Chris Oyakhilome – Jesus is NOT Gods Word anymore, You are!!
Chris Oyakhilome – Jesus is NOT Gods Word anymore, You are!!
Pastor Chris Oyakhilome says: You Are God’s Word! – March 23rd, 2010
“God gives us His Words for the purpose of making us His word…”
“Do you know you are God’s Word? When you were born again, you were born by the Word of God. This means your destiny in the realm of the Spirit is to be the Word of God because you were born by the word of God. It means your nature is of the Word and your character is of the word. Glory to God!
Mountains and hills refer to authority (Isaiah 55:1- 12) and they shall break forth before you; the trees which are people shall clap their hands as you pass by! Isn’t this awesome? That’s what God’s word says about you. Are you ready to accept it and function therein? — [Emphasis added]
In this snippet from video below:
The Entrance of Thy Words – a teaching by a supposed ‘man of God’, Pastor Chris Oyakhilome – learn more on this unbiblical FALSE identity…
Chris Oyakhilome you blaspheme. To think you are a god or on the way to becoming one is heretical. You should be bowing before Jesus Christ, but you want Him to bow down to you. Christ Oyakhilome please repent of this vile doctrine before it’s too late.
What does the bible say, who is the only one that is divine?
Divinity of Jesus Christ
John 1:1-5
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
John 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
John 1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
John 1:5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
The Word of God Made Flesh, that is Jesus Christ
John 1:14-18
John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
John 1:15 John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.
John 1:16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.
John 1:17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
John 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
This is the exact same thing that Satan said to Adam and Even in the garden of Eden:
Genesis 3:4-6
Gen 3:4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
Gen 3:5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
Gen 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
This is what God thinks of mere men who want to be Him:
Ezekiel 28:1-2,6-10
Ezek 28:1 The word of the LORD came again unto me, saying,
Ezek 28:2 Son of man, say unto the prince of Tyrus, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thine heart is lifted up, and thou hast said, I am a God, I sit in the seat of God, in the midst of the seas; yet thou art a man, and not God, though thou set thine heart as the heart of God:
Ezek 28:6 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thou hast set thine heart as the heart of God;
Ezek 28:7 Behold, therefore I will bring strangers upon thee, the terrible of the nations: and they shall draw their swords against the beauty of thy wisdom, and they shall defile thy brightness.
Ezek 28:8 They shall bring thee down to the pit, and thou shalt die the deaths of them that are slain in the midst of the seas.
Ezek 28:9 Wilt thou yet say before him that slayeth thee, I am God? but thou shalt be a man, and no God, in the hand of him that slayeth thee.
Ezek 28:10 Thou shalt die the deaths of the uncircumcised by the hand of strangers: for I have spoken it, saith the Lord GOD.
Updated: Added the following article…
The Bible says, “I said, You are gods” – But is this entirely true?
Many a preacher today teaches that we are gods, or little gods, based on the incorrect interpretation of scripture. Some are very subtle in the way they teach this message, others come out right and just say it.
The verse they will show you to try prove their point is John 10:34; “Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your law, ‘I said, “You are gods”‘?
But let me explain what Jesus really meant:
Jesus was in dialogue with the Jews of His day and quoting from the Old Testament Psalms, saying: “Is it not written in your law, ‘I said, “You are gods”‘? The Jews wanted to stone Jesus for calling God His Father and making Himself equal with God. So Jesus quotes Pslam 82 to them to show the distinction between himself and those in Pslam 82 who were called ‘gods’.
Pslam 82 was written AGAINST certain unjust rulers in Israel’s history. Men of high distinction (Judges/Rulers) were almost seen as gods because of the power they wielded over the nation. The problem is these men were UNJUST. Verse 82:2 says: “How long will you judge unjustly, And show partiality to the wicked? and verses 6-7 say, 6 “I said, “You are gods, And all of you are children of the Most High.” 7 But you shall die like men, And fall like one of the princes.” So these rulers are not gods, they were given this name by mere men, but were they still children of God? Yes. But they will die like everyone else. So the point Jesus was making was that if unjust rulers can be called gods (by men), how can the Jews who wanted to stone Him object to Him saying that he was the Son of God?
Can you see how easily scripture gets twisted and the next minute you have men and women running around teaching New Age teachings under the banner of Christianity.
BEWARE of ANYONE who tells you that you can be a God or Christ. When you become a born again Christian you grow to become more Christ-like, you DO NOT become like Christ or a Christ or anything Divine for that matter. However in Charismatic churches you do; you become a little god – ‘Faith’ becomes an actual force that you wield at your command as you speak things into existence. This is totally and utterly occult. The New Age religion believes in something similar, that each person is a god/goddess, they just have not realised it yet – a god trapped in a human body part of a huge cosmos – trying to turn the world into one spiritual tower of Babel.
THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD:
1. Deuteronomy 4:35,39 – Unto thee it was shown, that thou mightest know that the LORD he is God; there is none else beside him. (39) Know therefore this day, and consider it in thine heart, that the LORD he is God in heaven above, and upon the earth beneath: there is none else.
2. Deuteronomy 6:4 – Hear, O Israel: The LORD thy God is one LORD. [Note in Mark 12:28-34 how Jesus and a Jewish scribe he encountered understood this text.]
3. Deuteronomy32:39 – See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.
4. 2 Samuel 7:22 – Wherefore thou art great, O LORD God; for there is none like thee, neither is there any God beside thee, according to all that we have heard with our ears.
5. 1 Kings 8:60 – That all the people of the earth may know that the LORD is God, and that there is none else.
6. 2 KINGS 5:15 – And he returned to the man of God, he and all his company, and came, and stood before him: and he said, Behold, now I know that there is no God in all the earth, but in Israel; now therefore, I pray thee, take a blessing of thy servant.
7. 2 Kings 19:15 – And Hezekiah prayed before the LORD, and said, O LORD God of Israel, which dwellest between the cherubims, thou art the God, even thou alone, of all the kingdoms of the earth; thou hast made heaven and earth.
8. 1 Chronicles 17:20 – O LORD, there is none like thee, neither is there any God beside thee, according to all that we have heard with our ears.
9. Nehemiah 9:6 – Thou, even thou, art LORD alone; thou has made heaven, the heaven of heavens, with all their host, the earth, and all things that are therein, the seas, and all that is therein, and thou preservest them all; and the host of heaven worshippeth thee.
10. Psalm 18:31 – For who is God save the LORD? or who is a rock save our God?
11. Psalm 86:10 – For thou art great, and doest wondrous things: thou art God alone.
12. Isaiah 37:16,20 – O LORD of hosts, God of Israel, that dwellest between the cherubims, thou art the God, even thou alone, of all the kingdoms of the earth: thou has made heaven and earth. (20) Now therefore, O LORD our God, save us from his hand, that all the kingdoms of the earth may know that thou art the LORD, even thou only.
13. Isaiah43:10,11 – Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no savior.
14. Isaiah44:6,8 – Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. Fear ye not, neither be afraid; have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.
15. Isaiah 45:21 – Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time: who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Savior; there is none beside me.
16. Isaiah 46:9 – For I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me.
17. Hosea 13:4 – Yet I am the LORD thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me; for there is no savior beside me.
18. Joel 2:27 – And ye shall know that I am in the midst of Israel, and that I am the LORD your God, and none else: and my people shall never be ashamed.
19. Zechariah 14:9 – And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.
20. Mark 12:29-34 -And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. And the second is like, namely this, thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these. And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he: And to love him with all the heart, and with all the understanding, and with all the soul, and with all the strength, and to love his neighbor as himself, is more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices. And when Jesus saw that he answered discreetly, he said unto him, Thou art not far from the kingdom of God. And no man after that durst ask him any question.
21. John 17:3 – And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
22. Romans 3:30 – Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.
23. 1 Corinthians 8:4-6 – As concerning therefore the eating of those things that are offered in sacrifice unto idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is none other God but one. For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,) But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
24. Galatians 3:20 – Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.
25. Ephesians 4:6 – One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
26. 1 Timothy 1:17 – Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.
27. 1 Timothy 2:5 – For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.
28. James 2:19 – Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
Pearl
Yes and worst of all he is coming to SA again for this Night of Bliss tour. Sighs!
i agree with pearl, its abundantly clear that most people today dont have an idea what the bible really says, for example i found out that the purpose of scriptures that say we are now sons of God is truely to have us come to a point where we come from law breakers to law keepers (most people will start saysing we r no longer under the law etc…. really?)I saw pastor chris’s overcoming your world dvd and he said , ” God gave Isreal his laws but although they were perfect, and spiritual they could not make anything perfect therefore he found fault with it….” and he went on to say how we r no longer under the law and grace etc. but when i read hebrews 8 it clearly states that God found fault with isreal becoz they kept breaking His laws, hence he said he will form a new covenant with isreal which He will put HIS LAWS into their hearts and minds, and they will keep them and not break them because sin is lawlessness (breaking of laws, no regards of God’s law). this is clear that pstr chris broke what God said in his word, and much to my amazement people clapped hands and cheered. In the dvd, priestly believer or something like that he said Jesus went to hell but like most WOF prechers who say this, they imply that Jesus had to physically wrestle with satan in hell and get keys from him in there etc, that is heretical. If ever Jesus went to hell His sacrifice wouldnt have saved men because God required a perfect sacrifice, hence the lamb without blemish, if he took our sins on himself that means he was contaminated yet Peter later on said he was without sin. CE members must really start studying the bible not rhapsodies only as most of them do that, go home and study what u have been taught because he teaches some of the most bible contradicting teachings which he labels the gospel according to pstr chris, and he is right, its his doctrines not the bibles. I picked up many bible contradicting teachings of his which i cant add all of them….
I think your reply is honest but fleshy man is cursed in every way…that is why we forcus only on the work of Calvary…perfection is only Christ…the more we get closer to His purposes the more we understand…
it clearly states that God found fault with Israel because they kept breaking His laws, hence He said he will form a new covenant with Israel which He will put HIS LAWS into their hearts and minds, and they will keep them and not break them because sin is lawlessness (breaking of laws, no regards of God’s law).
Why is it that Pastor Chris FLAUNT his education.
Pastor Chris Ayikhilome PhD! How is this RELEVANT to him as man of God.
Why does Pstor Chris see the need to TEACH people faith so they receive healing. I want to understand the reason behind healing school. I read my bible and never ever has this ever been recorded in the bible. I also want to know why does he teach people how to “keep” their healing. WHERE does this heling coming from for him to teach people to get and keep it? Is He God!
Have you also noticed that when Pastor Chris prays for these people he never uses the name of Jesus! He only tells them “Out you are healed”. Not once have I seen him struggle with a demon. Demons spoke to Jesus refusing to leave the possessed. The bible says In The Name of Jesus We shall cast out demons! Someone from CE please respond.
Pearl
I am so glad you are one of the few who are TESTING Chris.
Chris needs to show everyone he has a PhD because it’s called INTIMIDATION. The people are stupid and he is smart so don’t argue with him.
Yes Chris has a healing school and he charges a small fortune as well to attend – if at the end of it all you are not healed, he blames the fact that you did not follow his steps correctly to get healed.
So he actually teaches people how to KEEP their healing? That I did not know. Please read my article on healing: http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/12/08/can-satan-heal/ – this will answer this question.
pearl and deb
there is nothing wrong with asking questions,but do yourself a favour by reading scriptures before commenting, i mean when Jesus said that when demon leaves a person (cast out)and fail to get a plce to dwell, it come back to it original place with extra 7 demons ….}, obviously a person whom demons have been driven out cannot afford to stay without the holyspirit, and by being filled with the holyspirit always, you cannot be possesed with demons again, and you do not have to be a member of christ embassy for that.
False teachers appeal to human pride and greed. Always. How cleverly do they spiritualize/allorgorize the scriptures to say what they want them to say!How they spin a greek word to say something it does not say! Most people don’t want to be bothered to really study the Word for themselves, but allow themselves to be taken in by these charlatans.
19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: 20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
2 Peter 1:19-21 (KJV)
1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. 2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not. 4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; 5 And spared
2 Peter 2:1-5 (KJV)
13 And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you; 14 Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children: 15 Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness; 16 But was rebuked for his iniquity: the dumb ass speaking with man’s voice forbad the madness of the prophet. 17 These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever. 18 For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error. 19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage. 20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge
2 Peter 2:13-20 (KJV)
16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. 17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness. 18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ
2 Peter 3:16-18 (KJV)
I could never say in a blog, the darkness that God has brought me thru due to false teachers!I got caught in the faith movement and struggled tremendously to discern the difference between faith in God and faith in faith. This was due to listening to these false teachers on radio and television when i first began to seek the Lord and had no real ability to discern truth from error , when the Word was cleverly twisted and wrested by these decievers/decieved teachers. False shepherds! And like dumb little sheep , we follow! I have found God to be true to His Word
Good and upright is the LORD: therefore will he teach sinners in the way. The meek will he guide in judgment: and the meek will he teach his way. All the paths of the LORD are mercy and truth unto such as keep his covenant and his testimonies.Psalm 25:8
Psalm 9:10 says that God has never forsaken anyone who searches for Him. I can testify of Gods faithfulness to me.
I do not mean to sound uncharitable, but i believe that most of them know exactly what they are doing! “feigned speech”! They are at the top of the food chain! Just like the false teachers of our Lords day who shut the kingdom to men!
13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in. 14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows’ houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation. 15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves. 16 Woe unto you, ye blind guides…
Matt 23:13-16 (KJV)
The days are getting darker.And whoever does not study the word for themselves is in great danger of being taken in by the evil seducers.
At the bottom is always pride and money , always! And power and position which are only tenacles of pride!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjfnsVo8xa0
Yes Jesus is the product alright!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRirh4zTwig
Or a thousand others: PLANT A SEED! Yes indeed, send it to them! Funny how they never say send it to the poor in your community, lol! Maybe they can manage it alittle better! Look online into the lavish lifestyles of these false prophets that are at the top of the food chain and care nothing about the souls of men! “Don’t worry about your light bill. God will take care of it,ect. ect.”
It is a blessing to be warned of a false teacher.If it makes you search it out, that is a good thing. Search it out.God will not fail to teach you if your heart is truly seeking truth.
I wish that i would have come accross this site some years ago, it would have rightly shattered my naivete that all who speak great glowing words of Jesus, really belong to Him.
Keep up the good work Deborah!
Sylesa
Right time for everything 🙂 You are here now and that counts a lot!!!
Sylesa, I praise God for delivering you out of the darkness. I am sure that your words of encouragement are refreshing to Deb’s spirit – she considers this her ministry and a ministry it is to people like you. She is willing to take the slings and arrows just to get the word out and her aim is to be a blessing. Thank you for your uplifting words!
Burning Lamp,
You are welcome! I am SOOOO happy to know that there are others out there that defend the truth of Gods Word! Deborah is doing a much needed ministry. Most of the people that i know , don’t seem to be real interested in wether teachings are correct with scripture. I really struggle to understand that because we read the samr bible, and it has ALOT of warnings about false teachers! I need to stop trying to figure that one out.
Sometimes , for entertainment value, i watch some of these wolves in sheeps clothing on youtube, there are some really funny ones out there!
It also makes me angry to hear what they say, because of the horrible spiritual damage that they do to people.
I need to read all the articles on this site, i saved the files. It will take a little time but i will read them.
Ps. For all of you that may have a twitter account, their are some funny parodies of some of these false teachers, my personal favorite is fakerodparsley and emergentjesus , check them out, you will laugh.
God bless everybody out there on this blog!
Sylesa, you are right – at times it can get so distressing and depressing with all the fake stuff and the damage they are doing to people. There are times when we just need some comic relief at the expense of some of these wolves. It isn’t funny, but there are times when one has to laugh at their ridiculous folly.
One place I go to when I need some humor related to discernment is a site called A Little Leaven.
Hi Burning Lamp,
Thanks for the info on the website! I am checking it out right now and it does promise to be entertaining! I love it! getting ready to watch “spin the bottle” lol
In the message “The Person of Jesus” Pastor Chris say Jesus was absent at creation and God did not have the son to give
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth 2 Tm 2:15
Dear Deborah
Thanks for the enlightening words on this site. I am currently a CEC member but I am also one of those who has come to the realisation that it seems to be more of a profit orientated organisation than a Church and I am really scared that I could have wasted so much time follwoing a false teaching. I just need to correct one comment above though about the healing School. No its not true that a fee is charged, people attend free of charge.my concern though has been aroused by the facts about teachings, manipulating the bible to drive a corporat business by teaching believers that Christianity is supposed to make you rich(I do not say that its wrong to be rich as Christian for there are many verses to support the benefits of giving) but I think the main thing its taught in the word that we should seek firts the kingdom of God and all things will be added to you. to cut the story short, I have learnt that in CEC there is no teaching about repentance or even sin. There is a deliberate avoidance about on teaching or even mentioning sin. even in teh Foundation School, there is absolutely no teaching about how to live, conduct yourself, dress etc as a Christian, in short the basics of being a good Christian as we were taught even by society, or even the do not fornicate or commit adultery stuff. Then of late there has been a trend of having all worldly things being doen in the Church like having worldly music and dances. and here I am not being judgemental but its at levels where even a non Christian would notice, Things like modelling/fashion show in a Church service and dances like Rhumba, salsa, in short sexual things right on the pulpit. Its a lot to elaborate here and together with the avoidance of teh Gospel of the cross but concentration on the resurrection its all leading me to think I should find a Church. A Church service can be simply made up of promotions of the various SBUs of the Church. As for the teaching, I made a deliberate effort to study and scrutinise and realised what most comments that are above have mentioned. a scripture that was meant to teach on how to liev right as a Christian is twisted to suit the good life, healing and prosperity gospel and conviniently avoid teaching on sin. You should also care to watch the live programme where questions are answered and you hear more controvesial answers like that the Bible does not mention that smoking or masturbating is bad.
Psalm 82:6 “I said, ‘You are “gods”; you are all sons of the Most High.’
John 10:34 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are gods’?
• Thanks for the enlightening words on this site. I am currently a CEC member but I am also one of those who has come to the realisation that it seems to be more of a profit orientated organisation than a Church and I am really scared that I could have wasted so much time follwoing a false teaching. I just need to correct one comment above though about the healing School. No its not true that a fee is charged, people attend free of charge.my concern though has been aroused by the facts about teachings, manipulating the bible to drive a corporat business by teaching believers that Christianity is supposed to make you rich(I do not say that its wrong to be rich as Christian for there are many verses to support the benefits of giving) but I think the main thing its taught in the word that we should seek firts the kingdom of God and all things will be added to you. to cut the story short, I have learnt that in CEC there is no teaching about repentance or even sin. There is a deliberate avoidance about on teaching or even mentioning sin. even in teh Foundation School, there is absolutely no teaching about how to live, conduct yourself, dress etc as a Christian, in short the basics of being a good Christian as we were taught even by society, or even the do not fornicate or commit adultery stuff. Then of late there has been a trend of having all worldly things being doen in the Church like having worldly music and dances. and here I am not being judgemental but its at levels where even a non Christian would notice, Things like modelling/fashion show in a Church service and dances like Rhumba, salsa, in short sexual things right on the pulpit. Its a lot to elaborate here and together with the avoidance of teh Gospel of the cross but concentration on the resurrection its all leading me to think I should find a Church. A Church service can be simply made up of promotions of the various SBUs of the Church. As for the teaching, I made a deliberate effort to study and scrutinise and realised what most comments that are above have mentioned. a scripture that was meant to teach on how to liev right as a Christian is twisted to suit the good life, healing and prosperity gospel and conviniently avoid teaching on sin. You should also care to watch the live programme where questions are answered and you hear more controvesial answers like that the Bible does not mention that smoking or masturbating is bad.
CEC member
Which church do you attend? The church in Randburg charges a fee to attend the healing school – this was a few years ago.
Jerry
No Jerry, you are reading scripture incorrectly. Read and UNDERSTAND properly and you will get the correct message. I have done an article on this.
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Jerry
… and this we shall ignore? This is what happens when we pay someone to read the Bible to us. We miss context and we twist with them.
Deu 32:39 See now that I, even I, am He, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.
Deu 32:40 For I lift up my hand to heaven, and say, I live for ever.
Deu 32:41 If I whet my glittering sword, and mine hand take hold on judgment; I will render vengeance to mine enemies, and will reward them that hate me.
>> This is what happens when we pay someone to read the Bible to us.
Haha, exactly, this is what happens…
I hope none of those disheartened by this message will leave the church. Teachings like these can lead to ‘backsliders’ who for some reason end up with a cult like group outside of the church. I urge everyone to fix things in the church so that the kingdom of God may be established in everywhere in our lives. Running away never helps, that is why everyone else is starting his own church. Are they really any different or is it just wanting to be a ‘little god’ over Gods people? Please don’t get me wrong there are many people called of God and some are doing a great job.
Maddy
>> I urge everyone to fix things in the church so that the kingdom of God may be established in everywhere in our lives.
Please provide scripture for this.
>> Running away never helps, that is why everyone else is starting his own church
Please provide scripture for this and logical biblical reasoning as to how you come to this conclusion.
>> Are they really any different or is it just wanting to be a ‘little god’ over Gods people?
Please provide scripture to support your claims.
Deborah. I am not sure about when it started but I know that the Randburg Church doesnt charge a fee. I know a lot of people, some close relatives who have gone there and they were not charged a fee. Anyway my issue was not about money, I just needed to correct the responses of some of the commentators. my issue was on the issues above where the world is coming into the Church and noone seems to have gotten my point. I do not agree with the above reader that running away doesn’t help as I certainly believe that these “Churches” (I am not sure if they qualify to be categorised as such) are very big institutions in which one very insignificant member can do anything to expose them. Religion is not democratic as you will not notice when you get to one of them. I supposed if you realise that where you are doesn’t feel like Church anymore, run and ru with your life. and yes study the word and if there are things that clearly do not comply with the word pray and seek guidance from the holy spirit (if you have not been wearied by wrong teachings already) and try to look for a Church that teaches what is consistent with the word. If more people can own up to the real guidance they get from the spirit, evil acts in the Church will be exposed. The problem is that the Church is now full of people who seek more of the world than God. As the Bible says, their own stomachs are their gods. (I am sure someone who make this righta and misquote it to justify some acts also) Debra, please look at the issues I highlighted above; I need to know if this a rend in many Churches (if thats the case then its hopeless) if not then I need to know how some level headed Christian would deal with that. I posted on another website and some of the current members found my thoughts to be carnal(that I was complainig about too many sexual inuendos in the Church.
Maddy, “little god” doctrine is a lie from satan…
… and he has the microphone here as he says…
Gen 3:5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
These kinds of argument cause pple to turn away from God .Stop confusing ppl
[deleted – it would appear that Chris O had a following of a ‘special class’ who get confused easily and who can’t think for themselves and have been told they are little god’s – you would think gods had big brains and would never get confused.]
It will not be the first time that the Word of God will be disputed. And it won’t be the last.
If Jesus said,”Isn’t it written in your law ‘ I have said ye are gods…” I do not think any man has the power to argue that.
so stop all these unnecessary arguements. What ever God has said should be the final authority in your life.
i f I call myself what God has called me, I do not see why someone else should spend their precious time trying, i mean really trying to get me not to call myself what God has called me.
Well, what matters in this life is not what people say, but what God has said. So instead of complaining, go and find out what God has said. If you are truly a christian, you wont waste your precious time analyzing the word of God, but you will accept it as God’s word!
Whether or not you like it, Pastor Chris Oyakhilome PHD has come to stay and he is putting smiles on peoples faces all over the world. my question is, “Why does that bother you?’ Are you God?!
God has given us (Christians) an assignment to go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. Have you done yours?
leave the Man alone. You will just get pained over what should not bother you. He’s got a life and he is fulfilling his God ordained call.
You go and get a life. Go and find out what God has sent you to do and do it!
If you want to be a permanent critic of pastor Chris, you will soon wear out, because He only just arrived and He’s going to be here for a very long time!!!
Spiritual pedigrees. “my people are dying because of lack of knowledge”. Take it or leave it. Tradition is deceiving many, the pharisees did the same, maybe if you would ask God about it. This pastor is not claiming to be the messiah, neither is he saying that He is Jesus Christ. Revelation here…When I am born of God, Born of the Word, Christ is in me, my body is the temple of God, the trinity of God has made It’s dwelling in me, i live in Christ and the Father. I have in me God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy spirit so what does that make me? genesis 1:27, so God created man in His own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. This doesn’t mean that we think of being equal to God, no we’re not…just hitting the facts that He is our Father and we are the Father’s juniors. As He is, so are we in this earth. Through the Word that he gave me, i now speak upon things and they become…N.B. ‘i myself speak and things become’. That simple means that He has enabled us to command because the word has been given unto us. important note, the Son of God was given the name that is above all names, in other words God the Father exalted Him to be superior over all names…but Christ is the Spirit that dwell in him. That is why the antichrist is the spirit that dwells in someone invading them to be against the kingdom of God