Prof Johan Malan – A Gospel of Works – Losing your Salvation (Part 1)

Deborah (Discerning the World)

Discerning the World is an internet Discernment ministry based in Johannesburg South Africa that was founded by Deborah du Rand in 2008. Tom Lessing joined Deborah in May 2013. Tom Lessing founded the website “Waak en Bid/Watch and Pray” which was closed in 2013 and articles moved across to DTW.

6 Responses

  1. Redeemed says:

    If one looks at Prof Malan’s views on salvation, one can see that his very foundation is flawed.

    Also, has Prof Malan written any specific articles on the false teaching of Calvinism? One has to dig to find his views opposing Calvinism and then he does not directly expose it as a work of darkness.

    Obviously the Prof does not consider Calvinism to be the dangerous false teaching that it is. His benevolent attitude toward such a destructive doctrine is a huge mistake. Why are his admirers seemingly oblivious to this?

  2. Jesus Christ once promised “I shall never leave you nor forsake you.” The Amplified Bible renders it thus:

    Let your character or moral disposition be free from love of money [including greed, avarice, lust, and craving for earthly possessions] and be satisfied with your present [circumstances and with what you have]; for He [God] Himself has said, I will not in any way fail you nor give you up nor leave you without support. [I will] not, [I will] not, [I will] not in any degree leave you helpless nor forsake nor let [you] down relax My hold on you)! Assuredly not!] (Hebrews 13:5)

    If Jesus promised never to forsake us in our everyday mundane needs why would He do so in the maintenance and final consummation of our salvation – the most important need that we have?

  3. Aaron says:

    The doctrine of losing salvation, is basically works for salvation. It is a false gospel.

  4. There are several ways the Bible expresses the doctrine of salvation. One of the most profound is in Romans 6 where Paul says:

    Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? (Romans 6:3)

    One may easily conclude that a saint can lose his salvation IF he himself had baptized him into the death of Christ. Had it been possible for a saint to have baptized himself into the death of Christ and then loose his salvation, Paul or anyone else could have said to the saint “Don’t you know that when you have UNBAPTIZED yourself OUT of the death of Christ, you have lost your salvation?” If the Holy Spirit is the One who baptizes new converts INTO the death of Christ, then it is also HE alone that must UNBAPTIZE them OUT of the death of Christ, if it were possible for them to lose their salvation. IMPOSSIBLE!!!

    I see something of the Word of Faith fruits in those who believe that a saint can lose his salvation. Listen carefully to what they usually say to vindicate their view:

    Timothy was warned against this mistake and encouraged to persevere in his faith and a holy life (1 Tim. 1:19; cf. Heb. 3:6,14)

    Note the emphasis on persevering in your faith and NOT faith IN Christ Jesus. They may as well say you must trust your faith (have faith in your faith) in order to remain saved. The sad thing is that IF the loss of salvation was a biblical doctrine, then those who believe in it are the ones who have ALREADY lost their salvation. Why? Because they do not persevere in the faith that Jesus is the ONE who will see them through to glory. They have actually lost their faith in HIM. They have fallen from grace and are now trusting their own works to maintain their salvation. In this way they are doing exactly what the Calvinists are doing with their “Perseverance of the SAINTS” – trusting their own performance.

    Of course they will immediately accuse me of promulgating a licentious lifestyle because the saint cannot lose his salvation. That’s a very wicked way of defending their own heresy. It is wicked. No saint in his right mind who believes in eternal security will ever tell others that they may live as they please because they cannot lose their salvation. That is precisely why Paul wrote Romans 6.

    What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.(Rom 6:1-4)

    The doctrine of conditional security is a wicked doctrine because it teaches Christians to trust their own resources and good works to remain saved. It places an immense burden on the saint, a burden they cannot carry and they need to give it to Jesus. (Matthew 11:28)

  5. edddycs says:

    My Understanding of pre-election is not that you are actually pre elected,yes we do have freedom of choice but rather that God who is all knowing knows who will give their lives to him in belief , He knows you from before the foundation of the earth.this is that because God knows the beginning from the end he already, then knew who will submit to him by responding to Jesus having died on the cross.
    In the Old testament God knew what he would have to accomplish with the punishment of the Philistines so then he also knew that when the day would come he was going to use Samson.
    God said of Pharaoh, I have created you for just such a day – I understand that Pharaoh did not have a chance – God hardened Pharaohs heart.

    This is the potter deciding what the clay will become.

    In the new testament Jesus knows and God knew that believers in him would come under attack by the likes of Saul, He the Lord must also know and knew from the beginning before creation that then at this time he would step in and convict Saul and change his life,thus renaming him Paul.

    I believe that although all people who have lived ,live , and will still live will have an opportunity to accept belief IN Jesus (no man will have an excuse one day when they stand before the Judgment throne) – there are a people who will not make the choice and therefore are destined to eternal death.

    i believe that the Triune God already knows who these are and has always known.
    God knew Adam and Eve would rebel in the Garden ,He knew Caine would kill Able.Adam did not know when he was given life that he would choose death one day Cane at birth did not know that he would kill his brother one day, it came as a result of their rebellious choices. But God knew and that is why he has a plan for redemption.

    So wants you come to the knowledge of saving grace it is easy to believe that this was your destiny that you were a chosen people like God has chosen Israel.Unless you repent and are born again you will never consider that this was your pre destined lot . Unsaved non believers do not have this as a point of reference because they follow the heart of satan,they are corrupted with unbelief and depraved (God says specifically of Sodomites-Homo queers they are given over to own depraved minds) – But when the Judgment throne is presented God will show them the day they had the option and turned it away.

    God chose Sampson ,David, Esau, Moses and Noha.

    Disclaimer: I reserve the right to adopt my belief as we share and learn scripture together.
    English typing and spelling are not my strong points -especially since my mind and thoughts move faster than mu fingers.

    Eddy

  6. Deborah (Discerning the World) says:

    Eddy

    Read this, it makes understanding Biblical Predestination sooooo much easier :) What it Really Means to be “Elected, Chosen, and Predestinated” – The Biblical Truth

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