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Wanneer Stephan Joubert soos ‘n wafferse Pous Ex Cathreda spreek, moet almal doen wat hy sê. As hy sê jy moet opstaan vir die waarheid en God se wil, dan moet jy dit onvoorwaardelik doen, en wanneer hy vir jou sê jy moenie opstaan vir God se waarheid en sy wil nie, dan moet jy dit ook onvoorwaardelik nie doen nie. |
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 Double Belonging or Christian Buddhism
Romans 14:8 Amplified Bible, Classic Edition (AMPC)
“If we live, we live to the Lord, and if we die, we die to the Lord. So then, whether we live or we die, we belong to the Lord.”
The modernized version of Romans 14:8 sounds like this:
“If we live, we live to the Lord AND Buddha, and if we die, we die to the Lord AND Buddha. So then, whether we live or we die, we belong to the Lord AND Buddha”
One of the most dangerous and skewed peculiarities of the Emergent Church is its mistaken view of suffering. Though they may disagree with this statement and argue that their understanding of suffering is firmly based on what the Bible says about it, careful examination shows that their opinion of suffering is rooted in Buddhism or more precisely in “Christian Buddhism”.
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 Spiritual Parrots
The Emergent Church is swamped with spiritual parrots. None of them have the originality to say something innovative.
1 John 4:5-6: Amplified Bible (AMP)
 5 They [who teach twisted doctrine] are of the world and belong to it; therefore they speak from the [viewpoint of the] world [with its immoral freedom and baseless theories-demanding compliance with their opinions and ridiculing the values of the upright], and the [gullible one of the] world listens closely and pays attention to them. 6 We [who teach God’s word] are from God [energized by the Holy Spirit], and whoever knows God [through personal experience] listens to us [and has a deeper understanding of Him]. Whoever is not of God does not listen to us. By this we know [without any doubt] the spirit of truth [motivated by God] and the spirit of error [motivated by Satan].
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 Sweeping the Truth under the Carpet
For God’s [holy] wrath and indignation are revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who in their wickedness repress and hinder the truth and make it inoperative. (Romans 1:18)
Many Christians the world over expected something of eschatological proportions to happen on 28th September 2015 when a complete moon eclipse (a so-called blood moon) appeared in the sky. As usual, nothing happened. But wait a sec., something of disproportionate value did actually happen . . . Look, look, can you believe it, it is Doug of “The King of the Queens” soapy sweeping the truth under a carpet, and “nogal” on a blood moon.
Folks, this is really something out of the ordinary. I just received a report that Stephan Joubert has decided to stop sweeping the truth under the carpet and to prove his resolve he decided to distance himself from Doug, his wife and their parents of “The King of the Queens” soapy who habitually sweep the truth under the carpet. Now, if this is not something bigger and brighter than any other eschatological event on the calendar, then I don’t know what is.
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Quip of the Week: Parliament of World’s Religions: Birds of a Feather . . .
Facilitators in the Parliament of World’s Religions are working at break-neck speed to inaugurate the New World Order. After more than 22 years, it will again be held in America this year from 15 to 19 October in Salt Lake City.The most tragic reality is that many so-called Christians are being sucked into this maelstrom of apostasy, allowing them to be useful idiots in the hands of the globalists.
Wikipedia defines the phrase “useful idiots” as follows,
“In political jargon, useful idiot is a term for people perceived as propagandists for a cause whose goals they are not fully aware of, and who are used cynically by the leaders of the cause. Despite often being attributed to Vladimir Lenin, in 1987, Grant Harris, senior reference librarian at the Library of Congress, declared that ‘We have not been able to identify this phrase among [Lenin’s] published works.'”
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 Can anyone please tell me how to peel a banana? In one of his recent articles on his blog Ekerk Stephan Joubert wrote the following little gem of wisdom .
See English translation below:
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Leonard Sweet and Stephan Joubert’s Emerging spots
The Bible is the most amazing, most awesome and most wonderful book ever written. No other book foretells and describes future events so accurately than the Bible. It even foretells how Stephan Joubert of ekerk and echurch fame will not be able to change his spots despite his emphatic denial that he and Leonard Sweet no longer bear the spots of the Emergent Church critters.
Jeremiah 13:23 Amplified Bible (AMP)
Can the Ethiopian change his skin or the leopard his spots? Then also can you do good who are accustomed and taught [even trained] to do evil.
Who could have guessed that not only the Bible but also a kiddy’s story written by Rudyard Kipling would relate to perfection how Stephan Joubert and Leonard Sweet never changed their spots – despite them having told us that they had discarded the Emergent Leopard’s spots – and have since learned to blend in with the usual run-of-the-mill critiques of the Emergent Church.
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 The Church Stephan Joubert is Building
What kind of church is Stephan Joubert building? The more I read Stephan Joubert’s articles on his sites (ekerk and echurch) the more evident it becomes that he has no confidence in the One who said,
And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. (Matthew 16:18).
No one in his right mind can miss the meaning of his words “I will.” It simply means that “He will” and
not “you will” or “they will” or “we will.” All the other “wills” besides His “I will” usually make a huge mess of things.
Think of it: The One who created everything and still upholds all things by the word of his power (Hebrews 1:1-3), is the very same One who said “I will build my church.”
Note carefully, He did not say “I will build . . .” the Dutch Reformed Church, the Reformed Church, the Roman Catholic Church, the Church of the Latter Day Saints, the Lutheran Church, the Anglican Church, the Apostolic Faith Mission Church, the Pentecostal and Charismatic Churches, the Emerging Church or any of the other 33 000 so-called Christian churches in existence today.
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The Un-holiness of Renovare’s “Holiness”
Adherents to the Emergent Church have an uncanny ability to tell their congregates what to do without explaining to them what they really have in mind.
They have the knack to use biblical terminology very skilfully and expertly but often fail to elucidate the biblical meaning of the words they hit to and fro like a little ping-pong ball.
“Holiness” is one of these words. I encountered this strange phenomena in one of Stephan Joubert’s regular contributions on e-church under the title “No Steroids for Holiness.” (now deleted).
Although it may be a very clever post-modernish title it reeks of heresy from the very outset, especially when one takes into account who it was who coined the witty little maxim. But allow me to use Stephan’s own words:
You can’t cheat your way to holiness. Or can you?
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 Emergent Mysticism: A biblical appraisal of the Mosaic Church Congress – Johannesburg (4-5 Sept. 2009) – Part 5
Session 3: Being a radical pilgrim and prophet – Stephan Joubert (Continued)
To summarize what Stephan Joubert has said so far the following points which are probably the main elements of his presentation, may be highlighted:
1. The mystical or contemplative approach to the making or grooming of Christ-followers is to teach people from every religious persuasion how to follow the Sage from heaven by convincing them that this Sage never linked onto the purity or priestly story (no one is excluded by being labeled saved or unsaved, in or out, clean or unclean, us and them, holy and unholy) but onto the wisdom story (particularly in the book of Proverbs which deals with the practical day to day living realities).
The demarcation or dividing line between holy and unholy, clean and unclean, and saved and unsaved must be eradicated at all cost because it implies judgment, division, separateness and un-connectedness.
In Matthew Fox’s book called “A New Reformation!” he writes that we are in fact confronted with two churches: one expressed by the image of the Punitive Father, personified by a rigidly hierarchical church structure, repression of the feminine, . . . and the other expressed by the feminine figure of Wisdom, personified by a Mother/Father God of justice and compassion. It is time for Christians to choose whom it will follow: an angry exclusionary god or the loving open path of wisdom (Emphasis added).
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A biblical appraisal of the Mosaic Church Congress – Johannesburg (4-5 Sept. 2009) – Part 4
Session 3: Being a radical pilgrim and prophet – Stephan Joubert
A human-engineered Kingdom on earth
Beware of this man. He is radically wrong and a false prophet who is misleading hundreds, if not thousands, of people
 Although the speakers did not always articulate the Kingdom of God in so many words, a human-centered and a human-engineered inauguration of the Kingdom of God was the main recurring feature of their presentations.
As such they merely maintained and upheld the central message, not of Jesus Christ the Son of the living God, but of a false Christ whose aim it is to establish his own kingdom on earth, a kingdom that includes all religions, and the common denominator to accomplish it is a contemplative lifestyle dominated by MEDITATION.
Am I being arduous in making such a claim? I don’t think so because the Jesus of the Bible never commanded his disciples to usher in or to establish his Kingdom on earth.
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Emergent Mysticism: A Biblical Appraisal of the Mosaic Congress held at the Mosaic Church (4 – 5 Sept. 2009) – Part 1
The usual suspects spoke at the Mosaic Congress namely; Ron Martoia (USA), Stephan Joubert, Johan Geyser, Trevor Hudson, Gavin Sklar-Chik, Gys Du Plessis, Willem Nicol, Rex van Vuuren, Annemarie Paulin-Campell
The new-old magical way to get in touch with God – “be still,” “be quiet,” “shut up,” “shhhhhhh”
 The well-known song “Silence is Golden may have been a hit on the singles UK charts in 1967, but the refrain “Silence is Truth” has hit the Christian Church like a tsunami, carrying with it in it’s destructive wake many unsuspecting Christians.
One of the major contributors to this utterly devastating “silent” storm is the Mosaic Church in Fairland, Johannesburg.
As an introduction to my critique on the Mosaic Congress I would like to draw your attention to certain words and phrases that all the keynote speakers used throughout their presentations.
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 Stephan Joubert … What You Think, Is What You Are
God says that our thoughts are mirror images of what we truly are in our deepest innermost being.
“For as he thinketh in his heart, so is he: Eat and drink, he says to you, but his heart is not with you”. (Proverbs 23:7)
My thoughts immediately went to this verse when I read Stephan Joubert’s article DO THE GRACE WALK on echurch’s website. He writes:
Never wait until you feel like doing nice things to mean people, because, frankly, you never will! Jesus never said you should wait until your enemies become your friends before you begin to love them. No, love them while you’re still angry at them! In other words: do good things to them and build a relationship with them while you actually feel like ripping their heads off their shoulders. Retaliate with love. Walk a second mile by giving them a glass of cold water when you’d rather want to give them a big dose of arsenic. The longer you do nice things to bad people and the more you lay the initial building blocks of new relationships, the more you’ll decipher the footsteps of God in front of you. You will become more and more like your heavenly Father.
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