Chris Oyakhilome – Jesus is NOT Gods Word anymore, You are!!

Chris OyakhilomeChris Oyakhilome – Jesus is NOT Gods Word anymore, You are!!

Pastor Chris Oyakhilome says:  You Are God’s Word!   –  March 23rd, 2010

“God gives us His Words for the purpose of making us His word…”

Do you know you are God’s Word?  When you were born again, you were born by the Word of God. This means your destiny in the realm of the Spirit is to be the Word of God because you were born by the word of God. It means your nature is of the Word and your character is of the word. Glory to God!

Mountains and hills refer to authority (Isaiah 55:1- 12) and they shall break forth before you; the trees which are people shall clap their hands as you pass by! Isn’t this awesome?  That’s what God’s word says about you. Are you ready to accept it and function therein?  —    [Emphasis added]

In this snippet from video below:

The Entrance of Thy Words – a teaching by a supposed ‘man of God’, Pastor Chris Oyakhilome – learn more on this unbiblical FALSE identity…



Chris Oyakhilome you blaspheme.  To think you are a god or on the way to becoming one is heretical.  You should be bowing before Jesus Christ, but you want Him to bow down to you.  Christ Oyakhilome please repent of this vile doctrine before it’s too late.

What does the bible say, who is the only one that is divine?

Divinity of Jesus Christ

John 1:1-5

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
John 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
John 1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
John 1:5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

The Word of God Made Flesh, that is Jesus Christ

John 1:14-18

John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
John 1:15 John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.
John 1:16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.
John 1:17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
John 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

This is the exact same thing that Satan said to Adam and Even in the garden of Eden:

Genesis 3:4-6

Gen 3:4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
Gen 3:5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
Gen 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

This is what God thinks of mere men who want to be Him:

Ezekiel 28:1-2,6-10

Ezek 28:1 The word of the LORD came again unto me, saying,
Ezek 28:2 Son of man, say unto the prince of Tyrus, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thine heart is lifted up, and thou hast said, I am a God, I sit in the seat of God, in the midst of the seas; yet thou art a man, and not God, though thou set thine heart as the heart of God:
Ezek 28:6 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thou hast set thine heart as the heart of God;
Ezek 28:7 Behold, therefore I will bring strangers upon thee, the terrible of the nations: and they shall draw their swords against the beauty of thy wisdom, and they shall defile thy brightness.
Ezek 28:8 They shall bring thee down to the pit, and thou shalt die the deaths of them that are slain in the midst of the seas.
Ezek 28:9 Wilt thou yet say before him that slayeth thee, I am God? but thou shalt be a man, and no God, in the hand of him that slayeth thee.
Ezek 28:10 Thou shalt die the deaths of the uncircumcised by the hand of strangers: for I have spoken it, saith the Lord GOD.

Updated:  Added the following article…

The Bible says, “I said, You are gods” – But is this entirely true?

Many a preacher today teaches that we are gods, or little gods, based on the incorrect interpretation of scripture.  Some are very subtle in the way they teach this message, others come out right and just say it.

The verse they will show you to try prove their point is   John 10:34;   “Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your law, ‘I said, “You are gods”‘?

But let me explain what Jesus really meant:

Jesus was in dialogue with the Jews of His day and quoting from the Old Testament Psalms, saying:  “Is it not written in your law, ‘I said, “You are gods”‘?  The Jews wanted to stone Jesus for calling God His Father and making Himself equal with God.  So Jesus quotes Pslam 82 to them to show the distinction between himself and those in Pslam 82 who were called ‘gods’.

Pslam 82 was written AGAINST certain unjust rulers in Israel’s history.  Men of high distinction (Judges/Rulers) were almost seen as gods because of the power they wielded over the nation.  The problem is these men were UNJUST.  Verse 82:2  says:  “How long will you judge unjustly, And show partiality to the wicked? and verses 6-7 say,  6 “I said, “You are gods, And all of you are children of the Most High.”  7 But you shall die like men,  And fall like one of the princes.”  So these rulers are not gods, they were given this name by mere men, but were they still children of God?  Yes.  But they will die like everyone else.  So the point Jesus was making was that if unjust rulers can be called gods (by men), how can the Jews who wanted to stone Him object to Him saying that he was the Son of God?

Can you see how easily scripture gets twisted and the next minute you have men and women running around teaching New Age teachings under the banner of Christianity.

BEWARE of ANYONE who tells you that you can be a God or Christ.  When you become a born again Christian you grow to become more Christ-like, you DO NOT become like Christ or a Christ or anything Divine for that matter.  However in Charismatic churches you do; you become a little god – ‘Faith’ becomes an actual force that you wield at your command as you speak things into existence.  This is totally and utterly occult.  The New Age religion believes in something similar, that each person is a god/goddess, they just have not realised it yet – a god trapped in a human body part of a huge cosmos – trying to turn the world into one spiritual tower of Babel.

THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD:

1. Deuteronomy 4:35,39 – Unto thee it was shown, that thou mightest know that the LORD he is God; there is none else beside him. (39) Know therefore this day, and consider it in thine heart, that the LORD he is God in heaven above, and upon the earth beneath: there is none else.

2. Deuteronomy 6:4 – Hear, O Israel: The LORD thy God is one LORD. [Note in Mark 12:28-34 how Jesus and a Jewish scribe he encountered understood this text.]

3. Deuteronomy32:39 – See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.

4. 2 Samuel 7:22 – Wherefore thou art great, O LORD God; for there is none like thee, neither is there any God beside thee, according to all that we have heard with our ears.

5. 1 Kings 8:60 – That all the people of the earth may know that the LORD is God, and that there is none else.

6. 2 KINGS 5:15 – And he returned to the man of God, he and all his company, and came, and stood before him: and he said, Behold, now I know that there is no God in all the earth, but in Israel; now therefore, I pray thee, take a blessing of thy servant.

7. 2 Kings 19:15 – And Hezekiah prayed before the LORD, and said, O LORD God of Israel, which dwellest between the cherubims, thou art the God, even thou alone, of all the kingdoms of the earth; thou hast made heaven and earth.

8. 1 Chronicles 17:20 – O LORD, there is none like thee, neither is there any God beside thee, according to all that we have heard with our ears.

9. Nehemiah 9:6 – Thou, even thou, art LORD alone; thou has made heaven, the heaven of heavens, with all their host, the earth, and all things that are therein, the seas, and all that is therein, and thou preservest them all; and the host of heaven worshippeth thee.

10. Psalm 18:31 – For who is God save the LORD? or who is a rock save our God?

11. Psalm 86:10 – For thou art great, and doest wondrous things: thou art God alone.

12. Isaiah 37:16,20 – O LORD of hosts, God of Israel, that dwellest between the cherubims, thou art the God, even thou alone, of all the kingdoms of the earth: thou has made heaven and earth. (20) Now therefore, O LORD our God, save us from his hand, that all the kingdoms of the earth may know that thou art the LORD, even thou only.

13. Isaiah43:10,11 – Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no savior.

14. Isaiah44:6,8 – Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. Fear ye not, neither be afraid; have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.

15. Isaiah 45:21 – Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time: who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Savior; there is none beside me.

16. Isaiah 46:9 – For I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me.

17. Hosea 13:4 – Yet I am the LORD thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me; for there is no savior beside me.

18. Joel 2:27 – And ye shall know that I am in the midst of Israel, and that I am the LORD your God, and none else: and my people shall never be ashamed.

19. Zechariah 14:9 – And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.

20. Mark 12:29-34 -And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. And the second is like, namely this, thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these. And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he: And to love him with all the heart, and with all the understanding, and with all the soul, and with all the strength, and to love his neighbor as himself, is more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices. And when Jesus saw that he answered discreetly, he said unto him, Thou art not far from the kingdom of God. And no man after that durst ask him any question.

21. John 17:3 – And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

22. Romans 3:30 – Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.

23. 1 Corinthians 8:4-6 – As concerning therefore the eating of those things that are offered in sacrifice unto idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is none other God but one. For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,) But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

24. Galatians 3:20 – Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.

25. Ephesians 4:6 – One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

26. 1 Timothy 1:17 – Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.

27. 1 Timothy 2:5 – For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.

28. James 2:19 – Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

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Deborah Ellish is the author of the above article. Discerning the World is an internet Christian Ministry based in Johannesburg South Africa. Tom Lessing and Deborah Ellish both own Discerning the World. For more information see the About this Website page below the comments section.

107 Responses

  1. MoG says:

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  2. Grace says:

    If you dont believe in what he is saying, that is your problem. If he is coming to ur town, dont take your family there.. He is not forcing you. you dont have to call him names. God knows his people.

  3. united against chirst embassy says:

    A Hebrew – English Bible
    According to the Masoretic Text and the JPS 1917 Edition
    Psalms Chapter 82 תְּהִלִּים
    א מִזְמוֹר, לְאָסָף:
    אֱלֹהִים, נִצָּב בַּעֲדַת-אֵל; בְּקֶרֶב אֱלֹהִים יִשְׁפֹּט. 1 A Psalm of Asaph. {N}
    God standeth in the congregation of God; in the midst of the judges He judgeth:
    ב עַד-מָתַי תִּשְׁפְּטוּ-עָוֶל; וּפְנֵי רְשָׁעִים, תִּשְׂאוּ-סֶלָה. 2 ‘How long will ye judge unjustly, and respect the persons of the wicked? Selah
    ג שִׁפְטוּ-דַל וְיָתוֹם; עָנִי וָרָשׁ הַצְדִּיקוּ. 3 Judge the poor and fatherless; do justice to the afflicted and destitute.
    ד פַּלְּטוּ-דַל וְאֶבְיוֹן; מִיַּד רְשָׁעִים הַצִּילוּ. 4 Rescue the poor and needy; deliver them out of the hand of the wicked.
    ה לֹא יָדְעוּ, וְלֹא יָבִינוּ– בַּחֲשֵׁכָה יִתְהַלָּכוּ;
    יִמּוֹטוּ, כָּל-מוֹסְדֵי אָרֶץ. 5 They know not, neither do they understand; they go about in darkness; {N}
    all the foundations of the earth are moved.
    ו אֲנִי-אָמַרְתִּי, אֱלֹהִים אַתֶּם; וּבְנֵי עֶלְיוֹן כֻּלְּכֶם. 6 I said: Ye are godlike beings, and all of you sons of the Most High.
    ז אָכֵן, כְּאָדָם תְּמוּתוּן; וּכְאַחַד הַשָּׂרִים תִּפֹּלוּ. 7 Nevertheless ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.’
    ח קוּמָה אֱלֹהִים, שָׁפְטָה הָאָרֶץ: כִּי-אַתָּה תִנְחַל, בְּכָל-הַגּוֹיִם. 8 Arise, O God, judge the earth; for Thou shalt possess all the nations. {P}

  4. Zion says:

    If u are born again it means God gave birth to u dont u get it? U are born by God’s Word. or wht do u think gives birth to u again? so u become a daughter or son of the Word(God).
    1Peter 1:24
    For you have been begotten(born) again by God’s ever-living and enduring word from a germ not of perishable, but of imperishable life.(WNT)

    Now because u are born by the Word or God, Jesus is ur elder brother. bible says He is the firstborn.

    Romans 8:29
    For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.(KJV)

    That’s why it said in John3:16 that only begotten son. bcos at that time God had only one Son. but after that many became born again so the bible says that Jesus is the first begotten or firstborn among many brothers and sisters. why? because he has brothers and sisters now who are born again or born by God Himself…

    PLEASE READ AND STUDY UR BIBLES IT IS ALL IN THERE. Glory to God!!

  5. chiedu says:

    This is NOTHING, Pastor Chris Oyahkilome say’s MASTURBATION IS NOT A SIN

    See the video Here

    And the funny thing is that his church members defend him.

  6. Lorna says:

    God bless Pastor Chris.You opened our eyes.We are not slaves.We were put/are on this earth to reign.We know that we know….!

  7. innocent zulu says:

    one thing am sure of is that pastor Chris is so deep in the word such that many of you cannot get it. This guy is speaking the word and revalations to us but we just find a chance to judge things that we do not anderstand. We should read Gods word and after you will see how deep you will become as time goes by. New revalations will come and you will start saying things that are too deep for man kind. PASTOR CHRIS IS CORRECT.

  8. Auguste says:

    [deleted – the answer to the question is in the article, I don’t need you telling me otherwise]

  9. innocent

    >> Chris is so deep in the word such that many of you cannot get it. This guy is speaking the word and revalations to us but we just find a chance to judge things that we do not anderstand

    LOL, no innocent, the bible is for everyone to understand. But you contradict yourself, first you say that Chris O is all knowing and only he understand the bible, then you say that Chris O is correct in whatever he says. How do you know Chris O is correct if you don’t know what Chris is saying is true or not? Hmmmm. Innocent, I think it’s time you become Learnered and study the scriptures for yourself and not what someone else TELLS you is his VERSION of the truth.

  10. Lorna

    Shame, you must have had such a complex and then you men con-artist Chris O and he told you a lie.

  11. chiedu

    Yes they would agree with him because they are all little gods who can sin and don’t have to repent.

  12. ISAIAH AWARIDHE says:

    [deleted – You don’t need to insult me. Never the less – You are NOT a GOD! and you NEVER will be.]

  13. Johanna says:

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  14. Johanna says:

    I have listened to the clip and it does not match what the sender mentioned. Ye are gods is mentioned serveral times in the Bible , who is it referring to? Why is it mentioned in theBible? Beware of all these things that are said on this website or any website that talksnegatively about the preachers of the Word. What does the Word of God say about these idle talks. Continue…………….if God has an noted you people to be the judge in this World.. Continue……………… Does it benefit the Spirit . What you are saying does it bring people to Jesus? Talking about other preachers is it part of the Gospel? Rejoicing about someone’s illness is it compassion? Is it part of the Gospel? It does not matter what he said but is it worth rejoicing? Continue……………

  15. Johanna says:

    Thomas Lessing wrote:

    Replacement theology, one of the heresies of reformed theology, believes that the church has replaced Israel as a nation. Henceforth all the blessings (please note: never the curses)have been transferred to the church. But this is impossible because the church as an entity (body of Christ)with the middle wall of partition broken down between Jews and Gentiles (Ephesians 2:11-17)was a mystery (unknown) in the Old Testament (Colossians 1:26). A mystery (“musterion”) is something that was unknown in the past but is now revealed to God’s saints.

    The prophet Isaiah describes the reinstatement of the remnant of Israel at Jesus’ Second Advent (not the Rapture) when He will set up his Millennium Kingdom on earth with its headquarters in Jerusalem. Even nature will be joyful then and metaphorically “clap their hands.” (Isaiah 55:12b). Paul says of this: “For [even the whole] creation (all nature) waits expectantly and longs earnestly for God’s sons to be made known [waits for the revealing, the disclosing of their sonship]. (Romans 8: 19). This is going to occur, as I said, when He establishes his Millennium reign on earth and vast changes in nature are going to take place (Isaiah 65:25).

  16. Johanna says:

    I have seen clapping of hands in many instances. When people are happy about something they tend to clap hands, when a guest speaker take on stage people clap. People clap hand always. Are jealous that maybe people clap for Padtor Chris? Oh boy I have seen many churches clap. Maybe it is abou you and Pastor Chris let me not get into that because this kind of discussion does not bring a sinner to Jesus. Continue if God has anointed you to talk and judge those who are preaching the Word of God. Continue………

  17. Johanna

    I am speaking now and I want to tell you something. I don’t judge Chris Oyakhilome, he judges himself by the false doctrine that he preaches!

  18. Johanna

    I have updated the article to include the answer to your question. Please read the article again.

  19. Thabo says:

    Pple pastor Chris is a Man sent frm God.pple u think God is so small tht He needs u to deal wth he’s matters?God is GoD n therefore He doesn’t need ur help in dealing wth he’s pple or Children-so hold ur Peace n let God b God,he doesn’t need a lawyer,U jst work out ur own salvation wth fear n tembling n doesn’t mean if u dnt agree wth something-it is wrong.Go back study ur bibles,dnt disagree with wht u never studied-reading one scripture doesn’t mean u knw the whole-may God bless U

  20. King says:

    [delete – you judge my salvation?]

  21. King says:

    I asked you a simple question and you deleted my question. You are the one judging people on your site. Why not answer the questions. Better to use your site to the glory of God instead of entangling yourself with controversies. Allow the one who called Oyakilome into ministry to deal with him His own way. Remember what happened to Mirriam when she judged Moses rightly. She got leprosy for her actions though she was right. Just a word of advice.

  22. King

    You ask the same questions over and over and I have answered them already, if you read the comments section you will see that.
    secondly if you insult me I will delete your comments. Read instructions and Read the comments, but more importantly READ your Bible correctly, something you clearly don’t do.

  23. anonymous says:

    [delete]

  24. Sovereign says:

    Dogs give birth to dogs.
    Cats give birth to cats.
    God gives birth to …?

    Study these verses for yourself:
    John 1:12-13, 1 Peter 1:23, Romans 8:14, Galatians 4:6, Philippians 2:15, 1 John 3:1.

    And my favourite to make it abundently clear that we (that are real christians) are sons of God TODAY.. 1 John 4:17 and 1 John 3:2.

    Concerning there being only one God, this is true. The Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit. Jesus Christ is the WORD of God made flesh (John 1:14). Those who are in Christ, have put on Christ.. i.e. Jesus is the HEAD, and the Church is the BODY (Ephesians 1:22-23, Ephesians 5:23, Colossians 1:18-24).

    If you don’t recognise Christ in you, and the fact that the new creation IS born of God (2 Corinthians 5:17-18) then pray that you may receive revelation (assuming you really are born again).

    Do you realise that by posting such messages, you aren’t actually edifying the Church. You are in fact discouraging people from God! Consider the spirit with which you are criticising “fellow believers”, whether your motivation really is from God.

    I am not saying that Pastor Chris is perfect, nor am I saying that people should think of themselves as anything without Christ. But in Christ, we are gods because we are his children by birth and are only so called because we are part of the body of Christ. This was all by God’s grace, we did not qualify for it, so we don’t boast about it as if it was something we earned. However we do glorify God and confirm His word by speaking these spiritual realities into our lives.

    The world is eagerly awaiting those who will dare to believe what God says about them and start living as true sons of God who are concious of their heavenly birth (Romans 8:19).

  25. Dear Sovereign

    You said, “God gives birth to …?

    God gives birth? Really?? Who impregnates Him to give birth?

    Yes we are SONS OF GOD, Chris and you are saying WE ARE GODS hence your blasphemous comment that “God gives birth to… gods”

    There is a very big difference.

  26. Sovereign says:

    1 Corinthians 2:13-14

    “Which things also we speak, not in the words which man’s wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.”

    I bet if you could delete the latter part of John 1:13 you would. The bible clearly lets us know in John 1:12-13 that WE (those truly in Christ) ARE BORN OF GOD. Why do you think Jesus himself let us know the importance of being BORN again / anew / from above (John 3:3-7).

    And just in case that wasn’t clear enough.. 1 Peter 1:23 spells it out that we (once again, those in Christ) were BORN of the Word of God.

    I don’t mind you arguing with me, besides, it helps me grow 🙂 BUT, I encourage you not to argue with the Word of God!

    Thank you for the post! I would like to point out that you have the ability to build people up with such a website. Please ensure that you are encouraging and building up the church, as opposed to discouraging them.

  27. Sovereign

    You said: “I bet if you could delete the latter part of John 1:13 you would. The bible clearly lets us know in John 1:12-13 that WE (those truly in Christ) ARE BORN OF GOD. Why do you think Jesus himself let us know the importance of being BORN again / anew / from above (John 3:3-7)”

    Being born of God / born again and becoming a child of God vs. ‘God giving birth’ like a ‘dog gives birth’ as you made the comparison are two different things.

    You said: “I don’t mind you arguing with me, besides, it helps me grow 🙂 BUT, I encourage you not to argue with the Word of God!”

    I don’t mind you arguing with me either, but please stop twisting the word of God.

    And again I repeat myself…and I highlight the main point of this article:

    Yes we are SONS OF GOD, Chris and you are saying WE ARE GODS hence your blasphemous comment that “God gives birth to… gods

    There is a very big difference

    Chris says, “Jesus is not God’s word anymore you are” in other words you are Christ.

    Tell me something, do you believe you are a GOD/CHRIST that can speak things into existence?

  28. Hi Sovereign,

    While reading your comment on dogs, cats and God I tried to imagine what kind of testimony you would present to an unbeliever who asked you to prove that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. It would be pretty much be something like a cat and dog fight.

    Unbeliever: Hi Sovereign, I see you believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. Do you have any proof?
    Sovereign: Hi there. Do you have a dog or a cat?
    Unbeliever: Yeah! I just adore the little critters. I have 3 dogs and 5 cats.
    Sovereign: Wow! Then you should know that dogs give birth to dogs (puppies) and cats give birth to cats (kittens).
    Unbeliever: Really? I never knew that. Only kidding. Why would you ask me a silly question like that?
    Sovereign. Well. it proves that Jesus is the Son of God cause God gives birth to gods, just like dogs give birth to dogs and cats give birth to cats.
    Unbeliever: Are you telling me that dogs and cats and cows and lions and tigers and bears and skunks et. etc. prove that Jesus is the Son of God?
    Sovereign: Yeah! Isn’t that just super.

    This is sooooo far from a real biblical Gospel presentation of the Sonship of Jesus Christ, and the only way to escape God’s righteous judgement for presenting such a load of nonsense, is to repent and be saved. A genuinely saved person will never, I repeat NEVER, believe and say such things.

  29. Sovereign says:

    Hi Tom & Deborah.

    I would let the Holy Spirit speak to the unbeliever through me (Mark 13:11) (Luke 12:12). That silly dialogue isn’t a fair representation of anything that I have posted on this site.

    When I mentioned dogs and cats, I was trying to help describe the spiritual, using examples of the physical. 1 Peter 1:23 spells it out that we are BORN again, not of corruptible sperm, but of incorruptible, by the WORD of God. Notice how Peter used the physical world as an example to help explain spiritual realities. Jesus did it too, and the worldly people got offended (John 6:51-52). Your counter argument was, and I quote:

    “God gives birth? Really?? Who impregnates Him to give birth?”

    And then you finally agree that we are BORN of God, but interestingly you are now implying it is not an actual BIRTH. Based on your comment I percieve that you are looking at it from a worldly perspective which is why you cannot receive the revelation (1 Corinthians 2:14).

    Like with everything that is preached concerning the bible, I search the scriptures myself and let the Holy Spirit teach me (John 14:16-17, John 14:26). Btw, I noticed you never quote bible verses to back up your arguments.

    I also noticed you were quick to tell me that I am not saved? Why are you so quick to convince people who clearly believe in the resurrected Jesus Christ and who affirm the Lordship of Jesus that they are not saved. Do you not believe that this is all that is required to be saved (Romans 10:9-10)?

    Please, please, please, examine yourselves (2 Corinthians 13:5)! This Spirit with which you operate, does it build up the body of Christ or does it find fault with everyone and simultaneously discourage brethren just because they have a different revelation to you?

    Now, I know where you have a problem with me, so I will address it and leave the rest up to you because we do not need to spend our time arguing (2 Timothy 2:23).

    I say that I am part of the word of God because His very Word (the incorruptible seed) is what birthed me (spiritually). This does not mean I exalt myself above God or Jesus because I know that it is by His grace and love that I am a part of Christ (Ephesians 1:22-23) (Ephesians 2:8). Being PART OF CHRIST is the only reason I can speak things into existance with such confidence (2 Corinthians 4:13). Jesus instructed us on how to do it and let us know that nothing is impossible (Matthew 17:20), or as Paul put it, I can do all things through Christ which strengthens me (Philippians 4:13).

    2 Corinthians 5:17 – I am a new species (born of the Word), in Christ.

    2 Corinthians 5:18 – All things (concerning my new life) ARE OF GOD.

    Colossians 3:3 – My new life is hid WITH CHRIST in God.

    Ephesians 1:23 – The body of Christ is the full measure of Him in whom all things are made complete.

    Ephesians 3:19 – It is possible for those in Christ to be filled with ALL THE FULNESS OF GOD.

    1 John 5:4 – I am born of God and I have overcome the world.

    I could go on, but I think I have made my point. I am not saying that I am THE Christ. Jesus is! I do however operate as the christ on this earth because that is what He said to do (John 20:21, John 14:12).

    Ephesians 2:6 – I AM SEATED TOGETHER WITH CHRIST IN HEAVENLY PLACES RIGHT NOW.

    1 John 4:17 – As He is, so am I, IN THIS WORLD.

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