At Boshoff from CRC Church shows us how Pharisees went about ‘Honoring’ God

At BoshoffThe recent invitation to debate sent to Mr. At Boshoff by Dion Knoesen was as a result of the below notice sent out by CRC, to their members and undersigned by Mr. Boshoff.

This notice was dated 16 November 2010 with the Subject: “Honour God”

We wish to state the reason for the intended debate with Mr. Boshoff.  We hope to either persuade Mr. Boshoff to give heed to proper rendering of the Scriptures for his own benefit and also to benefit those who are under his shepherding.

1Ti 4:16    Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee.

On the CRC website it s mentioned that Mr. Boshoff studied at “A Bible College” for three years fulltime. Unfortunately no name is given to this Bible College.

In the last paragraph on this webpage the it says the following:

“He has been described as focussed, passionate and fervent in his hunger for the Word of God and explosive in his dynamic teaching of it. His positively dynamic and practical messages are equaled in their refreshing relevancy to their bold authenticity and doctrinal accuracy. “

When looking exegetically into his notice “Honour God” we have to question his “authenticity and doctrinal accuracy.”

For informative purposes the quoted Scriptures by Mr. Boshoff is discussed below in RED

As Paul wrote:

Php 1:9 And this I pray, that your love may abound yet more and more in knowledge and in all judgment;

Php 1:10 That ye may approve things that are excellent; that ye may be sincere and without offence till the day of Christ;


Email sent out from CRC Church to it’s congregation:

 width=From: CRC Christian Church
Sent: 16 November 2010 01:00 PM

Honour God

“Money is the answer to all things.” Ecc 10:19

The two most important books in your life are the Bible and your cheque “book”. The Bible is the revelation of God’s love for us and our cheque book is the revelation of our love for God.

In Joshua 7 we read about the only place where Israel failed when they crossed into the Promised Land. The only place where Israel suffered defeat because they tampered with the gold and silver (the devoted things) that belonged to God.

Your tithe is Holy to God. Lev 27:30. There are two principles that dominate throughout the Old and New Testament: First fruits get given first and; seed time and harvest. It is God’s purpose that should drive us to give.

In Acts 5 we read about Ananias and Sapphira that financially stood in the way of God’s purpose and suffered great calamity. God does not curse you; your actions open your life to either failure or success.

Does Jesus endorse tithing? Of course He does. In both Matt 23:23 and Luke 11:42; Jesus says that tithing should be the most basic thing. When you tithe you shouldn’t even see that 10 percent. It’s God’s. Also we read in Heb 7 that tithing was before the law. It was a part of the Abrahamic covenant that still exists and is fulfilled in Jesus. He tithed to Malchizedek (high priest) 430 years before before Moses came with the law.

Your allegiance, your tithe, should be given to the church where you are planted. Mal 3 speaks about the coming of Jesus and actually the Holy Spirit. In this we see that we should bring the tithe to the “storehouse” which is your church. Give to God what is God’s. It is God who should be honoured first because He is the source of all your income. Matt 22:17-21

We work to build the kingdom of God, we shouldn’t work to meet our own needs. People can frustrate the work of God by withholding resources. Let’s evaluate ourselves and rectify places where maybe we’ve neglected to honour God with our finances. If you start today it is never too late.

This past week-end we saw 470 people giving their lives to Jesus. We are here to possess the Promised Land. Thank you to every one of you for working hard throughout the year and inviting your world to CRC.

We had a fantastic harvest event in Cape Town last week. We saw the entire auditorium filled to the max. Ps. Aidan and Sharon are doing a great work in that city. I believe many good things are still heading our way in Cape Town.

They have begun to lay the foundations for the Pretoria Building Project. We are so excited to see how things come together as we follow the instructions of God. As we are now in the time when we have to pay the contractors large sums of money every month, I urge you to give the money you pledged or whatever extra the Holy Spirit lays on your heart.

If you still want to contribute please e-mail finance[at]crc.org.za

The Kids’ Party is only a week away. Please take part in this as we are going to make the day special for over 15 000 underprivileged children. If you would like to volunteer or make a donation please contact 051-xxx xxxx.

Be Blessed,

At Boshoff


A Critique on how to “Honor God” written by At Boshoff – Critique notes in red

“Money is the answer to all things.” Ecc 10:19 (Undersigned by At Boshoff)

[Note:   It is utterly disappointing to notice that Eccl. 10:19 is cited and interpreted in the way At Boshoff has done so in his notice to the congregation at CRC.

When reading what King Solomon wrote in the book of Ecclesiastes the basic understanding and proper rendering of the Scripture quoted is in fact quite the opposite, as indicated here by Mr. Boshoff.

The passage in context from the first verse (In fact the first chapter of Ecclesiastes) has to do with what the foolish do and the evils resulting from their actions in this world, which also includes verse 10.

Solomon’s message is one of vanity to all that are under the sun, which includes “Money is the answer to all things” What Solomon actually means in writing this is that man’s trust in money which according to man answers all things, is vanity. Their trust and security should be in God and not in money.

It is vanity of fools who rely on their money for all things instead of God.

Psa 62:8  Trust in him at all times; ye people, pour out your heart before him: God is a refuge for us. Selah.

Psa 62:9 Surely men of low degree are vanity, and men of high degree are a lie: to be laid in the balance, they are altogether lighter than vanity.

Psa 62:10  Trust not in oppression, and become not vain in robbery: if riches increase, set not your heart upon them.

Psa 62:11  God hath spoken once; twice have I heard this; that power belongeth unto God.

Mar 10:24  And the disciples were astonished at his words. But Jesus answereth again, and saith unto them, Children, how hard is it for them that trust in riches to enter into the kingdom of God!

1Ti 6:17  Charge them that are rich in this world, that they be not highminded, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy;

1Ti 6:18 That they do good, that they be rich in good works, ready to distribute, willing to communicate;

1Ti 6:19  Laying up in store for themselves a good foundation against the time to come, that they may lay hold on eternal life

Why do so many pastors not put their faith in God but rather exploit the people, after all they are always accusing those who do not have money as being without faith – yet when they need the money they rely on the people instead of their faith??

The Bible does not teach that money should not be used to preach the Gospel and to support brethren (not organisations) in the body of Christ – it is very obvious that mammon should be befriended for this purpose.

But to contort Scripture in this manner shows doctrinal ignorance – hopefully – that rather done so on purpose.]

The two most important books in your life are the Bible and your cheque “book”. The Bible is the revelation of God’s love for us and our cheque book is the revelation of our love for God. (Undersigned by At Boshoff)

[Note:  Where is this revelation in the Bible, that our cheque book is the revelation of our love for God??

The revelation I find is that our love for the Lord Jesus, is to keep His commandments not the love of filthy lucre. Our love is manifested in our obedience to Him, our trust in Him alone not in mammon and riches.

There are only two important books and that is the Bible and having your name written in the Book of Life.]

In Joshua 7 we read about the only place where Israel failed when they crossed into the Promised Land. The only place where Israel suffered defeat because they tampered with the gold and silver (the devoted things) that belonged to God. (Undersigned by At Boshoff)

[Note:  Ouch!!! First of all it was not Israel who “tampered with the gold and silver” but one man named Achan the son of Camri who had stolen some of the spoils of looted booty of Jericho. (This also had nothing to do with his own money, silver or gold or any of his personal belongings which is referred to here Mr. Boshoff in quoting Joshua 7 for gaining money from New Testament congregants.)

Yes, Israel as a corporate entity was punished as result of the theft by Achan, but it had absolutely nothing to do with the personal wealth individuals were given by God, which were then somehow to the interpretation of this part of Scripture withheld from God.

Firstly this was in disobedience to God, because God placed a ban on personal gain from the looted goods.

Secondly theft was the cause of the punishment – taking things not given to you by God.

Thirdly it was the covetousness of Achan that was addressed in the punishment. Covetousness is what God warns us against throughout the Scriptures.

A reminder: The Bible does not teach that money should not be used to preach the Gospel and to support brethren (not organisations) in the body of Christ – it is very obvious that mammon should be befriended for this purpose.

But to contort Scripture in this manner shows doctrinal ignorance – hopefully – that rather done so on purpose.

To be under the shepherding of someone who does not understand context and doctrine or does understand context and twists it out of context, is not promoted by Scripture:

1Ti 4:16  Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee.]

Your tithe is Holy to God. Lev 27:30. There are two principles that dominate throughout the Old and New Testament: First fruits get given first and; seed time and harvest. It is God’s purpose that should drive us to give. (Undersigned by At Boshoff)

[Note:  Some more doctrines lacking regarding the tithe very applicable to the Old Testament. Using this one verse for the purpose of tithing is not sufficient and there were many tithing’s applicable not just one. To understand this tithe there were basically 4 types of tithing in the Old Testament ONLY

a) The tithe to the Levites. Deut.14: 27.

The Levites were the “government” of Israel and due to them not having a share in the land allocated to the rest of the tribes, those allocated land were to use of their produce to give to the Levites.

b) The tithe of the Levites to the Zadokites. Neh.10: 38.

Now this is where Malachi is used to place unnecessary burdens on believers today.

First of all, tithings were purely laws given in the Torah or Old Testament. So commanding and condemning people to tithe today by quoting Malachi 10, is basically going back to the Torah or the Law, putting congregants back under the law.

Secondly the Scriptures used below to state that Jesus endorses tithing are totally out of context with regard to tithing and God’s Word in fact it refers to this as works by the Pharisees to justify themselves, something God loathes. In Fact God says woe to them that tithe! – will explain when we discuss these passages.

Thirdly when Malachi 3:10 is read and understood in context it refers to the tithe in a) above, the tithe in Deut 14:27 which was received from the tribes and given to the Levites. The Levites in turn were to skim off a tithe from this tithe (Neh10:38) to give to the priests attending to temple duties. So it was the Levites who were robbing God not the people.

It is interesting when reading the “Works Of Josephus” the Sadducees were the rich of the day who were using the tithes to enrich themselves. Josephus admits to this as he himself was a Sadducee.

Historically it is proven that the Sadducees were extremely rich due to the financial contributions by ordinary people who were forced to pay tribute.

There is no new thing under the son. Today’s Sadducees and Pharisees apply the same rule. The flock enriches them as result of their own rendering and contortions of Scripture.

The clergy were robbing God of tithes not the people, hence the rebuke to them in Malachi 10.

Have any of the Malachi 10 promoters ever read the following to any of their congregations?

Mic 3:10 They build up Zion with blood, and Jerusalem with iniquity.

Mic 3:11  The heads thereof judge for reward, and the priests thereof teach for hire, and the prophets thereof divine for money: yet will they lean upon the LORD, and say, Is not the LORD among us? none evil can come upon us.

Mic 3:12  Therefore shall Zion for your sake be plowed as a field, and Jerusalem shall become heaps, and the mountain of the house as the high places of the forest.

The third type of tithe:

c) The tithe toward the annual Holy Days. Deut. 14: 22 – 26.

3 Times a year the Israelites were to attend Holy Feasts at Jerusalem and for this they needed to set aside a tithe of their harvests etc. If they were too far from Jerusalem they could sell the targeted tithed articles and turn it into money. This they would spend upon themselves and the Levites once they arrive in Jerusalem.

d) The tithe to the less fortunate. Deut.14: 28 – 29.

This is also a tithe to obviously assist the needy in the Old Testament.

Although a tithe in the New Testament is never mentioned in this regard there are many Scriptures which clearly say that the needy ought to be cared for.

When one searches for the word “Tithe” in the New Testament there are  two references one in Matt. 23:23 and the other in Luke 11:42 which notably is quoted by Mr. Boshoff and will be discussed.]

In Acts 5 we read about Ananias and Sapphira that financially stood in the way of God’s purpose and suffered great calamity. God does not curse you; your actions open your life to either failure or success. (Undersigned by At Boshoff)

[Note:  Who is man that he is able to stand in the way of God’s purpose? Is God dependant on man?

Psa 8:3 When I consider thy heavens, the work of thy fingers, the moon and the stars, which thou hast ordained;

Psa 8:4 What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him?

It is agreeable that one’s actions open you to success or failure, but to use Acts 5 as yardstick for failure and success is totally out of context.

I know of many people struggling financially who humbly adores God and has extreme credence in the Lord Jesus, but who realize that their own actions caused their calamity. Those being poor and suffering financially in this life without rejecting the Lord Jesus who are willing to endure to the end will be first in the Kingdom.

Although there are certain quotations by the MHCC I do not fully agree with the MHCC renders the following understanding with regard to Ananias and Sapphira which I could not have worded better:

The sin of Ananias and Sapphira was, that they were ambitious of being thought eminent disciples, when they were not true disciples. Hypocrites may deny themselves, may forego their worldly advantage in one instance, with a prospect of finding their account in something else. They were covetous of the wealth of the world, and distrustful of God and his providence. They thought they might serve both God and mammon. They thought to deceive the apostles. The Spirit of God in Peter discerned the principle of unbelief reigning in the heart of Ananias. But whatever Satan might suggest, he could not have filled the heart of Ananias with this wickedness had he not been consenting. The falsehood was an attempt to deceive the Spirit of truth, who so manifestly spoke and acted by the apostles. The crime of Ananias was not his retaining part of the price of the land; he might have kept it all, had he pleased; but his endeavouring to impose upon the apostles with an awful lie, from a desire to make a vain show, joined with covetousness. But if we think to put a cheat upon God, we shall put a fatal cheat upon our own souls. How sad to see those relations who should quicken one another to that which is good, hardening one another in that which is evil! And this punishment was in reality mercy to vast numbers. It would cause strict self-examination, prayer, and dread of hypocrisy, covetousness, and vain-glory, and it should still do so. It would prevent the increase of false professors. Let us learn hence how hateful falsehood is to the God of truth, and not only shun a direct lie, but all advantages from the use of doubtful expressions, and double meaning in our speech.]

Does Jesus endorse tithing? Of course He does. In both Matt 23:23 and Luke 11:42; Jesus says that tithing should be the most basic thing. When you tithe you shouldn’t even see that 10 percent. It’s God’s. Also we read in Heb 7 that tithing was before the law. It was a part of the Abrahamic covenant that still exists and is fulfilled in Jesus. He tithed to Malchizedek (high priest) 430 years before before Moses came with the law. (Undersigned by At Boshoff)

[Note:  Is Mr. Boshoff rightfully dividing the Word here?

To understand Matthew 23:23 effectively one needs to read from verse 1!

These were the Words of the Lord Jesus Himself. The Lord Jesus was warning against the Pharisees and rebuked them for putting credence or weight to their tithes. The Lord Jesus says in Matthew 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

The Lord Jesus most certainly does not say that tithing is the most basic thing in this Scripture. In fact He says woe to those that tithe and ignore the important things that God wants. The Lord Jesus in fact says that it is NOT the most basic thing. He says the “weightier” matters are more basic than the tithe.

Luke 11:42 Again out of context and basically the same rebuke goes out to the Pharisees who promoted and relied on tithing as the basic thing at the time of the Temple in Jerusalem.

I do not find: “Jesus says that tithing should be the most basic thing” What I do find is another rebuke to the Pharisees and Scribes who felt very secure in basic tithing: Luk 11:42 But woe unto you, Pharisees! For ye tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass over judgment and the love of God: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

What I have found in CRC when I used to go there was that they were promoting security in tithing, but the more important and weightier matters such as keeping the Lords commandments in our love for Him, I personally never heard in any sermon by Mr. Boshoff.

Is this not precisely why the Lord Jesus in His Word rebukes the Pharisees?

In Matthew 23:23 and Luke 11:42 the focus is more on the “weightier” matters than the tithe.

A very repetitive part of Scripture used by Mr. Boshoff is Hebrews 7

Gen: 14:18: And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the highest God.

Gen: 14:19: And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth:

Gen: 14:20: And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand.  And he gave him tithes of all.

This is to “prove” that tithing was established before the time of Moses, the Torah or law and that tithes have to be given to the priest. To find out what the Melchizedek tithe meant one has to not only read this passage, but also read on to verses 22 & 23.

From verse 18 – 20 it is clear that this was not Abraham’s belongings which were tithed, but rather the booty or loot he had gathered from conquering the enemy.

Gen:14:22: And Abram said to the king of Sodom, I have lift up mine hand unto the LORD, the most high God, the possessor of heaven and earth,

Gen: 14:23: That I will not take from a thread even to a shoe latchet, and that I will not take any thing that is thine, lest thou shouldest say, I have made Abram rich:

Although he gave away 10% of the booty, he stated that he did not even want any of it, because it was not his.

It is also interesting to note that this was a ONCE OFF event, which never took place again.

Ninety percent and more of Scripture quoted for the purposes of pleading for tithes are taken out of context today. God says let few be teachers, because those teachers teaching the flock will be held accountable for what they teach.

A reminder: The Bible does not teach that money should not be used to preach the Gospel and to support brethren (not organisations) in the body of Christ – it is very obvious that mammon should be befriended for this purpose.

But to contort Scripture in this manner shows doctrinal ignorance – hopefully – that rather done so on purpose.

James:3:1: My brethren, be not many masters, knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation.]

Your allegiance, your tithe, should be given to the church where you are planted. Mal 3 speaks about the coming of Jesus and actually the Holy Spirit. In this we see that we should bring the tithe to the “storehouse” which is your church. Give to God what is God’s. It is God who should be honoured first because He is the source of all your income. Matt 22:17-21 (Undersigned by At Boshoff)

[Note:  Reading Mal 10 from verse 1 rather suggests that the audience addressed by God were the priests as already discussed. The “storehouse” is definitely not the New Testament church. The New Testament church is the bride of Christ and not a building built with brick and mortar.]

We work to build the kingdom of God, we shouldn’t work to meet our own needs. People can frustrate the work of God by withholding resources. Let’s evaluate ourselves and rectify places where maybe we’ve neglected to honour God with our finances. If you start today it is never too late.

[Note:  The Lord Jesus calls for heed to doctrine rather than finances and I do hope that Mr. Boshoff would rather be obedient to the Lord in the weightier matters.]

This past week-end we saw 470 people giving their lives to Jesus. We are here to possess the Promised Land. Thank you to every one of you for working hard throughout the year and inviting your world to CRC.

[Note:  Figures do not impress God. One such an example is: Exo 23:2 Thou shalt not follow a multitude to do evil; neither shalt thou speak in a cause to decline after many to wrest judgment:

Mat 22:14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

The quote Mr. Boshoff uses in Matthew 23 was discussed already and to conclude, using this verse as a basis for endorsing tithing is basically in support of what the Pharisees promoted – That Mr. Boshoff is teaching here and to the congregation is absolutely the same what the Pharisees were doing.

What is important however and of grave concern, are the proselytes made by CRC. This is also found in Matthew 23 the chapter in which the verse occurs that Mr. Boshoff uses to preach the diametric opposite to what the Lord Jesus says in this chapter: Mat 23:15  Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

Mat 23:16  Woe unto you, ye blind guides, which say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gold of the temple, he is a debtor!

Mat 23:17 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold?]

We had a fantastic harvest event in Cape Town last week. We saw the entire auditorium filled to the max. Ps. Aidan and Sharon are doing a great work in that city. I believe many good things are still heading our way in Cape Town.

[Note:  I suppose it is not worth mentioning all those pastors and lay persons who have left CRC and would like to see Mr. Boshoff repent of his ways.]

They have begun to lay the foundations for the Pretoria Building Project. We are so excited to see how things come together as we follow the instructions of God. As we are now in the time when we have to pay the contractors large sums of money every month, I urge you to give the money you pledged or whatever extra the Holy Spirit lays on your heart.

If you still want to contribute please e-mail finance@crc.org.za

The Kids’ Party is only a week away. Please take part in this as we are going
to make the day special for over 15 000 underprivileged children. If you would like to volunteer or make a donation please contact 051-525 2883.

[Note:  It is agreeable that feeding under privileged Children is a very good work, yet the concern remains what these poor children are being fed spiritually when such doctrine as discussed here is being preached.

Hitler once said that if the hearts of the children are won, the next generation will be won.

It is also fact the “Church” of Rome has built a multitude of schools and hospitals and proclaims ex-Cathedra that winning the minds of children before age 7 will ensure that they will be won permanently for the Mother “Church”.  I see the same happening at CRC so feeding children is an outward appearance coaxing them into a greater deception of being taught wrong doctrine

Remember what James wrote; if the correct faith is dead the works mean nothing.

It is the correct doctrine that will ensure the correct faith – this is why the works may be more detrimental to the children in the longer term.]

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  1. Chris says:

    Hi there,

    Was under the rule of At himself, the headquarters for this wicked sect, in Bloemfontein South Africa. Thankfully God showed me the Truth, His Truth, through human instruments. This for me is very well and good, but what of the billions being misled, in the name of our Messiah? It is for them that I feel sorrow, even though it is their responsibility to seek the Truth of the Word it sickens me that men such as the likes above mentioned roam free like a lion to deceive like a serpent whilst wearing sheep’s wool… Maybe he teaches this at his mighty men conferences? To be like a lion? yes he does.

    However it is not only him or his sect that deceives, the charismatics, catholics, Calvinists and all the other sects share the same principles. I will paste an article I wrote to shed light on this, they are all side of the same coin …

    The article as follows :

    This article is built on fact and fact alone, not my own opinions on a situation. If at any time you need confirmation on any of the information I have given below, all you need to do is request it and I will be happy to give you meaty and lengthy evidence.

    Definitions of terms:

    Dominionism – The teaching of the doctrine that states that Israel has now replaced the church, because natural Israel has been cut off from God. This is also know as Replacement Theology. The result of this teaching means that all promises made to Abraham are now promised to the Church. Another outcome is that for Jesus to return, all the lives on earth need to be saved ( A great Revival ). This sect believes that a special group of people will take over the world, because we are the living in the millennium spoken about in revelation, that Jesus is ruling the planet as we speak. This dominion is obtained by finding high rankings in the media, economy, political agenda and so forth. (5 fold ministry)

    Amillennialism – In Latin when the ‘a’ is applied before the word it means “no”, so this then means no millennium. Again, this sect believes that the millennium is not literal and that Jesus is ruling the earth right now from Heaven as He sits next to God’s right hand. All that is necessary for Jesus to return is that a great revival occurs that everyone may live of the principles of the Bible.Catholics as well as the reformed as well as the dominionist each share appraisals in these theologies.

    Calvinist – Believe in the predestined choice God made of who He would send to Heaven, good boy list bad boy list, believe in the elect (selected of God), hearers and the sinners. They use the acronym TULIP as a reference for what they believe see : (http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/10/13/unconditional-election-and-total-depravity-are-gnostic-teachings/ )

    The denominations of the large religious groups of the world at state :

    The Charismatic movement(namely the happy chappies) – The foundation of this group is set on emotional splendor, good music, good visuals and basically the “love of God” in everyones lives, about what God can do for you in your life. It is safe to say that the majority of these churches thrive on sensationalism (sign and wonders), with apparent pastors performing “miracles”, calling on the Holy Spirit and transferring in to his/her congregation which goes against scripture. (Ex. 30:32-33) This can also be called what they cal transferal of the anointing. Bible warns against signs and wonders (2Th 2:9) ( The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders.)

    There is no doubt that these groups teach a doctrine of prosperity and what God can do for you emotionally and especially financially, with teachers like Creflo dollar, At boshoff, Rod Parsley and many more that teach you should receive prosperity from God financially or else you do not have Faith and do not walk and talk like a true Christian. This is only obtained and God only really has favor on your life if you give them the money in faith, this is complete and utter hogwash. In fact the Bible speaks about how possessions do not make a man.(1 Timoty 6:10) (Luke 12:14-16) (Luke 14:33)

    Similarity :

    To get back to the topic at hand, these smooth talkers also believe that there is going to be a great revival and that we need to get ready for this, as the world will be saved. “Pastors” speak it over the congregation, world, country and often say how they for see a great revival for God. This is contradictory to what the Bible teaches, that in the end times there will be a great falling away. Now as important as it is to win souls, these heads are speaking directly against the Word of God.( 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;)(2 Thess. 2:3)

    To obtain this revival they use key Dominionistic principles, that there has to be a great revival for Jesus to return – there is going to be a great revival. Secondly that the promises to Abraham concerning protection and prosperity is to the Church not Israel, which is why they teach that God blesses u if you bless the church. Another similarity is the fact that these Charismatic movements use the media, economic, socio-economic and political grounds to obtain this revival. In example :

    Media – TBN is only 1 of several 24 hour broadcasting centers for this false doctrine. There are massive satellite organizations(churchs) all around the world that broadcast their contorted message etc…

    Economic – These very large charismatic movers rake in millions if not billions of Rands/Dollars each month with their telethons and monthly tithing gigs. Another great fund raiser is there products of holiness (dvd’s, holy clothes etc..) as well as the massive conferences they have, this should be free of charge as the bible instructs.(Matt. 10:7-10)(Luke 10:4-7) Their luxurious home, cars and lifestyle in general is proof that they do not give a large portion of this to the poor as they should. (Deut. 14: 22-26).

    Socio-Economic – With their message of apparent good news and even better living they head into the poor areas and attempt to help these people with food and the good message, how ever this is short lived as that food is only temporary just as the false Gospel they are teaching. This is merely a campaign to win the vote of these people nothing more nothing less. If they genuinely cared about these people they would sell their large houses and go into mission stations etc….(Luke 14:33)

    Political – “Pastors” with the likes of Rhema have let politicians such as Jacob Zuma speak to his congregation and has shown a general fellowship with the man. This is going back to feudalism where the state and church were once one. Speakers such Albert Mohler have sign the Manhattan Treaty, which is tired into the UN, which states all the principles of “unity through diversity” (one world order).

    Important to note even though they won’t admit to it, it is clear that the Charismatic movement do not care enough for the instructions of the scripture that they have contorted it and even have members and heads of the congregation, that commit adultery and several other sins. HEAD OF THE CHARISMATIC MOVEMENT, contorting the scripture. They often put themselves on the same level as Jesus, ordering Him and His Holy Spirit around like waiters.

    Calvinism(Reformed church) – Believe that everyone has already been preordained to either go to heaven(elect) or to Hell(Sinners) and that all that is need for Jesus to return is that all the principles of the Bible are followed by everyone on the planet, whether it is the right doctrine or not. (see the link above). against scripture (Rom 8:7-8) That Christ only died for a certain group.against scripture (John 3:16; 2 Cor. 5:19)

    They incorporate Amillennialism which again means that we are living in the millennium that Jesus is ruling from heaven, this means that all that all is needed is for people to follow principles of the Bible, even though these principles might be contorted and there is no urgency for these people to believe in Jesus for their gain into heaven.(as if these elect have been regenerated, they automatically go to heaven). This is why John Calvin enforced a very strict moral code onto his city, even though most of these decision where made by a council, that decide which is acceptable and which is not. He would burn people alive and execute them in several ways.against scripture (Matt. 15:9)

    This is why the Deutsch reformed and other reformed churches have councils who decide what goes and what does not. They have accepted homosexuality and along with it a mound of other sinful things according to the Bible. . This can be seen in methodist, Charismatic, Catholic and other sects of “Christianity”, whereby they contort the Word to suit their own vendettas. against scripture (Matt. 15:9). They follow what man says and not what God says.

    Dominionistic :

    Media: There has been a decrease of the number of youth that flock to Calvinism or the reformed movement, this is why it was necessary to repackage and repack it, to seem more vibrant. The new movement is called Neo-Reformed or New Calvinist. Mark Driscoll created T-shirts of Jesus as a DJ and several other blaspheming T-shirts. People with the likes of Louis Giglio, John Piper, Albert Mohler and many more now catch a gullible youth with smooth talking and visuals.

    Political: John Calvin was a student of Augustine, Augustine used an emerged state and church system (which is ideal if the doctrine is sound), emerged pagan holidays with Christian ones such as Christmas and easter. This is where Calvinism has its roots or motive for political agenda. It is just a matter of time.The Vatican is also stating to plant its roots in politics once again, just as before. Catholics.

    important note : Contort Scripture and create their own laws just as Charismatic, seek one large revival which goes against the Word of God and believe that all promises whether it is financial or protective is unto them, even though we as Christians do get favour, it is not the same promises promised to Israel.

    Catholic: The Catholic subject could literally be it’s own topic, however just for the purposes of these comparisons I will just scratch the surface of their doctrine.

    Dominionistic :

    Political: The Vatican for years already is quite a powerful force when it comes to politics, whether it comes to the Pope meeting with huge politicians, other religious groups or being part of the G-8. It is irrefutable that the Vatican have immense power when it comes to politics.

    Mikhail Garbachev (member of the soviet union) – ” Pope John paull || played a major political role in the collapse of communism in Eastern Europe… The event in Eastern Europe would not have been possible without the presence of the pope… which he knew how to play on the world scene”

    Alexander Haig(member of the CIA) – “The Vatican’s information was absolutly better and quicker than our in every respect”

    There are many many more.

    Economy: “The unique, noncommercial economy of Vatican City is supported financially by contributions (known as Peter’s Pence) from Roman Catholics throughout the world, the sale of postage stamps and tourist mementos, fees for admission to museums, and the sale of publications.

    The incomes of lay workers are sensibly better than those of their counterparts who work in the city of Rome. Living standards may be different, at least in their public evidence, due to particular sober lifestyle required.

    The Vatican also conducts worldwide financial activities, the Istituto per le Opere di Religione (also known with the acronym IOR and wrongly known as the Vatican Bank). This Institute has an ATM with instructions in Latin, possibly the only such ATM in the world.

    A souvenir shop on the roof of St. Peter’s Basilica

    The Vatican has often been accused by critics of being excessively wealthy, as in Avro Manhattan’s The Vatican Billions. However, the papal state has previously run budget deficits and obtains much of its money from international donations such as Peter’s Pence.

    In response to demands by activists that the Vatican should sell its artistic artifacts and give them to the poor, Cardinal Paul Josef Cordes asserted that the Church has the duty to conserve the works of art in the name of the Italian state and cannot sell them.” – Wikipedia

    This I believe is only the start of all their finances.

    Media: The Vatican hits news articles nearly every day, there are world wide broadcasts of all their annual ceremonies as people flock to the Vatican. How ever when the media try to expose these wicked men, they retaliate : .

    According to the Bible there will be a great falling away from the True Gospel, in the end times so we observe this today. Whether your part of the Charismatics, Catholics or Calvinists your still part of the same coin. Still believing in the same doctrine. ( 2 Thessalonians 2:3)

    There is so much more information I would love to share with you all, several more similarities that all these devious sects share. They are parts of the same engine that drive the motor towards the end. So I encourage you to find you own Truth. (John 17:17)

    If it’s not the catholics that pray to mary to undermine Jesus as Lord and Saviour, the charismatics that put themselves on the same level as Jesus, Muslims that deny Jesus as Saviour, Satanists that pray to lucifer or the Jewish folk that also deny Jesus as Lord and Saviour it’s all relatively the same.

  2. Moemsie says:

    Brilliant!! Thanks!

  3. Deborah (Discerning the World) says:

    Hi Chris

    Well you can sign up on the right hand side and join our little community that will give you opportunity to communicate with people (privately) or however you want. So if anyone wants to ask you anything they can send you a private message through the community. Also people looking for fellowship can find it this way.

  4. Deborah (Discerning the World) says:

    Moemsie

    Oh that community thingie, I built just for you :) no really – the day you came online the day I started planning how to meet your guys needs. So join and hopefully you meet people who live near you!

  5. Chris says:

    Hi Deborah, Moemsie

    Thank you so much will be sure to sign up right away

    God speed

  6. Chris says:

    Found it

  7. MICHAEL ABDO says:

    Hi i agree with your statement.I was in CRC for three years ,was made overseer over all the cell groups.My wife and my self gave over R30,000 + for there(crc ) building project cash (receipt i still have).When we were financially sound.But when we were in financial need .THE PASTERS RUSSEL ,and JJ were aware of our situation they did not even send us a food parcel .I sent Ps At a personal facebook message ,by which he deleted me from his facebook ,his son also wanted to beat me up for “attacking” his father.they then just took away my cell goup and handed it over to one of my cell group member.For they told me not to touch GOD,S ANOINTED.THIS “church ” is just a poncy scheme.A farce! in one year they went on holiday 4 times ,Switzerland,Israel,Australia (2)and are on holiday again,number 5.BUT I DO PRAY FOR PASTER AT AND THE CHURCH MEMBERS SO THAT THERE EYES MIGHT BE OPENED

  8. Deborah (Discerning the World) says:

    Chris

    That’s the one!

  9. Deborah (Discerning the World) says:

    Michael Abdo

    Religious white collar crime! That’s it. Because they go under the name of ‘religion’ they can get away with day light robbery.

  10. Dion says:

    Hi everyone! Since At Boshoff has thus far not responded to my September 2010 invitation to debate issues around the doctrine he stands for, I bought one of his two books today to study – hopefully to learn something about his doctrine… After having read the 1st two chapters I have discovered that At truly believes what he preaches and that money is the driving force in his life, not God. I so much wish to meet with him to talk about fully submitting to the will of God as opposed to the drivel he believes (ie. God wants to bless you with wealth)and the drivel he preaches. I noted that he is not at all a skilled writer (either that or his copywriter is weak) and that he does not really know how to get his point accross – he repeats the same thing over and over and over without saying anything from a Biblical perspective and when he refers to Scripture he wraps thruth with so much error, it makes me want to cry because nothing contained in the 1st two chapters of his book “Live a YES! life”, refers to being born again like Jesus and the Apostles spoke of. Everything so far suggests that the reader should “come to Jesus who can’t wait to make you rich and bless you with everything you’ve ever wanted…”
    At if you truly were interested in preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ to the lost and to those who are truly searching, please stop preaching the lies which you so strongly believe – you are mislead and you are misleading many, and for this you are going to be held personally accountable! Please, stop your lies!
    If by chance any readers of this Blog know At, please let him know that many thousands are waiting for him to take a stand for his doctrine and that the safest and most balanced platform he could trust in is the public platform to which I am hereby again inviting him to attend. To those who may wish to share their CRC experiences with me, please leave your message here and I shall contact you. My brother in the Lord Chris,will also welcome your information/experiences contributions on all issues CRC.
    Greetings.
    PS. Hi Deborah, I trust you are well!

  11. Dan Knezacek says:

    The best book I have ever read on the subject of tithing is “Tithing: Low-Realm, Obsolete & Defunct” by Matthew Narramore. I originally read it on his website, but liked it so much that I went and bought a copy.

    His website is: http://tekoapublishing.com/books/tithing/ and you can also get it from Amazon. If you have ever fallen victim to the tithe-teachers this is a scriptural study of giving from a biblical Christian perspective.

    I gave a copy to a brother, at a church we used to attend, and was declared a false-teacher at the next deacon’s meeting! Subsequently we were asked not to come back, but they still wanted us to keep our kids in their school!

    You expect the world to be angry when we talk about Jesus, but sometimes persecution comes from surprising directions!

    The pharisees don’t like it when you take a stand for truth!

  12. Deborah (Discerning the World) says:

    Dion

    I r well :)

  13. Deborah (Discerning the World) says:

    Dan

    You can’t come back but you must keep your kids at their school (re: school fees I guess) lol. Funny.

  14. antonio says:

    Thanx Chris, well documented …… i will always remember one phrase ….>> we will all be held accountable and will stand before our Lord, holy Son of God ….

  15. Chris says:

    Hi Antonio and Michael

    To Antonio – It is a pleasure, but all praise has to go to God, for He is the One that gave us His Truth, without it we would be just like the rest.

    Michael – I went to school with At’s son, or at least was in the same school he was in, he does not fall far from the tree I can bare testimony to this. An aura of arrogance and no sense of urgency to stay on the narrow path could be picked up from any stance while observing his ethos or characteristics. Isn’t this another contradicting paradox when it comes to At’s morals and stance as “pastor” over a congregation? Titus 1:5-10, If At can’t rule over his own household correctly how does he plan to do so over a whole congregation?

    These are upsetting thoughts to the current members of the congregation, it is a sensitive topic and so when we approach them we have to be as wise as serpents and as harmless as doves.Matthew 10:16 Harmless – Akéraios – Without any mixture of deceit.
    Wise – Phrónimos – to use practical wisdom in relations to others – to be sensible

    What these men are doing can not be silenced by our mouths any longer, which is why this site is so great in exposing a lie for a lie, calling a spade a spade. . .

  16. Burning Lamp says:

    Debs, this goes off topic for this thread, but I feel I must issue a warning to anyone who might cruise over to Dan’s site. There is much that is good, but there is a dangerous and destructive agenda afoot over there and I would advise steering clear of it.
    One of Dan’s major issues is distorting Scripture to defend and thereby promote the consumption of alcoholic beverages. Why he feels the need to do this as a believer is beyond me. Does he love his fermented beverages so much he is obsessed with defending the practice of imbibing? Does he feel it is essential to the happiness and well-being of the believer?
    He seems to ignore the overriding principle of caring about the welfare of others over our own desires. The carnage on the road, domestic abuse, child abuse, sexual sin, and the list goes on and on. Just yesterday I heard that the major cause of fatal accidents in our state was NOT due to drunk drivers, but by those who had been drinking “moderately”. It only takes ONE drink to make one an impaired driver.
    The liquor industry is wicked and is a major tool of Satan. Sadly, most pastors won’t address the issue for fear of being too legalistic. He posts a series of correspondence he had with a pastor on this issue. Dan would have done well to take this pastor’s wise counsel but instead he spurns it.
    The Bible tells us we are not to engage in any activity that could cause someone to stumble. Anyone with a brain knows that no one sets out to become addicted to alcohol. Our witness and example are important. Parents who set the example of drinking in the home are courting disaster. I grew up in an alcoholic home and I thank God that He gave me a hatred for the stuff so I never was tempted in that way. But the damage it did to my home and childhood are still with me.
    Dan uses Matthew 11:19 to prove his point and say that Jesus drank fermented wine. This is a derogatory reference to Jesus for his association with the lower class and non believers. It was an ACCUSATION. Jesus was FALSELY accused of being a winebibber it never said Jesus was drinking the hard stuff.
    Jesus would never have made fermented wine at the wedding feast. Fermentation is a form of spoilage, a result of the fall. Our Savior would never have created something that had deteriorated – it was the very best grape juice, possibly what will be served at the Marriage Supper of the Lamb. Does Dan think we will be having fermented wine in heaven? Jesus would NEVER have contributed to getting anyone intoxicated.
    “Thus saith the Lord, as the new wine is found in the cluster, and one saith, destroy it not; for a blessing is in it: so will I do for my servants’ sakes, that I may not destroy them all.” Isaiah 65:8 When the juice of the grape is still “in the cluster” God calls it “wine” and it is obviously NOT fermented. One must look closely at the Word –the word “wine” can mean either fermented or not fermented.
    Dan, you have NOT rightly divided the Word on this issue and you are playing right into Satan’s hand. May the Lord open your eyes so that you will not lose your reward.

  17. Burning Lamp says:

    Regarding the topic of tithing, I do feel this is often misrepresented and misunderstood. God is a God of order. Yes, we are not under law, but grace in the New Covenant. However, to completely disregard the CONCEPT of tithing is like throwing the baby out with the bath.

    Personally, in our home we have decided a certain % of our income that is SET ASIDE for the Lord from the beginning. That is the baseline of sorts. That does not mean there is a limit or legalistic rule. It is merely a GUIDE to giving. Giving should NOT be helter-skelter – God likes plans and so should we. We should consider giving to be important enough to have a plan.

    Too often people who abandon the CONCEPT of orderly giving get sloppy about it and this is not God-honoring and may not even get around to giving anything at all. In my view God intends for us to SET ASIDE His portion and give Him first place in our finances.

    We plan other aspects of our finances or least responsible people do, should we do less for our Lord?

    Just asking the question……..I am suspicious of those who totally discount the CONCEPT of the tithe. Maybe this should be another whole topic for another day and another thread. I seem to be hijacking threads today, but I thought it was important to respond since it was brought up on this thread.

  18. Deborah (Discerning the World) says:

    BL

    Tithing in the NT defined is GIVING joyfully. If one wants to give joyfully a set % and expects nothing in return…then perfectly fine. Others would then say to give joyfully a set amount but they expect 10 fold in return… wrong.

  19. Burning Lamp says:

    You are so right. The key is the joyful part. I can give joyfully as I set aside a certain % to the Lord as a first fruit. It gives me great joy to do so. It also gives me great joy to give beyond that as the Spirit leads.

    The Lord owns ALL we have, and I think He is pleased when we put Him first before everything else and set aside His portion from the get-go. That requires forethought and sense of purpose. I don’t see that as legalistic if it is done out of gratitude and respect for our Lord. It all lies in the motives of the heart.

  20. Talita says:

    Dion,
    I was leader at the womans ministry in Pretoria. We started an outreach and nursery school under the CRC banner. Sadly CRC did not contribute even R1-00. Everything had to come from donations and from the leaders’ pockets – and it had to be above our tithes – this was made very clear!.
    Nyretta was never part of the outreach, but when we organised the German TV station to do a documentary – as part of a soccer sponsorship drive, Guess who was first to be there? Yip, Ps Nyretta!,… and the true workers were shifted to the background, and was not even allowed there on the day. The cameraman of the news station got very upset with Nyretta, and told her that this program is not about her – or her church, but about the people and children of the community. What an embarrassment!
    The saddest part for me, is that the volunteer that ended up running the outreach project – at that stage battled financially, and was selling newspapers on the street corners – all whilst the pastors wanted to take all the glory, and not paying this woman for her efforts. Sad, isnt it?

    Bottomline – the Christmas parties, outreaches and projects that I have been involved with – the majority, and in some instances all of the money came from donations. Makes me think where does the tithes go to? and what about the offerings? As far as I know they do not support missionaries either.
    I believe that God will reveal His Truth to the CRC congregation soon, I just hope for their sakes that it is in this life, while they still have time to repent. (Some of Ps At’s teachings was that we did not have to fear the Lord, nor ask for forgiveness for our sins daily..)

  21. Michael says:

    Talitha,Chris,Deon,Dan and Michael A…what an abomination…it is really so so bad.At Boshoff and CRC are imposters and are wolves in sheeps clothing…all their wicked, lying deeds MUST be exposed.
    This is our Christian duty.

  22. donna says:

    Burning Lamp wrote:

    Debs, this goes off topic for this thread, but I feel I must issue a warning to anyone who might cruise over to Dan’s site. There is much that is good, but there is a dangerous and destructive agenda afoot over there and I would advise steering clear of it.
    One of Dan’s major issues is distorting Scripture to defend and thereby promote the consumption of alcoholic beverages. Why he feels the need to do this as a believer is beyond me. Does he love his fermented beverages so much he is obsessed with defending the practice of imbibing? Does he feel it is essential to the happiness and well-being of the believer?
    He seems to ignore the overriding principle of caring about the welfare of others over our own desires. The carnage on the road, domestic abuse, child abuse, sexual sin, and the list goes on and on. Just yesterday I heard that the major cause of fatal accidents in our state was NOT due to drunk drivers, but by those who had been drinking “moderately”. It only takes ONE drink to make one an impaired driver.
    The liquor industry is wicked and is a major tool of Satan. Sadly, most pastors won’t address the issue for fear of being too legalistic. He posts a series of correspondence he had with a pastor on this issue. Dan would have done well to take this pastor’s wise counsel but instead he spurns it.
    The Bible tells us we are not to engage in any activity that could cause someone to stumble. Anyone with a brain knows that no one sets out to become addicted to alcohol. Our witness and example are important. Parents who set the example of drinking in the home are courting disaster. I grew up in an alcoholic home and I thank God that He gave me a hatred for the stuff so I never was tempted in that way. But the damage it did to my home and childhood are still with me.
    Dan uses Matthew 11:19 to prove his point and say that Jesus drank fermented wine. This is a derogatory reference to Jesus for his association with the lower class and non believers. It was an ACCUSATION. Jesus was FALSELY accused of being a winebibber it never said Jesus was drinking the hard stuff.
    Jesus would never have made fermented wine at the wedding feast. Fermentation is a form of spoilage, a result of the fall. Our Savior would never have created something that had deteriorated – it was the very best grape juice, possibly what will be served at the Marriage Supper of the Lamb. Does Dan think we will be having fermented wine in heaven? Jesus would NEVER have contributed to getting anyone intoxicated.
    “Thus saith the Lord, as the new wine is found in the cluster, and one saith, destroy it not; for a blessing is in it: so will I do for my servants’ sakes, that I may not destroy them all.” Isaiah 65:8 When the juice of the grape is still “in the cluster” God calls it “wine” and it is obviously NOT fermented. One must look closely at the Word –the word “wine” can mean either fermented or not fermented.
    Dan, you have NOT rightly divided the Word on this issue and you are playing right into Satan’s hand. May the Lord open your eyes so that you will not lose your reward.

    I read a good article on wine and it was interesting to note that there is two different words used for wine, one is for formented and the other is for unformented, and the one for unformented was the word used for when Jesus attended the wedding.
    I used to drink and today I think it is TOTALLY WRONG to drink alcohol of any kind for any reason…..God totally set me free when I became a Christian and I have never touched a drink since….that was nearly 10 years ago. I don’t allow it in my house, and I do not agree with Christians using alcohol. There is not ONE good reason to drink anything that has alcohol in it~!~!~ Those who teach others to sin are or cause others to fall risk getting themselves into deep trouble with God, they have to realize that.

  23. Deborah (Discerning the World) says:

    donna

    >> I read a good article on wine and it was interesting to note that there is two different words used for wine, one is for formented and the other is for unformented, and the one for unformented was the word used for when Jesus attended the wedding.
    I used to drink and today I think it is TOTALLY WRONG to drink alcohol of any kind for any reason…..God totally set me free when I became a Christian and I have never touched a drink since….that was nearly 10 years ago. I don’t allow it in my house, and I do not agree with Christians using alcohol. There is not ONE good reason to drink anything that has alcohol in it~!~!~ Those who teach others to sin are or cause others to fall risk getting themselves into deep trouble with God, they have to realize that.

    I totally agree

  24. Burning Lamp says:

    It would be great to see Dan come over and comment. He is doing a huge disservice to the Body of Christ – thank you for your comments Donna – praise God you broke free.

  25. Nathan says:

    Dion wrote:

    Hi everyone! Since At Boshoff has thus far not responded to my September 2010 invitation to debate issues around the doctrine he stands for, I bought one of his two books today to study – hopefully to learn something about his doctrine… After having read the 1st two chapters I have discovered that At truly believes what he preaches and that money is the driving force in his life, not God. I so much wish to meet with him to talk about fully submitting to the will of God as opposed to the drivel he believes (ie. God wants to bless you with wealth)and the drivel he preaches. I noted that he is not at all a skilled writer (either that or his copywriter is weak) and that he does not really know how to get his point accross – he repeats the same thing over and over and over without saying anything from a Biblical perspective and when he refers to Scripture he wraps thruth with so much error, it makes me want to cry because nothing contained in the 1st two chapters of his book “Live a YES! life”, refers to being born again like Jesus and the Apostles spoke of. Everything so far suggests that the reader should “come to Jesus who can’t wait to make you rich and bless you with everything you’ve ever wanted…”
    At if you truly were interested in preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ to the lost and to those who are truly searching, please stop preaching the lies which you so strongly believe – you are mislead and you are misleading many, and for this you are going to be held personally accountable! Please, stop your lies!
    If by chance any readers of this Blog know At, please let him know that many thousands are waiting for him to take a stand for his doctrine and that the safest and most balanced platform he could trust in is the public platform to which I am hereby again inviting him to attend. To those who may wish to share their CRC experiences with me, please leave your message here and I shall contact you. My brother in the Lord Chris,will also welcome your information/experiences contributions on all issues CRC.
    Greetings.

    PS. Hi Deborah, I trust you are well!

    Dear Reader.

    Couldnt agree more with the comments on given post.

    The Lord clearly states in 1Tim 6 3-5. If anyone teaches otherwise and does not consent to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and the doctrine of our Lord Jesus Christ, and the doctrine that accords with Godliness he is proud, knowing nothing, but is obsessed with diputes and arguments over words, from which comes envy, strife, evil suspicions, useless wranglings of men of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth, who suppose that godliness is a means of gain. Fron such withdraw yourself. now godliness with contentment is great gain.

    I write as i find it heartbreaking that the truth has become so tainted with a spirit of vein glory. In the picture God gave us of the Isrealites journey out of egypt( a type of the world) we must not forget that God did not bring them out of Egypt to take them to the promised land, He led them out to worship Him in the desert. The desert is a type of being in lack, call it financially, where only enough is to survive. This period, season, was there to prepare their souls for the revelation of Christ (Salvation), the mountain. Yet the hearts of the Isrealites was set upon the promised Land therefore they failed in prepairing their hearts for when God wanted to reveal Himself, yet they drank into the same Spiritual rock which was Christ but the word(salvation) was not received by faith. Consequintly they fled running 60 miles into the desert coming back asking for rules to serve God by, then the law came and God said in my wrath I swear they would never enter My rest.
    There is much teaching going on posessing the promised Land, but we shouldn’t be quick to forget that the next couple of thousand of years is the teaching of the Hebrews living in the shadow they did not posess the reality(Heaven)

    Now my question is if converts are tought to keep their focus on the promised land (earthly inheritance) are they going to succeed in pressing into Jesus to prepare their souls so the Spirit of true Glory can posess their souls? or are they going to suffer the same condemnation as the Hebrews.

    The whole of New testament scripture is focused on taking our eyes of the world, and if doing so the Spirit strips your mind of the spirit of vein glory and its only then when Truth is found in scripture, God came to take us out of the world and to sanctify us to translate us into His Kingdom of light of which only one experience of it will consume you on such a high level that you WILL loose all earthly interest exept bringing thruth to the people. Only then will you be fit to reign the earth with Christ. Phill 3 17-21 Bretheren join in following my example and note who so walk, as you have us for a pattern. For many walk, of whom I tell you often, and now even tell you weeping that they are enemies of the cross of Christ; WHOSE END IS DESTRUCTION, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is their shame-who sets their mind on earthly things. For our citizenship is in heaven from which we so eagerly wait for the savior our Lord Jesus Christ who will transform our lowly bodies that it may be conformed unto His glorious body(the body of righteousness) by the working by which He is able to subdue all things to Himself.

    1John2 Do not love the world or the things in world. If anyone loves the world the love of the Father is not in him. For all thats in the world-the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes and the pride of life- is not of the FAther but is of the world.

    Now love is the bond of perfection, if the abiding love of God is not in the soul the purification power of faith in Christ is inoperative, the cross is denying the world and seeking to be translated to the kingdom of heaven, the core message of what Jesus came to preach. But love being the ingredient by which it is done. Love and humility opens up the mysteries of faith , knowledge of truth that opens up the door of life. If converts are pushed towards earthly inheritance arent they then getting led away from the love of God?

    FAith is the substance of things hoped for the evedinece of things not seen( Heb 11) A huge account is then given on all the patriarchs of faith and I want to lift out Abraham the father of faith. This teaching of faith is preached as an application of envisioning a earthly want and keeping it in mind until it happens, yet if one take a look at Heb11 16 but now they desire the better the heavenly country. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God.
    One can clearly see hereby what Abraham was believing God for, the heavenly country. He was focused on the mountain.

    Dear people Christ is the promised land, He is the one we should behold in singularity of mind hardship is the way in which the soul is prepared for truth. Don’t bent to the golden image, and if you dont and you get thown into the fiery furnace by the enemy do not be afraid for you will see Jesus standing with you so the flames will not hurt you at all.

    What does it help a man to gain the whole world and loose his soul?

    To those desiples of Christ suffering lack James tells us that God chose the poor of this world to be rich in faith and heirs of the kingdom which He promised to those who love Him. Keep the faith expect the heavenly and you WILL be pleasantly surprised.

    People we need to love God with all our hearts, minds, soul, body and strength. A beholding(continual meditation or thinking) of any earthly desire contitutes to Idolitry and any such will not inherit the Kingdom of God.

    Lets make sure and absolute dilligence of seeking truth and dont be misled with empty words, the eternal life of your soul is at stake. Cry out for truth and He will teach you all you need to know, He is and will always be the most loving teacher.

    Love you all! Remember we are all part of the same body, love one another with a pure heart, If you heart one another you heart yourself.

    Would like to hear from you Dion. I was also in CRC for a couple of years and God pulled me out with force. Yet my wish is not to crucify Pastor Att but I have great concern for the people.
    GRACE AND PEACE!

    Nathan

  26. Deborah (Discerning the World) says:

    Nathan

    Thank you so much for you comment. Wonderful.

  27. Chris says:

    I will never call At Boshoff a “pastor” because he is no pastor in a real sense and does not qualify as one. A wolf in sheep’s clothing yes!

    Due to the seriousness of the topic and the very obvious contorting of the Scriptures for gain of financial benefit it is worthy to quote Paul:
    Cor 11:13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
    2Cor 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
    Cor 11:15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

    I have had to comfort many of his victims – people who had lost most if not all of their possessions, but worst of all their faith.
    It is extremely sad that those who have fallen victim to At Boshoff normally end up so incredibly broken.

    These people were all good enough when they tithed their 10% (Which by the way is not Biblical) and have additionally given offerings and free will offerings and the Lord knows what else taken from them as result of contorted Scriptures, but as soon as these people had a need the pastor turned a cold shoulder and ignored them – as in the case of Michael Abdo above. (Michael you were extremely unlucky wit CRC I know of people who were given some dented tins of bake beans, a broken sugar container and other limited rejects which was sourced from supermarkets.)

    I myself was in financial trouble while at CRC. Many of the pastors came to pray yet no relief whatsoever from CRC – that is not a church because the true body of Christ always suffers with the rest of the body. What does it benefit anyone if you pray for them and give nothing to sustain the brother or sister in the Lord.

    Jas 2:16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
    Jas 2:17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

    Now it is At that preaches those in need have a lack of faith, hence their financial shortcoming but again we understand quite the opposite from Scripture – it is those with resources who do not assist the hurting believers materially, that are without faith.

    The last case I dealt with was not much different from the others I have had to council .The symptoms of the victims are always more or less the same:
    1. Broken homes where the husband or wife need to go and work in other cities and where children are sent away as the parents do not have the means to care for them anymore.
    2. Divorce or possibilities of this.
    3. The onset of substance abuse like alcohol to escape the hurt.
    4. Many of them consider suicide and possibly have gone that route.
    5. Normally these people will not want to hear anything about Christianity again
    6. Most importantly, all of the victims I have spoken to have told me that they find it hard to believe that there is a God after they had been let down and bankrupted.

    Now if this is the fruit and eventuality of CRC causing people to turn from God, one may only shudder realising who is the author of such fruits.

    Come out of her my people says the Lord Jesus!

    In support of Dion I would also want to ask people who have been hurt to contact us on this blog.

    I know of many people who would not want to because they are to scared and or they think it is unbiblical.

    In my possession I have an e-mail of someone who was At Boshoff’s right hand man for 7 years and I quote him:
    “You must remember I was next to him for 7 years and I know him in all his devious ways. I have seen situations where even violence was threatened.
    My office was known as the crying room and a place for damaged staff to be strengthened.” Also “Even as Luther believed that Rome was the seat of Satan, I hold similar opinions regarding that little kingdom up the road from you.”
    And
    “With most of us who got hurt in this manner , it was because we trusted and were therefore loyal beyond measure. Betrayal was never even a considered a thought by those who served and because of this, we never saw it coming from above. There were quite a bunch of us who suffered in this way. Some are in Cape Town, some in Pretoria , many in Bloem and even some in the UK. Even last year, when yet another vile lie from the devil came out against me from his messenger in a meeting with a pastor from UK, I was unmoved. This lie was exposed to the man who informed me and who has removed himself from further relationship with the Bloem Church. ”

    Please come out of the closet, we could not care less about At Boshoff except for his repentance and his salvation but remember the Scripture:
    Tit 1:7 For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God; not selfwilled, not soon angry, not given to wine, no striker, not given to filthy lucre;
    Tit 1:8 But a lover of hospitality, a lover of good men, sober, just, holy, temperate;
    Tit 1:9 Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers.
    Tit 1:10 For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision:

    Tit 1:11 Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre’s sake.

    If At Boshoff refuses to listen then at least let us do something to stop other brothers and sisters in Christ from being abused, hurt and destroyed.

    We would like to hear from you and your support will not go unnoticed by the Lord Jesus.

  28. Deborah (Discerning the World) says:

    Chris

    I totally agree, people need to come out and speak up. Nothing to be afraid of, nothing at all. Paul warned against 8 people in the bible, he wrote letters about these people to others and forewarned them to be careful.

  29. MICHAEL ABDO says:

    Hi to all, thanks to all your comments .All the time i thought i was alone.That maybe i was out of line and out of touch with this new modern gospel preaching.What i was reading in the Holy Scriptures just did not correspond with AT,S teachings.
    I posted this article on my facebook profile to friends of friends ,knowing that it will reach quite a few crc members.Which it did and i got some serious backlash from guys very close to At and his associates.
    SEE same comments from these guys

    Hi Michael Anthony,
    JJ Jackson commented on your link.
    JJ wrote: “One of the reasons many people will never turn to Jesus is because of the internal fighting in Christian circles. People trying to be more righteous when we have it already. Think before you put something so spiteful on facebook; is this helping expand the kingdom, or cause other religions to laugh at us while millions will end up going to hell. ”

    See the comment thread

    Reply to this email to comment on this link.

    Thanks,
    The Facebook Team

    facebook
    Hi Michael Anthony,
    Andre Lombard commented on your link.
    Andre wrote: “Who appointed you to become THE CHERIFF of tha Church,send me your appointment letter,rather mind your own business in your own small world you living in…..”

    See the comment thread

    Reply to this email to comment on this link.

    Thanks,
    The Facebook Team See Comment

    Hi Michael Anthony,
    Leriche Beneke commented on your link.
    Leriche wrote: “Slave vir Christus..? O e is n “follower en dissipel van Jesus” en michael my vriend ek weet wat die bybel se van toets als elke ding,spirit,preacher ens. En almal kan n fout maak,die feit en waarheid is,dat mense met jou mentaliteit so gefokus is op ander se foute en op comments soos bogenoemde wat jy van ons pastoor maak,dat jy nie die koningkryk van Jesus bou nie,ek sal voorstel,jy bid eerder vir jy broer AS hy dan n fout gemaak het in die slilte agter jou deure,i.p.v om dit n publieke ding op FB te maak,plaas honor jy hom vir al wat hy al vir God se koningkryk gedoen het,en hoeveel mense se lewens hy al geraak het,ek was my hele lewe lank in kerke,maar nooit n verhouding met God gehad nie,tot ek in Crc gekom het. Maar aan die ander kant michael,as daar nie mense is soos jy wat kritiek gee en die foute SOEK in ons kerk nie,weet ons,ons groei nie,want kritiek en opinies soos joune wys dat ons kerk groei en ons doen goed reg,dis hoe satan kerke aanval,en in die laaste tyd soos jy sal weet in die bybel staan broer sal teen broer draai,so ons verwag optredes soos joune,want ons weet ons lewe in die eindtyd. Ek stel voor jy sit iets op FB wat Christene sterker sal maak en saam sal staan,i.p.v om foute by ander te soek en negatiewe kommentaar te gee. Jesuslove Leriche”

    See the comment thread

    Reply to this email to comment on this link.

    Thanks,
    The Facebook Team See Comment

    The sad part is that some of these people have become so blind to the deception and lies of At Boshoff.

  30. Deborah (Discerning the World) says:

    Michael

    Nope you are not alone. I have received a few emails from a few people who were in dia-straits because of this mans teaching. Chris would like to contact you via email, can I give him your email address?

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