On The Verge of Apostasy?

Tom (Discerning the World)

Tom Lessing is the author of the above article. Discerning the World is an internet Christian Ministry based in Johannesburg South Africa. Tom Lessing and Deborah Ellish both own Discerning the World. For more information see the About this Website page below the comments section.

7 Responses

  1. I commented on Bill Randles’ blog

    My reponse to Bill Randles was as follows:

    Marg says:
    January 6, 2015 at 8:01 pm

    Perhaps John MacArthur has been compromised? I also respected him as a solid Bible teacher, but if Billy Graham could be compromised who couldn’t.

    I believe there are people who will be made to take the mark against their will. The antichrist will “cause” them to take the mark. Think of the implementation of Obama Care for example. People are caused to buy into it. The antichrist will “cause” people to take the mark by making it a legal requirement and those who refuse won’t be able to do any kind of commerce. Also, mkultra individuals who have been chipped against their will are getting saved. My point is that there are people being chipped/implanted against their will, many times without their knowledge, can they be saved?

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    billrandles says:
    January 6, 2015 at 9:29 pm

    If it is against your will you are not responsible for it in my humble opinion…
    Reply

    I wrote this in reply.

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    Bill, I am a little confused. Are you saying that those who are going to take the mark of the beast against their will, won’t be responsible for their actions and may even be saved after they had allegedly been forced to take the mark of the beast? The Antichrist causes men to take his mark but he cannot force them. Those under the altar who had been slain (beheaded) for the faith in Jesus Christ (Rev 6:9), prove beyond any doubt that Antichrist will not be able to force anyone to take his mark. To “Cause” and to “force” are not the same.

  2. Deborah (Discerning the World) says:

    The chip that people are currently taking is NOT the Mark of the Beast – this is confusing a lot of people. I believe the Mark of the Beast is something far more sinister than an implanted ship. For one thing the bible says it will be in your hand OR your forehead, and you imagine people walking around with a chip in their foreheads having to bump their heads on everything to pay for transactions? Nope, the MotB is something far more sinister, maybe a tattoo that is visible containing the Beasts number 666.

    When it comes to taking the REAL MotB you will be deliberately pledging your allegiance to Satan. It will not be forced on you in a sense that they will hold you down and mark you against your will, it will be your choice to take it.

  3. Deborah (Discerning the World) says:

    Also all those who take the Mak of the Beast will break out in the most terrible painful sores all over their body!

  4. Deborah (Discerning the World) says:

    Fortunately Bill Randles ‘humble opinion’ is not true otherwise people will be in trouble if they listen to him. You have to read what the bible says about the worshiping the beast and taking his mark to understand what will really happen.

  5. Johan says:

    Hi Tom,
    Wil graag by jou weet of dit die moeite werd gaan wees om Bill Randles te luister as hy Suid Afrika toe kom?
    EK is nie seker oor hierdie man se Teologiese oortuigings nie en wil nie graag op n dwaal gelei word net omdat die man dalk n baie goeie spreker en oortuiger is nie.
    Dankie vir jou mening
    Groetes

  6. Hi Johan :hi:

    Tom will come back to you asap.

    I didn’t know he was coming here, thank you for that info.

    [Edited: Johan, please give me link to info, I can’t seem to find it on his website/blog]

  7. Hi Johan, Baie dankie vir jou comment. Ek het Bill Randles jare gelede in Suid-Afrika hoor preek en was toe heel beindruk met sy eksegese van die Bybel. Hoedanig hy deesdaae preek, kan ek nie sê nie. Wat ek maar gewoonlik doen wnneer ek na predikers gaan luister, is om hierdie gebed te bid, “Here, gee my asseblief ‘n baie fyn onderskeiding om te kan waarneem wanneer so en so nie volgens U Woord preek nie. Ek wil nie mislei word nie omdat Uself gesê het ‘Pasop dat niemand julle mislei nie.'”

    Ek het juis vanoggend vir my vrou gesê, “Deesdae moet ons baie seker maak van watter Jesus mense, veral jou vriende en vriendinne, praat. Dis ‘Jesus’ voor en ‘Jesus” agter en wanneer jy so ‘n bietjie dieper gaan en indringende vrae begin vra, kom jy agter dis ‘n ander Jesus, ‘n ander evangelie en ‘n ander gees.” Ek sê nie Bill Randles is een van hulle nie. Wat ek sê, is dat ons alle mense, wiie dit ookal mag wees, se preke, boeke, artikels ens. moet toets aan die hand van God se Woord. Ook ons artikels hier op Discerning the World moet jy so toets. Dink bietjie daaraan, die klomp Bereane in Tessalonika was ongelowiges wat vir Paulus gesê het, “Ons gaan eers die Skrifte ondersoek om te kyk of dit wat jy ons vertel het die waarheid is.” (Handeline 17:10-11).

    Sterkte
    Tom

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