London Olympic Games 2012 – Secret Logo, Illuminati Floodlights and Esoteric Mascots

Almost four years after the London 2012 Olympic Games Logo was launched to the public, Iran has threatened to boycott the Games and have made a formal compaint to the International Olympic Committee to have design changed.  They believe it is a pro-Israeli conspiracy as the logo when reshuffled spells ‘Zion’.  As there is an auspicious little dot in the middle of 20.12 that represents the dot on the i in ‘Zion’.

Little does Iran know that it’s not pro-Israeli but (pro-Illuminati Zionist) – two completely different things.

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The Pyramid Shaped Floodlights

The design of the Olympic stadium is illuminated (pardon the pun) with pyramid shaped floodlights.  The pyramid is the main symbol for the Illuminate.  But to make it worse, they are not just pyramids, they include the pyramid with CAPSTONE and outline of an all-seeing eye is visible within the overall bulb pattern within the capston.  See video:  (please note I don’t endorse the song)

The Meaning of The Pyramid Capstone

The Egyptians did not crown “The Great Pyramid” with a capstone. The pyramid has been left unfinished for thousands of years. The back of every U.S. one dollar bill has an “incomplete” pyramid on it with the capstone floating and “unattached” above it.

The pyramid base represents mankind as incomplete and wanting.  The capstone represents the enlightened few, the Illuminati, who reign in power over the world and the masses. According to Biblical scripture, Satan is the god of this sinful world (2nd Corinthians 4:4), and deceeptively appears as an angel of light (2nd Corinthians 11:13,14).  The Bible teaches that Satan was previously, Lucifer (light bearer), one of the archangels in Heaven.  Lucifer rebelled against God, demanding equality and was cast down to the earth.

Satan is said to be a master deceiver and liar, and always appears in a deceptive form. Many of today’s top U.S. politicians are occult members, attending Satanic ceremonies annually at the Bohemian Grove in California. The occult is rich in symbols. The general public is generally unaware of the symbolism in corporate logos and monuments that blatantly mock the woeful ignorance of society at large.

When the capstone is attached to the pyramid and “illuminated” at the 2012 London Olympics, it will be a crowning celebration of the New World Order one-world-government victory. It is a celebration of the completion of Luciferic ascension.

“This present window of opportunity, during which a truly peaceful and interdependent world order might be built, will not be open for too long – We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order.”    – David Rockefeller speaking at the UN, Sept. 14, 1994

The Great Pyramid of Giza represents the great New World Order: A One World Government, One World Religion and One World Economy, which awaits its ultimate leader and world King.  The New World Order has been in the planning stages for thousands of years. The Great Pyramid awaits its completion when the capstone is set in place during the 2012 London Olympics. Light enters the body through the eye and the all-seeing eye represents Lucifer. —www.helpfreetheearth.com/news453_olympics.html

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Wenlock and Mandeville

Then we have the two most bizarre looking mascots ever, both with ONE eye.  Wenlock and Mandeville they are called.  They were designed specifically for their appeal to children (what a joke) and supposedly with the digital age in mind.  Apparently these 2 characters have caused much controversy and confusion since their launch.  Well they would cause controversy because their design is acually based on an OCCULT SYMBOL called a hieroglyphic ‘Monad’

The Monas Hieroglyphica (or Hieroglyphic Monad) is an esoteric symbol originally proposed by a Athanasius Kircher and expanded upon by John Dee, an Elizabethan Magus and Court Astrologer of Queen Elizabeth I of England.  This 16th century mystical symbol is the emblem for Azoth or the Philosopher’s Stone – the aim of alchemy.

Summary of the Monad:  “The Sun and the Moon of this Monad desire that the Elements in which the tenth proportion will flower, shall be separated, and this is done by the application of Fire.” 

 

Wenlock is male and has a little W at the top of his head and Mandeville is female with an M at the top of her head.  Now you ask, what are the letters W and M got to do with anything?  Well again the occult comes into action.

The Esoterics of the Letters M and W:

In the occult as the Sun is Male and Luna (Earth) is Female, and as Sun “sends forth seeds” and impregnates the Earth, which then grows the ‘myriads of thoughts’ from these “seeds of the Sun”.  Because of this occultists infer that M is the Male and W is the Woman.

M and W also have numbers associated with them and it’s gets very complicated, and I wont go into it, but let me tell you, it’s not good.

There seems to be occult imagery all over London, rainbows, and black and white freemasony squares that Menlock and Mandeville make the children in London walk over in the streets.  Also the characters making kids do salutes that look very similar to a Hitler type hand salute.

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– I have no idea what is going to go down during these London 2012 Olympic Games, but what ever it is, it’s going to be very very evil.

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Deborah Ellish is the author of the above article. Discerning the World is an internet Christian Ministry based in Johannesburg South Africa. Tom Lessing and Deborah Ellish both own Discerning the World. For more information see the About this Website page below the comments section.

126 Responses

  1. charles allan says:

    I know the book is apocrypha but it is interesting history. In the book of maccabees
    Judas Maccabeus wins all the battles with the Jews who started to follow the greek customs
    of olympic sports. Sports are just body worship which is meaningless for salvation – the
    olympics are full of wordly abominations. ‘I make no provision for the body’ Paul.
    There is also immodest dress and weird symbols. It is earthly and fleshly and Christians should avoid all of it.

  2. Martin Horan says:

    What a load of tosh to claim that the Zionists are fanatics or members of the illuminati.
    I am a Christian Zionist because Israel are prophecied in the Bible to be back in their land. I know many other Christians who are Zionists and would treat the idea of being Illuminati associates with the contempt it deserves. It was also prophesied in the the Bible that Israel would face the ancient hatred which they presently do–as they are daily bombarded by “Palestinian” rockets.
    This bilge is nothing but anti-Semitism pretending it is not anti-Semitism. At least Hitler did not beat about the bush regarding his hatred of the Jewish people. He was more open and honest than the cowards who make up this stuff to appear they are doing the world a favour.
    We only have to look at the Western media who–if there is an Illuminati–are controlled by them. The media is blatantly anti-Jewish and pro-Arab. So are our Western governments. They are as much so as the Arab, Russian and Chinese ones. I know people who aren’t even Christians or Jews who see that and are utterly disgusted by it.
    To read Zion into the Olympic Logo is paranoia and/or plain anti-Semitic drivel. It’s neither logical not biblical.
    Little Israel is constantly attacked by the Arabs who outnumber them by incredible odds. God tells us in Ezekiel (the valley of the dry bones) that he will raise Israel up to be a great army.
    Hello! This little nation are a match for ANY of this present fallen world’s great armies. As Dave Hunt so rightly says, “A thousand Hitlers will not be able to drive them out of their land.” We have seen the Illuminati-controlled world’s leaders try to make Israel give up more and more land for peace. And where has it got that little nation? Suffering more violence is where it has got(ten) them! Replacement “Theology” (heresy) is not only unbiblical it is anti-biblical.
    Dr Stanley Monteith’s book “Brotherhood of Darkness” exposes this nonsense about Jewish financers and bankers. Anyone who is a Christian needs to read it because we are going to be answerable to God for the things we believe. Other Christian writers like Dave Hunt, Mark Hitchcock, Bill Salus–to name but three–have also exposed this tripe.
    As to the “Protocols of the Elders of Zion”: former Jesuits themselves–Diego Riviera for one–have maintained that it was a Jesuit fraud perpetrated by the Jesuits to bring about further hatred of the Jews.
    Even secular historians have dismissed that book as bunkum for the blatantly obvious reasons.
    How could Jews (a small minority and most of whom–at the time that scurrilous book was written–were living in poverty and had absolutely no influence in the world) plan such a thing? The very idea is utterly absurd. “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion” are as diabolical and as wicked as they try to portray Jewish people to be.
    In fact, the Jesuits have acheived much through persecution of the Jews via their demonic scheme of creating this monsterous fraud. What good has ever come out of it for the Jews? None!
    If one thing the Bible teaches us it is that Satan has an ongoing hatred for the Jews. The Bible tells us that God will eventually bring the whole world against Israel when He Personally will intervene to save them.
    See how often Israel is mentioned in the Bible–even more times than Jesus Christ Himself is! The Messiah had to come from them. People who make up this kind of nonsense–especially ones like Texe Marrs who claim to be Christian–had better bear in mind the words of Genesis 12:2-3. If they think the New Testament dispells those Scriptures they had better remember Romans 11.
    We have Replacement “theologians” who deny Israel’s right to exist. They will not condemn Molsem atrociets against unarmed Israeli citizens. Yet where are the Jews prosperous and defeating their enemies for the first time in their history since the diaspora? Why, Israel of course, where God said they would be and where they would be defeating their enemies.
    Let us remember that these people who deny them their land are Preterists. They are condemned in II Peter 3:4. The people castigated in that Scripture are not pagans, Moslems or atheists because those groups have never heard of the “fathers” nor have heard of Christ’s second coming. That means they are false Christians. And Churchianity is full of such people–especially among ecumenists.
    We know from the Bible that there is going to be a One-World politico-religio system. It is anti-Christ and it is ecumenical. If you want to know who is Illuminati-backed, there is your answer–the ecumenists! They are all in Rome’s pocket. Check Revelation 17 and 18. It will hate Israel as this world does right now and is preparing for it; as are these Replacement “theologians”! Israel, though she will be duped by anti-Christ, will not be a part of this one world system [Numbers 23:9]. This is in spite of the fact that God made it plain from ancient times that Israel would NEVER cease to be a nation in before Him [Jeremiah 31:36]. So these ecumenists are entirely without excuse.
    The Russian Communist poet Yevgeny Yevtushenko mocked the viciousness and mendacity of anti-Semitism in his poem “Babiy Yar”. Shame on people who call themselves Christians who fall for such nonsense when an atheist Communist didn’t buy it!
    Satan is the accuser. We had better be careful when we hear his accusations. God will hold us accountable. We are to prove all things [1 Thess 5:21] and test the spirits [1 John 4:1] and therefore not give credence to satanic lies and rumours. We ought to be reproving the unrighteous works of darkness [Ephesians 5:11].
    God tells us through His Word that all Israel will be saved [Rom 11:26]. I have never read such a promise regarding any other nation or race in the Bible. Neither has anyone else.

  3. Deborah (Discerning the World) says:

    Martin

    You are not a Christian Zionist, you are just a Christian. All Christian automatically support Israel. But I don’t see why you need to now call yourself by another name.

    Zionism, is simply a political movement and today is more of an ideology than anything else. Zionism is in effect an international movement for the return of the Jewish people to Zion, the land of Israel. A better explanation: “Zionism is a form of nationalism of Jews and Jewish culture that supports a Jewish nation state in territory defined as the Land of Israel. Zionism supports Jews upholding their Jewish identity and opposes the assimilation of Jews into other societies and has advocated the return of Jews to Israel as a means for Jews to be liberated from anti-Semitic discrimination, exclusion, and persecution that has occurred in other societies. Since the establishment of the State of Israel, the Zionist movement continues primarily to advocate on behalf of the Jewish state and address threats to its continued existence and security.” — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism

    Zionists are people who are involved in the above political movement.

    I do not believe it is biblical for Christians to be involved in a political movement, or follow a political ideology. Hence you are a Christian that prays for Israel and you help Jews, but you are not a Christian Zionist

    The British Royal Family believe they are descendants of Kind David, which is a lie out of the pit of hell. They claim Zion for themselves, hense the logo Martin IS spelt ZION when reshuffled. It’s not paranoia. You clearly have not been WATCHING what has been going on over the last few years.

  4. Robbie says:

    …af is die masker! :-)
    I still think these games are going to be the hottest Olympic event ever.

  5. Deborah (Discerning the World) says:

    Robbie

    >> I still think these games are going to be the hottest Olympic event ever.

    lol

  6. Myfanwy Brown says:

    Debs, I have been watching some videos online,re; the Olympics. I do not want to post them as they are not done by Christians, but they are very interesting, and it all fits together. Please pray for London, and for all of us here in the UK, I think something evil is coming too. What I saw and heard agrees with the British/Israel link you have on here.

  7. Myfanwy Brown says:

    Debs, found this too..http://www.fco.gov.uk/en/global-issues/london-2012/olympic-firsts/

    note points 3 and 4. Do you see, Mandeville?

  8. Paul (Continue in His Word) says:

    The Olympics are all about sex and alcohol. I pity the the poor souls of these young and promising men and women athletes (some innocents) who are going to be drawn into these orgies and destroyed.
    Read for yourself : [link removed] (Debs, if you find the content inappropriate for this blog, please remove the link. Its a newspaper article that exposes the REAL games that get played in the Olympic village behind the cameras)
    Please, brothers and sisters, let’s not watch this filth, as watching them would be like encouraging these behaviors.

    1Tim 5:22 Lay hands suddenly on no man, neither be partaker of other men’s sins: keep thyself pure.
    2Jn 1:11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

  9. Dave Hunter says:

    The Illuminati and other talk about esoteric societies working behind the scenes to take over the world serve only as a decoy to divert people’s attention from what’s actually happening in the world of religion. Anyone who believes stuff about the Illuminati must also believe the other part of the story…fantastic stuff about a reptilian dynasty and excuse the joke, the call of Chtuhlu. Guys honestly, either we believe what the bible says or we let people to fabricate theories for us and in the process lead us astray.

    The good thing that happened this far is that few people have taken the conspiracy theorists seriously. Fine part of what’s been said might be true but then instead of white-washing the enemies of humanity expose their real identity. These people are satanists. Period.

    So in short, it’s a satanic plot to take over the world and the only people presented as running the show are those who call themselves the Illuminati but can they by themselves take over the world? Unlikely. Why then are the others who are involved in this plot operating in dark?

    It’s because the main assault against the world is expected to come from those quarters. From places no one would ever suspect could mislead people. Need I say more?

    The command in the bible is:”Let him who has ears here…”

    Ask no questions. Trust no one but the Lord and you’ll be safe.

  10. Cynthia says:

    “and this is done by the application of Fire.” hmmm does this reveal anything about possible events at the Olympics- perhaps caused or dealing with fire?

  11. Deborah (Discerning the World) says:

    Dave Hunter

    Jesus told us to WATCH AND PRAY during these end times.

    The illuminait and other occult organisations are not conspiracy theries.

    >> Anyone who believes stuff about the Illuminati must also believe the other part of the story…fantastic stuff about a reptilian dynasty and excuse the joke, the call of Chtuhlu.

    Nonsense. I do not believe in reptilians and occult lies. But I do believe that there are people who believe in these lies.

    Call it what you want, Illuminati, Evil men with a dark plot, Satan’s minions, who cares. The fact is we know that Satan has been working a plan using mankind since the beginning to time to bring the world to the last days (of which we are in NOW) so that the antiChrist can be revield.

    We know that when the antiChrist is revealed the WHOLE WORLD will follow him (not just occultists) but everyone who has not accepted Jesus Christ as their saviour, Hindus, Muslims, Buddhists, even the Jews will follow him. All googlie eyed.

    Here in South Africa, whenever Nelson Mandela has a birthday it seems to last for an entire year a people go off their noggin and sing songs and praise the man as though he is a god. They view him as a saviour. They do do good works for 67 minutes, hug each other, love each other, and carry on like a bunch of mad people. Mandela is a type of anti-Christ but on a small scale. Now I look at this and I imagine the whole world acting like this over the REAL anti-Christ except this time his power is truly and utterly satanic and people will kill for him.

  12. John Chingford says:

    There are so many different thoughts about who the antichrist is likely to be. Many of these come from iulluminati conspiracy theories. The fact is (without getting into a debate about pretrib) the ac cannot be revealed until after the rapture takes place.

    There may possibly be a link between the last time London held the games in 1948 (Israel also became a Nation, Latter Rain replacementism apostasy started) and the rapture. Israel has now been a Nation for a whole generation.

    Personally, I do not sense (scripturally) that London is a centre stage for Biblical prophecy being fulfilled. Our eyes should be on Israel, the Middle East, Russia and Rome or the EU HQ Brussels. Possibly these will take the opportunity insidiously in the background whilst the whole world focuses on London.

    I get concerned when we get so caught up in different conspiracy talks. The same thing happened in 1999 with Y2K. People seem to leave their biblical glasses behind in all the emotional brain dead excitement. Granted that there seem to be illuminati involvement, but what is new with that? These things have been happening for Centuries. If anyone can show me from scriptures that these events in Stratford are included in the end times prophecies I might take more interest.

    Whatever happens God is in control and Jesus reigns and His acts are always coupled with great mercy. I personally have no sense of any impending disaster in London – at least not anything massive. Just in case, stay well clear of Stratford during the Games.

    There is a fine line between seeking truth and dabbling into gnosticism. Gnosticism is about seeking truth through mysticism, mystery’s, hidden knowledge basically becoming like Eve who saw that the fruit of the tree of knowledge (of good and evil) was desirous to make one wise. I sometimes think that when we do these things we are almost touching on areas we should leave well alone because it can open up avenues or portholes for the enemy to cause us needless fear.

    The scriptures teach us that we should not get caught up in hidden knowledge besides “Greater is He that is in me than he that is in the world”. At the end of it all, GOD REIGNS.

    The occultic multitudes (of our day) can do NOTHING and cannot succeed because GOD is on the throne. Psalms 2:1-5 says “Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the Lord, and against his anointed, saying, Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us. He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision. Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.”

    Regarding hidden knowledge. The following is why we should not get caught up in it:

    “”The secret things belong to the LORD our God, but the things revealed belong to us and to our sons forever, that we may observe all the words of this law” Deut 29:29 NASB

    “For this commandment which I command thee this day, it is not hidden from thee, neither is it far off.” Deut 30:11 KJV

    “To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them”
    Isaiah 8:20 KJV

    Isa. 45:19
    “I have not spoken in secret, in a dark place of the earth …..”

    Isa 48:16
    ”Come near to Me, hear this: I have not spoken in secret from the beginning”

    So THEREFORE, we are NOT to look for hidden mysteries but focus on learning direct from the REVEALED Word of God, through the revealed WORDS.

    Here is an interesting article on this subject from “Let Us Reason” ministries
    http://www.letusreason.org/current24.htm

    There is sufficient there to show us that we need to focus on the CLEAR teachings of the Bible ALONE instead of trying to unravel codes, symbolism, secrets, mysteries etc.

  13. Deborah (Discerning the World) says:

    John

    I understand, but I am not getting involved in Gnosticism by speaking about these things, my goodness. I am just pointing out some facts re the Olympic Games.

    And no where did I say the anti-Christ was going to be revealed during the Olympic games. And this is so not like Y2K. I don’t see people running around like headless chickens because of these Olympic games like they did Y2K.

    No genuine Christian is taking their eyes of the Word of God, only those apostasising are running around unraveling bible codes and looking for aliens like Chuck Missler.

    Jesus told us to watch and pray, WATCH (but do not delve into false teaching and lies) of everything that is going on around you and PRAY!

    >> Just in case, stay well clear of Stratford during the Games.

    I will do just that, thanks :) thousands of miles away LOL

  14. John Chingford says:

    Deborah

    My comments were not directed to you. I read all the comments and have been observing what many “christian” conspiracy theorists are teaching. I was simply pulling everything together for the benefit of any of your readers or “one off” visitors who needs to be aware of the things I wrote, i.e those who ARE getting caught up in the “secret” stuff.

  15. Deborah (Discerning the World) says:

    John

    Okie Dokie, sooorrryyyyy :)

  16. Burning Lamp says:

    I think that one of the reasons so many Christians are getting sidetracked into the “secret” things is because they have their eschatology confused. This wouldn’t account for Missler as I understand he is pretrib, but even by embracing it he is causing those who seek truth to back off from it and assusme it is false because he and others who are in question hold to it.

    I am looking for my Lord, and am not interested in the least in speculations as to who the AC is going to be. Idle curiosity. Of course the topic comes up in the study of Biblel prophecy, but we see through a glass darkly now and the hidden things are only for the Lord to know. He has given us instruction on how to live our lives, reach the lost and stand for truth. And those who hold to a pretrib rapture believe that the days are short and the Lord will be coming for us soon and we just need to redeem the time. We are not concerned with world affairs and living through the Great Tribulation.

    Many Christians are living in fear and are stockpiling ammo, food and gold. Many are heading for the hills, thinking they must seek out areas of safety away from highly populated areas. They are placing their trust in their own efforts and thinking only of themselves. This is the opposite of what the Bible teaches.

    Many believers are in confusion period, frozen in their tracks like a deer in the headlights. False teaching abounds and so few are on the right track to expose it. These are indeed perilous times. The Olympics has always been steeped in humanism and occult overtones, but now it is even more blatant. In a way that is good so more people can see the world for what it is. Many things that were formerly hidden are now coming forth with more boldness. That is a sign that we are nearing the end of the Church Age. We need to be ever vigilant and guard our hearts and minds and focus on God’s Word and the Blessed Hope and reaching out to others with the Gospel. The consequences of a self-centered Christianity is eternal, not temporal. We will give account before the Bema Seat for how we lived our lives. Tears will be shed. Look out to others and care about their eternal destiny and look up to worship our Lord and seek to please Him and only Him in our lives. That is a challenge in today’s world, but it is the only way to peace and joy. Fear is a tool of Satan, healthy concern is a fruit of the Holy Spirit.

    Grace and peace to all.

  17. Burning Lamp says:

    I wanted to add that we cannot bury our heads in the sand and being informed about what is going on in the world is important. I didn’t mean that we shouldn’t arm ourselves with information and be aware because we should, but just to be careful not to become overly concerned or obsessed. Just wanted to make that clear.

  18. Deborah (Discerning the World) says:

    BL

    Right on Sis!

  19. Hanelie says:

    Burning Lamp wrote:

    I wanted to add that we cannot bury our heads in the sand and being informed about what is going on in the world is important. I didn’t mean that we shouldn’t arm ourselves with information and be aware because we should, but just to be careful not to become overly concerned or obsessed. Just wanted to make that clear.

    Yes, yes, yes. It’s fine line, but an important one. You make many important points in your earlier post too, but one really touched me: those of us that know have a responsibility. My Christianity is not just between me and God (the self centered version taught in so many places). So much (if not all) of what many of us have been taught (in so many traditional churches) is not Christianity at all!

  20. charles allan says:

    Olympic games is pagan body worship : see maccabees
    Onias III. By promising the king a large sum of money, and by offering to become the promoter among the Jews of his policy of hellenizing the non-Greek population of his domains, he obtained the deposition of his brother and his own appointment to the high-priesthood (174 B.C.).
    As soon as he was installed he began the work of hellenizing and carried it on with considerable success. A gymnasium was built below the Acra (citadel), in close proximity to the temple, where the youths of Jerusalem were taught Greek sports. Even priests became addicted to the games and neglected the altar for the gymnasium. Many, ashamed of what a true Jew gloried in, had the marks of circumcision removed to avoid being recognized as Jews in the baths or the gymnasium. Jason himself went so far as to send money for the games celebrated at Tyre in honour of Hercules (1 Maccabees 1:11-16; 2 Maccabees 4:7-20).

  21. Burning Lamp says:

    Hanelie, thank you for the kind words. I am glad you have found DTW and are interacting here. Thanks for bringing out that we are our brother’s keeper in the sense that we are to care about others and not just about self-preservation. We should look at each person and see them as a precious soul who will spend eternity in either a lost or a saved condition. This life is but a vapor and soon it will be over one way or another. None of us is guaranteed tomorrow. The Bible says that today is the day of salvation.

  22. cyprus guy says:

    Dear humans i am 14 years old and im from cyprus.This summer my family decided to come for holidays in england .Anw i just want to say that whatever happens if it does (probabbly wont)we should not say that this is the end ….it is obviously another way for the film industries to get money(such as 11.11.11,2012,illminati.etc)So if you think of it without fear you can see that even if we are killed by some so-called satan minions after thay kill us they will not live after all we are all mortals so they will die living with their sins so please every human make the world a better place and STFU

  23. Deborah (Discerning the World) says:

    Dear Cyprus guy

    No one has said it is the end :) It is just the beginning of what is to come.

    >> please every human make the world a better place

    This is impossible because the bible says that every man is sinful, and the god of this word is Satan, so there is no ways this earth will become a better place. It’s is getting worse and worse by the minute. You need to be born again to escape the coming tribulation, are you saved Cyprus guy?

  24. Deborah (Discerning the World) says:

    Dear Cyprus guy

    No one has said it is the end :) It is just the beginning of what is to come.

    >> please every human make the world a better place

    This is impossible because the bible says that every man is sinful, and the god of this word is Satan, so there is no ways this earth will become a better place. It’s is getting worse and worse by the minute. You need to be born again to escape the coming tribulation, are you saved Cyprus guy?

    [Edited by DTW – “and the god of this word is Satan” should be “and the god of this WORLD is Satan’

  25. Myfanwy Brown says:

    Hi Debs,

    I agree with John and BL about not getting over interested in hidden things. I have to watch myself as I have a naturally curious mind, don’t get me wrong, I am FULLY aware of how satan tries to lure us into occultism through interest in conspiracies and secretive knowledge. The Bible verses John quotes are very appropriate.

    However, having said all that, I do not think we should bury our heads in the sand! I am aware of quite a few things about the Olympics, but all I can do is pray. I do believe that these Olympics will be used by the enemy to accomplish something, altho’ I do not know what will happen. The government has only just ‘discovered’ that the security company they were using, has not managed to train enough people, and so they are now engaging many British troops plus German and American troops to ‘guard’ the Olympics. In fact London is being guarded by a war ship in the Thames, un-manned drones in the sky and missiles on top of a block of flats. Also some siren to use for crowd control, which gives you terrible head pain. An undercover news guy also has discovered many strange things going on with the security, as well as thousands of ‘coffins’, enough to fit four people. It all seems rather bizarre and OTT!!

    I believe the Beiijing games closing ceremony ended with a ‘spaceship’ dropping into the arena? It seems to me that the governments are ‘experimenting with the public to see their reactions, and judge our behaviour for the future.

  26. cyprus guy says:

    just 3 questions: 1)do you all believe in the true god or the SATAN?
    2)are the cristians enemies or allies of the illuminati
    3)arent you aware that since the begining of time america has been controlling the most if not all of the world?
    i am afraid to believe all of this is true but it all happens to match
    Anw i read once an article wich said that illuminati killed many people who tried to tell the world not to obey them(michael jackson,princes diana etc)

  27. Deborah (Discerning the World) says:

    Cyprus guy

    1) I am a born again Christain, and believe in Jesus Christ the only begotten Son of the One and Only LIVING GOD of the BIBLE. NOT Satan.

    Exod 3:15; “And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, The LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations.”

    John 3:16; And Jesus said, “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”

    Matt 22:32; And Jesus said, “I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.”

    2) Christians are AGAINST Satanists – surely you should know this?
    3) a) Are you not aware that since the beginning of time Satan has been controlling the world, and b) America has not been around since the beginning of time, but SIN has been around since the beginning of time and evil people have been around since the beginning of time, Nimrod, the Egyptians who enslaved the Israelites, the Babylonians who worshipped other gods, etc etc, and evil people in America and Europe and Russia and China…etc.

    4) Now the big question is which god do you follow? Because if you are not a genuine Christian and follow God you unfortunately follow the god of this world Satan.

    I’ll quote that verse again…

    John 3:16; And Jesus said, “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”

    If you don’t believe in Jesus, you are going to perish.

    Jas 4:4; “Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.”

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  28. John Chingford says:

    Hi Cyprus Guy

    Deborah is completely correct in what she wrote.

    Maybe you got confused because she said “the god of this word is Satan”. Actually the word “word” should have read “world” because she is referring to quoting from 2 Corinthians 4:4

    “In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ.

    There is more evidence of this in 1 John 5:19:
    “We know that we are from God, and the whole world lies in the power of the evil one”.

    That verse is saying that everyone who has not become a born again believer in Jesus still belongs to the evil one aka (also known as) satan.

    In other words, the “god” of this world is satan who is the enemy of the true Almighty, All knowing God who’s presence fills the Universe. Therefore, we beseech every unbeliever everywhere to receive Christ for eternal salvation from sin and (at the same time) be eternally rescued from satans power and control over you.

  29. Deborah (Discerning the World) says:

    Oh crickey did I say that? Oooops. BIG typo!

    Thanks John!

  30. John Chingford says:

    “and (at the same time) be eternally rescued from satans power and control over you”.

    I think I need to clarify that. I should have said that the moment a person receives Christ as their personal Saviour, there are two specific (but not just two)things that happen simultaneously.

    1) That person is saved from their sins for eternity (not by living a good life) by receiving Jesus’s sacrificial death (Him taking your place on the cross) as the payment for your sins and securing you eternal life – provided you put your faith and trust in Him

    2) That person is immediately eternally rescued from satan’s power and control over them. They now belong to God through Jesus. They now belong to an infinitely greater master.

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