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Joyce Meyer – Shocking False Teachings and Quotes

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Joyce Meyer is a Word of Faith Charismatic / New Age teacher who preaches along the lines of Kenneth Copeland, Kenneth Hagin, Fred Price, Charles Capp, Benny Hinn, Paul and Jan Crouch, and those who appear on Trinity Broadcasting Network (TBN), etc.

Listen to the audio below for a full a list of all her most serious heresies:   (Jesus tortured in hell, Jesus first born again man, Jesus became sin on the cross and stopped being the son of God, our sins atoned in hell and not on the cross, etc., and Joyce Meyer teaches that she is sinless.]

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Joyce Meyer also teaches that we are little gods, see this article:  Joyce Meyer is a Little God With a Big Christ Consciousness.

But this is one of the latest quotes (2010) from Joyce Meyer and quite an incredible statement:

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Time:  00:14:19     We’re never going to mature and develop godly character until we learn to live….. with the All-Seeing eye on us all the time.”    — [Joyce Meyer - Transcript - Enjoying Everyday Life - Be Imitators of God - 7/10/2010]

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This symbol of theAll-Seeing eye  is the single most important symbol of the Illuminati, for it exemplifies the supernatural power they wield from Satan himself. The All-Seeing eye  CANNOT be interpreted as being that of the Christian God.  No where in the bible do we read about the All-Seeing eye , but we do know about the All-Seeing eye  in the occult….


“The All-Seeing eye represents the Egyptian Osirus, let’s look at who Osiris is. He committed incest with his sister, Isis, which resulted in the birth of Horus … the Egyptian god of the dead as well as a Sun God .. Osiris is known by many other names in other countries … In Thrace and Greece, he is known as Dionysus, the god of pleasures and of partying and wine … Festivals held in Dionysus’ honor often resulted in human sacrifices and orgiastic sexual rites. The Phrygians know Osiris as Sabasius where he is honored as the solar deity (a sun god) who was represented by horns and his emblem was a serpent. In other places, he is know by other names: Deouis, The Boy Jupiter, The Centaur, Orion, Saturn, The Boy Plutus, Iswara, The Winged One, Nimrod, Adoni, Hermes, Prometheus, Poseidon, Butes, Dardanus, Himeros, Imbors, Iasius, Zeus, Iacchus, Hu, Thor, Serapis, Ormuzd, Apollo, Thammuz, Atus, Hercules, Shiva, Moloch, and believe it or not, BAAL!”       –-Burns, Masonic and Occult Symbols Illustrated, pg. 359 [Emphasis in the original]

God condemns Baal worship in no uncertain terms, a worship associated with the All-Seeing Eye.

Jer 32:35;   “And they built the high places of Baal, which are in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to cause their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire unto Molech; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my mind, that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin.”   [KJV 1611]

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93 comments to Joyce Meyer – Shocking False Teachings and Quotes

  • Marion

    The sound of her voice as she says “all-seeing” eye is MOST creepy!

  • Kay

    I have read numerous articles that she is loved by lesbians. http://www.religiondispatches.org/dispatches/candacechellew-hodge/2461/joyce_meyer_joins_condemnation_of_uganda_anti-gay_bill
    Texe Marrs has wondered if she is one herself but so far no one has proved it beyond a doubt that she is.

    I know she is very popular in South India, maintaining an office in Hydrabad, and comes to South India for huge seminars. I find this odd as crusades are against the law here in India. This means she would have to bribe some government official in order to to do this. The government would not allow her to share her faith nor say anything against the Indian government.

    So, why bother speaking in India? She will take the programs back to the States, slice them and dice them, claiming she is bringing Jesus to the poor people of India… so send the money in!!! Of course almost none of the money goes back to helping the Indian people. She will send some to an orphanage that she occasionally supports near her office.

    Benny Hinn also does this. This just causes real problems for the rest of us that sincerely want to get God’s Word to the lost in this area. Most of the lost here will assume all Christians are just out to make a buck off of them.

  • Burning Lamp

    Kay you are so right that these type of ministries, including James Robison use humanitarian projects as a “hook” to lure in well-meaning Christians to bring bucks into their coffers. There is no assurance that these funds will go to any particular project. And you can bet dollars to donuts that they have the best people to cook up these promos that show them in the best light. There are nondescript ministries that operate on a shoestring and spend every penny doing what they say they do and it is not eaten up in administrative costs and salaries and TV production costs. But since they don’t get the publicity, they are overlooked and people thrown their money down a rat hole.

    I must exhort you to beware of Texe Marrs. I used to get his newsletter until I started noticing things that didn’t seem right and after looking into it crossed him off my list as a sensationalist who plays fast and loose with the facts.

  • Myfanwy Brown

    BL who is Texe Marrs?? His name is vaguely familiar.

    When I was involved with WOF, I was introduced to Joyce Meyers, but something about her did not sit well with me. Her voice seems very deep, and what she said about the ‘all seeing eye’ also made me shiver!

  • Hanelie

    I came across this “all seeing eye” reference and other questions about Joyce Meyer’s ministry before I had really listened to her, but since I knew many people who followed her, I paid attention. I have heard claims that the audio on this one could have been edited. Be that the case or not, when I tried to listen to her, I found her message to much in the common humanitarian “self-help” genre.

    Burning Lamp wrote:

    … and after looking into it crossed him off my list as a sensationalist who plays fast and loose with the facts.

    I’ve found myself becoming extra, extra careful with all the big name, in your face, big-money ministries … and the conspiracy theorists. It is at times like these, when I get so down-hearted with all of this, with not knowing who to trust, that I’m constantly reminded of God’s amazing plan – providing us with the Holy Spirit inside us to guide us in these things? It really is more than my mind can make sense of. :)

  • Deborah (Discerning the World)

    Hanelie

    >> I have heard claims that the audio on this one could have been edited.

    I checked for this and I could not find anything of the sort.

    I did however find the trascript!!

    http://www.livedash.com/transcript/kron_4_news_at_11/4/KRON/Thursday_October_7_2010/315917/
    00:14:12 Character is what you do when nobody’s watching but god.
    00:14:19 We’re never going to mature and develop godly character until we learn to live with the all-seeing eye on us all the time.
    00:14:30 I mean, come on, we don’t do anything that god doesn’t see it.
    00:14:33 There’s nowhere we can go that he’s not.

  • Aren

    Thank you for providing the link to the transcript. Aforesaid gave me the opportunity to read it and make the correct assumption for myself. Now let me state outright that have never listened to any of Joyce Meyer’s sermons, lectures, or whatever you may call them, neither have I read any of her books, nor am I a follower, but I do have friends whose wife’s adore her, but that is their prerogative. The reason why I’m stating aforesaid is so that no one can claim that I am not objective. The Lord however gave me enough common sense (and brains) to at least be able to distinguish between the truth and blatant nonsense. And in this case, I’m afraid that the criticism directed at her regarding the all seeing eye is unfounded and nonsense. If you read it in context, she is simply referring to God that sees everything that we do. We may think that we do things unnoticed by others (in the dark), but God sees everything, and there is enough scripture to support this view. So please, do not make the mistake like so many other, e.g. the Jehovah’s, that takes one verse (or several) out of context and then base their believes on that particular verse. The Bible must be read in context, not just one verse here and there. And the comment that lesbians likes her, really, coming from a Christian. And you have proof of this? This is nothing other than gossip and unbecoming of a Christian.

    Having said the above, please keep up the good work as I enjoy the articles tremendously. And accept the criticism in good spirit as it is not meant to offend in any way.

    In Jesus,

    Aren

  • Deborah (Discerning the World)

    Aren

    >> And in this case, I’m afraid that the criticism directed at her regarding the all seeing eye is unfounded and nonsense. If you read it in context, she is simply referring to God that sees everything that we do…….The Bible must be read in context, not just one verse here and there.

    Please state from scripture where in the bible God is ever referred to as the All-Seeing eye. Or God watching over us is referred to as the All-Seeing Eye?

    >> Now let me state outright that have never listened to any of Joyce Meyer’s sermons, lectures,

    You’ve never listened to her so you can’t even make an informed decision. Let alone use your discernment.

    Are you sure you are not a Joyce Meyer fan?

    >> So please, do not make the mistake like so many other, e.g. the Jehovah’s, that takes one verse (or several) out of context and then base their believes on that particular verse.

    Oh you kidding me. You are the one that has not checked your bible!

    Me thinks you have been fooled, God is NOT the All-Seeing Eye, neither is His seeing everything we do referred to as the All-Seeing eye. No where is this found in the bible Aren, no where. But I beg you to go look.

  • Kate Akele

    Never liked Joyce Meyer, Creflo Dollar and their ilk especially her anyway!

  • Renita

    I find Joyce Meyer to be arogant and egotistic. I remember coming across a programme where she was raving about Madame Guyon; nuff said!!

  • Allan

    RE CHECKING OUT THE BIBLE AND THE ALL-SEEING GOD, ALLOW THE WORD ITSELF TO CORRECT THE CRITICISMS ABOVE.

    Also bear in mind that the scriptures were not originally written in English, so you can’t critique Joyce Meyer for saying He is the “All Seeing God”. It is the followers of Osirus that gave their god this name that was a deception and a lie. If Joyce had shown the Osirus eye symbol while she was talking about the All-Seeing God, then critics might have grounds for comment. As it is, the criticisms are unfounded. God clearly IS all-seeing as shown below….

    GOD SEES ALL
    Proverbs 15v3: “The eyes of the Lord are everywhere, keeping watch on the wicked and the good.”

    GOD SEES EVERYTHING
    Job 34v21-22: “His eyes are on the ways of mortals; he sees their every step. There is no deep shadow, no utter darkness, where evildoers can hide.

    GOD SEES US ALL
    Psalm 33v13: “From heaven the LORD looks down and sees all mankind.”

    If this doesn’t describe ‘all-seeing’ what does!!! Don’t get bogged down in semantics guys!

    And if your God can’t see everything, then He is not the true God at all!

  • Kate Salem

    3. Joyce Meyer-“There is no hope of anyone going to heaven unless they believe this truth I am presenting. YOU CANNOT GO TO HEAVEN unless you BELIEVE WITH ALL YOUR HEART that Jesus took your place in hell (p. 37).. [Joyce Meyer, The Most Important Decision You Will Ever Make Booklet, Fenton, Mo.: Life In The Word, Inc./Joyce Meyer Ministries, August 1991 edition, pg. 36; (pg. 42 of the current edition). Where is that in the Bible?

    Additionally Joyce Meyer teaches that Jesus suffering in hell three days, not the cross nor His shed blood, is where salvation was purchased. (Ibid., pp. 35-38, 41, 43; (pp. 41-44, 47, 49 of the current edition).

    http://www.combineharvesting.com/part_iii.html

  • Kelli

    Careful!!! NOT TO JUDGE GOD HAS ANNOINTED!!!

  • Deborah (Discerning the World)

    Kelli

    Ahhh *pats you on the head* now now… go listen to the audio and then make your final choice, Jesus Christ or Joyce Meyer.

  • Michael

    This clique “God’s Annointed” propagated by false indocrinated teachings prevalent in Word of Faith teachings is mis-enterpreted.It’s totally unbiblical…there was only one that in this CONTEXT was annointed and ABOVE APPROACH and that was the Annointed Messiah…the Lord Jesus Christ.
    The scriptures were written by annointed persons but that does mean that they (the individuals) were above approach…David is a classic example…some of his actions,thoughts and words were of the worse sins…he had to repent and get himself right with God otherwise his soul was in danger of Sheol and he knew that.
    These false teachers and prophets that bedevil and infiltrate the church in the last days love to make their followers believe this heresy…that they are annointed but obviously when they spout there own docrine that contradicts what is written, only shows that they are self-appointed…NOT ANNOINTED.
    I left a church which castigated me because I referred to Benny Hinn as a self-appointed charlatan and liar…which is cold fact and the truth…people are blinded by darkness and we are called to speak out against liars and false unbiblical teachings.
    Joyce Meyer has turned away from the true gospel and teaches obvious wrong concepts and doctrine. It is obviously very clear that there is absolutely no annointing of God here. We should pray for her rather…that God have mercy on her and lead back to the truth and that she repent but we need to reject that which clearly is false in what she preaches and writes.
    These people have installed a convenient mentality of “untouchables” amongst their blind followers…this “bleat” sets them up to spout out unscriptural garbage that is swallowed up by those you need their ears tickled…a doctrine that incidentally that is very little different to “the power of positive thinking” made popular way back by the Dale Carnegies,Napoleon Hills,Norman Vincent Peale and more recently the Tony Robbins and a host of others…too many to mention. This concept has CREPT into the church and has found itself rooted there. It is Satanic and has absolutely no place in a true believers heart.

  • jamadan

    This is my first exposure to your website. I must say that criticizing Joyce as being new age for using a phrase like “All Seeing Eye” as she did does nothing for your credibility. If you can’t see how she was deliberately using that phrase in a cultural and literary manner to illustrate God’s OmniPresence, as well and to interject some humor, then I don’t need to read anything more from here.

  • John Chingford

    Kelli

    Is it really true that the Bible teaches that we cannot “touch the anointed” preacher. Please read this article which shows what the bible teaches on this subject:

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  • Masha

    I think that J. Meyer always directs people to God almighty. Take any line out of context of any speech and you can get the wrong idea. Many a media outlet could tell you that. Political Campaigns do this.

    Her works, her website, her speeches, all promote the idea that we should serve God alone. Joyce is not perfect and if we were recorded for every word we ever said, I wonder if we would be criticized as heavily. The proof is not a line out of context and who likes or dislikes her, or “feelings” about her, the fact that she is a woman, etc., the question is what does her ministry promote, say, and what is the foundational understanding of that ministry — and does it point to Jesus Christ and his way of salvation.

    It is a “get real” ministry. Don’t pretend a faith. Ask God to revolutionize your faith so that you actually are walking and talking it. This my friends is true religion, when it is based on the relationship between us and Jesus. That is the core of what she preaches.

  • Deborah (Discerning the World)

    Masha

    Which Jesus Christ does she direct you too when the Jesus she says died in hell and not on the cross? Joyce is directing you to ANOTHER Jesus.

  • Deborah (Discerning the World)

    Allan

    No that does not describe the “ALL SEEING EYE”

    According to those scriptures God has 2 eyes and He sees everything. That is pretty obvious.

    No where in the bible will you find the worlds “All Seeing Eye” which is occult.

    Joyce Meyer DENIES JESUS CHRIST – if you listen to the audio you will hear her words blaspheme Jesus over and over again. So for her throw out words like ALL SEEING EYE is common place for this New Age Luciferian woman acting like a minister.

    You can try as hard as your can to defend Joyce Meyer on this but she is busted and you are looking like a fool.

  • Deborah (Discerning the World)

    jamadan

    >> If you can’t see how she was deliberately using that phrase in a cultural and literary manner to illustrate God’s OmniPresence, God’s OmniPresence, as well and to interject some humor, then I don’t need to read anything more from here.

    If you can’t see how she was deliberately fooling all of you and laughing at the same time, wondering how many would catch on, then please don’t read anything more from here.

  • Wally

    [deleted - really? This is an Islamic website?? What are you smoking!]

  • Jim Varnon

    Please ….KELLI…. First… Correction of God’s annointed is perfectly in order..

    second….. JOYCE MEYER IS …NOT…ANNOINTED !

  • iowagrandpa

    [deleted - if you feel you have wasted valuable time, then I will just delete your invaluable comment]

  • Carm

    A quote from ‘Masonry: Beyond the Light’ by William Schnoebelen (a former witch and Mason), p197 – referenced via Dr Cathy Burns ‘Masonic and Occult Symbols Illustrated’:

    “To ‘open’ the eye a little bit is to experience psychic powers. To open the eye completely is to have your brain flooded with the pure consciousness of Lucifer himself. This is why one of the Masonic symbols is the ‘All-Seeing Eye’. It is a symbol of Illumination.
    This is Satan’s counterfeit for being Born Again. In it, you acquire a ‘personal relationship’ with Lucifer. You begin to think his thoughts and see with his eyes. You begin to look at humans the way he does. It is not a pretty experience.”

    Aunty Joyce wants us to do what?!!!

  • Hanelie

    Carm, the word “illumination” now caught my eye. I’ve heard that the motto “Sol Iustitiae Illustra Nos” used by one of the Theology Faculties in SA. I’ve heard that it translates to “the sun of righteousness illuminate you”, but don’t whether this is so. According to the faculty it is a literal translation of Mal 4:2 (“… the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings …”). Interestingly, on their web site there is a difference between the Afr and Eng translations given – with (verlig – enlighten/illuminate) used in Afr and shine (closer to Mal 4:2) used in Eng.

    This has bothered me, because it seems ever so slightly deceiving, the way it is translated, especially if one considers the occultic meaning of “illumination”.

  • KELLI you are lost and deceived … there is no anointing in that women get away from her and seek God seek the true uncompromising gospel of Jesus

  • Gail Gird

    Can anyone explain to me the J in the Joyce Meyer emblem, three hidden sixes and we all know the meaning of that.
    Why would she want to have not one but three of them facing in different directions.
    Food for thought.

  • Deborah (Discerning the World)

    Gail

    I’ve look at that, and hmmmmm…. it could be and it couldn’t be. We don’t want to accuse the woman of something that isn’t there. But I would not be surprised.

  • Ken

    [deleted - you are right, I am deleting your comment]

  • Piglet

    Deborah is right, no where in the bible does it say, “ALL SEEING EYE”. This is an occult term.
    For Joyce Meyer to say something like this it would mean she is part and parcel of the move to the New World Order and One World Religion where the “G” Almighty God, All SEEING EYE will be watching over everyone.

  • christine

    I just want to ask you one question have you got your own church.

  • Robbie

    Good question Christine.

    Act 7:48,49 Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands; as saith the prophet, Heaven is my throne, and earth is my footstool: what house will ye build me? saith the Lord:

    Yes Christine. But it has no walls nor Pastors…

  • Deborah (Discerning the World)

    Christine

    Yip, it’s called the Body of Christ :) Sparsely separated individuals all around the world belong to God’s church, (Matthew 7:14) “Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.”

  • Spencer

    Deborah,

    You sound somewhat educated on this. What is your background and/or training in religious matters?

    Thanks,
    Spencer

  • Deborah (Discerning the World)

    Spencer

    I am born again, guided by the Holy Spirit who leads me into ALL truth, what’s your deal?

  • Spencer

    Deborah,

    Not sure what you mean by “what’s my deal” except that came across a bit critical. You sound knowledgable and educated in the scriptures past common knowledge of being self taught and was wondering what background and formal training, if any, you have had. I’m always interested in those who have strong understanding of the scriptures and how they got there. That’s all

    But your comment/reply (what’s my deal) appears to be critical of my simple question as if I have some alterior motive or agenda. I am a born-again Christian of faith, servant of our Father but I usually don’t respond with ‘what’s your deal’ when someone asks me about my faith.

  • Deborah (Discerning the World)

    Spencer

    It was not critical. If you want to read into it that way then that is what you are reading into it. Almost everyone who comes onto this website and questions me seems to have an ulterior motive, but me saying, ‘what’s your deal’ I simply mean, ‘why do you ask, what’s up with the question?’. I am sorry I used those words, I retract them if they offend you.

  • Spencer

    No problem but I do appreciate your response. I realize there is a need to point out when there is/are false teaching(s). I also certainly understand when someone might take you the wrong way along with scriptural foundation for what you are doing in pointing out false teachings.

    Please note that perhaps a little bit of that (responding with “what’s your deal”) has come from your own perspective, that everyone who posts without agreement or praise has an alterior motive and therefore must be questioned. I looked around your website and while I see a lot of fault and attention to false teachings, I really don’t see much, if any, praise or recognitions for those who offer sound and/or correct teachings. And Jesus, while he did find fault when necessary and then rebuked those (even his own disciples on one or more occasions), more often than not found forgiveness & mercy and used his (and God’s) saving Grace to change sinners. Not once did he start off a conversation with “what’s your deal”, even when those of the religious leadership questioned his own authority.

    I do think and believe based on my own Christian walk, we need balance – discernment with love, compassion and mercy, lest we become too cynical and/or one sided in our views.

    And perhaps I have missed that on your website – have you ever found anyone to praise or offer forgiveness or mercy for their actions or statements? I would welcome the opportunity to view that area of this site as well.

    God Bless You…

  • Deborah (Discerning the World)

    Spencer

    >> I looked around your website and while I see a lot of fault and attention to false teachings, I really don’t see much, if any, praise or recognitions for those who offer sound and/or correct teachings

    All recognition goes to the Bible, the Word of God – you don’t get any better teaching than that!

    >> I do think and believe based on my own Christian walk, we need balance – discernment with love, compassion and mercy, lest we become too cynical and/or one sided in our views.

    You accusing me of not discerning with love? You know it’s very annoying when I get these comments like yours for instance where you insinate that I am unloving or uncompassionate.

    >> And perhaps I have missed that on your website

    You have missed it because you want to miss it, because possibly there is something in your doctrine that is not correct and I have pointed it out on my website and this is why you are reacting this way.

    >> have you ever found anyone to praise or offer forgiveness or mercy for their actions or statements?

    Yes of course. If people repent and change their ways and change their DOCTRINE. I just mention only a few people among the gazillion preachers out there – I don’t have TIME to mention everyone. Your ‘accusations’ are crazy.

    Why are you here? Why are you commenting on this Joyce Meyer article? Come clean and tell me what it is you really disagree with. Lets speak about doctrine shall we, tell me where you think in your opinion I have faulted.

  • Spencer

    Deborah,

    You really don’t have an area to post a new question, so I simply picked the most recent post at that time, which was one about Joyce Meyer that I had reviewed, to post my question and follow up request.

    All I asked is since you have many blog/webpages about the false teachers, was to please point where you found someone with correct teachings and/or praise, so I can read that.

    I wasn’t finding fault with your doctrine. I’m just trying to have a conversation with you and see if what you have to say about those that you feel have correct or sound doctrine.

  • Redeemed

    Spencer, I think you miss the purpose of this website. The purpose is to point out false teachers and teachings for the protection of the flock. It is a calling that is much needed in the Church, exposing the deeds of darkness. Many people have been seriously harmed by false teaching.

    I don’t know of one single case of a false teacher that has humbled themselves and repented of their error and instead their followers come to their defense and the watchpeople are villianized and accused of slander.

    Exposing error requires a tough skin and a tender heart. I have seen that displayed in Deborah. If you walked a mile in her shoes I think you would understand. It is thankless work except for knowing that the Lord is being served and people are being snatched from the fire.

  • Deborah (Discerning the World)

    Spencer

    Ok, cool. Anyhow, here is the General Comments Section:

  • Osito

    Hi Spencer,

    I dont think this site is here to find out who loves who and who hates who, this site is for a open debate on what you believe the Bible say. If you think Deborah made any mistakes in her teachings i am sure you are more than welcome to open it up and that she will gladly discuss any of that with you.

    I’m starting to realise it now that the people on these false teachers side are always attacking the person and doesn’t go to the Bible, and every time they get scripture from Deborah or someone they dissappear.

  • Deborah (Discerning the World)

    Osito

    Right on :)

  • Andy

    Osito made a good point. Those that defend false teachers, NEVER defend them on the basis of Biblical doctrine. They can’t do that, since false teachers are outside of Biblical doctrine.

  • mary

    Gods people are destroyed for lack of knowledge, If you don’t believe Joyce Meyers READ YOUR BIBLE..

  • Deborah (Discerning the World)

    mary

    >> Gods people are destroyed for lack of knowledge, If you don’t believe Joyce Meyers READ YOUR BIBLE..

    That is the most confusing statement ever..

    Yes God’s people are destroyed for lack of knowledge, hence they follow people like JOYCE MEYER

    >> If you don’t believe Joyce Meyers READ YOUR BIBLE…

    ?? *scratches head*

  • JC - Lover of my Soul

    [delete - insults not welcome]

  • Robbie

    Mary
    That is exactly why we don’t believe Joyce, because we read our Bibles. We ARE sinners, We are NOT gods, not even little ones like Joyce proclaims… and you obviously agree (talking about lack of knowledge)

  • Michael

    That’s it…false christians will always defending people,Joyce Meyer,Cindy Jacobs,Angus Buchan and many others and what they say and write but NEVER the bible’s truth…most of them too are lazy and do not study it…want quick fixes and want to fit into the trends of the world. Man worships man, his flesh and kudos and is self-centred, proud and egotistical.

    Been around some time and I’ve always noticed WOF churches and its associated HATE CRITICISM and CORRECTION and defend it vehemently, instead of accepting it and checking the scriptures and seeking God with a sincere and repentant attitude…they love self improvement, kudos and accolades and are strivers of these which they call fruit.

    This is NOT the fruit of the bible but the WORLD and Satan…read the sermon on the mount.

    And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set, his disciples came unto him:

    2 and he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying,

    Lk. 6.20-23
    3 Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

    4 Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted. Is. 61.2

    5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth. Ps. 37.11

    6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled. Is. 55.1, 2

    7 Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.

    8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God. Ps. 24.4, 5

    9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.

    10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness’ sake: 1 Pet. 3.14 for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

    11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. 1 Pet. 4.14

    12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets 2 Chr. 36.16 · Acts 7.52 which were before you.

    13 Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savor, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men. Mk. 9.50 · Lk. 14.34, 35

    The Light of the World
    14 Ye are the light of the world. Joh. 8.12 ; 9.5 A city that is set on a hill cannot be hid.

    15 Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; Mk. 4.21 · Lk. 8.16 ; 11.33 and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.

    16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven. 1 Pet. 2.12

    Jesus’ Attitude toward the Law
    17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

    18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Lk. 16.17

    19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

    20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven

  • Michael

    PS A lot has been written about the sermon on the mount by the Lord Jesus Christ…He did this to set a question…how can it be possible… He continued to preach in parables…the reason was because of the intellect reasoning of the pharisees unleavened bread…man loved darkness more than light…nothing has changed since then and that is why God went to the extreme of taking over our sinful bodies. When I was converted I was just still trying to overcome for many years but was hopelessly entangled in man achievement, church control and alcoholism. Wanted to get out but could not because of man’s intervention and it was only in complete surrender and honesty that I was set free.

  • Carolyn

    Debs. Re your comment 48

    >> If you don’t believe Joyce Meyers READ YOUR BIBLE…

    ?? *scratches head*

    LOL…ya. read your Bible after you have had your brain washed by Kenneth Hagin, Kenneth Copeland and their counterpart Joyce Meyers!

  • Deborah (Discerning the World)

    Carolyn

    I said that? HAHA I must have been having a BAD day… sorry… I am now sure what I meant to say there.

  • Marlene

    As they say: “Birds of a feather, flock together”! When you listen to Joyce Mayer, you can hear Kenneth Copeland and Co.

  • Carolyn

    Debs…you were quoting Mary who told you, you would understand what Joyce was saying if you would read the Bible.

    And to clarify my comment, I was just saying that after you wash your brain clear of sound teaching by saturating yourself in the teachings of the two Kenneths, then you can start building the walls and forming the structure of WOF teaching that opposes and exalts itself against the knowledge of God. THEN you will read the Bible and believe what Joyce Meyers is saying.

  • You know, I have been watching Joyce Meyer’s Enjoying Everyday Life for a very long time. I find her teachings, her humour and even her real “Wrath of God” stuff to be very uplifting for me as are her books, of which I have several. This All Seeing Eye you are always referring to really makes me laugh – Joyce was just saying that God sees us all the time – He is the All Seeing Eye – just like my parents used to be able to “see” me when I thought they weren’t watching – and catch me out when I was doing something wrong. I think you guys have nothing better to do than to critisize a WOMEN preacher who actually makes sense in this senseless world we live in today. I have been a born again christian for a long long time, and I like Joyce Meyer’s practical approach and also her honesty regarding things that have happened in her past. Remember, let those among you who are without sin cast the first stone. And for goodness sake GROW UP!! God Bless from Lotus.

  • Wayne

    Marion wrote:

    The sound of her voice as she says “all-seeing” eye is MOST creepy!

    Absolutely!

  • John Chingford

    Hi Lotus Yamba

    You state that God IS the “all seeing eye“. Can you please show me in SCRIPTURE where it says that. As far as I understand it, God has NEVER been referred to as “the all seeing eye”. It may have referred to the all seeing eyeS of God. The clear difference is the SINGULAR eye which is used by the illuminati, masons etc.

    Again, does the Bible EVER mention even the all seeing eyeS of God? Of course God SEES EVERYTHING, but it NEVER describes Him as the “all seeing eye”. That is TOTALLY occultic. Why would Joyce Meyer use such a term? It cannot be found in the Bible! Where did she learn that term and why didn’t she (in the least) say “all seeing EYES of God?

    Well not surprising that she would use a non biblical quote because she does it ALL THE TIME

  • John Chingford

    To continue with my last comment:

    I have done a Bible study search on “God’s eyes” There are references to God’s eyes (plural) but NOTHING for God’s eye (singular).

    Here are some scripture verses backing this up:

    Proverbs 15:3 “The eyes of the Lord are in every place, beholding the evil and the good.”

    2 Chronicles 16:9 “For the eyes of the Lord run to and fro throughout the whole earth”

    Amos 9:8 “Behold, the eyes of the Lord God are upon the sinful kingdom”

    So when someone says “the ‘all seeing’ eye” it is DEFINITELY a reference to occultists description of Lucifer or said in ignorance – because they have heard it said by masons before. Why would they have heard it from masons? Is it because they have links? Why would a true born again believer (especially an minister of the gospel) have links with freemasonry?

    Well actually, if you look into the background history of “Word of Faith” heresy, you will find that its origins WERE in the occult. For more info and evidence on this please take a look at these articles:

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  • Rose

    I am a person who was born a chritian but did not know much about Jesus. It was during a very depressing moment of my life, I woke up early morning unable to sleep, switched on the TV and happened to hear this woman with a quirky voice preaching and praying. I had a sudden urge to pray with her and soon the TV program was over. I woke up the next day and listened to her teachings, now I have been doing this for the past 4 years. The Jesus she is proclaiming in her message is now my true friend and I have a personal relationship with Jesus. I wake up every morning wanting to pray, praise and thank him. I has changed my life & I cannot explain the joy it has brought into my life, I have been able to sort the troubles in my life by trusting in his love for me and this would never have been possible without preachers like Joyce Meyer, opening up their lives in front of millions, because that is the will of God for them. I have been able to sort my relationship issues, my personality problems everything with the help of my Lord. But he used Joyce to work this miracle in my life. Thank you Lord. May I request people never to judge others, so that you may not be judged too. We all have to stand before the Almighty Judge one day (as true as your breath), and we never know which side of God we are going to be, left-side or right-side. It would be too late, if it happens that the people we judged as ‘wolves’ are standing on the right-side of father, and we the self-righteous on the left-side. For Mathew 16:26 says, what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?

  • Leon Petersen

    Hi Lotus Yamba,

    Perhaps you are referring to the “living Everyday Life” series, which is largely anecdotal and general advice-giving stuff. Some of it is good advice, obedience to God, and so on. But there is no question that some of her teaching has no Biblical ground, especially the teaching on “Jesus’ suffering in Hell and being tortured by demons” for us. Also, how can she say that belief in this ‘fact” is essential for salvation? She is in error. Also, she has refused to “unteach” or retract what she has said in the past, when corrected on doctrinal issues.
    As for the “all-seeing-eye” comment….yes, taken on it’s own is open to interpretation, but in conjunction with heretical teaching, has to be at the very least, slight;y suspicious.

  • Deborah (Discerning the World)

    Rose

    >> I am a person who was born a chritian but did not know much about Jesus.

    This is impossible. You can’t be born a Christian. Born again, yes.

    With all due repesct Rose, Joyce Meyer does not teach the truth, yes she teaches some truth but most of it is lies. You might be very sincere and I pray you are, so much so that you seek alternate study material that is NOT Joyce Meyer.

  • Redeemed

    Rose, it is apparent that you do not understand the Gospel. The reason for saying that is that you say you were “born a Christian”. One has to be “born again” to be a Christian. If you are referring to a christening when you were a baby, this does not have any biblical basis. Babies cannot make a conscious decision and parents cannot do that for children.

    Certainly God may have used Joyce Meyer to help you, but instead of giving the teacher the credit, it is because of the Word of God. But you have also taken in lies as she mixes truth and error. You should be thankful for those who have taken the time to sort out the lies and given the alert. You make a big mistake to rely upon Joyce Meyer’s programs and her materials.

  • Truthful Conversation

    This is the sad thing about false teachers, they are so beguiling. They often teach alot of truth. I used to listen to Joyce Meyer when I was caught up with WOF thinking. I even bought a few of her books, but I must say that I found something about her ‘off’, even then when I knew no better. She seemed quite abrasive too. These people (like Joyce Meyer) set themselves up as ‘gurus’, and people swallow their every word, taking it for ‘gospel’ over the TRUE Word of God. Many people are deceived into buying all their books/DVD’s/CD’s etc, and this in itself distracts people from reading the Bible, which is what they want to happen. Eventually, people are brainwashed into loyalty towards that ‘teacher’ instead of loyalty to God. ANYONE who is proud enough to think they cannot be tricked by satan, should think again. In these end of church days, satan is pulling out all the stops to deceive believers. To not be deceived you have to know what the Bible says and you need to be close to the Lord, walking with a humble heart. Forget your own opinions. Ask the Lord DAILY to show you truth and keep you on the straight and narrow. It is a hard road, but a worthwhile one.

  • Irma

    I am quite new to this site, having commented a little before. I have read a few of the comments. Spencer and Debs [ if I may call you so], very often we cannot transfer our sound and attitude on paper, and others who read it, might hear it quite differently to what we intended. Spencer, one can give facts in a very honest and direct way, yet meaning it soft and earnestly, but on paper it can sound critical and abrupt – when I read your conversation – that is what I see happening.

  • Irma

    Rose, there are two sources of supernatural power: God [and the angels to the extent that God created abilities in them and allows them], and Satan and his demons. Satan comes as an angel of light and he is quite capable of giving you much joy. False teaching very often comes disguised with very good teaching, very necessary life principles and often with power, supernatural confirmations, ‘guidance’ from ‘God’. I prayed for many years almost every day asking God for discernment, and He had shown me so much, and constantly leads me to people who could add to it. If you are really serious about God, seeking Him more than the leaders that you love, ask Him earnestly to show you and teach you the truth. Just about all of these superstars WoF-leaders are wolves in sheep clothing. But many other leaders [such as Angus] are misled and truly believe what they have been taught, so are most of the charismatics – they are good people, believing they are in the truth and often really wants to help us. I believe you are also very sincere, but I think God is raching out to you by exposing you to the facts.

  • Laura Reid

    Aren wrote:

    Thank you for providing the link to the transcript. Aforesaid gave me the opportunity to read it and make the correct assumption for myself. Now let me state outright that have never listened to any of Joyce Meyer’s sermons, lectures, or whatever you may call them, neither have I read any of her books, nor am I a follower, but I do have friends whose wife’s adore her, but that is their prerogative. The reason why I’m stating aforesaid is so that no one can claim that I am not objective. The Lord however gave me enough common sense (and brains) to at least be able to distinguish between the truth and blatant nonsense. And in this case, I’m afraid that the criticism directed at her regarding the all seeing eye is unfounded and nonsense. If you read it in context, she is simply referring to God that sees everything that we do. We may think that we do things unnoticed by others (in the dark), but God sees everything, and there is enough scripture to support this view. So please, do not make the mistake like so many other, e.g. the Jehovah’s, that takes one verse (or several) out of context and then base their believes on that particular verse. The Bible must be read in context, not just one verse here and there. And the comment that lesbians likes her, really, coming from a Christian. And you have proof of this? This is nothing other than gossip and unbecoming of a Christian.

    Having said the above, please keep up the good work as I enjoy the articles tremendously. And accept the criticism in good spirit as it is not meant to offend in any way.

    In Jesus,

    Aren

    I agree with Aren. I left off years ago following these pied pipers and I stick to my Bible and the Holy Spirits guidance and to tried and true Christian men and women, most who have gone on to their eternal reward . . . Amen. In Jesus! To Whom I am forever grateful. Laura

  • simon

    Allan wrote:

    RE CHECKING OUT THE BIBLE AND THE ALL-SEEING GOD, ALLOW THE WORD ITSELF TO CORRECT THE CRITICISMS ABOVE.

    Also bear in mind that the scriptures were not originally written in English, so you can’t critique Joyce Meyer for saying He is the “All Seeing God”. It is the followers of Osirus that gave their god this name that was a deception and a lie. If Joyce had shown the Osirus eye symbol while she was talking about the All-Seeing God, then critics might have grounds for comment. As it is, the criticisms are unfounded. God clearly IS all-seeing as shown below….

    GOD SEES ALL
    Proverbs 15v3: “The eyes of the Lord are everywhere, keeping watch on the wicked and the good.”

    GOD SEES EVERYTHING
    Job 34v21-22: “His eyes are on the ways of mortals; he sees their every step. There is no deep shadow, no utter darkness, where evildoers can hide.

    GOD SEES US ALL
    Psalm 33v13: “From heaven the LORD looks down and sees all mankind.”

    If this doesn’t describe ‘all-seeing’ what does!!! Don’t get bogged down in semantics guys!

    And if your God can’t see everything, then He is not the true God at all!

    maybe Chronology would be a good place to start. The OT start with the Books of Moses, who lead Israel out of Egypt and was trained for the first part of his life in the Occult religions of Egypt. so in that purpose the verses you reference would be written after the establishment of the all seeing eye and that is only if you follow the it back to Egypt, when in fact it started before Noah and with the Sumarian Empire.

    2 Corinthians 11:14

    14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

    Matthew 6:22-23
    22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

    23 But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!

    24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

    Satan is the ruler of this world, the all seeing eye of knowledge. He is the angel of light and if your eye be single you will be full of that light, and that light is the evil of the devil so you are full of his darkness.

    When Christ speaks of the antichrist he references that his right eye is darkened out, another reason the all seeing eye represents satan. remember deception is a virtue in the occult, like truth is a virtue to christians and they like to slip in and show their allegiance to other luciferians, while deceiving the uniformed christians.

  • simon

    Leon Petersen wrote:

    Hi Lotus Yamba,

    As for the “all-seeing-eye” comment….yes, taken on it’s own is open to interpretation, but in conjunction with heretical teaching, has to be at the very least, slight;y suspicious.

    And if taken in context with two videos my wife showed me she was making occultist hand gestures representing here alignment with lucifer just prior to saying it twice. My wife liked her, thought she was a great motivational speaker, when I first heard her my wife was very upset because I said she acted demon possessed or influenced, her voice eyes an mannerisms. But then my wife started bringing to my attention much of her occultist and non biblical views.

  • Sarah

    I am SO glad that I am an EX christian. Just reading these comments, with people arguing over who is or isn’t “annointed,” each person thinking that THEY are the right ones, reminds me how ridiculous and unbelievable the entire bible and christian religion really are. So much delusion!!

  • Hi Sarah,

    What would you do if I offered you two dollar bills of which one was false and I told you so; which one are you going to take? Or if I gave you two bottles of medicine, one genuine and the other filled with 0,5% strychnine and I warned you about the poisoned one. Which one are you going to take?

  • John Chingford

    Sarah

    You say you are an ex Christian. Let me ask you; did you EVER have a close personal intimate relationship with Jesus as your personal Saviour? Did you ever acknowledge that you had a sinful nature that needed salvation and put your trust in Him for eternal forgiveness as the Son of God? Or were you simply brought up as a Christian with just some kind of head belief in God? Do you experientially know the difference between natural birth and the supernatural rebirth by the Holy Spirit living within you?

    If you are NOW so opposed to Christianity, why are you even reading this blog? What set of circumstances caused you to read this article? It appears that you have some type of resentment against Christianity. What happened to cause such resentment? Maybe we can help?

  • John Chingford

    Sarah, just following on from my last comment. If you state that you HAVE experienced those things, then the next logical question is “how can you say it is ridiculous and unbelievable”?

    However, if you have NOT experienced those things, how can you say “it is ridiculous and unbelievable”?

    The question is the same either way. On the one hand, you DO know it is true because of your experience – so your statement is invalid; on the other hand you are not an authority to make those claims because you have NOT “tasted and seen that the Lord is good” and IS REAL.

  • Sharon

    Joyce Myers is a “Silly Woman” and a heretic. Those women who follow her and all WOF false teachers are like the following (KJV) scriptures:

    2nd Timothy 3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
    2nd Timothy 3:2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
    2nd Timothy 3:3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
    2nd Timothy 3:4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
    2nd Timothy 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
    2nd Timothy 3:6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
    2nd Timothy 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

    While I am a woman, I am not a “silly woman.” I’ve never watched to completion Joyce Myers on TV here in America. She throws in a little bit of scripture to catch the attention of the “silly women and men”. She and her kids are worth millions of dollars. Those dollars came from the millions of “silly women and men” who listen to her and send in money & buy her heresy filled books.

    What part of “she’s a blaspheming heretic do these people not see?” They only see what they have been mesmerized into seeing. “Enjoying Everyday Life.” Isn’t that a pleasant sounding title? Silly Women feel tired, used and abused and plain worn out. So they flock to Joyce Myers conferences to get pumped up. But how long does it last? Once they’re read her heretical books, tried to put into practice her heretical suggestions then what? The “silly woman” ends up worse than before she went to the “conference.”

    Silly women do not have a faith that is grounded in the glorious truth of scripture. Silly women, like the prodical son, want to be entertained. What happens when the party is over? Silly women read her books, read watered down, filthy catholic versions of scripture so they believe Jesus went to hell. But not to worry, the “silly woman” actually believes she is a little god. There are going to be a lot of “Silly Women” in hell because they want to feel good all of the time. The true Christian life is not about feeling good. It is about an uncompromising faith. The true Christian life is not about always being happy. It is about a deeply grounded and rooted faith that is found in the Word of God.

    Hey “Deb-Ster” I have a great idea for you and I. We will start our own conferences. I’ll do one here in the USA and title it, “Follow the Savior I Know and You May Have to Die for Him”. You pick a title for your conferences in South Africa. I wonder how many women will show up and listen about what they may have to suffer to follow the King? Will it be Millions of People? Thousands? Hundreds? Tens? Maybe just you and I? Will these people who don’t come to our conference want our book? If they want mine, it will be a KJV.

    Joyce is a wolf in sheep’s designer, custom made clothing. All of her clothing is custom made for her. Her shoes even match the leather covering of her Bible quite often. The laborer is worthy of their hire is true. But heretics like her and all of the other WOF wolves have a reward coming that they will not forget for all of eternity. The really sad part is those “silly women and men” that followed her will be there next to her and it will be quite warm.

    I think I will write a book and call it, “Silly Women and the Blasphemy They Listen To” with a subtitle, How I wound Up in Hell. (sad, very sad)

  • Sharon

    http://www.texemarrs.com He is part preacher, part conspiracy nut, He is sort of like Alex Jones in “Christian Form.” That’s all I know and care to know about Texe

    [Edited: Texemarrs is far from Christian, I do not quite know what he is quite frankly. The things he believes in are way dodgy. I don't like to promote him.]

  • Sharon

    Sarah, who are you trying to convince that the Bible and the “Christian religion” aren’t true? If your statement is trying to convince us then you’re wasting your time. If you’re trying to convince yourself well then go right ahead.

    You say you are an “ex” Christian. I say you were never a Christian at all. You may have read a verse of scripture here and there. You may have even gone to church. Neither of those things will make you a Christian. I could sit in a garage all day for the next 100 years but I won’t become a car.

    The word Christian has many different meanings. While I was born into a Family of Christians that still did not make me a Christian. I had to realize that I was a sinner. I realized that my sin caused a separation between God and myself. I repented of my sin and received Jesus Christ by faith in His finished work on the cross. It was then I became a Christian.

    You have every right to believe or not believe. God will let you make that choice. God will say to Sarah, depart from me, you will spend an eternity in Hell because of YOUR decision. That is a very high price to pay for your misguided smugness.

    I pray that you will see how desperately you need Jesus Christ. Knowing Him is not about religion. It is about a personal relationship with the One that loves you in spite of your being an “ex.”

    Sarah wrote:

    I am SO glad that I am an EX christian. Just reading these comments, with people arguing over who is or isn’t “annointed,” each person thinking that THEY are the right ones, reminds me how ridiculous and unbelievable the entire bible and christian religion really are. So much delusion!!

  • Sharon

    As an American I know her statement about the “all seeing eye” is about the same on the back of our one dollar bill. That is NOT the eye of the God of the Bible. It is the false “god” of the Illumined Ones and the Freemasons. As far as Joyce’s “past.” We ALL have a past and if God has equipped us with the ability to be transparent and talk about our past to others to give them hope then fine.

    I find many times though it is as though they sensationalize their past and sound as though they miss it. Joyce’s practicality is heresy. Everything she say is contained mostly in the words, I, I, I, me, me, me. That is not the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

    She makes sense? Which part makes sense? Her humor? Her “Wrath of God stuff?” If she truly preached/taught on the Wrath of God stuff, she would either repent of her heresy or she would pop off another joke. The Wrath of God is nothing to toy with. These WOF false teachers are dangerous. Dangers because they are preaching a false gospel. A false gospel is easily accepted because it appeals to our flesh. You tell us here to “Grow Up” the thing is, we are grown up. This site is not about “throwing the first stone.” It is about exposing satan and his deceptive ways. You are not understanding this because while you mention that you own many of Joyce Meyers books you do not mention God’s Word. You have saturated your mind, your spirit and soul with the heresy she teaches. You mind is so saturated with this stuff that you do not understand that Deborah and others are exposing the soul damning false teachers. You bought into Joyces lies. Here is what you let her do to you:You let her creep into your life without testing her words with the scripture: 2Timothy 3:6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
    2Timothy 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
    You have bought many of her books, ever learning her heresy which is not truth.

    2nd Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
    2nd Peter 2:2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
    2Peter 2:3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
    False Prophets/preachers/teachers have made merchandise of the weak, they hawk their books, CD’s etc. You fell for it. She, according to the scriptures above is bringing “swift destruction” to herself. WOF folks covet one thing. The don’t covet truth. They don’t covet wholesome things. They don’t covet a closer, intimate life with Jesus Christ. They covet and get YOUR money and your mind.

    It would do you well to burn her books, CD’s, DVD’s of anything Joyce Meyers. Then get into the Word of God. If you would devote even just half the time to the Word that you did listening and reading the garbage of Joyce Myers, you too just might see that she is a Wolf in Designer Sheep’s clothing.

    May you find peace and truth.

    Lotus Yamba wrote:

    You know, I have been watching Joyce Meyer’s Enjoying Everyday Life for a very long time. I find her teachings, her humour and even her real “Wrath of God” stuff to be very uplifting for me as are her books, of which I have several. This All Seeing Eye you are always referring to really makes me laugh – Joyce was just saying that God sees us all the time – He is the All Seeing Eye – just like my parents used to be able to “see” me when I thought they weren’t watching – and catch me out when I was doing something wrong. I think you guys have nothing better to do than to critisize a WOMEN preacher who actually makes sense in this senseless world we live in today. I have been a born again christian for a long long time, and I like Joyce Meyer’s practical approach and also her honesty regarding things that have happened in her past. Remember, let those among you who are without sin cast the first stone. And for goodness sake GROW UP!! God Bless from Lotus.

  • Mercy Vasquez

    I personally liked Joyce Meyer very much I found her very inspirational but I cant go along with her beliefs as her take on the atonement. As much as I have enjoyed her at many times I wont be listening to her as Benny Hinn and the like. I won’t budge on core bible statues of scripture. I know that the faith movement have tremendous erroneous beliefs as the we are all little g Gods teaching. This belief I have been hearing with my own ears not something that may or may not be edited. I even hear Benny Hinn say that he wished he had a Holy Spirit machine gun in order to gun down all his critics. Enough said no matter how endeared we may have become with such teachers we need to be on the watch for heretical teachings and not blind ourselves based solely on the feel good moments we may have received from these individuals it’s not to others be true but to God and his holy word be true and know what your believing.

  • Aaron

    Sarah, there is no such thing as an “ex-Christian”. You were never a Christian. A Christian is one who believes in Jesus Christ as God and Savior, that Jesus died on the cross to pay for our sins, and then Jesus rose from the dead, and that Jesus is the only way to heaven (meaning that the Christian knows going away from Jesus is pointless and stupid).

    You cannot be saved by works (works would be church attendance, praying x number of times a day/week/month, etc)

  • Dan

    Sarah wrote:

    I am SO glad that I am an EX christian. Just reading these comments, with people arguing over who is or isn’t “annointed,” each person thinking that THEY are the right ones, reminds me how ridiculous and unbelievable the entire bible and christian religion really are. So much delusion!!

    Sarah, what you’ve experienced was Christendom. The very same religion that is working hard to build God’s kingdom on earth by uniting with Rome. Jesus stands separate from all of that. When He said: “I am THE way, THE truth and THE life….” He meant Him and NOT the so called Christian religion. And that is what this website and the people here, are all about. Just because you couldn’t find Jesus at the church, doesn’t mean He doesn’t exist. You should never have given up your search because remember, He wasn’t crucified by unbelievers, He was crucified by the religious leaders of His time. He didn’t come to condemn us to hell, He came to save us from it. If you’re having a hard believing this, feel free to ask your questions here. There’s a lot of loving, caring people here that will take the time to answer your questions and point you to the true Jesus Christ. I was once in your shoes, this has been my experience.

  • Anthony Simon

    Aren wrote:

    Thank you for providing the link to the transcript. Aforesaid gave me the opportunity to read it and make the correct assumption for myself. Now let me state outright that have never listened to any of Joyce Meyer’s sermons, lectures, or whatever you may call them, neither have I read any of her books, nor am I a follower, but I do have friends whose wife’s adore her, but that is their prerogative. The reason why I’m stating aforesaid is so that no one can claim that I am not objective. The Lord however gave me enough common sense (and brains) to at least be able to distinguish between the truth and blatant nonsense. And in this case, I’m afraid that the criticism directed at her regarding the all seeing eye is unfounded and nonsense. If you read it in context, she is simply referring to God that sees everything that we do. We may think that we do things unnoticed by others (in the dark), but God sees everything, and there is enough scripture to support this view. So please, do not make the mistake like so many other, e.g. the Jehovah’s, that takes one verse (or several) out of context and then base their believes on that particular verse. The Bible must be read in context, not just one verse here and there. And the comment that lesbians likes her, really, coming from a Christian. And you have proof of this? This is nothing other than gossip and unbecoming of a Christian.

    Having said the above, please keep up the good work as I enjoy the articles tremendously. And accept the criticism in good spirit as it is not meant to offend in any way.

    In Jesus,

    Aren

    Hi Aren,

    I read your comment and see your point. My question is what god is she referring to?? My wife and I have watched and recorded many of her programs back in 2008-2009 until she stated during one of crusades that if she didn’t come on stage or T.V. and (tell you people what to do Having said the above, please keep up the good work as I enjoy the articles tremendously. And accept the criticism in good spirit as it is not meant to offend in any way.

    Keep Looking Up! Jesus Is Coming Soon!

    Anthony

  • Anthony Simon

    Sorry for the repost my first post got cut off accidently I wanted to finish what I was getting at and shorten it too.

    Anthony

    [Edited: No problem, I fixed your comment as well]

  • Julie

    God sees everything. God sees all. C’mon now. Let’s pick on Joyce because we are jealous of her, her success and maybe, just maybe a little bit cause she is a WOMAN. Shame on you all for bad mouthing her. Joyce, keep it up girl! Our Almighty knows who the wolves in sheep clothing really are!!!!

  • Julianna

    Shame on you all!! Joyce I am behind you 100%. There are wolves wearing sheeps clothing here on this website.

  • Julianna

    You are welcome to follow Joyce Meyer instead of Jesus Christ. Are you prepared to bear the consequences? You seem to love it when she says that Jesus was tortured in hell and that he was the first born-again Man, that He became sin on the cross and stopped being the son of God, and that our sins are atoned for in hell and not on the cross.

    Are you saved?

  • Julie,

    What kind of success are you talking about – financial success? Like Juliana, you seem to love it and it tickles your ears when you hear Joyce Meyer saying that Jesus was tortured in hell and that he was the first born-again Man, that He became sin on the cross and stopped being the son of God, and that our sins are atoned for in hell and not on the cross. That’s not the Gospel. If you believe her lies you are probably not saved. Repent of your evil and be saved before it’s too late.

  • Gideon

    @Julianna
    “Shame on you all!! Joyce I am behind you 100%. There are wolves wearing sheeps clothing here on this website”.

    Behind Joice 100% for what? Did you read the article and all the comments properly?

    Lurking in the back round on this site, it is clear that a lot of people comment before they have read or put any thought into their comment.

    To Deborah, Thomas and all the others who help to contribute: You guys are special indeed. I would have given up long ago.

    How do you all manage to have to say the same thing over and over, like hitting your head against a brick wall. Then to have to start all over again because someone hits with a stupid one liner like the example above, all because they are too lazy to read all the arguments or refuse to see the woods for the trees?

  • Deborah (Discerning the World)

    Gideon

    >> How do you all manage to have to say the same thing over and over, like hitting your head against a brick wall.

    It’s a gift of patience :)

  • louis matthys ackermann

    Very good expose of Meyer’s heresy.

  • Tracey

    To those who say Joyce meant “God’s eyes” when she says “All seeing eye”..you are deceived. But you are deceived because you have no knowledge of where the term comes from. I started a deep study of the New World order a number of years back. This term belongs to lucifer. Wake up before it is too late. Just recently I started wondering if they had also infiltrated the Church and I am heartbroken to say “yes”. I feel like I am in mourning. .Cognitive Dissonance all over again? Probably..I went through this when I first started studying on the NWO. The truth set me free but it has hurt quite a bit. .just being honest..thank you for having this site up..it has been refreshing to me..

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