, to bring the light and glory in, the revolution now begins, Send The Fire today.’  –  William Booth, founder of the Salvation Army

But the bible tells us of a ‘strange fire’:

Leviticus 10:1-3    “1 Then Nadab and Abihu, the sons of Aaron, each took his censer and put fire in it, put incense on it, and offered profane [strange] fire before the LORD, which He had not commanded them. 2 So fire went out from the LORD and devoured them, and they died before the LORD. 3 And Moses said to Aaron, “This is what the LORD spoke, saying:    ‘By those who come near Me,  I must be regarded as holy;  And before all the people, I must be glorified.'”    So Aaron held his peace.

So Nadab and Abihu had not even been on the job a full day within the Levitical Priesthood and they were reinventing worship! They were not executing their office as they should have. They offered incense and fire not warranted by God.  They offered God a STRANGE FIRE.  And in return, God struck them down dead.  Today God does not strike people down for offering profane, disgusting, strange fire in the church, instead He leaves you until Judgement day.

This FIRE that is called down in the church today has been proven to be a Kundalini spirit instead, NOT the Holy Spirit.

Although the Sanskrit word “Kundalini” originated in India, this dramatically regenerative process has been recorded in nearly every culture and religion in the world. The transformational energy the yogis call “shakti” (the risen Kundalini) is alternately known in other traditions as Holy Wind, Serpent Fire, Vital Winds, Seiki (mystical Japanese), mana loa (Hawaiian Kahunan), Lung (pronounced “loong,” this is the Tibetan term which literally translates as “wind”), the greater kan and li (esoteric Chinese), huo (Taoist) and tumo or Dumo Fire (Buddhist). These metaphoric names describe the tremendous rushing, burning, spiralling and wavelike physical sensations of the aroused spiritual energy. When the Kundalini rises, these sensations may be subtle and pleasurable, or they make strike with unexpected gale force, literally thrashing the body around like an internalized hurricane. And Kundalini is renowned for setting the body ablaze with incandescent inner heat. (When I was experiencing this, I had uneasy thoughts of spontaneous human combustion.) The Buddhist tumo literally translates as “fierce woman.” …..

People who have never experienced Kundalini tend to think these descriptive metaphors imply something abstract. A man once posed the question to an Internet Kundalini list: “How does the Kundalini heat manifest itself?” The answers came back: “As HEAT. It feels HOT!” …..

Kundalini has been called the life-force — the vital, animating current within all creation. The energy of Kundalini has been used everywhere in the world for healing and accessing spiritual experience. The Greek philosopher, mathematician and physician Pythagorus knew it as pneuma, which, according to metaphysical researcher Mary Coddington, “came from a central fire in the universe and provided man not only with his vitality, but his immortal soul.” The Turkish genius and founder of neurology Galen, born in 129 A.D., also spoke of pneuma. (Mary Coddington, Seekers of the Healing Energy)

Hippocrates seemed to be aware of it as well; he referred to it as vis medicatrix naturae. To the French philosopher Henri Bergson, it was the elan vital. The brilliant physician Paracelsus, born in 1493, was convinced of “a healing energy that radiates within and around man like a luminous sphere,” says Coddington. “This force, which he called archaeus, could operate at a distance and was able both to cause and cure disease.”

In a book entitled Comte de Gabalis, published in Paris three hundred years ago, the Abbe N. de Montefaucon de Villars was quite familiar with Kundalini: “The primordial electricity or solar force, semilatent with the aura of every human being, was known to the Greeks as the Speirema, the serpent coil; and in the Upanishads, the sacred writings of India, it is said to lie coiled up like a slumbering serpent.” (Kundalini for the New Age)

The Flemish chemist Jan Baptista van Helmont perceived magnetic fluids emitting from the body; in the 1800’s, Mesmer described this phenomena as a mobile fluid which could be influenced for healing purposes. The famous psychic Edgar Cayce, Coddington notes, “described a flow of energy in the body that is shaped like the figure eight, with the lines crossing at the solar plexus.” And D.D. Palmer, who is credited with founding chiropractic medicine, identified a life energy which was also to be found in “that Intelligence which fills the universe.” He named it the “Innate.” Says Coddington, “This Innate was the power that kept the automatic system functioning, and it expressed itself through the nervous system.” …..

This life-force or energetic expression of the divine is known by many names in other cultures. The Mexican Huichols call it kupuri, the Dakota Indians speak of wakan; the Hurons of oki; the Algonquian of manitou; the African Sotho of moya; the Bantu of nzmbi; the Australians of joja; the Dajak of Indonesia of petara; the Batak of Sumatra of tondi; the Eskimos of quaumaneq, the Hebrews of ruach; the Chinese of chi or ki. …..

Searing heat is Kundalini’s classic signature. It may blast up the spine, torch localized areas of the body, or come as hot flash episodes. The heat is so fierce it sometimes feels as if one is about to burst into flames. Religious descriptions of hell fires which torment the soul may have originated as commentary on the suffering endured by initiates in the throes of Kundalini heat. …..


Please watch this video: The False Revival (comparison between what is going in today’s church and past revivals including Brownsville vs the Kundalini awakening)


See Kundalini in action in India, then compare it to the video below.


Now please watch this very disturbing video of people manifesting the Kundilini spirit in Church as the minister repeatedly calls FIRE, FIRE, FIRE.


Deon’s ministry focuses a great deal on creative miracles, and he claims that thousands of deaf people have been healed, blind eyes have received sight, lame people have walked and the cripple have been healed and various types of cancers have been healed – He even claims 2 people have been raised from the dead through prayer. DTW would love to have the proof for these 2 miraculous miracles.

Listen to this heart wrenching Youtube video below of a young man who was in a motorcycle accident and was paralyzed from the waist down – Deon Hockey prayed for him and he was ‘healed’,  however notice that the healing is only a partial healing and Deon tells this young man that as the weeks and months go by he will recover more and more until he is finally healed completely. Or so Deon says.


Notice that a Kundalini awakening as it it called when the “FIRE serpent” awakens comes with the extraordinary gift to be healed. So it is the FIRE SERPENT that is healing people, NOT Jesus. And many people in churches speak of feeling warmth or heat on their bodies while being prayed for.

Can Satan Heal?

From the article:

The answer is, absolutely, but in a very ‘counterfeit’ sort of way.  You see, Satan can cause sickness, and mankind is born into a sinful evil world.  What you see as being a miraculous healing by today’s false prophets is none other than Satan taking away the sickness / injury he had given the person in the first place.  Satan can not do any good, he is the father of LIES.

In the bible there is a story of a woman who walked bent over for 18 years.  It was a demonic spirit which caused this infirmity.  Jesus healed her and she walked upright.

Luke 13:11-13     11 And behold, there was a woman who had a spirit of infirmity eighteen years, and was bent over and could in no way raise herself up.12 But when Jesus saw her, He called her to Him and said to her, “Woman, you are loosed from your infirmity.” 13 And He laid His hands on her, and immediately she was made straight, and glorified God.

But what about creative healings you ask, an arm with crushed bones starts to slowly fix itself and heal?

Job 2:4-6      4 So Satan answered the LORD and said, “Skin for skin! Yes, all that a man has he will give for his life. 5 But stretch out Your hand now, and touch his bone and his flesh, and he will surely curse You to Your face!”  6 And the LORD said to Satan, “Behold, he is in your hand, but spare his life.”

Satan had full control over Job’s body and could do anything to him he wanted, except kill him.  We fail to comprehend the immense power Satan has and what he has control over.  Of course I am NOT saying that all illness is from Satan.  Never.  But in the case where people are healed by false teachers, Satan is the cause of the illness to start with.

So what has Satan to gain by taking away an illness from someone?  Because you can not see into the spiritual world, you do not know what else Satan has given you in EXCHANGE for you believing in him. Yes, by going to a false teacher you are believing in Satan to heal you.  One thing I do know is that the person who has received the counterfeit healing truly believes they were healed by God and ends up following after the false teacher and his doctrine of demons.  Satan now has this person’s soul in a firm grip.

Is it not a scary thought to think that Satan spends time planning how to deceive you?  If you are unsaved, without the protection of God, you are at his mercy.

1 Peter 5:8   8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.

So how do you tell what is a genuine healing from God?

The first thing you do is you TEST the words they preach.  If they do not tie up with scripture, the man is a false teacher.  Sometimes faith healers like to preach as little as possible, and rather concentrate on their core business; counterfeit healing.  Understand too that the false teacher is deceived as he truly believes he is performing mighty miracles.

Secondly, you look to see if any people are falling over backwards.  In the bible no one ever fell over.  If they did it, it was willingly to WORSHIP God, NO supernatural power involved, and they always FELL FORWARDS (Genesis 17:317, Matthew 26:39, I Corinthians 14:25).  When you see people falling backwards, know immediately that a false ‘holy spirit’ is at work.

Thirdly, regarding the healings themselves:

  • Jesus NEVER publicised His healings, nor had a healing ministry. He did not use it as an excuse to raise money either. In fact there were times he told those he healed to tell no one.  (Matthew 8:1-4, 9:27-31)
  • Jesus healed every kind of infirmity.  (Matthew 9:35)
  • Jesus did not have special days for healing specific illnessess.  Nor any specific time periods when healings would take place.
  • Jesus NEVER performed a partial healing.  People where “made whole” instantly when Jesus healed.  Jesus NEVER told the person that it would take time for them to recover.  (Matthew 15:29-31; Mark 7:31-37)
  • Jesus NEVER failed to heal anyone in His attempt to heal a person.  He never had to make any embarrassing explanations.
  • Jesus NEVER healed by faith alone, but by divine power.

Now the reason I wrote this little article, besides the fact that it answers that big question, is because I am writing an article or three on some false teachers who have strong occult powers and it appears they perform mighty miracles.   But these are not miracles, these are but mere Satanic illusions.

2 Corinthians 11:14   “14 And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light.”

In fact the signs and wonders these men are performing are so surreal even I had to put my eyes balls back in their sockets and do a double take and triple take.  It made me realise how susceptible people are who do not know the Word of God well, who do not have a good relationship with Jesus Christ, that they will actually believe these things.  Because in the end times Satan will do GREAT signs and wonders through his false prophets:

Matthew 24:24   “24 For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.” and

2 Thessalonians 2:9   “9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders”.

And when the anti-Christ is on the scene he will even call fire down from the sky.

Revelation 13:13   “13 He performs great signs, so that he even makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men.”

The number of false prophets creeping out of the woodwork is astronomical; the numbers range into the hundreds of thousands.  Many use hypnosis on their audience and the power of suggestion which is demonic never the less, but there are some who wield terrible occult power and once you land in their grasp it’s very difficult to escape.

See new article:  The Biblical Holy Spirit vs.The False Unholy Spirit of Fire —>(An exhaustive table explaining everything you need to know about the differences between The Biblical Holy Spirit compared to The Kundalini unholy spirit.)

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Deborah (Discerning the World)

Deborah Ellish is the author of the above article. Discerning the World is an internet Christian Ministry based in Johannesburg South Africa. Tom Lessing and Deborah Ellish both own Discerning the World. For more information see the About this Website page below the comments section.

50 Responses

  1. David says:

    Hi Deb
    What’s your insite to Pete Cabrera Jr…..

  2. David,

    Pete Cabrera is a false teacher who uses the occult to heal people. Nowhere in the entire Bible are we told to pray over an object like a plastic spoon in the Name of Jesus and give it to a person who needs healing.

  3. Andre says:

    hi i need more info on deon hockey and his teachings



  4. Andre,

    What we usually do is to first search the Scriptures to make sutre whatever Deon Hockey says and teaches is true or not. Where do we get what he says and teaches? Well, like you we have to surf the internet, listen to his sermons and read some of the articles written about him. Happy hunting.

  5. Hi Andre

    I thought this article was enough? lol
    He is a WOF teacher. Word of Faith is a false gospel. He teaches that the evidence of being saved is speaking in tonuges – this is false.

  6. Lizle says:

    Deon Hockey is truly a man used by God to heal and teach people. Stop looking at the man and start searching God. May He open your eyes and hearts to receive His Holy Spirit and show you the truth. Why are you so bothered what people do. If it’s wrong in God’s eyes, it is not for anyone to judge. May God forgive every person who judges and open your eyes before it is too late and you burn in hell forever.

  7. Lizle says:

    funny how comments are being moderated……are you scared of the truth?

  8. Lizle

    It is very sad when someone like yourself comes to this website and reads an article on a specific false teacher and then attacks the author for making a big mistake, ‘Deon Hockey is a REAL faith healer’ they proclaim, ‘just open your eyes’. Well lets use our brains for this time. I would like to ask you a favour, The bible tells us we need to Test the SpiritsS. (Read this article please) So we will do what God asks us to do – let’s test Deon Hockey.

    I want you to get into contact with Deon and ask him for the names and contact details of the 2 people he raised from the dead. (He must have these names, I mean raising someone from the dead is a seriously wonderful miracle that everyone should know about). He has videos of all his other supposed healings, where are the videos of these dead people coming back to life. After he gives you their names, I want you to contact them and get details from them, something that proves they were dead to start off with. Then I want you to go to this webpage Have You or a Loved One Been Raised From the Dead? and post your findings and this will admonish Deon Hockey from being a liar and a false teacher. Ok? can you do that?

  9. Lizle

    Funny how you don’t understand what ‘this comment is being moderated please be patient‘ means.

  10. TrinitySeven says:

    Remember, for everyone that may have a little occult power given to them from the devil, there are 100 more huxsters only claiming to have power and using sleight of hand techniques, for you to expose only the genuine hardcore elements, and not the softer elements (it’s all the same pile of garbage mind you) speaks of doing only a partial job, and also gives some of these people a front to hide behind…take the whole pile of nonsense and greedmongering down, not just the one half. Their were reasons why the so-called “amazing randy” took many of his former co-worker types down, it was because he knew all their training techniques, acting, statistics, religion, observation, psychology, and others are used in deceptive manner. So even though he was an atheist, and dead wrong on many matters still, his show was about proving all the charlatans and occultists (well the ones that randy didnt like) down, and just like fakes like oprah winfrey/mj and all those vile ones, he appeared to do a thorough job (when of coarse the truth is THEY WERE/ARE all on the side of evil sadly). Which incidentally is what we are talking about in this post (yet in the opposite way as we are in service to good/God). I just want to help you out as a friend believer to do a better job on these nutty greedmongers, so thank you for your time, and all consideration. Blessings in Jesus. If you need proof about any of this, it’s all available on youtube, video/audio evidence on everything pretty much, AND IF YOU LIKE IT, you better DOWNLOAD it, as the Inet is not going to be free for much longer, you need to understand that.

  11. TrinitySeven wrote

    Remember, for everyone that may have a little occult power given to them from the devil, there are 100 more huxsters only claiming to have power and using sleight of hand techniques, for you to expose only the genuine hardcore elements, and not the softer elements (it’s all the same pile of garbage mind you) speaks of doing only a partial job, and also gives some of these people a front to hide behind . . . take the whole pile of nonsense and greedmongering down, not just the one half. .

    You are very optimistic to think you are able to expose all of the garbage all the time. Not even Paul was able to do that. Another grave mistake you’re making is to think that we are here to take them down. That’s impossible because Jesus Himself said that they will wax worse in the end time. (2 Tim 3:12-13). There is only one Person who can take them down in one go. Have you guessed who that is? Read Matthew 7:21-23).

  12. Ida says:

    Dear discerning people, thank you for this article. I went to Deon’s meeting at my very own church in South Africa. For the first time ever I had a preacher push me on my head,but I did not fall over and he moved on to the net person. I don’t like anybody pushing me. I did not like the things he preached and it disturbed me. (telling us to fight the devil and that he himself was not afraid of the devil) when the Bible only teach us to resist,and he will flee. After Deon Hockey came the falsest prophet of all: and ex police man called Marius Higgins. Ohh man could he foretell the future of all those willing to listen. And with prophet Marius came the unholy laughter into our local church for the first time, (I haven’t heard it since). When I asked my pastor about this, he said I must be careful when questioning the man of god and to not grieve the holy spirit.. I am just rolling my eyes and lifting my eyebrows… shaking my head sideways… :ohno: stunned. Crying for my church and my people. We would like to hear your opinion on Higgins. (he came to our church driving the biggest black 4 x 4 Mercedes Bens I have ever seen.

  13. Hi Ida

    You said “For the first time ever I had a preacher push me on my head,but I did not fall over and he moved on to the net person.”

    I don’t know if you have, you probably have, but in case you haven’t please just ask Jesus Christ forgiveness for going upfront to receive the unholy spirit he had to offer and ask Him to remove anything that’s attached itself to you. Just because you didn’t fall over does not mean nothing was transferred to you. The fact that you were there upfront willing to receive ‘something’ opens you up to problems.

    As for Marius Higgins, his name rings a bell, I am sure someone has asked of him before on this site. I’ll check.

  14. Ida says:

    I will ask Jesus Christ to remove the unholy ‘somethings’ from all of us at church.., and to add some discernment upon our very own pastor not to use our money to pay these rich and famous ‘prophets’. Can you believe we even pay them to bring that ‘stuff’ Cry/

  15. Hi Ida

    You said “I will ask Jesus Christ to remove the unholy ‘somethings’ from all of us at church..”

    Actually you can only ask forgiveness for yourself. :nod: You warn and tell others of the demonic happenings and that they themselves need to repent, they then need to come to Jesus Christ themselves. This thought process is exactly what the Apostolic and Prophetic bunch preach – territorial spiritual warfare. Rebecca Brown teaches something similar, that you need to pray for the other person that the demonic entities are bound and then they are free to hear the gospel. If it was so I am sure the disciples in the bible and Jesus Christ Himself would have run ahead to the town – removed all demons from people and then preached the gospel to them unhindered. But it was not so, Jesus told the disciples that if people in the town/home didn’t want to hear the gospel they were to sweep the dust from their feet and move on to the next house/town/church – Matthew 10:14

  16. Dear Ida

    Can I ask, why are you going to this church?

  17. Ida says:

    Strangely enough I was searching for the one true God the creator of heaven and earth, and then along my pilgrimage I saw all of what John Bunyan (1622 Purition) saw on his Pilgrims Progress, and even more… some are unspeakable.. and I also was fooled sometimes. But there comes a time that you have to leave behind the city of destruction and your loved ones and start moving towards the celestial city (if that’s where you want to go). It’s difficult, the narrow road. Thanks for interpreting the truth. I learned a lot here.

  18. Koko says:

    Hi everyone, this kundalini thing is so true. An excerpt from the above article “A man once posed the question to an internet kundalini list: “How does the heat manifest itself?” The answers came back: As HEAT. It feels HOT!” I remember years back, the pastor of a Pentecostal church that I used to attend, invited this man who was into the “prophetic” to preach and to “minister” and “give a word” to whoever, as the Lord leads. I remember that on one occasion, he called out the head of the choir and “spoke into her life” giving her some “prophetic words”. He then told her to lift up her hands, placed his hand on her head and told her to “receive it”. Later after church, I asked what she felt when he laid hands on her. She said she felt “heat” in her hands. At the time, I felt a bit jealous thinking why I never got called out at such meetings too to be “laid hands upon” and when will God have a “word” for me too. All I can say is, I cannot thank God enough for His mercies. In hindsight, I couldn’t believe I fell for all this nonsense (I have fallen for quite a few deceptions out there) and recently had to repent and call on the name of Jesus again. This is because I responded to an alter call at 12. And I can’t for the life of me, remember what was preached, or what I responded to and why. But given the number of deceptions that I have fallen for, I could not help conclude that it was probably a false conversion. Hence why as an adult, and fully aware of what I was doing and why, called on the name of Jesus asking Him to forgive me and to please save me because I am a sinner. Now I have started rechecking all the doctrines I got taught and subsequently I imbed during the years past. And sadly, many are not biblical. “Laughing in the spirit”, “Slain in the spirit”, “Health and Weather gospel”, “Dominionism” (I’m ashamed to say I fell for these teachings) and many others are simply not biblical. No scriptural reference for them like AT ALL. Anyway, keep doing what you are doing and exposing these lies. Those that will hear will hear. Those that won’t, won’t unfortunately.

  19. Dear Koko

    We can just PRAISE Jesus Christ that you heard the Holy Spirit’s conviction and you listened and repented. The same with me Koko, I too over many many years have fallen for many false doctrines and even false teachers…point in case – John MacArthur and many many years before that, before I knew about the Apostolic Reformation I saw a faith healer (not gonna mention his name) do some seriously serious miraculous miracles on Youtube that literally made me fall over. :horrified: I had to research the Bible solidly and analyse what I was seeing on video over and over before I realised that Satan can truly heal a person but the healing in never 100% complete. Afterwards the person’s soul is trapped because they start to follow the ‘healer and his false teachings’ – I think it’s very difficult for someone who has been satanically healed to come to the realization that it was not Jesus Christ who ‘healed’ them…

  20. Tony Conrad says:

    Very difficult when one doesn’t know if one has been healed by God or Satan. Talk about confusion.

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