The Rapture – An Article to Knock Your Socks Off
The Time Has Come to debunk those errors regarding the Rapture not taking place.
I was raised in a family that followed Word of Faith teaching (yet I rebelled and went on my own left hand path at about the age of 13). When I realised I needed Jesus Christ in my life (much later in my life unfortunately) and was born again the ‘rapture’ was just part of something that I had heard about in passing – I was actually oblivious to Christian doctrine, including the doctrine of imminency.
After I was saved and battled to find churches to go too, I hit the internet in search of the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. This was where I read up about PreTribulation and also PostTribulation (where Jesus Christ returns at the end of the Great Tribulation with no rapture of the church before that) And then just to put another spanner in the works, I heard about Amillennialism. Boy, oh boy.
So I started researching the Word of God and I started my research with Amillennialism, after 10 minutes of goggling I realised that Amillennialism was completely and utterly wrong.
I then went and looked at the Post Tribulation scenario. What I found interesting was that the Post Tribulation supporters use their verses to back up this idea but exclude the verses that point to the Rapture (or being caught up where the born again Christians will meet Jesus Christ in the air before the wrath of God is meted out on earth). I read so many PostTribulation websites and studied their little diagrams and it just didn’t make sense. I emailed 2 ministries in which I included many PreTribulation (Rapture) verses in my email and asked them to include them into their articles and they refused. The reason: They had enough Biblical scripture to prove Post Tribulation without having to include vital scripture that refuted what they say. How convenient I thought.
So there I was back at Pre Tribulation, still researching and knowing deep down all along that this was correct and that Jesus Christ the Son of God is coming back SOON to take His children away. At the end of the Great Tribulation He will return a 2nd time , this time setting foot on earth and crushing the enemy.
This is the reason for my blog, to warn people because I can’t handle the fact that many people I know like family, friends will be left behind and have to face delusion, confusion, terror and utter hopelessness in their minds as to what happened and try cope with the after effects.
That very moment will be unlike anything the world has ever experienced, and it gets worse. Much worse. Mass HORROR, mass MURDER, mass TORTURE, mass INCOMPREHENSIBLE evil will take place. Matthew 24:21 “21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.”
At the same time I rejoice for I know that I am going to see Jesus Christ the Son of God, my King, my Lord, my Saviour, the ONE I love so much, the ONE who gave HIS life for me, the ONE who SAVED my life. I am going to see HIM SOON face to face. How awesome is that. I can’t wait.
We are in a time in history unlike anything ever seen before. Never in the last 10 years would I have ever thought that I would be alive to witness this. The (bride of Christ, i.e., born again Christians) being caught up to meet Jesus in the air.
Jesus said He would come when we least expect it. Generally the least expected thing happens when everything is going relatively well.
Matthew 24:37-41 37“For the coming of the Son of Man will be just like the days of Noah 38“For as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, 39and they did not understand until the flood came and took them all away; so will the coming of the Son of Man be. 40“Then there will be two men in the field; one will be taken and one will be left. 41“Two women will be grinding at the mill; one will be taken and one will be left.
Matthew 24:44 44 “For this reason you also must be ready; for the Son of Man is coming at an hour when you do not think He will.
During the rapture, Jesus Christ does NOT come down to earth. (So it is not considered His Second Coming). The dead in Christ rise first and then the body of Christ are caught up to meet Jesus Christ in the CLOUDS /AIR. 1 Thess, 4:16-18 “For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Wherefore comfort one another with these words.”
Jesus tells us that we are to COMFORT one another with this WONDERFUL passage of scripture.
Everything will happen very fast, so fast that it will be 1 Cor 15:52 “52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye…”
The bible tells us that even though we do not know exactly when Jesus is coming back to take the his church home Matthew 25:13 13“Be on the alert then, for you do not know the day nor the hour.”
He tells us to BE ON ALERT as we will see the day approaching (Biblical prophecy fulfilled) and as the day approaches we are to ENCOURAGE ONE ANOTHER. Hebrews 10:25: “25 not forsaking our own assembling together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another; and all the more as you see the day drawing near.”
So it is clear that born again Christians will know that the day that Jesus Christ returns draws nearer and nearer. If not, Jesus would not tell us to BE ON ALERT at all times and for us to watch and pray that we do not fall into temptation. Matthew 26:41 41“Keep watching and praying that you may not enter into temptation; the spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak.”
Jesus promised us He will look after us, because He paid the price for us – we are not destined for God’s wrath during the Tribulation. 1 Thessalonians 5:9, “9For God has not destined us for wrath, but for obtaining salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ”
We are NOT destined to be TESTED Revelation 3:10 10 ‘Because you have kept the word of My perseverance, I also will keep you from the hour of testing, that hour which is about to come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth.
Our focus should be on Jesus Christ our Blessed Hope and we are not be disturbed by the things going on around as. Titus 2:13 “13 looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus”
Do you fear that there is something terrible going on in the world but you do not know what it is? Do you remember someone speaking to you about Jesus and you brushed them off as talking a load of nonsense? Do you know the name of Jesus Christ in your mind, but your heart’s not interested because you prefer the ways of the world and sin? Do you want to know why you fear that there is something horrible coming this way? Do you want to change your ways and ask Jesus to forgive you for your sinful life so that you my enter God’s presence spotless.
Do you want to drop everything you are doing right now and speak to Jesus Christ the Son of God? Tell Him you are a sinner, tell Him you want to change your ways. Tell him you have disobeyed Him, but you ask for forgiveness for everything you have done and you are so sorry. Tell Jesus that you know and believe that He died on the cross for you as a sacrifice for your sin, and that He rose again 3 days later and ascended with a physical body into heaven. Tell Jesus that you want Him to come into your life, and make you a new person. Tell Jesus that you love him, honestly and truthfully with all your heart, mind and soul. Humble yourself before your KING as a sinner who does not deserve to be saved. But because of the love that God has for HIS creation, that is you, He created you. When you truly and utterly come to Jesus Christ and repent, God truly and utterly forgives you and you are saved.
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Ok,Jackson
I will answer your questions concerning the rapture.
We should live our lives as if Jesus Christ could come at any moment for his church – that’s called the doctrine of eminency. We discern the times nearing this event by what we have outlined in scripture in terms of warnings and what to look out for.
If the rapture occurs at the end of the tribulation after Jesus Christ has thoroughly given his bride a solid beating and wiped out three quarters of the church through wrath before he saves her – well, then I am sure that he can also preserve and strengthen her through that. I cannot even begin to conceive a mid-trib rapture, it is doctrinally the easiest to debunk.
Now can you answer my questions?
@ Jackson . . .
Knowing Jesus or as you put it “Faith in Jesus alone” is not good enough . . .Why? Because Demons also know Jesus and believe in Him BUT I don’t think it is going to help them in the end . . . please note the following scriptures:
Mat 8:28 And when he (Jesus) was come to the other side into the country of the Gergesenes, there met him two possessed with devils, coming out of the tombs, exceeding fierce, so that no man might pass by that way.
Mat 8:29 And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?
They knew who Jesus was and believed in Him because they knew what he was going to do to them in the end . . . If you don’t believe in someone you will not believe that he is capable of doing that which he says/proclaims he will do . . .
Act 19:15 And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye?
Jam 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
Now, Did you know that the Gospel of Salvation is not just believing in Jesus ?
Luk 24:46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:
Luk 24:47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
Luk 24:48 And ye are witnesses of these things.
Great ! I must thus also repent of my sins and only then will I recieve remission of sins . . .
Now look at the following scripture . . .
Act 16:16 And it came to pass, as we went to prayer, a certain damsel possessed with a spirit of divination met us, which brought her masters much gain by soothsaying:
Act 16:17 The same followed Paul and us, and cried, saying, These men are the servants of the most high God, which shew unto us the way of salvation.
Here we read that even the Demons know that it is a WAY of salvation . . .
The Greek word used for “way” in this scripture is -hodos- and means:
“a means, a course of conduct or a way of obtaining something through a way of life, same word in Acts 2:28; 2Pet 2:21; Sept: Prov 10:17” (Greek Word Study Dictionary; Spiros Zodhiates)
Pro 10:17 He is in the way of life that keepeth instruction: but he that refuseth reproof erreth.
God never changes . . . His is true to his word and has bound himself to it,Old and New Covenant’s.
Let us NOT make our own way or method of salvation . . like the church has already done. 🙁
>>> “Dominus Vobiscum = an ancient salutation and blessing traditionally given by priests of the Roman Catholic church during Latin masses.”
it might point to the preference(s) of this writer? …
just thought I’d point this out…
cecilia
@ Jackson . . . Sorry, I forgot to clear up your quoted scripture:
Joh 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
Here we have the “sad” situation of the English language not being able to give one word for the Equivalent word in Greek. Like in any language the meaning of a word can change depending on the sentence it is used in… eg. the word “pot” – I use a pot to cook. I plant flowers in a pot.
Ok, in this scripture the contextual meaning of the word “believe” in Greek is:
– ho pisteou – to have faith in, to trust – indicating an action of – this word should NOT be taken as the one holding onto God constantly lest he would let loose and fall. It rather indicates that once one believes, he continues to believe. the presupposition -ho- indicates the “continuous” tense – meaning, it must carry on…
(Greek Word Study Dictionary; Spiros Zodhiates)
This word “believe” is followed by the words “on Him” (ice owtos) and means: (without no going into the Greek detail and depth) to do what he did, to live like he did.
I know you might “complain” that you don’t know Greek . . . Well that is one of the reasons we have “learned” Pastors BUT unfortunately they are not doing their job.
Back to topic:
Jesus himself said:
Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
What is the Will of the Father ? For everyone to be saved ! AMEN !
How? Repent, be baptised and be filled with the Spirit of God !
Also:
Heb 10:38 Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.
Thanks – for very interesting topic :-).
Zech 13:9
13:9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It [is] my people: and they shall say, The LORD [is] my God. (KJV)
C
>> “Dominus Vobiscum = an ancient salutation and blessing traditionally given by priests of the Roman Catholic church during Latin masses.”
it might point to the preference(s) of this writer? …
Indeed.
Jean
Wonderful comments. Thank you.
C
Agree. I prefer my own zoo right here. Oh, I am not calling you or anyone else an animal, just by the way *grins sheepishly* My zoo is…oh gosh, let me stop, I’m gonna make this sound worse if I carry on trying to explain myself.
Baa-ha-ha.
Amanda
Just wait till you meet Bobs Your-Anchor. hehe
@Jean,
In Greek John 6:40 reads, “τουτο γαρ εστιν το θελημα του πατρος μου ινα πας ο θεωρων τον υιον και πιστευων εις αυτον εχη ζωην αιωνιον και αναστησω αυτον εγω | | [εν] | τη εσχατη ημερα”
There is a minor textual variation in the Westcott and Hort source but I checked the Byzantine and the Textus Receptus are identical. For clarity the variation doesn’t impact the word in question.
You said the word was pisteou. Well that’s just bad Greek. The word transliterated into English would be pisteuōn (πιστευων). The way you’ve rendered it makes it a present active indicative first person singular verb (V-PAI-1S) rather than the way Scripture intends it as a present active nominative singular masculine participle (V-PAP-NSM).
Also, and this is the weirdest of all, you can see from the text above there is no “ho” (ο) preceding pisteuōn. Your entire sentence “the presupposition -ho- indicates the “continuous” tense – meaning, it must carry on…” seems to be forfeit.
Have I missed something glaringly obvious here?
Bwhat? Bob’s my uncle? Sorry, that is Greek to me.
Mark
WOW! Now tell me, why can’t you tell the difference between meditation and prayer? And that is New Age but yet can’t see it. And I see you have a whole little article on 10 reasons why you love Mary. *has a small heart attack* And ja ja, I can see you are gonna come and try explain that it’s ‘not what you mean…’ but it’s clear that you do, you just not saying it.
Btw, my Greek is very rusty, the last time I spoke it was…well…never. And I am guessing 99.9% of the people coming here are in the same boat as me.
@Amanda,
:).
@Deborah,
You consistently shun Biblical truth that is clearly presented so that you can pass a mocking comment in my direction. You protect those who pander to you at the expense of engaging around an issue of Scripture. You have passed more jibes, sarcastic remarks and disparaging comments my way than Biblical correction.
As to the article on Mary (http://markpenrith.wordpress.com/2010/01/02/10-things-i-love-about-mary/), did you even read it?
You got me wrong so badly last time
(http://markpenrith.wordpress.com/2009/09/17/meditation-for-christians-what-it-is-and-how-to-do-it/
and
http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/12/17/mark-driscolls-resurgence-and-emergence-with-catholicism/).
Quote: Have I missed something glaringly obvious here?
Yeah, the Gospel.
Mark
>> You consistently shun Biblical truth that is clearly presented so that you can pass a mocking comment in my direction. You protect those who pander to you at the expense of engaging around an issue of Scripture. You have passed more jibes, sarcastic remarks and disparaging comments my way than Biblical correction.
I asked you under those articles again and again and again and again and again and again and again and now again just one more time. IS meditation Biblical?? I have explained myself PERFECTLY clear Mark. And I have explained scripture to you clearly and concisely. If you refuse the truth, then don’t come and blame me when you speak GREEK and I don’t understand.
>> You got me wrong so badly last time
You wish buddy ol’ pal. You called a truce with me because you condoned contemplative spirituality but can’t or refuse to see the BIBLICAL difference between meditation and biblical prayer. You would NOT give me an answer when I asked you repeatedly ‘How do you meditate over Psalms?’ As per your article you wrote on your blog on how to meditate.
So instead what do you do, you find 1 little discrepancy to argue about. Like how many times the word meditate or meditation appears in the OT or NT and Michael miscounted and then YOU my dear Mark actually CHARGED him with WILFULLY leading people astray.
Now Jean comes along and gives a pretty great comment on Pre Trib and you pick out a discrepancy on a GREEK word that….that….I actually can’t believe this. A darn word that does not change a single thing regarding the TOPIC of the RAPTURE.
As for Biblical correction. I don’t know what more to say to you to get you to understand. So I have given up on that. All I hope now is that maybe someone else’s comment will trigger something and God opens your eyes as to what NEW AGE/ OCCULT means and that you are on that road. But so far, nothing.
Are you a pastor Mark? You preach to a little congregation don’t you? I think you should stop because quite frankly you don’t have a clue as to what you really believe. And if you are not sure how can you teach others? Let me help you here: You want to believe in the Bible, but you want to add experience and feeling and the use of your senses to your worship of God. So that is exactly what you have done, and now it’s no longer Christian. It’s called New Age.
>> As to the article on Mary (markpenrith.wordpress.com/2010/01/02/10-things-i-love-about-mary), did you even read it?
Of course yes. Now the question we need to ask is. Jesus mentions her I think once in the entire NT (maybe twice, I can’t remember, it’s 4am in the morning, I am tired). But you go and find 10 reasons to mention her name, in love for her and adoration for her. She is nothing Mark. She can’t save you, she can’t hear you, she can’t do anything for you. Yes, she was Jesus’ mother and a women who’s obedience to God was beyond reproach hence God chose her to give birth to Jesus Christ the Son of God. But that’s it!
You sit on the fence Mark and you wobble a bit this way and you wobble a bit that way. You agree and disagree on the same topics. You say you don’t agree with the whole Mary worship thing, but you won’t outright condemn it either. Just like you hang around Emergent Church type blogs and then come here. Your area is grey. Make your choice Mark, cos watching you wobble from side to side is quite a sad sight to behold. And by sad I mean really sad, because all anyone can do is pray that your eyes are opened to what you are following and getting yourself involved in before it’s too late.
Jean
>> I know you might “complain” that you don’t know Greek . . . Well that is one of the reasons we have “learned”
Haaa I only noticed this now. lol. I don’t know Greek either, yet I manage to understand the English bible pretty well.
And absolutely right you are that: “that once one believes, he continues to believe…it must carry on”
That is why our relationship with Jesus Christ GROWS when we OBEY God’s Word. When you do not OBEY God’s Word you end up believing all sorts of non-biblical teachings.
Through Holy Spirit conviction ONLY, we repent of our sin (and every Christian will always repent for there is not one day that goes by where we have not sinned in some way) and because of our obedience (repenting) we GROW closer to Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit guides, councils and comforts us more.
Obedience is something we do on a continuous basis. And if you LOVE Jesus Christ with all your heart, this is something that you will want to do. You will put on the full armour of God daily as God commands every Christian do otherwise they fall by the wayside.
In the time we live in now, the spiritual attack is so strong that if you do not care to ground yourself in God’s Word you will become a statistic. One day soon 90% or more of the world’s population will all call themselves Christian; yet none of them want a Bible in their homes.
Mark,
You have a distinct ability for annoying people.
You accuse others of shunning biblical ‘truth’ and in my case ‘willfully misleading people’, yet the exact opposite applies. You come disguised in pseudo bible-scholarly garb yet you could not exegete your way out of a paper bag. If we are the ones wanting to deceive people why are there articles posted on this site recently on how to correctly interpret scripture? Do you honestly think that the Greek/Hebrew computer program your mother bought you for XMAS gives you some monopoly on biblical interpretation?
You do realise that when readers post here it makes them to research and get thinking about biblical content – the admin’s job is not to give them pass/fail marks on grammar but rather to encourage people to think for themselves. (In fact there was nothing wrong with the grammar, you invent new ways of finding error).You dude, are like the child in the neighbourhood that has no one to play with so you prowl the neighbour’s backyards to see what toys you can destroy.
What is really going on here is that you want to play with, you think we are all playing a game of ‘finding error’ so you come and join with your perverted version of fault finding. This is not a game dude, some of the heresies exposed here are highly destructive, many of the teachings exposed here have eternal consequences.
You really have this irking quality that when you compliment someone you insult them at the same time. You talk about ‘biblical correction’ – what that really means is anyone that disagrees with your one-dimensional way of interpretation which is based on a mountain of presuppositions. It is absolutely astounding: you purposely ripped a scripture out of context in a previous post that completely changed the meaning of that verse and to divert attention from that you accuse me of wilfully misleading people because I miscounted how many times the instances on mediation/prayer were found in the bible, when that was not even the point. You fooled no one but yourself.
Dude, you were extremely childish then, this meaningless greek adventure of yours only proves my point further. You have missed the Gospel of Jesus Christ and the whole counsel of God – which is the whole point of the direction this topic took – with nonsense. Perhaps you should work on you English skills and more specifically; on expressing clear, understandable English to people before you venture into greek.
Captain, over and out.
Mark
While you are in the discernment mood, re-read what Mr. Trickster the Third wrote on your blog:
Now that is a camel size problem. Won’t you help the poor man out?
Phew…this is interesting.
Whoa! I thought this was over, and had stopped checking back. Today I came back to test a scrolling add-on to Firefox and discovered all this! Due to the sheer volume of material for me to go through I’m going to write a blog post and give the link here when I’m done.
(Before you suggest that I post it in parts here; in-between writing the parts you would continue to tear in to the previous ones. Unless someone owns a forum that we could use, [Forums being made to do this, blog comments; not.] I offer the forum at Freedom836.com, [I can make Deborah a mod if that would soften the loss of control from it moving off the site, if that’d be a remote problem problem.] )
One thing I will address here is “Dominus Vobiscum”, I was unaware that it was used by the catholic church, so I used if (and will continue to do so) completely innocently of such affiliations. (Deborah: you will have observed the same salutation in my email.) The best translation I’m aware of is “May the Lord be with you”, to which I commonly attach (when appropriate) “Amicum”, or “Amichi” meaning “friend” or “friends” respectively.
So, to conclude:
Dominus Vobiscum:
Jackson
Jackson
Sorry I saw your email the day before yesterday but did not get time to respond and yesterday I was not online.
No, please don’t make me a mod there. But thanks anyhow. I have enough to handle this side. People can comment there and come here if they wish. No problem for me. I am not concerned what people say outside of this blog.
As for the dominus vobiscum. not to worry we all do and say things sometimes without knowing. But when we find out the truth we try our best not to do it again for example: Just like finding out that ‘following’ Jesus is not enough, you need to abide by His Word at all times. So in this instance you will go and test what I say to the Word of God, as God comments everyone to TEST what we hear, and then do something about it 🙂
PS, I believe Jesus Christ the Son of God will come and rapture born again Christians before the tribulation. A born again Christian makes up the true body of Christ (not the fake Church where people just call themselves Christian and think that makes them one). A genuinely saved Christian adheres to the Word of God and has the Holy Spirit abide in them. A born again Christian does not follow after ‘a’ Christ thinking it’s Jesus Christ but instead a deception deliberately placed there to deceive.
The message that is being preached today is about just ‘following’ Jesus and not HIS Word. Just do what He did and you will be A-OK. So you can kinda put His Word aside and just ‘believe’. The problem is, when you believe in Jesus Christ the first thing the Holy Spirit (who has come to abide in you) will do is make you pick up that Bible and study it and He will remove any misconceptions and lies you have been taught along the way by false teachers.
Deborah
You ROCK..! O sorry! That’s not quite biblical but you get what I mean. I’m also non-denominational (if there is such a thing)
Like you said: “you can have no church building and the saved stay at home because it’s pointless going to church to hear rubbish being spoken.”
Such a shame though! It is truly becoming a lonely place on earth as most people are so blind they can’t even see them selves!
Cheers
Lourens
I could not help to think about this
Quote from A Toser. It is called the Saint must walk alone.
“The pain of loneliness arises from the constitution of our nature. God made us for each other. The desire for human companionship is completely natural and right. The loneliness of the Christian results from his walk with God in an ungodly world, a walk that must often take him away from the fellowship of good Christians as well as from that of the unregenerate world. His Godgiven instincts cry out for companionship with others of his kind, others who can understand his longings, his aspirations, his absorption in the love of Christ; and because within his circle of friends there are so few who share his inner experiences he is forced to walk alone. The unsatisfied longings of the prophets for human understanding caused them to cry out in their complaint, and even our Lord Himself suffered in the same way.”
Blessings
Lourens
>> Such a shame though! It is truly becoming a lonely place on earth as most people are so blind they can’t even see them selves!
I know, it’s very lonely. It’s taken me almost 3 years to find just a handful of genuinely saved Christians. And boy do I only have stories to tell of those who my husband and I met who said they were Christian and even had us fooled for a good while.
And then there were the ones we met who were very quick to jump down our throats when I mentioned something that they completely disagreed with – usually this would happen after they tried to lay hands and burst forth in unknown tongues. Commanding Jesus in His Name to sort out all our problems right there and then.
Quite frankly I prefer the honest ones, least we know what’s really going on. haha
@ Lourens . . . Take heart my friend and be glad that your name is not Noah or Lot. Look at Moses . . . They where all “loners” BUT they had a relationship with God ! Paul did not have it easy either! After all his hard labor and near the end of his ministry he writes this to Timothy: 2Tim 1:15 “You know that everyone in the province of Asia has deserted me, including Phygelus and Hermogenes.”
The best example is however Jesus. He was forsaken by ALL men and then by God also !
If you really want to read a good book on this then go here:
http://www.worldinvisible.com/library/tozer/5j00.0010/5j00.0010.c.htm
It is a Free online book. The Book is called:
“Man: Dwelling place of God”
Awesome book and in chapter 39 the quote as quoted by Elmari appears. He then expounds greatly on this subject and really gives you something to hold onto !
Go for it!
Hi Debs
I have noticed that You continue to share that meditation is against the Bible. I am compelled to repeat that we often find the Truth on the path we choose to avoid it, as it is the Truth that we are focussed on, and the Truth always stands. All of Scripture is Truth.
That said I have noticed you are investigating a bit more.
Blessings to you
MH
@Jean
Well said! Thanks guys, I am learning so much from all of you.
God Bless
Merry
>> I have noticed that You continue to share that meditation is against the Bible.
Keep noticing cos it wont stop.
>> I am compelled to repeat that we often find the Truth on the path we choose to avoid it,
I’ll stick to my narrow path thank you – the path that is Jesus Christ the Son of God. I avoid all other paths that lead to destruction.
>> That said I have noticed you are investigating a bit more.
I have no idea what you mean by that comment.
Yip!
Thanks guys for all the kind words. You make me feel even more lonely.. lol! 😉
Luckily I have learned all this during the last 8 years of being a lonely voice among the hundreds of “christians” I have met. The only sad part is that I only found this site about 2 months ago. It’s absolutely wonderful to see that God still keeps people informed. That’s if they want the truth!
If only more people would get down on their knees in real seriousness & ask God to REVEAL HIS TRUTH to them and not some persons opinion in a book; dvd or bible school or university theology class. Doing that will allow many people to understand this site MUCH better.
I sent out an email the other day regarding old Angus. Whew! Did I get hammered for that one. But hey: Truth is TRUTH!
Did any of you watch the “Passion of Christ” years ago? I sent out a mail on that too and it was amazing how devastatingly blind MOST “christian’s” are.
Deborah, if you like you can contact me by email and I’ll send it to you, as taking your site into consideration it will truly make for some great discussion & revelation
Cheers
Serve God with all your heart, soul and all your might!
P.s You know the creator of us all; the God of the Bible; The God who became flesh, died and rose again. Nowadays you have to be sure who we are talking about as there’s another jesus, gospel & spirit working in the earth.