The Positive and The Negative of a One World Religion

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The Positive and The Negative of a One World Religion

They tell you its all good, they tell you it’s all about peace, love and joy.  They tell you the message they are spreading is one of change, transformation.  We have to under no uncertain terms create peace on earth – no uncertain terms.  We need to save the earth, because we as a human race are going to be living in this world for a long, long time.  And we can’t continue fighting amongst each other.  The main culprit for all the conflict is religion.  And the only way to fix this problem is to merge all the major faiths together.   But they had to find the central common denominator of each religion to be able to unite them together.  It’s Christ.

They say that the Christians await their Christ, Jews are still awaiting the Messiah, Hindus are anticipating the coming of Krishna, Muslims are expecting the Imam Mahdi and Buddhists await the Fifth (Maitreya) Buddha.  They say all these ‘Christ’s’ are actually one and the same.  Therefore ALL religions lead to the same God – So what are we fighting about?

Roman Catholicism and a One World Religion

Besides the multiple horrendus problems with the above so called brilliant concept there is one BIG factor that needs to be taken into consideration.  The Christians they speak of here are Roman Catholics who are not genuine Christians.  Their Christ is the Eucharist Christ who is permanently nailed to a cross, never coming off and being sacrificed repeatedly, the mother is Mary or Isis (Goddess of Fertility) and their God is Mithra the Sun God.   The born again Christians await Jesus Christ the Son of God – The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.   So technically yes, the Roman Catholics do await their Christ which is the same Christ as all other religions out there – EXCEPT truly born again Christians….

The genuine Christian’s Saviour is Jesus Christ the Son of God, King of Kings as written in the Bible and IS NOT the same Christ we are called to accept by the ‘new’ one world religion that is taking over this earth (or should I say has already overtaken the earth).  We are told we are in a New Age, a New Dawn, everything is Emerging and merging.  We are told that we can turn this world around.  If we come together as one global community we can make this change.  There will be peace, love and joy.  We need to understand that we are all connected.  We are brothers and sisters.  If one is suffering then we are all suffering.  If Africa is suffering then it’s a ‘measuring stick’ that the rest of the world is not in good shape.

Sharing (or service to humanity) IS all a One World Religion needs

We need to share.  But it’s not about sharing the truth, the Gospel of Jesus Christ as per what is written in the Word of God.  It’s not about saving souls for Jesus Christ anymore; it’s now ALL about sharing and giving to your brother and your sister.  We need to show love and compassion by doing good works; feeding the poor, giving blankets to all who are cold, provide housing to everyone that they may have a roof over their heads, dig wells to provide water and stop emitting carbon so as to reverse climate change.  We have to do this, because this is our world, our ‘mother’ earth.

But we can’t do this on our own, we need help.  Help from The Christ himself.  We do this through contemplative spirituality.  The message of salvation where you need to repent of your own individual sin and accept Jesus Christ the Son of God by believing that He died for us, that our souls will be saved thereby receiving eternal life no longer applies.   There is also no such thing as sin anymore, and preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ which wholly includes the message of repentance of sin is now completely taboo.

This Christ comes bearing gifts for all;  knowledge, health, love, peace, joy, food, water, education, a message of hope for mankind.  A message that we can be higher than what we think we are.  We can achieve so much more than we think.  This message however is now where to be found in the Bible, unless of course you take the Word of God and twist what it says for your own ideologies.

Instead the new gospel is a one pager on how to connect with the Christ inside you.  It will tell you how to go about choosing a place where you feel content and a place where you will achieve silence.  The choosing of a mantra or sound etc., that you will repeat over and over again which will allow you to enter into a trace, the posture you will sit in so as to allow maximum energy flow between the charkas, a technique on how to breath efficiently and how to clear your mind of all thoughts, especially negative ones  – you will never be able to hear God if you are thinking, walk a labyrinth, stop thinking!

This will help you in your quest to join a One World Religion:

  • Transcend the world  (transcend human/physical boundaries and move to a higher spiritual level)
  • Experience more happiness in your life
  • Recognize the divinity within all people  (you will be able to recognize The Christ in other people – They say you will be able to recognise ‘Jesus’  in other people)
  • Remember your divine nature (meditation will help you remember that you are not really human but have a divine nature, god-like)
  • Use the business of the world to awaken (you will use earthly things and ideas to help awaken humanity to their destiny of being gods and having the power to create a Kingdom of God on earth)
  • Develop more consistency with your spiritual practices (once you connect with your inner god-self (the god in you) you will find yourself reaching higher levels of spirituality much easier with less effort.)
  • See the world through God’s eyes (you will see the world through ‘Gods’ eyes because you youself are a god)
  • Understand the connection between being and creation (You will understand that the earth, animals, plants and humans are all connected and if one of them is suffering then mankind as a whole is suffering)
  • Fulfill your life’s purpose (your life’s purpose is to help create the Kingdom of God on earth and rule as a god, you can be a king in your kingdom)
  • Experience your divine innocence (being a god means that there is no such thing as sin, for a god can’t sin.  You are therefore innocent and free)
  • Recognize your holiness  (you are holy because you are a god)
  • Discover your divine gifts (gods always come with divine gifts;  healing, compassion, love, etc.,)
  • Uncover your heart’s desire  (you will find that your heart’s desire will be entirely focused on peace and building the Kingdom of God on earth)
  • See the presence of God in all things (God is all, and all is in God – pantheism, panentheism)
  • Experience Oneness (you are a god, you are one with the universe – cosmic Elohim.  Note this ‘Elohim’ is NOT the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob)
  • Live heaven on earth (instead of being evacuated from earth as the Word of God speaks about constantly, you no longer need to believe this because earth will become your domain.  You will rule the earth as a god.)
  • Strengthen your creativity (become very creative at finding clever ways to network (using the businesses of the world) so as to help spread the message and teach employers and their staff the techniques of finding inner peace)
  • Let go of unnecessary rules on your spiritual path (let go the Word of God, throw it away for the Bible is completely unnecessary.  But you will take on the Golden Rule:  Positive connotation – do to others what you would like to be done to you, Negative connotation – do not do to others what you would not like to be done to you)
  • Develop more consistently with your meditation practice (again, the more you practice the more you get closer to hearing the voice of God. So the more you practice the more you will transform and reach higher levels of enlightenment,  like climbing a ladder.)
  • Experience Enlightenment [1] (all of the above, you progress in levels, until you reach the ultimate enlightenment, ultimate illumination)

Instead of preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ we are to now to make friends with everyone and drink coffee until we are bouncing off the walls. We need to build relationships because that’s what Christ did; well that’s what the One World Religion-ers tell us.  They tell us Jesus went around building relationships.  He debated, He never rebuked anyone.  He never once asked anyone to repent of their sin.  He never once got angry and turned over the tables in the temple.  In fact there was so much love going around that they were not even sure he was crucified and if he was crucified is was not anything as bad as the Bible makes it out to be.  Some Emergent (New Age teachers) even say that Jesus’ body was eaten by dogs.  Some say that Jesus was an illegitimate child, Mary was a whore and was raped by Roman soldiers – as Jesus grew up he could not explain the fact that he did not have a father so made up a story that his father was God.

The blasphemy, the absolute disgusting, evil words that spews out of people’s mouths.

They mock and insult Jesus Christ, our King of All Kings, our Lord and Saviour, the God who will bring JUDGEMENT on mankind for their wickedness.  The people of this world will gather at Armageddon in an attempt to try show God what they are supposedly made of, but in the process are wiped out so quickly they won’t even know what hit them.

The One World Religion followers just can’t understand why we (genuine Christians) don’t want to attend their gatherings and bowling evenings.  When we don’t accept the invitations we are told we are being negative, and negativity is just not a good thing.  Negativity breeds hostility.

So my question is:  What do you call HOSTILITY towards the One and Only Living God who sent His ONLY begotten Son to save the world? 

It’s laughable! 

A One World Religion and it’s positives and negatives

It’s only positive when the One World Religion followers say it’s positive.  Otherwise it’s 100% negative.  Insulting Jesus Christ is considered positive.

Positivity as per the New Age dictionary = love all who follow a message other than the Word of God.  Reject Biblical teaching thereby denying Jesus Christ.
Negativity as per the New Age dictionary = those who cause division instead of unity and follow the Word of God and refuse to deny Jesus Christ 

James 4:4

4 You adulteresses, do you not know that friendship with the world is hostility toward God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.


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[1] http://www.thevoiceforlove.com
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Deborah Ellish is the author of the above article. Discerning the World is an internet Christian Ministry based in Johannesburg South Africa. Tom Lessing and Deborah Ellish both own Discerning the World. For more information see the About this Website page below the comments section.

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Chad
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Chad

SInce you are quoting me I will assume you will allow me to speak for myself?

Yes, we do proclaim a different gospel from *you.* This is not to say it is a “false gospel” or one that does not save or is different from the Bible. It just happens to be that we come to different conclusions about what the core of Scripture teaches and what Jesus commands of us.

You mock the rule of love. In so doing you mock Christ himself. When Jesus was asked what the greatest commandment was he reduced EVERYTHING to love: Love God with all your heart, soul and mind and your neighbor as yourself. On this ALL the law and the prophets hang.

Paul reduced EVERYTHING to love – without love you are nothing, just a clanging gong (1 Cor. 13).

You claim peace and love cannot overcome sin and death? Christ himself disagrees with you. His message was one of peace and love and his death on the cross proves God’s love toward us and God’s refusal to bring about redemption through the means of this world (coercion, hate, violence, lies, pride, etc).

I count it as a sign we are on the right path to be considered “different” from you and the “gospel” proclaimed on this site. It is one of fear and hate. Love casts out all fear.

I hope you all come to know the joy and the peace and the love that is in Christ Jesus, the one who brought GOOD NEWS!

Eugene Roberts
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Amanda,

I see the comment I was refering to is #31 now. WordPress is really deurmekaar.

Deborah asked me not to comment here anymore and I want to respect that so if you don’t mind I can respond to your comment somewhere else (Nic’s, Chad’s or my blog) or Deborah can forward my email to you.

Deborah, you are welcome just to forward my email address to Amanda and delete this comment if you want to.

May the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you.
Eugene

Discerning The World
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Discerning The World

hahaha, it just get’s funnier and funnier. “You mock the rule of love” bwwahahahaha oh my goodness gracious me. Well least we don’t mock, insult, ridicule, degrade, rip and tear up the Word of God as you twist and mix the Bible with this teaching, and mash it with that teaching.

Sorry….this was a killer….You mock the Rule of Love….*rolling on floor laughing*

Matthew 16:26

26 “For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul? Or what will a man give in exchange for his soul?

Amanda
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Amanda

And a ruler asked him, “Good Teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?” And Jesus said to him, “Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone. You know the commandments: ‘Do not commit adultery, Do not murder, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honor your father and mother.'” And he said, “All these I have kept from my youth.” When Jesus heard this, he said to him, “One thing you still lack. Sell all that you have and distribute to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.”
(Luk 18:18-22)

The ruler asked: What must I do? The answer is that you must keep the Law to inherit eternal life. You must keep it perfectly in thought, word and deed every day of your life and you shall have eternal life. One look of lust and you are doomed. There are no second chances. You break the Law and the sentence is death. A good deed here and there do not cancel the punishment for murder.

“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished. Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. “You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not murder; and whoever murders will be liable to judgment.’ But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother will be liable to judgment; whoever insults his brother will be liable to the council; and whoever says, ‘You fool!’ will be liable to the hell of fire.
(Mat 5:17-22)

“You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
(Mat 5:27-28)

Yes, the Law is perfect and it demands perfect obedience. Not ‘try a little harder next time’. Perfect obedience. That is not good news. It produces Pharisees (emergents) who think they are pulling it off or it produces despair. The emergents claim ‘the rule of love’ and point to their superior good deeds. They even demonstrate it by coming here and blessing those who ‘persecutes’ them. But the Law does not save. It condemns.

Now we know that whatever the law says it speaks to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be stopped, and the whole world may be held accountable to God. For by works of the law no human being will be justified in his sight, since through the law comes knowledge of sin.
(Rom 3:19-20)

The purpose of the Law is to show your guilt. The Law is not Good News. The Law does not produce love, as the emergents will discover. The Law kills as it is supposed to do. In their quest to include everybody and be more loving than God, the emergents fall back on the Law and reduce it to something everybody can keep by showing a little love to someone.

His message was one of peace and love

A different Jesus.

and his death on the cross proves God’s love toward us

How? What was accomplished on the cross?

and God’s refusal to bring about redemption through the means of this world (coercion, hate, violence, lies, pride, etc).

Did it not please the Lord to crush his Son on the cross? Did Jesus Christ not die a violent death?

It just happens to be that we come to different conclusions about what the core of Scripture teaches and what Jesus commands of us.

Agreed. And your conclusions are wrong. Only the Gospel of Jesus Christ dying on the cross for my sins and giving me His righteousness, can save and that is the same Gospel that produces love in me, not the Law.

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Discerning The World

Biblical scripture regarding the Emergent Rule/Law of Love or justification by good works (law)

Galatians 3:19-25.

19 Why then the law? It was added because of transgressions, until the offspring would come to whom the promise had been made; and it was ordained through angels by a mediator.
20 Now a mediator involves more than one party; but God is one.
21 Is the law then opposed to the promises of God? Certainly not! For if a law had been given that could make alive, then righteousness would indeed come through the law.
22 But the scripture has imprisoned all things under the power of sin, so that what was promised through faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe.
23 Now before faith came, we were imprisoned and guarded under the law until faith would be revealed.
24 Therefore the law was our disciplinarian until Christ came, so that we might be justified by faith.
25 But now that faith has come, we are no longer subject to a disciplinarian.

Discerning The World
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Discerning The World

And another: Biblical scripture regarding the Emergent Rule/Law of Love or justification by good works (law)

Galatians 2:15-21

15 We ourselves are Jews by birth and not Gentile sinners;
16 yet we know that a person is justified not by the works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ. And we have come to believe in Christ Jesus, so that we might be justified by faith in Christ, and not by doing the works of the law, because no one will be justified by the works of the law.
17 But if, in our effort to be justified in Christ, we ourselves have been found to be sinners, is Christ then a servant of sin? Certainly not!
18 But if I build up again the very things that I once tore down, then I demonstrate that I am a transgressor.
19 For through the law I died to the law, so that I might live to God. I have been crucified with Christ;
20 and it is no longer I who live, but it is Christ who lives in me. And the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me.
21 I do not nullify the grace of God; for if justification comes through the law, then Christ died for nothing.

Discerning The World
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Discerning The World

What does 1 Law/rule do to a person? to the world?

1) The Law was there to identify sin as transgression against God. In fact by having law it did more than identify sin, it condemned those who did these acts.
2) Faith in Jesus Christ the Only Begotten Son of God means freedom from the condemnation that the law automatically brings
3) The Law was only for a certain period of time and was removed when faith came, when Jesus Christ came – therefore to continue to live under the law would place you back under Law – back to the time BEFORE Jesus Christ came.

Of course Jesus Christ coming to fulfill the law and replace it with faith (Himself) does not mean the entire world is automatically saved. You need to genuinely believe in Jesus Christ and obey the Word of God – REPENTANCE of sin. Good fruit will automatically come and grow when you are born again for God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit are nothing but Holy!

However there is another ‘Christ’ one that puts mankind back under law where you are bound to be condemned by God because by keeping the law you law expose yourself as a transgressor and without repentance you are doomed.

Tough message, tough love.

Discerning The World
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Discerning The World

Oh I’m confused lol…do you wanna repost it in the right place and then I’ll delete the old one.

Chad
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Chad

Amanda,
Machen is quite brilliant. We used his books to learn Greek in undergrad.

You greatly misunderstand, however, what he is saying here and you also confuse the liberalism of his day with what emergent Christianity is. They are very different.

As for stories, do you find Jesus “sad” that he related the message of the Kingdom through countless stories or parables?

There used to be a time in the Christian life where testimonies abounded. That is something emergents are tapping in to. It is good that we have a story to share, don’t you agree? We confess we have the greatest and truest story ever told in Jesus.

Amanda
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Amanda

Sorry. I messed up. I commented on this comment at 18. I think.

Amanda
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Amanda

And a ruler asked him, “Good Teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?” And Jesus said to him, “Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone. You know the commandments: ‘Do not commit adultery, Do not murder, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honor your father and mother.’” And he said, “All these I have kept from my youth.” When Jesus heard this, he said to him, “One thing you still lack. Sell all that you have and distribute to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.”
(Luk 18:18-22)

The ruler asked: What must I do? The answer is that you must keep the Law to inherit eternal life. You must keep it perfectly in thought, word and deed every day of your life and you shall have eternal life. One look of lust and you are doomed. There are no second chances. You break the Law and the sentence is death. A good deed here and there do not cancel the punishment for murder.

“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished. Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. “You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not murder; and whoever murders will be liable to judgment.’ But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother will be liable to judgment; whoever insults his brother will be liable to the council; and whoever says, ‘You fool!’ will be liable to the hell of fire.
(Mat 5:17-22)

“You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
(Mat 5:27-28)

Yes, the Law is perfect and it demands perfect obedience. Not ‘try a little harder next time’. Perfect obedience. That is not good news. It produces Pharisees (emergents) who think they are pulling it off or it produces despair. The emergents claim ‘the rule of love’ and point to their superior good deeds. They even demonstrate it by coming here and blessing those who ‘persecutes’ them. But the Law does not save. It condemns.

Now we know that whatever the law says it speaks to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be stopped, and the whole world may be held accountable to God. For by works of the law no human being will be justified in his sight, since through the law comes knowledge of sin.
(Rom 3:19-20)

The purpose of the Law is to show your guilt. The Law is not Good News. The Law does not produce love, as the emergents will discover. The Law kills as it is supposed to do. In their quest to include everybody and be more loving than God, the emergents fall back on the Law and reduce it to something everybody can keep by showing a little love to someone.

His message was one of peace and love

A different Jesus.

and his death on the cross proves God’s love toward us

How? What was accomplished on the cross?

and God’s refusal to bring about redemption through the means of this world (coercion, hate, violence, lies, pride, etc).

Did it not please the Lord to crush his Son on the cross? Did Jesus Christ not die a violent death?

It just happens to be that we come to different conclusions about what the core of Scripture teaches and what Jesus commands of us.

Agreed. And your conclusions are wrong. Only the Gospel of Jesus Christ dying on the cross for my sins and giving me His righteousness, can save and that is the same Gospel that produces love in me, not the Law.

Amanda
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Amanda

J. Gresham Machen writes in Christianity and Liberalism:

The liberal preacher is really rejecting the whole basis of Christianity, which is a religion founded not on aspirations, but on facts. Here is found the most fundamental difference between liberalism and Christianity–liberalism is altogether in the imperative mood, while Christianity begins with a triumphant indicative; liberalism appeals to man’s will, while Christianity announces, first, a gracious act of God.

In maintaining the doctrinal basis of Christianity, we are particularly anxious not to be misunderstood. There are certain things that we do not mean.

In the first place, we do not mean that if doctrine is sound it makes no difference about life. On the contrary, it makes all the difference in the world. From the beginning, Christianity was certainly a way of life; the salvation that it offered was a salvation from sin, and salvation from sin appeared not merely in a blessed hope but also in an immediate moral change. The early Christians, to the astonishment of their neighbors, lived a strange new kind of life–a life of honesty, of purity and of unselfishness. And from the Christian community all other types of life were excluded in the strictest way. From the beginning Christianity was certainly a life.

But how was the life produced? It might conceivably have been produced by exhortation. That method had often been tried in the ancient world; in the Hellenistic age there were many wandering preachers who told men how they ought to live. But such exhortation proved to be powerless. Although the ideals of the Cynic and Stoic preachers were high, these preachers never succeeded at transforming society. The strange thing about Christianity was that it adopted an entirely different method. It transformed the lives of men not by appealing to the human will, but by 48 telling a story; not by exhortation, but by the narration of an event. It is no wonder that such a method seemed strange. Could anything be more impractical than the attempt to influence conduct by rehearsing events concerning the death of a religious teacher? That is what Paul called “the foolishness of the message.” It seemed foolish to the ancient world, and it seems foolish to liberal preachers today. But the strange thing is that it works. The effects of it appear even in this world. Where the most eloquent exhortation fails, the simple story of an event succeeds; the lives of men are transformed by a piece of news.

It is especially by such transformation of life, today as always, that the Christian message is commended to the attention of men. Certainly, then, it does make an enormous difference whether our lives be right. If our doctrine be true, and our lives be wrong, how terrible is our sin! For then we have brought despite upon the truth itself. On the other hand, however, it is also very sad when men use the social graces which God has given them, and the moral momentum of a godly ancestry, to commend a message which is false. Nothing in the world can take the place of truth.

The emergents revel in telling each other their stories. How sad is that, sinful man?

Amanda
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Amanda

No, nobody will, because that would be unloving. It does not matter to them which gospel is proclaimed. The important thing is the LAW of LOVE. Therefor Chad’s universalism is tolerated and they would rather spend their time pointing out how you are breaking the LAW of LOVE and they will bless you to demonstrate their tolerance and their superior works.

Discerning The World
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Discerning The World

Unfortunately Eugene is one of those who knew who knows who set up the fake blog stealing my identity. You can go and read the commentary under the article. Was it a shock for me? Nope, I already knew what he was all about from his first comment, and it came as no surprise when he ran away after I repeatedly asking him if he thinks it’s ok for someone to steal the identity of another.

It would appear that chest hair is not a common factor amongst emerging men.

cecilia
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cecilia

yeah Amanda! speak up girl! the same goes for “faith” and “the faith”. faith is being used left right and centre, but no one knows what “the faith” is anymore. cecilia

cecilia
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cecilia

eugene, how about “prayer”? the biblical way. no centering. just making a decision to pray, seek the guidelines in the Word of God is one so wish, and pray (converse, speak to “our Father who is in heaven)? how sad that people should nowadays take a course on how to pray. and I thought prayer, be still, comes naturally (naturally for the HolySpirit filled child of God)? anyways, blessings! cecilia

Amanda
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Amanda

Yes. ‘Believe in yourself.’ and ‘God beliefs in you.’

Treat yourself to some episodes of Fighting for the Faith. You will love it!

mj
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mj

What happens if as a Registered Professional Nurse I decide to leave the US and volunteer in Africa. Is that being more concerned about people than GOD? I don’t think so. Its about doing what God wants you to do. Or what you think he wants you to do. Discernemet of knowing your inner voice that can be a hard one. I want to leave the US after being victimized and where the truth was covered up by government. I will have more rights as a Citizen in Africa than I do in America as a woman. I have recently been informed that many women in NY have been victimized where they feel their privacies are being violated in a perverted venue. Any thoughts?

Burning Lamp
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Burning Lamp

discerningtheworld2.wordpress.com from where the above comments originated has been deleted and no longer exists. Good news.

Dan
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Dan

Kevin wrote:

I’m in danger of misrepresenting the emerging movement here (in fact, I might have already), because, as I said before, I’m not an emergent myself. So I won’t continue defending the movement on this forum.

Well if anyone is still not convinced that the Vatican is behind the Emergent movement, here’s proof.
1. Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_ecumenism
2. Catholic website one: http://www.cin.org/v2ecum.html
3. Catholic website two: http://www.vatican2voice.org/6unity/ecumenism.htm

Tom (Discerning the World)
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Kevin wrote:

Kevin and Dan wrote:

I’m in danger of misrepresenting the emerging movement here (in fact, I might have already), because, as I said before, I’m not an emergent myself. So I won’t continue defending the movement on this forum.

Well if anyone is still not convinced that the Vatican is behind the Emergent movement, here’s proof.
1. Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_ecumenism
2. Catholic website one: http://www.cin.org/v2ecum.html
3. Catholic website two: http://www.vatican2voice.org/6unity/ecumenism.htm

Roman Catholicism, Evangelical liberalism and the Emergent Church (which is the newest offshoot of Roman Catholicism in the mystical sense of the word) misinterpret Jesus’ words in John 17:21. Jesus’ High Priestly Prayer has already been answered and therefore we no longer need to pray for them to be united in God and Christ. All the true believers are already one (united) in God and in Christ (Jesus’ prayers are always answered – John 11:42). The Vatican’s oneness and unity is not so much a unity in God the Father and Jesus Christ but a oneness in the so-called one true church and her doctrines – the Roman Catholic Church. This, as they rightly say, is ecumenism and not the unity Jesus’ mentioned in his prayer. Paradox is the new idol in ecumenism. It boils down to this: What you believe is true and what I believe is also true. so let’s unite and become one in the so-called one true church. All we need is love.

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