Depopulation, Concentration Camps, Coffins and Guillotines

Terrible things are on the way in the USA and in other countries around the world.  Pray Jesus Christ comes soon.

Obama’s new DEPOPULATION Policy:


Then there are those ominous FEMA concentration camps (an estimated +/- 600 in total)

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Then there are the millions of COFFIN liners big enough to fix 3 to 4 people:

See how the above coffins are used in conjunction with the guillotines – NOTE this below video is VERY graphic and contains disturbing footage.


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Deborah (Discerning the World)

Deborah Ellish is the author of the above article. Discerning the World is an internet Christian Ministry based in Johannesburg South Africa. Tom Lessing and Deborah Ellish both own Discerning the World. For more information see the About this Website page below the comments section.

73 Responses

  1. Christopher

    I fixed the mistake. Do you think I should make the editing time longer? If so how much longer do you think? Did it carry on counting down when you had the editing window open?

  2. Burning Lamp says:

    America is a great country–and if it isn’t, it will one day be again.

    Christopher, thank you for your thoughtful response. However, I can’t agree with you on this statement and the Bible does not support it. That is why I urge you to get your eschatological ducks in a row. It changes your whole outlook and also I sent you a link to dispel the whole notion of idolizing America. Unless you check these things out and digest them, there is no further room for discussion. You need to get up to speed on these topics of the Lord’s soon and imminent return and also the fallacy of looking to America, that it will be redeemed. We sing “God Bless America” and God HAS blessed America far beyond anything we have deserved – but times are changing – we have reached critical mass and the prophecies of the Bible are coming to pass. America has refused to bless God and this is only escalating.

    Best wishes to you and I pray God will enlighten you and guide you!!

  3. Christopher Henderson says:

    Dear Deborah,

    Thanks. Sure, it wouldn’t be a bad idea to make the editing time longer. Yes, it appeared that the countdown continued while the editing window was open. Actually if I’m not mistaken, the editing window closed before the countdown completed (while I was in the middle of making some changes). I could be wrong about that, but I don’t think I got a full 10 minutes…

  4. Christopher Henderson says:

    Also, there are some other clarifications I’d like to make.

    When I stated that the counter-Reformation was still underway during the time that the Constitution was written, I neglected to mention the fact that the Jesuits, considered to be the heart of the counter-Reformation, were still considered technically non-existent due to the Bull of Extinction that had been issued in 1773. Therefore as of 1787, the counter-Reformation probably wasn’t “in full swing;” or at least wasn’t being carried out as overtly as it had been in decades/centuries past. However, the Council of Trent was still very much in effect at that time, as again it reportedly is today despite Vatican II–meaning that although the counter-Reformation had probably receded somewhat, it was still an ongoing concern. This correction doesn’t change the fact that ecumenism, which Realtime claims was the motivation behind the First Amendment, was NOT being preached by the Vatican during the time of the Constitutional Convention.

    Also, after taking some more time to think about Realtime’s questioning of our separation of church and state and American Dream, I find myself feeling puzzled. What would they rather have, the Council of Trent, inquisitions, and people being burned at the stake? I repeat that I like the Bill of Rights and every provision in it, as well as the American Dream–even having knowledge of America’s failings. The idea of God-given rights IS a Judeo-Christian principle, and recalls the second of God’s most important Commandments as expressed in the New Testament: to love our neighbors as ourselves. (No offense BL!)

    Now, when I stated that “if [America] isn’t great, it will one day be again,” I didn’t mean this as simply an expression of general optimism. There are some very powerful, non-partisan, moves that we can make to bring this about–and soon. One such move would be, as I said, to implement the Wanta Plan (which if some of the reports I’ve read are accurate, President Obama is in favor of); which would lead to a variety of beneficial outcomes for the people of the US and the world. Another one would be, again, for the government to allow a real 9/11 investigation; which in addition to revealing the complicity of Bush administration officials (seeing as even the most brutal punishment imaginable wouldn’t do a thing to alter the horrific impact of Bush’s/Cheney’s actions in this regard, I for one am not really that interested in punishing them), would more importantly give our military every reason to withdraw from Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan. It’s not that I want us to lose these conflicts, mind you; it’s just that based on 9/11 lies we shouldn’t have been there to begin with. We need to get those men and women out of harm’s way, and back home where we can care for them. With a simultaneous implementation of the Wanta Plan, we can do this very thing, create a bunch of new jobs in the public and private sectors, and provide financial incentives for peace in I/A/P at the same time.

    (If energy-related concerns account for “why we really went,” well, we’re supposed to have about 1.5 trillion barrels of oil right here in the US. Even better than that, there are all kinds of free/renewable energy sources that can be rolled out to make us both energy-independent and easier on the environment.)

    I repeat: despite our failings, America is great. As with any temporal institution, however, there’s always room for improvement.

    I’ll get off my high horse now and go back to watching baseball!

  5. Christohper

    >> the editing window closed before the countdown completed (while I was in the middle of making some changes).

    oh crikey….

  6. Christopher

    >> Now, when I stated that “if [America] isn’t great, it will one day be again,” I didn’t mean this as simply an expression of general optimism. There are some very powerful, non-partisan, moves that we can make to bring this about–and soon.

    Sorry I gotta laugh at this. LOL 😉 You are sooooooo not looking at the BIG picture. Ordinary moves on a chess board are not going to stop the final check mate at the end Christopher. Get your ESCHATOLOGY sorted out and then you will understand the BIGGER picture.

    >> despite our failings, America is great. As with any temporal institution, however, there’s always room for improvement.

    You look at things from a worldly position where as a Christian you SHOULD be looking at things from a Christian BIBLICAL position and you are not doing that. BL is absolutely right.

  7. Christopher Henderson says:

    Dear Deborah and Burning Lamp,

    I’m sorry for the delay in getting back to you. I’ve been giving your recent posts a lot of thought, and I wanted to make sure I had some time to collect my thoughts before responding. With sufficient reflection time having elapsed, let’s begin!

    In terms of “idolizing” America, with all due respect, I don’t think that’s what I’m doing. I hoped to make that clear by conceding a number of dreadful things America has done over the last few centuries. Indeed, being the victim of a grotesque, lifelong mind control experiment and a seemingly never-ending litany of COINTELPRO/Stasi terrorist attacks (no, I am NOT joking; although I wish I was), and a conspiracy researcher as well, I am in a somewhat unique position to witness firsthand the depravity and corruption that sadly appears to be prevalent in our society.

    Are said problems the be-all and end-all of America’s fate? Well clearly, upon Jesus’ return, everything will be sorted out. The check-mate at the end, which will be against our enemy Lucifer Satan (the “god” of the so-called elites who have led us so far astray), and an event that I pray happens soon (something we all can agree on!), will certainly be orders of magnitude more powerful than any move that could be made by whatever leaders are in power at the time. You’re definitely right about that.

    However, should being certain of what the Bible states will happen, and even believing that the time in which humanity’s Redemption is at hand is now (an assumption that’s very plausible, if not iron-clad; for after all, 1) no one knows the day and hour of His return; and 2) again, the cataclysmic events that many point to as signs of the End Times are arguably man-made, using high-tech superweapons), prompt our leaders to do nothing to help their constituents–or even worse, to partake in further corruption? In other words, should having faith lead them (and us) to be complacent, or even worse, apathetic? You might respond to this by stating that no, Christians who partake in soul-winning/evangelism aren’t apathetic at all; a point to which I agree. However, what about elected officials, military leaders, and the like? Whether they are Christians or not, they aren’t private citizens like we are. Their job is to promote the safety and well-being of the people. What do you suggest that they do–nothing? Just sit back and let injustice thrive? I’m sorry but I have a problem with this.

    ALL citizens/residents, whether in the government or not, and whether they are Christian or not, have a moral responsibility to do the right thing. For Christians, I believe that this imperative is even more pronounced due to the Parable of the Faithful Servant (Luke 12:35-48). Again, for private individuals such as ourselves, the kind of diligence the Lord requires includes obeying Him at all times in all that we do–from our professions to our family lives to spreading the Gospel. Although we don’t make big decisions affecting others on a national scale, I’d argue that any reasonable definition of civic duty ought to include our becoming aware of the issues that the decision-makers who represent us end up deciding on (a perspective that, based on my understanding of their worldviews, American Founding Fathers such as Washington, Jefferson, and Madison would have agreed with wholeheartedly). As for the decision-makers themselves, again, I feel that on the basis of loyalty, professionalism, and adhering to God’s Word (Luke 12:35-48, for example), they are obligated to act in a manner that promotes the overall well-being of the people. To do otherwise would be not only to betray the public trust and their oaths of office, but also to betray the Lord (a kind of malfeasance that brings harsh consequences, as the lazy and drunken servant in the parable discovers).

    What I am stating here is a point that you hopefully don’t find unreasonable: that the leaders whom the Lord will look favorably upon when He returns are the ones who are wise and faithful. That is, the ones who live up to their responsibilities and the trust we give them. With this in mind, why wouldn’t US leaders implement the Wanta Plan? Why not initiate a real 9/11 investigation? These two moves, if done wisely and judiciously, could do wonders to improve the lot of the American people. It doesn’t matter if you or I think the American people aren’t living up to what God has in mind for us, our leaders are sworn (on a Bible no less) to do right by us! On another level, our leaders are our neighbors; and as such are bound by God’s Word to treat us as they want to be treated! Seeing as without doubt, they don’t want to be lied to and defrauded, it follows that again, as God’s Word and common sense decree, they are duty and honor-bound to not commit those offenses against us!

    Deborah, please don’t get mad at me, but I feel like when you say “You look at things from a worldly position where as a Christian you SHOULD be looking at things from a Christian BIBLICAL position” you’ve pulled a bit of a bait-and-switch. Whereas before you stated that being a “friend to the world” means to embrace a sinful lifestyle (an interpretation that I thought we agreed on), now you seem to be implying that to care about anything or anyone in the world is to go against the Bible! While yes, we aren’t to care about anything or anyone more than the Lord–I understand that and totally agree–sorry but I don’t see wanting to see people’s plights improve and advocating on behalf of them as a bad thing. Indeed, isn’t doing so being a wise and faithful servant to the Lord?

    I agree with both of you when you state that I need to work harder to understand eschatology. After all, I am still a relative newcomer to the faith. And you could very well be right in asserting that my interest in improving the lot of the American people isn’t healthy. Then again, we’re supposed to have a government that’s by the people and for the people; and maybe, just maybe, I’m doing my civic duty in doing due diligence on what steps could be taken to improve matters. In this line of thinking, hopefully the Lord sees me as a wise and faithful servant (especially since thanks to His help I gave up alcohol a few years back :). Perhaps He might even view my hope and optimism as admirable, given the nightmarish existence the luciferian NWO has subjected me to via the lifelong mind control experiment I mentioned. In all seriousness, it would be very difficult to describe to you how much pain I undergo on a daily basis. I may not idolize America–as I stated, there are probably relatively few people who understand our weaknesses as well as I do–but let me tell you: just as I liked saying the words “liberty” and “government” when I was little, saluted the American flag as a youth in St. Louis, Missouri, and have lived the vast majority of my life here, I WILL NOT relinquish my hope and patriotism. The rogue alphabet soup agency punks who torture me on a daily basis and have been doing so for 30 years don’t have enough in ’em to bring that about. (I was going to go on a rant about these cowards and how much I hate them–or at least what they do–but upon further review I don’t think that’s worthwhile. I just have to trust in what I know to be true: that God in His all-seeing, all-knowing, limitless power will hold them accountable.)

    In closing, I would like to thank both of you for taking the time to interact with me and for sharing your valuable opinions. Although I would like to converse more with you on this thread, I understand if you don’t wish to further discuss eschatological issues with me. Even though we may have different perspectives on certain points, I know that each of us in our own way is doing our best to serve the Lord. In other words, what we have in common is more important than our differences. Here’s hoping for Lord Jesus to return soon! May He bless all of you always.

  8. Burning Lamp says:

    Dear Christopher,

    Thank you for your thoughtful discourse and charitable manner in which you express your views. The way you describe your private and personal suffering and struggles cannot help but generate empathy and compassion.

    If I may I would like to address several of your comments:

    You said, “a perspective that, based on my understanding of their worldviews, American Founding Fathers such as Washington, Jefferson, and Madison would have agreed with wholeheartedly).”

    I must ask you if you ever went to the site I recommended to learn the documented truth about the founding fathers? This should greatly interest you in your research. Until you take this step and digest that information you will continue in your faulty thinking. May I again respectfully ask you to look into this and then come back with your comments about it.

    You said:
    “that the leaders whom the Lord will look favorably upon when He returns are the ones who are wise and faithful. That is, the ones who live up to their responsibilities and the trust we give them.”

    The Lord will not “look favorably” upon anyone, regardless of their station in life unless they are trusting in His Son, Jesus Christ. Their good works, no matter if they are good leaders, kind, loyal and have all those good human qualities will count for nothing because there is no way to please God except through the sacrifice of His Son. If there
    was a way, Christ would not have needed to be sacrificed.

    You said, “I WILL NOT relinquish my hope and patriotism.”

    Christopher, our hope is NOT in any country, our hope is ONLY in Jesus Christ. No country on earth is worthy of our devotion – our true citizenship is NOT here – it is in heaven. Any good deeds we do here are not to honor our government, they are to honor our Lord and Savior. Yes, we are to care about the poor, but if we only feed them physical food and leave them spiritually bankrupt we have done a terrible thing. We are to live for God in all that we do, to glorify HIM and serve HIM. That means that we live by Biblical principles and keep the laws unless they are in conflict with the Bible.
    Yes, we are to be aware of what goes on in the world, but we have to acknowledge that this is a fallen world and the road is narrow and few will find it.

    If your hope is in a government or a country you WILL be disappointed. Christopher, here is the definition of “patriotism”. devoted love, support, and defense of one’s country; national loyalty.

    We are to love the Lord our God will ALL of ourselves. He is the ONLY One Who is deserving of our love and devotion. Anything we do is supposed to be done with Him in mind first and foremost. God has blessed this country despite the fact that we have spit in His face, killed His creations and legalized immorality. But His patience will not last – no country can retain greatness when materialism
    is their god and self reigns. Again, you will better understand all of this if you take a hard look at the origins I mentioned. Until you do that, you will not understand.

    I too wish you well and sincerely hope you will grow in your faith and understanding of eschatology and receive healing from your wounds. You are obviously a very sincere person who desires truth.

  9. anon says:

    I was just wondering: is Pamela Schuffert a reliable source (she is mentioned in the last video about the guillotines)? I don’t know much about her but there is some weird info about her on the internet….

  10. anon

    The info in this video is reliable, Pamela Schuffert however is not reliable, for instance she preaches that the church will go through the tribulation… which is not true.

  11. anon says:

    I wonder why Greece is considered to be the safest country in Europe? (this is mentioned at the end of the video)

  12. anon

    Errrr, that is a GOOD QUESTION.

  13. Sharon says:

    Burning Lamp wrote:

    Debs. thanks for the clarification especially on Alex Jones who it isn’t clear where he is spiritually and also Pamela. She professes to be a Christian and no doubt influences many believers. I know Christians who are all wrapped up in Conspiracy Theories and their eyes are on man and not on the Lord. I do hope that this will be a lead-in for some folks to get on the straight and narrow and concentrate on the true threats – false teachings and wolves that are ravaging the flocks.

    Many blessings to ya!!!

    Thanks for all the great stuff you post and all your faithfulness and hard work.

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