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Pre-Trib – Suppressing the Truth in Unrighteousness

Left Behind or led astray - Pre-TribPRE-TRIB:  SUPPRESSING THE TRUTH IN UNRIGHTEOUSNESS  (UPDATED – See Addendum)

In this article, which is a follow-up of “PreTrib Rapture vs PostTrib Rapture” I aim to discuss the many questions I asked the No Pre-Trib crowd, Scott Pruitt among them, which by the way, they refused to answer and eventually summarily banned me from their blogs and YouTube channels.

Romans 1:18

For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;  (KJV)

For [God does not overlook sin and] the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who in their wickedness suppress and stifle the truth,  (AMP)

Margaret MacDonald’s Vision: Pre-Trib? Really?

Margaret MacDonald's visionMargaret MacDonald’s Vision: Pre-Trib? Really?

I get a lot of emails and comments by people that believe there will be no pre-tribulation rapture and point me to the so called Pre-Trib vision by Margaret MacDonald that was made known by Dave MacPherson in his book called “The Incredible Cover-up”, pp. 151-157. 1975

Wikipedia says this about Margaret MacDonald

“Margaret MacDonald was born in 1815 in Port Glasgow, Scotland and died around 1840.[1] She lived with her two older brothers, James and George, both of whom ran a shipping business.[1] Beginning in 1826 and through 1829, a few preachers in Scotland emphasized that the world’s problems could only be addressed through an outbreak of supernatural gifts from the Holy Spirit.[2] In response, Isabella and Mary Campbell of the parish of Rosneath manifested charismatic experiences such as speaking in tongues. Around 1830, miraculous healings were reported through James Campbell, first of his sister Margaret MacDonald and then of Mary Campbell (through James’s letter to Mary).[3] Shortly thereafter James and George MacDonald manifested the speaking and interpretations of tongues, and soon others followed suit in prayer meetings. These charismatic experiences garnered major national attention. Many came to see and investigate these events. Some, such as Edward Irving and Henry Drummond, regarded these events as genuine displays from the Holy Spirit. Others, including John Nelson Darby and Benjamin Wills Newton, whom the Brethren sent on their behalf to investigate, came to the conclusion that these displays were demonic.[4]


Pre-Trib Rapture vs Post-Trib Rapture

Left Behind or Led Astray: Pre-Trib Rapture vs Post-Trib Rapture

The Left Behind Movie starring Nicolas Cage (a Freemason) opened in theaters on October 3, 2014. To counter the false teaching of pre-tribulationism.



Pre-Trib Rapture vs Post-Trib Rapture:  Factions and divisions have always been commonplace among Christians. How do we know this? Paul himself wrote:

“For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it. For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.” (1 Corinthians 11:18-19)

Paul sincerely sought to foster a harmonious unity among the members of the church but knew that the perpetual presence of sin made it virtually impossible to unify the church under every single doctrine given to the church.

One of the doctrines that came under constant attack by false teachers was the imminent return of Jesus Christ at the Pre-Trib Rapture. Hence his serious warning against false teachers in 2 Thessalonians 2.

Caught Up By Jesus Christ Or Caught By A False Christ

Caught Up By Jesus Christ Or Caught By A False ChristThe Tribulation and the Rapture (being Caught up)

In some of his last words of the 1st Epistle to the (1 Thess 5:23) the apostle Paul prays, “And may the God of peace sanctify you completely, and may your whole spirit, and soul, and body be preserved blameless unto the Coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.” His teaching of the coming of Christ was imminent as he taught the church to be blameless in their body as well as the spirit anticipating his appearance.

In 1st Thessalonians chapter 5 Paul gave a contrast of believers and non-believers natures (1 Thess 5:5). The unsaved have a nature of darkness (they are of the night and darkness) they walk in darkness. Church saints have the nature of light (we are sons of the light, of the day) Christ and the Word is our light, so when we obey we are walking in the light. So we should not sleep as they do. Paul exhorts the believers to put on the breastplate of faith and love to live through the hard times. Also (1 Thess 5:8) “as a helmet, the hope of salvation.” The reason for this hope he explains is God has not appointed us “the Church” to wrath (1 Thess 5:9). He has already explained the resurrection in chapter 4 the teaching is now about the Day of the Lord (judgment). God has not appointed the Church to the Lord’s wrath. Instead the Church is appointed to obtain salvation, deliverance from that wrath (the tribulation) that is coming on the world culminating in Christ’s coming.

Prof Johan Malan – A Gospel of Works – The Error of Partial Rapture (Part 4)

Prof Johan Malan -A Gospel of WorksProf  Johan Malan has over the years publish articles pointing out the doctrinal errors of others, so we here at DTW believe he should not be upset if we take a look at his beliefs.

4) Prof Johan Malan believes in a Partial Rapture

Prof Malan states:

“7. It separates true and nominal Christians

Apart from the division that the rapture will effect between the saved and unsaved people in the world, it will also separate the true believers from the nominal Christians within the church. Those who only have a form of godliness will be left behind. This fate will befall them despite the fact that they may have regarded themselves as members of the church of Christ, like the foolish virgins also did. Only after the rapture will many of them discover the absence of the regenerating power of the Holy Spirit in their lives. Although they can still put matters straight then, the Bridegroom will not open the door to them by way of a second rapture, much as they may desire it and urgently knock on heaven’s door. They will have to remain outside in the cold, face the dark days of the tribulation, and be prepared to die as martyrs for their faith.

The Pre-Tribulation Rapture (Part 2)

The-Rapture_thumb.jpgPosttribulationists believe that the church will go through the Tribulation to purge her of impurities and will be raptured at the end of the seven year tribulation when Christ returns to the earth at His Second Advent to meet Him half way in the air only to return immediately to the earth to reign with Him during His Millennial Kingdom. In analyzing this system it will become obvious that its viewpoints are based on a set of denials of the Pretribulationist view instead of on a positive exposition of Scripture.

In order to place the church in the Tribulation which Jeremiah specifically called “the time of Jacob’s trouble” (Jeremiah 30: 7) they must deny dispensationalism and all dispensational distinctions. Consequently they must deny all distinctions between Israel and the church as well as God’s distinctive programs for each one.

The Pre-Tribulation Rapture (Part 1)


The RaptureMany Christians argue that the doctrine of the Rapture is not important because it has very little or nothing to do with one’s salvation. This is not entirely true. Although belief or non-belief in the doctrine of the Rapture do not constitute whether one is saved or not (faith alone in the finished work of Christ on the cross constitutes salvation – Mark 16:16; Acts 16:31; Romans 1:16; Ephesians 2:8), it does have a considerable bearing on your hope in a world that is exponentially falling ever deeper into an abyss of godlessness and anarchy. Moreover, the Rapture encapsulates to perfection the saints’ uttermost salvation (Hebrews 7:25).

Whenever the Bible speaks of hope it very often does so in reference to the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ (1 John 1:1-3; 1 Peter 1:13; Titus 2:13). One of the most important duties of a child of God, apart from his responsibility to preach the unadulterated Word of God so that lost sinners may be saved, is to watch in preparedness for the coming of the Lord at the Rapture. This is the glorious hope of all believers who love his appearing at the Rapture (2 Timothy 4:8).

Reformed theologians (Calvinists), who uphold Augustine’s a-millennial view of God’s Kingdom on earth (and hence the Roman Catholic exposition of the Millennial Kingdom) as he explicated it in his book “The City of God,” believe that the Millennial Kingdom is not a literal 1000 years with Christ reigning from the throne of his father David in Jerusalem (Luke 1:31-32) but a symbolic one.

The little more than 2000 years that have elapsed since the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus are symbolic of the reign of Christ in heaven together with his church on earth, they dare say. J Dwight  Pentecost says the following of the decline of Premillennialism In his book “Things to come:”


Jacob Prasch – Twisting Scripture the Midrash Way

Shadows of the Beast- Jacob Prasch

Shadows of the Beast:  Jacob Prasch – Twisting Scripture the Midrash Way

So I bought the book, “Shadows of the Beast” by Jacob Prasch and didn’t really make it past the Prologue.  I was kinda horrified at a number of things.  I will begin to list them in this article.  To start off with, Jacob Prasch is anti Pre-Tribulational rapture and bases his whole ‘idea‘ on the premise that Jesus won’t come back and Rapture the church until the anti-Christ makes himself known in the middle of the Tribulation.  He uses this verse as his only backup:  (2 Thessalonians 2:3)  “Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;”

The problem is, Jacob is not telling us the truth, because if you go and read from the beginning of the chapter you find out that Paul is speaking to the Thessalonians, not about the Rapture, but about ‘the day of the Lord’.

2 Thessalonians 2:1-3
1  Now regarding the arrival of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to be with him, we ask you, brothers and sisters,
2  not to be easily shaken from your composure or disturbed by any kind of spirit or message or letter allegedly from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord is already here.
3  Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not arrive until the rebellion comes and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction.

When will the Rapture Happen?

When will the rapture happenWhen will the Rapture Happen?

By Vernon Grey

[Please note: We are not setting a date. This is just a ‘guestimate‘.  As Christians you are to be ready for Jesus’ return at any moment.]

With all the hype surrounding 2012, it seems like everyone has an opinion of when the Rapture will take place and Tribulation will begin.

Theories abound. Some are plausible and Biblically well thought out;  and others are simply not worth exploring.

[NOTE: Just so that we are clear at the outset, this writer is unashamedly premillennial and pretrib in doctrine.]

The Rapture

No one seems to understand that the rapture is signless.

As a result there is not one single sign that is be given whereby we can predict to the day and the hour when the Rapture will happen.

(Except perhaps for the sounding of a trumpet.)

Not Wrath, but Rapture – Will the Church Participate in the Great Tribulation?

Rapture - Four HorsemenThere is an onslaught by Satan on snatching believers away from The Blessed Hope.  This onslaught is so intense that hardly anyone believes in a pre-tribulation rapture anymore, and if you do believe that Jesus would dare come and fetch His Church before the tribulation starts you are branded a heretic for something as sincere as doing exactly as Jesus told us to do, “watch and pray”.

Satan is turning the Christians attention to the world, where Jesus wants your attention turned to Him waiting for Him to rescue us as He did Noah before the flood.

Now-a-days every so called Christian is moving in the direction of either Pre-millennialism/Post-tribulation (rapture takes place at the end of the tribulation, this view is based on Replacement theology as there is no distinction between the Church and Israel), Post-millennialism (an interpretation of chapter 20 of the Book of Revelation which sees Christ’s second coming as occurring after the Millennium – this view is rare. ), Preterist (interprets prophecies of the Bible, especially Daniel and Revelation, as events which have already happened in the first century A.D.), or an Amillenial view (rejection of the theory that Jesus Christ will have a thousand-year long, physical reign on the earth).

The Rapture – An Article to Knock Your Socks Off

RaptureThe Time Has Come to debunk those errors regarding the Rapture not taking place.

I was raised in a family that followed Word of Faith teaching (yet I rebelled and went on my own left hand path at about the age of 13).  When I realised I needed Jesus Christ in my life (much later in my life unfortunately) and was born again the ‘rapture’ was just part of something that I had heard about in passing – I was actually oblivious to Christian doctrine, including the doctrine of imminency.

After I was saved and battled to find churches to go too, I hit the internet in search of the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.  This was where I read up about PreTribulation and also PostTribulation (where Jesus Christ returns at the end of the Great Tribulation with no rapture of the church before that)  And then just to put another spanner in the works, I heard about Amillennialism.  Boy, oh boy.

So I started researching the Word of God and I started my research with Amillennialism, after 10 minutes of goggling I realised that Amillennialism was completely and utterly wrong.