A Good Moral Soil

How To Achieve a Good Moral Soil and Thence an Unshakeable Unity

Ravi Zacharias

Ravi Zacharias

We’re living in a day and age when everyone is striving for unity without counting the cost. Ravi Zacharias, speaking at a large congregation of Evangelicals and Mormons in the Mormon Tabernacle in Utah on 17 and 18 February 2014, boldly stated:

“And so, what brings us together? As has already been said, yes we have our theological differences,. but I think it’s commendable that we find a common cause in trying to create a good moral soil in this culture and in this time.”

Mankind has been trying to build a good moral soil since the very beginning of time and never could succeed in his efforts. Why? Here’s the answer,

The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it? (Jeremiah 17:9) (How can a deceitful heart so desperately wicked create a good moral soil?)

For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not. (Romans 7:18) (How can man in whom dwells NO good create a GOOD moral soil?)

Jesus Christ said:

And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. (Matthew 19:17) (If none is good except God, how on earth can Evangelicals and Mormons together create a good moral soil? The only thing they can create is BAD doctrine leading many astray and straight into hell.)

The question is: Who ultimately defines and decides what the foundation of this good moral soil should be? Is it God or man or is it God and man? Man’s own efforts to cultivate a good moral soil has proven to be far less than a failure since the beginning of time.  Anyone venturing to cultivate a good moral soil in man’s vineyard of ethics is but a fool. There is only one standard for the cultivation of a good moral soil and that is God’s doctrine summed up for us in 2 John 9,

Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.

 

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Tom Lessing is the author of the above article. Discerning the World is an internet Christian Ministry based in Johannesburg South Africa. Tom Lessing and Deborah Ellish both own Discerning the World. For more information see the About this Website page below the comments section.

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Andy
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Andy

I always had a bad feeling about Ravi Zacharias, going waaaaaay back in years. I never could connect with him, there was always something that was a check in my spirit. This explains it clearly. He’s a tare from the enemy, to be propped up as some “authority on spiritual matters”, only to lead people to demonic false gospels that lead to hell like mormonism.

Tse Ming Wai
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Tse Ming Wai

Ravi Zacharias? I have good impression about this person…

Tse Ming Wai
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Tse Ming Wai

It is very frightening to hear such leaders going astray. How many, in actuality, teachers or leaders are there in such list. I know Rick Warren is one of them. What about Alister Mcgrath.

zellie
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zellie

And this makes Ravi a Mormon or a compromiser? What about all the Muslim audiences he addresses? Does this make him a Muslim or a compromiser? Here a man gets the opportunity to witness to thousands of Mormons : should he preach fire an brimstone and chop them off by the knees in an unloving manner ? I listened to all his sermons at the Mormon tabernacle. Did you? And you choose to quote one statement and put a lousy you-tube commentary from someone you most probably don’t even know and who even disguises their voice!!!

Weet jy – ek woon nou al 14 jaar in die buiteland en as jy hier eensaam sit dan besef jy wat is afhankelijkheid op God en dat dit gaan om liefde – liefde vir God en liefde vir jou medemens – want sonder liefde is ons niks. En Suid Afrika sukkel so ‘n bietjie met die liefde- afdeling en daarom is dit so ‘n gemors daar.

Ravi is a humble, God- fearing man. I can look at his works and the fruit that he bears and know this. I have an immense respect for what this man has done to spread the Word between hostile audiences world wide for probably longer than what you were alive. And he does have an accountability structure in place which includes close friends and other fellow christians at RZIM. I think they will correct him if correcting is necessary. And yes, doctrine is important but not everybody has an IQ adequate to do the detailed mathematics. And that is not wrong, it’s just the way God made them. So please keep Ravi out of the equation and focus on the obvious wolves that mislead the sheep. And do it with a humble, God fearing spirit and most of all – with love. Don’t chop off peoples noses and expect them to smell the roses!

Katherine Courtney
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Katherine Courtney

Excuse me for seeming ignorant but are you saying that Ravi Z. was promoting an ecumenical movement because as a precursor they said they were not meeting for that reason. I mean, the Mormon speaker said it as an introductory statement that this was not about an ecumenical movement but about the rising hate against the religious freedoms we are all facing in the west. I just watched it last night.

zellie
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zellie

1. “You speak of love as though it is the only emotion needed to foster relationships” : Is love an emotion? If God is love does that make God an emotion! Love is a commandment from God – you should do it whether you feel like it or not! And yes – if you have love you can foster any relationship.

2. http://www.godandculture.com/blog/ravi-zacharias-responds-to-ndp-criticism

3 “If you don’t have the IQ to understand sound doctrine you’d better ask God to give it to you as soon as possible ” I cringe at your intellectual arrogance. Thank God for your mental capacity and pray that he maintains it – it too is a gift from him. When you do have the gift of discernment – (which you most obviously have) …..remember to tread with care on fellow christians and unbelievers, remembering that our greatest commandment is love. How dare you use ” RUBBISH” in capital letters and how dare you imply that I ” revere” Ravi Z. I deeply respect him and the work he does for God and most of all – I can see the character of JESUS in him , but I know that he is a mere man – just as you are a mere, fallible creature. I only ” revere” God. You don’t know me from a bar of soap so don’t make assumptions based on a few words. I find it rather insulting.

4. I am hardly to ever provoked to post in a forum. I do not find it a satisfying method of dialogue. Too impersonal and open for misconceptions. Therefore I now bid you farewell and will pray for your continued good work here, I rather enjoy the majority of the posts and am glad that amidst all the deception, there are still a few lights shining. God Bless.

Fran
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Fran

Glad to read someone is making sure Ravi is on target. I have lived in India for the last 16 years and have often wondered why Ravi doesn’t do more work in his own land to reach his people for Jesus? Ravi was born and raised in India till his late teens. I do know he has several lending libraries in India but can’t say I see a bulk of work evangelizing or giving massive seminars on the foundations of the faith. I saw him at a big rally in South India many, many years ago and really didn’t find him compelling in speaking to his very own people but I will admit I am very bias against Indians that leave this country, India, for greener pastures in ministry when there is SO MUCH need right here. So many Indians haven’t heard the Gospel for the first time yet they run to countries where there are churches, Christian radio/TV, Bibles available everywhere and loads of great teachers/preachers. These people know the language and culture yet they don’t feel the need to reach Indians, which I will never understand why they don’t feel a burden for their own, and I am bias against that kind of behavior. Call it what you like but that is how I see it. And yes, there are a few exceptions to this view, I do realize that.

I think that Americans go ga ga over anyone that comes from a different land and speaks in the USA. We are drenched in multiculturalism and to be honest, we rarely use the same yardstick on a foreign preacher that we use with a home-grown native preacher. Just the way we Westerners are, for some odd reason. And the other thing that bugs me is that many Christian Indians in America will loudly complain about the work we Westerners are doing in their land but they refuse to come back to India to do it the way they seem to think it should be done. They loudly criticize our efforts in reaching the lost in their lands and often turn Westerners against us, getting them to criticize what we are doing. I am baffled by it all. I can’t understand it and maybe that is a good thing.

All I know is that Indians here are very proud of him and often say he is one ministry that India has exported. Many Christian Indians here would like to follow in his footsteps, which means we will have more Christian brain drain in a country that has millions that haven’t heard the name of Jesus once but know Coca Cola intimately.

Karl
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Karl

Dear Bother Thomas

Please check this out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRyUycSmqIE&feature=youtu.be
Ravi Zacharias on Mormonism Theology

Thanka

In Christian Love
Karl

Jon
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Jon

Thank you for posting this article. I watched some videos of Ravi Zacharias debating atheists and he had great counter arguments. He is regarded by some as one of the top Christian apologists around. What is also very troubling about Ravi Zacharias is that he appeared on Joyce Meyer’s tv show and called her a great teacher. Very disappointing coming from a well known Christian apologist. I’ve searched him on the web and came across this article. Good to know, thanks.

The youtube link is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6UQNFqUJbQ