Jacob Prasch – But By The Grace of God [those Calvinists] . . . Tell The Truth!

Jacob Prasch - Calvinism

NEW: PLEASE READ THE ADDENDUM AT THE END OF THIS ARTICLE

I only recently came across an article written by James Jacob Prasch which he called “What Are We Left With?.”  I must say I wholeheartedly agree with him on everything he said in the greater part of his article, at least until a I read the very last paragraph.

Jacob Prasch says;  

“May God Bless Dave Hunt, Roger Oakland, Tony Peace, David Hocking, Arnold Fruchtenbaum, Warren Smith, Ray Yungen, Chuck Smith, Jack Hibbs, Bill Randles, Philip Powell, Mike Gendron, David Wilkerson, Ray Comfort, Justin Peters,Paul Washer , John MacArthur, Stuart Dool, Doug Harris, John Higgins, Joseph Fara, Bob De Waay and the other servants of the One True God who labor to uphold God’s eternal truth and proclaim the true Gospel in this age of apostasy and decline. None of these men are perfect or without flaw, nor above all either am I. But by the grace of God all of them tell the truth.   (Emphasis added).

[DTW note:  Justin Peters, Bob De Waay, Paul Washer and John MacArthur are all Calvinists that speak the truth according to Jacob Prasch]

Jacob Prasch and his favourites

It’s obvious that Dave Hunt is one of Prasch’s favorite writers and speakers, mentioning him first in a list of very illustrious and knowledgeable authors and preachers. I couldn’t agree more. Dave Hunt, in my opinion, is a gift of God to the church in these last days who like Paul of Tarsus “ceases not to warn every one night and day with tears” (Acts 20:31).  However, I was shocked to see the names of Justin Peters, Bob De Waay, Paul Washer and John MacArthur in his list of men who “but by the grace of God  . . . tell the truth” and “uphold God’s eternal truth and proclaim the true Gospel.”   Both these gentlemen, as Prasch himself knows, are staunch Calvinists whose doctrines of grace (as they call it) Dave Hunt rebukes and refutes as being a gross misrepresentation of God in his book “What Love Is This?” In the introduction “Why this Book?” Hunt writes:

 Most shocking of all, however, is Calvinism’s misrepresentation of God who “is love.”

If God is the essence of love, which of course He is, then the slightest misrepresentation of his love cannot possibly be called the truth. Both gentlemen, Paul Washer, and John MacArthur believe that Jesus did not die for everyone. Paul Washer is a wee bit more subtle in his approach to this particular “truth” and never says outrightly “Jesus did not die for everyone” but cunningly says in many of his videos on YouTube: “Jesus died the death OF HIS PEOPLE.” Who are his people? Well, of course, the elect only are God’s people. This is the kind of blasphemy John MacArthur and many other Calvinists spew out on their congregants and on the internet.

And James Jacob Prasch of Moriel Ministries says of these men (Paul Washer and John MacArthur): “but by the grace of God  [they]. . . tell the truth.” Is it true that Jesus Christ was crucified only for his people (a select few chosen ones)? If it is true, it must be from God. If not, then it is a lie and all lies emanate from the father of all lies, Satan himself. Calvinism is arguably one of the most dangerous doctrines on our planet. Everything they say about the doctrines of sanctification and living a life of holiness and absolute obedience to God is commendable but as soon as it comes to the very core of God’s will for all men, the salvation of their souls, they have it sorely wrong which borders dangerously on blasphemy.

Addendum:

In a Youtube video I watched today[1], Jacob Prasch says that if you do not put on the belt of truth around your waste and continue to wear it day and night, you cannot claim to have the breastplate of righteousness covering your heart. As soon as you take off the belt of Truth, the breastplate of righteousness automatically falls to the ground. I happen to agree with him one hundred percent.

Having said that, we cannot in the very least assume that Calvinists, whom Jacob Prasch hails as men who “tell the Truth,” have put on the breastplate of righteousness. It is impossible to say they have been endowed with the breastplate of righteousness when they proclaim the following hideous and satanic lies:

Jacob, are these guys telling the Truth? If they are, then you have every right to proclaim that they are endowed with both the belt of Truth and the breastplate of righteousness. If not, then you cannot possibly say that they are wearing the breastplate of righteousness. Wouldn’t you agree that they (Justin Peters, Bob De Waay, Paul Washer and John MacArthur) are going to end up in Babylon as well? Don’t you think you should apologize in public to God and the Body of Christ that you were wrong in saying” . . . by the grace of God, all of them tell the truth? If you do, I will be the first person to say in public that you are truly a man of God who wears both the belt of truth and the breastplate of righteousness to the honor and glory of God.


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Deborah (Discerning the World)
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Thomas

>> Deborah, why are all the comments in bold letters?

That’s a good question. I don’t know lol.

Deborah (Discerning the World)
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Ahh I figured it out, it’s fixed now. One comment’s html code on the bold was not complete it appeared to affect all comments from them on – interesting.

Warren McGrew
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Warren McGrew

Jacob Prasch believes John MacArthur is an apostate as he claims you can take the mark of the beast and repent later. This is an “in your face Jesus” as Jesus told us the very opposite. You will not find a better teacher than Jacob Prasch. I have listened to most of his messages. I am a former Calvinist who was delivered. I am very critical when it comes to the truth. I do not follow any man. Paul told us that after he died, wolves and false teachers would come into the church. You won’t here this being taught, but Paul’s statement places a question mark over EVERY teacher, including the church fathers, who came after Paul.

Warren McGrew
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Warren McGrew

Thomas Lessing (Watch and Pray / Waak en Bid) wrote:

Warren McGrew

I am very happy to hear that you have been delivered from the dangerous clutches of Calvinism. I would like to suggest that Prasch publicly retracts what he had said about John MacArthur. In that way he would at least no longer give credit to an apostate and lead those who regard him (Prasch) as a great teacher astray.

Jacob has made it public. He rips him to shreds, as well he should be. See http://propheticwitnessmovementnewportbranch.blogspot.com/2014/01/short-video-with-jacob-prasch.html

Warren McGrew
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Warren McGrew

Thomas, here is the clear evidence Prasch is rejecting MacArthur. Moriel is currently having a problem with their server. You can see his remarks at my blog site. http://wmcgrew.blogspot.com/2013/12/john-macarthur-polluting-world-blood-on.html

Warren McGrew
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Warren McGrew

Thomas, also he has a video on YouTube. He blasts MacArthur, as well as he should have. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOCqPUOJGsI

Warren McGrew
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Warren McGrew

Just as in many denominations I believe there are “Calvinsts” that love the Lord and the election part is just not clear to them (as it should not be clear). Even though I suffered in Calvinism, I still was blessed to learn the bible. I did have to “unlearn myself” with the help of the Holy Spirit. Jacob Prasch does not examine every teacher. I bet he will be more careful now!! I praise God for exposing MacArthur in a way that will be used of God. We all need to pray for Jacob as my understanding he was very sick last fall and close to death. I do not know of anyone like Jacob in the body and he has been a blessing to me as he exposes many the same false teachers I do. Jesus said four times “be not deceived”. Wow! God bless you!

Deborah (Discerning the World)
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Warren

1) Jacob Prasch speaks out of both sides of his mouth. He will agree and disagree with John MacArthur. JP ONLY recently had something negative to say about JMA because of JMA’s Mark of the Bearst comment. The fact of the matter JP should have said something about Calvinism but he does not because he follows men like George Whitfield (Methodist/Calvinist).

2) Why are you following a another man? JP is part of the Hebrew Roots movement, teaches that you need the Midrash in order to study the bible properly. And still believes Chuck Smith (Calvery Chapel) was a great guy:

3) Please open your eyes and stop worshipping this man “I do not know of anyone like Jacob in the body”

4) If there was people caught up in the Calvinist cult that are genuinely saved and are struggling to come to terms with the doctrines of grace then they are not to be called Calvinists, they are actually Christians and they will sooner or later leave as the Holy Spirit directs them away from false teaching.

Roger Quill
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Roger Quill

I believe Ray Comfort, although he associates with Calvinists, has denied being a Calvinist.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CEoQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fopenairoutreach.proboards.com%2Fthread%2F5891&ei=zy5nU7qgLZD3oATDwoHgDA&usg=AFQjCNH1mb4sUTRSVr13MB5HqKl21Cusdg&sig2=dxKfRpgY_PxnHOFLRzB0WA&bvm=bv.65636070,bs.1,d.cGU

Given that you reckon Eternal Security to be the truth and (based on your links) of import to the continuance of the Christian life, it seems peculiar that you would not here not that “deficiency”, that is according to you and not I, in the doctrine of a number of the others that you have noted such as Chuck Smith, whose doctrine is functionally that of the common characterization of the Arminian seeming to hold to “conditional security” with the possibility of apostasy, although he may have had a tendency to beat about the bush on this point of his dogma.

May all be well with you.

Trevor
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Trevor

I follow Jacob Prasch very closely, and he most definitely does not believe Calvinism and he is very critical of it (he refers to Calvinists as Gnostics who spiritualize and twist scriptures to do with Israel and Election). He even says that 85% of what John MacArthur teaches is good to very good, but we part company in the other areas.

You need to get your facts straight before pulling things out of context. I also disagree with MacArthur on Calvinism but he has some very good teachings and I’ve enjoyed listening to many of his sermons. Satan is laughing at the church tearing itself apart and failing to reach out to the world.

On essentials unity, on non essentials love. No Christian is perfect or holds 100% truth. I recently left a church that was pushing Calvinism, but I don’t deny that they are Christian brothers and sisters. I posted on their website why I strongly disagreed before I left and that was that.

Mary
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Mary

We certainly are living in confusing times, especially in the church. I think you have more hope of finding the truth by staying home and reading your bibles and finding the like minded believers and fellowship with them. Unfortunately these men like JPRASCH, John Mac are both teaching false gospels and need to marked and avoided regardless how well they preach on certain topics. This is a ploy of the enemy to reel you in.

Neither of their gospels will save you, they have been such a source of division for christians. Their teachings will mislead you. They are both salvation by works gospels, they preach an accursed gospel. They will held accountable for all the souls they have misled.

Stay away from the Calvanists/Arminst/Romanists, too many people follow John Macarthur, just because he is intelligent and articulate, pray for Mac that he comes out of his error, he has been told by many that he is in error. I believe he is a modern day judaiser. If u are not one of the elect, i am afraid JM its not good news. Calvanists have a differnt gospel and Jesus. Pray for god to open their eyes to this satanic jesus they serve.

Deborah (Discerning the World)
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Mary

I agree with you wholeheartedly!!

Ida Geyser
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Hi DTW,

I don’t find the information on David Wilkerson, as I thought this article would give me. Is there any information on him, is he a false preacher? I find a lot of truth in his stuff, he cries a lot also. Thanks, you are doing a good job. The truth will set us free.

Deborah (Discerning the World)
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Hi Ida hi

I think he is ok, but have not checked.

I always get confused between Bruce Wilkinson and David Wilkerson

I had to learn to not let pastor’s tears and emotions when preaching get the better of me. We seem to think because they are crying they must be genuine. Listen to what they preach Ida, that’s where you find the truth of the matter.

Robbie
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Robbie

I read long ago that he made some false prophecies (tho this is a newish article)
Call to discernment (Not Justin Peters) also “attacked” him in 2013 but It is difficult to substantiate these claims.
I looked for videos of DW where he gets called “false prophet” to hear from the horses mouth but I found it were Calvinists and prosperity pewers attacking.

More claims are made by – https://endtimesprophecyreport.com/2016/04/26/david-wilkerson-false-prophet/ – but like I said, to me it lacks evidence at this stage…

Deborah (Discerning the World)
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Hi Ida and Robbie

My current opinion is that he is ok, but that is without researching his teaching thoroughly…

I just want to add, a pastor crying is not a sign of ‘trying to mislead’ either… I just take caution when I see this because I’ve seen a few very cunning false teachers use tears to ‘soften ones heart to false teaching’.

TREENA GISBORN
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Dear Deborah.. I don’t know if you are aware of the recent developments regarding Jacob Prasch? I have emailed Graham Baldwin of ‘Catalyst’ and I wonder if you would also be interested in doing the same with your record of how you were treated by him? God bless.
https://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.com/2018/12/my-email-to-graham-baldwin-regarding.html

Pat
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Pat

Treena is not alone and there will be more. Blessings
closingstages.net/2018/12/19/we-too-have-contacted-catalyst-graham-baldwin-concerning-jacob-prasch-moriel/

Deborah (Discerning the World)
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Tom

You said “In conclusion, I would like to encourage all the women who are whining and whinging about the hurt and the suffering caused by Jacob Prasch’s railings and start reminding themselves what Jesus said:

Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness’ sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you. (Matthew 5:10-12).”

Amen clap