Kathryn Kuhlman – The Interfaith Faith Healer
Kathryn Kuhlman – The Interfaith Faith Healer
Angus Buchan loves to mention Smith Wigglesworth as a great man of god but lately he is mentioning Kathryn Kuhlman quite a bit. I thought I would just give a brief history of this diabolical woman. Please read this, it’s very important you know who this woman was and how she has influenced hundreds of pastors over the years.
“Kathryn Kuhlman was a healer who drew large crowds to her meetings. Millions came to her for help. Her meetings were attended by up to ten thousand at a time.
Kathryn was born in Concordia, sixty miles from Kansas City. Her mother was a Methodist, her father a Baptist. As a young girl, she went to a Baptist seminary and was ordained as a Baptist preacher. Her first church was in Franklin, Pennsylvania. One day some people in her congregation said that they had been healed while she was preaching. Kathryn was astonished. When such occurrences became more frequent, she began to preach about faith healing, without ceasing to put the main emphasis on the salvation of the soul. Before long, she moved from Franklin to the great city of Pittsburgh, where ever-increasing crowds flocked to her services. From 1946, she conducted an average of 125 healing meetings per year. She used the largest halls in the USA, and her healing meetings were attended by about one and a half million people each year. This figure is given by a doctor named William Nolen.
In addition to the meetings, she appeared on many radio and TV programs. The huge sums of money given as offerings have been used for building twenty-five churches, many schools and homes, and for social projects of many kinds.
First of all, I must give a brief sketch of the style of these healing meetings. After a fantastic organ prelude, Kathryn would appear on the stage dressed in a long blue or white robe. Everyone would stand up. She would say: “How glad I am to have you all here. The Holy Spirit will perform a great work among you.” The atmosphere was heightened by an introductory hymn sung by thousands of expectant people. This was followed by prayer and a short sermon. Then Kathryn would suddenly announce, “Up there in the second row of the balcony a man has just been healed of cancer. Please come down to the platform,” or “a girl in the seventeenth row has just been healed of a lung disease.” It would continue in the same way for several hours. The people who had been healed came to the platform. Kathryn would hold her hands about six inches above the head of each and pray. They then would fall backwards to the floor. Two attendants would catch them as they fell, so they would not hurt themselves. The people who had been healed would lay for ten to thirty seconds unconscious on the floor. When they stood up, they would say that they had a wonderful feeling. While I was watching, I saw even ministers falling to the floor unconscious, one of them a Catholic priest.
Kathryn would then ask those who had been healed one or two questions, different every time. For instance, she asked a woman in her fifties, “Do you believe in Jesus?” “No, I am a Buddhist.” A young man about twenty years old was asked: “Are you a Christian?” “No, I am an atheist.” “Won’t you believe in Jesus now that He has healed your wife?” Kathryn asked. A long silence passed. After much pressing on Kathryn’s part, he finally said, “I will try.” — Occult ABC by Kurt Koch, 1978
Testimony by Joan Gieson
“In 1966 Frank my husband took me to a Kathryn Kuhlman Miracle Service in Pittsburgh Penn. We waited for hours on a cold spring morning in May. We watched thousands of sick people gather on the steps, the yard and the street of the 1st Presbyterian Church. We arrived there approximately 12:00 Midnight, not ever imagining the direction or adventures God would take us on.
About 4:00 a.m. I saw two huge angels, or what I believed to be angels standing at each end of the street looking and watching over us. Their features were big and bold and strong, but also gentle like a mother hen over her chicks. I saw them standing there until we went into the building. I’ve never told anyone these things. They have always seemed so private to me. They were at least 25 feet tall and neither one of them spoke,”
“Suddenly the great thick oak doors were pushed open and the crowd, hurried in to find a seat. It was the first time I had ever waited all night at a church, or seen people run to get on the front row. I was in amazement and excited and thrilled and expectant and scared. I did not know what to expect. I had never seen anything in my life like this. JESUS WAS REALLY THERE, and the moment I sat down, I closed my eyes and started to cry. I FELT A LIGHT BEAM ON MY HEAD THAT FILLED MY ENTIRE BODY. I felt illuminated, I felt love and security and needed and grateful and special and unworthy and strong and weak and warm and wonderful, and like I never wanted to leave that place. I wanted time to stop so I never had to leave that moment.”
“When I finally did see her on the platform, I only saw a tall slender beautiful woman, engulfed in a brilliant aurora I could not see her face clearly for the mist that hovered around her”
The Life And Death Of Kathryn Kuhlman
“Her life was a mystery. Many events of her life were shadowed with half-truths, deception, confusion and misrepresentation. If the righteous or wicked die as they live, then her death was a proof of her disobedience and bondage by false spirits. In fact, of all the mysteries about her, her death was the most mysterious.”
“On February 20, 1976, in a strange hospital, in a strange city, surrounded by people she hardly knew, with a man she once disdained standing in the wings ready to preach her funeral. The woman whom Time magazine called a ‘veritable one-woman Shrine of Lourdes’ was dead at the age of sixty-eight.” (Daughter Of Destiny, Jamie Buckingham, pp. 1-2.)
“In the second paragraph above he mentioned a statement by Time magazine in which she was called a “veritable one-woman Shrine of Lourdes.” A second biography, written by Wayne E. Warner, entitled The Woman Behind The Miracles, stated that people often used monies saved to visit an apparition of Mary and instead visited a crusade being conducted by Kathryn Kuhlman. It was very apparent that her healing services were on the exact same level as a so-called mystical apparition of Mary.”
“Although she had not mentioned marriage, everyone seemed to know. A ghastly hush fell over the congregation. All the rumors they had been hearing about Waltrip divorcing his wife in order to marry Kathryn – it was all true. Women began to sob. Several got up from the choir and walked out. Men sat stony faced in their pews, looking at Kathryn in disbelief. How could she do it? This woman, who had preached such dynamic messages about purity and holiness. This woman who had been such a model of decency and divine compassion.” —(Daughter Of Destiny, pp. 82-83.)
Kathryn Kuhlman And “The One World Religion”
Kathryn Kuhlman was apparently the first minister within the Evangelical/Pentecostal world that laid a foundation for the new unity movement of religions. It was said by her official biographer, Buckingham, that Miss Kuhlman did not like to conduct her services without Catholic priests on her platform. He stated,
“She had a special love for doctors, and wanted them either on the stage or on the front rows of the auditorium. The same was true of priests and nuns – especially if they were ‘in uniform’. Nothing thrilled Kathryn more than to have thirty or forty Catholic clergymen, especially if they wore clerical collars or, better yet, cassocks, sitting behind her while she ministered. Somehow it seemed to lend authenticity to what she was doing – and helped create the proper climate of a trust and understanding which was so necessary for a miracle service.” (Daughter Of Destiny, p. 221.)
She had a special affinity for the Catholic style of high church grandeur. When Kathryn went to Las Vegas for her crusade, the following was reported,
“Kathryn had but one pass through Las Vegas, and she would deliver the gospel with power! Hundreds of people in Las Vegas as well as the faithful in Youngstown, Pittsburgh, and Franklin had agreed to pray that the Holy Spirit would stir the city. Not far away a Roman Catholic priest said a Mass for the meeting the day before.” (The Woman Behind The Miracles, pp. 229-230.)
Please remember that a Catholic Mass is believed to be a time when the very bread and wine becomes the actual body and blood of Jesus Christ. Millions of Protestants died as martyrs because they rejected this blasphemous assertion. Did her affinity for Catholic dogmas help start the declension within the Pentecostal circles that has now become a watershed of deception and compromise? I certainly believe so! “Kathryn Kuhlman was an ecumenist without portfolio.” (Ibid, p. 15.) Jamie Buckingham further stated,
“In 1948 while ecumenists designed programs for denominational unity, Kathryn Kuhlman threw open the heavy old doors of north Pittsburgh’s Carnegie Music Hall. Streaming through the doors and scurrying for chairs came Protestants, Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, Jewish, and other groups, most related to churches but others not. And they were back the next week and the next.” (Ibid, p. 15.)
This certainly would have been acceptable if they were led out of these cold-dead churches to embrace a life of separation and New Testament lifestyle. That’s certainly what Jesus did. On October 11, 1972, Pope Paul gave her a private audience at the Vatican. Mr. Warner stated,
“Complimenting her on her ‘admirable work,’ he admonished her to ‘do it well!’ and gave her a gold, handmade engraved medallion bearing a dove symbolizing the Holy Spirit.” (Ibid, p. 172.)
Kathryn Kuhlman And Her Spirit Guides
I am personally convinced that Miss Kuhlman was controlled by a spirit guide masquerading as the Holy Spirit. There appears to be no other possible answer. Coming to this conclusion has been a very tough and heart-rending experience. The following quote from Benny Hinn’s book, Good Morning, Holy Spirit, will give you a glance at her attachment to either the Holy Spirit or a spirit.
“I looked up to see Kathryn burying her head in her hands as she began to sob. She sobbed and sobbed so loudly that everything came to a standstill. The music stopped. The ushers froze in their positions.
“Everyone had their eyes on her. And for the life of me I had no idea why she was sobbing. I’d never seen a minister do that before. What was she crying about? It was told later that she had never done anything like that before, and members of her staff remember it to this day.
“It continued for what seemed like two minutes. Then she thrust back her head. There she was, just a few feet in front of me. Her eyes were aflame. She was alive.
“In that instant she took on a boldness I had never seen in any person. She pointed her finger straight out with enormous power and emotion – even pain. If the devil himself had been there, she would have flicked him aside with just a tap.
“It was a moment of incredible dimension. Still sobbing, she looked out at the audience and said with such agony, ‘Please.’ She seemed to stretch out the word, ‘Plee-ease, don’t grieve the Holy Spirit.’
“She was begging. If you can imagine a mother pleading with a killer not to shoot her baby, it was like that. She begged and pleaded.
“‘Please,’ she sobbed, ‘don’t grieve the Holy Spirit.’
“Even now I can see her eyes. It was as if they were looking straight at me.
“And when she said it, you could have dropped a pin and heard it. I was afraid to breathe. I didn’t move a muscle. I was holding on to the pew in front of me wondering what would happen next.
“Then she said, ‘Don’t you understand? He’s all I’ve got!’
“I thought, ‘What’s she talking about?’
“Then she continued her impassioned plea saying, ‘Please! Don’t wound Him. He’s all I’ve got. Don’t wound the One I love!'” (Good Morning, Holy Spirit, Benny Hinn, pp. 8-9.)
Her words reveal a view of this spirit that is extremely unusual. She said, “Don’t you understand? He’s all I’ve got.” Again, she said, “Please don’t wound Him, He’s all I’ve got. Don’t wound the One I love.”
The Holy Spirit absolutely never speaks of Himself. He glorifies Jesus Christ in His church and in you and Jesus Christ alone. Jesus said,
“Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.” (John 16:13-14).
She was enamored with this “spirit” that came upon her. Often she spoke of her fear that he would leave her. She would wait behind the stage, even at times while the service languished for this “spirit person” to manifest himself. When he came she was electric and performed as the greatest of actors. Hinn continued in his description of Kuhlman’s emphasis on this spirit whom she called the Holy Spirit. He said,
“In my church, the pastor talked about the Holy Spirit. But not like this. His references had to do with the gifts or tongues or prophecy – not “He’s my closest, most personal, most intimate, most beloved friend.” Kathryn Kuhlman was telling me about a person that was more real than you or I.” (Ibid, p. 9.)
Bennt Hinn Praying at Kuhlman’s grave
The secret to Hinn’s power is his peculiar anointing, which he connects with Kathryn Kuhlman and Aimee McPherson, founder of the Foursquare Gospel Church. He first felt the “full power of the Holy Spirit” on him at a Kuhlman healing service in 1973 — and her mantle has presumably fallen upon Hinn. He conducts his meetings almost exactly like hers — though it takes Hinn much longer to get his audience into the expectant mood that seems to generate psychosomatic “miracles. ” In an April 7, 1991 sermon, Hinn revealed that he periodically visits Kuhiman’s grave and that he is one of the few with a key to gain access to it. He also visits Aimee’s grave, where he says: “I felt a terrific anointing … I was shaking all over … trembling under the power of God … ‘Dear God,’ I said, ‘I feel the anointing.’ … I believe the anointing has lingered over Aimee’s body.” — (Dave Hunt, “Signs of the Times,” CIB Bulletin, Jan. 1992 http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/ti020006.htm)
Saints, we have to preserve that anointing whether its the anointing that’s on Rod… Rod Parsley agrees with Hinn about the anointing as he discussed the new healing center of Hinn’s on his program he said. ” God where those anointings will be multiplied Parsley says, I’m seeing this now Benny] … Multiplied by one another, Smith Wigglesworth’s anointing multiplied by Oral Roberts anointing multiplied by Kathryn Kuhlman’s anointing multiplied by Benny Hinn’s anointing and when the people come there, there faith will be at such a level that that spiritual genealogy which you are preserving will come to bear against their need. … this is going to be a miracle mountain. “( This is Your Day program, Aug. 24, 1999 TBN ) http://www.letusreason.org/Pent40.htm
Hi DTW, thank you for placing this article. People don’t know who people like Kathryn Kuhlman were. We have quite a few people that want to spend their very last cents to get to Angus’s meeting, i think the next one is in Durban. I refuse to support anyone who mentions names like Benny Hinn and Kathryn Kuhlman in their sermons. Do you maybe have some of these sermons where he mentions these names, or where can I get it from? I want to send it to some people, so that they know who they are really supporting. When people flock after a person like that, there must be something wrong in the first place. Some of the people we know act like they can only receive spiritual blessing at Angus’s meetings!?
He says this stuff 99% of the time TV, expecially when they broadcast him on God TV. I will see what I can find out from someone who records all this stuff. And it’s difficult you know, people go and listen to these revivalists speak and they rattle off names of people they admire and it flies over the public’s heads because they are so captured in the moment. People don’t go there to memorise, just listen and it goes in the one ear and out the other. So when you ask people, “did you hear him say that or this” they look at you with a blank stare.
Please see if you can find anything, we don’t have satellite, we barely have bunny ears…! It’s so sad, one family we know REALLY don’t have money to go down to Durbs, but they will rather not eat than miss Angus. How could that be of God? Anyway, it would be good to give them something to read, hopefully their eyes will open. Like you say, they follow these people blindly.
In that picture Kathryn looks like a giant. Was she human I wonder. Just kidding my sic humour.
What if the events get interpreted as follows: “The Holy Spirit absolutely never speaks of Himself” – The Holy Spirit did not speak of himself, Kathryn spoke of Him, so did Jesus…
Jesus clearly predicted that the “Holy Spirit will come upon you” Why could the Spirit coming on Kathryn NOt have been the Holy Spirit? Besides, the Holy Spirit and Jesus (and the father) is one, why can’t she say that he has a relationship with the Holy Spirit (read Jesus)?
Wasn’t her contact with Catholic clergy for them to witness the truth, and her seeing the pope another silent effort she had to win Catholics over to Christ?
>>What if the events get interpreted as follows: “The Holy Spirit absolutely never speaks of Himself” – The Holy Spirit did not speak of himself, Kathryn spoke of Him, so did Jesus…
No, wrong interpretation.
>>Jesus clearly predicted that the “Holy Spirit will come upon you” Why could the Spirit coming on Kathryn Not have been the Holy Spirit? Besides, the Holy Spirit and Jesus (and the father) is one, why can’t she say that he has a relationship with the Holy Spirit (read Jesus)?
Jesus did not predict the Holy Spirit would come…good grief. He KNEW the Holy Spirit would come and abide in those after He ascended. You tell my why this spirit on Kathryn is the Holy Spirit? Do you think the Holy Spirit lies and makes fake healings? Think carefully before you answer that.
>>Wasn’t her contact with Catholic clergy for them to witness the truth, and her seeing the pope another silent effort she had to win Catholics over to Christ?
No. She was Ecumenical. In other words she was CATHOLIC acting like an Evangelist. Nothing new really.
Don’t ask, instead go pick up your bible and read it.
When the scripture says the Holy Spirit doesn’t speak of Himself, I think it is saying that the Holy Spirit only speaks what Jesus/God tell Him to speak. He does not speak on His own accord.
It is extremely important to discern what´s right and what´s false in these last days before Lord´s coming.
When somebody is saying (e.g. B.Hinn a many others) :”Jesus visited me… etc.” Maybe angel, but not Jesus.
Pls do not believe such people (Mt24:23-26). Never mind if they quote Bible, Jesus, or provide miracles.
It is so amazing that God’s people get criticized after they have passed on.Everyone has the liberty to express themselves but one should becareful not to focus so much on the flaws of the partners of the Lord otherwise they will miss their chance of having the message delivered to their lives coming to work.After all Paul does emphasize in one of His books that we should not grieve the Holy Spirit our Teacher and Comforter.The Headmaster whose name is Jesus ascended to heaven,the Holy Spirit is who we’ve got and we cannot seperate the Holy Trinity.
Hilol…false teachers/”wolves in sheep’s clothing” are NOT partners in the Lord! In the Bible, Paul says, “(For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ: Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.) (Phil 3:18-19) THIS grieves the Holy Spirit.
You’ve been warned, take heed and SEARCH THE SCRIPTURES!
It is Ephesians. A good book to read Specially the whole of chapter 4 and not just a verse. That way you one sees the context.
Julio Cesar Ruibal a very young Bolivian and medical student resident in United States turned his life to Jesuschrist in one of Kathryn Kuhlman services. Right after that he went back to Bolivia when the Holy Spirit through Julio’s anointing shook the entire nation and people were healed and saved by the thousands. Bolivia had a Visitation from GOD and many churches were created, GOD also had restored spiritual gifts, prophesy and ministries in Bolivia; consequently, the Gospel of our LORD Jesus spread through the entire country and overseas.
When you first meet the Lord his Love and anointing produce such a feeling of LOVE hard to describe but it’s clear that one immediately believes that nothing is impossible for GOD, and even the Pope could be converted, since he after all is still a human being, and I think that is what Katryn Kulhman felt. By the same token, sometimes, I think that even Evo Morales could be converted to JESUS. Evo is now the competition or might be the 8th Beast that will destroy the Pope and the Roman Catholic Church. What I want for Bolivia now is neither the Andean Evo Morales or the Roman Catholic Church, but JESUSCHRIST forever and ever and I believe in FAITH that’s already done.
>> Julio Cesar Ruibal a very young Bolivian and medical student resident in United States turned his life to Jesuschrist in one of Kathryn Kuhlman services. Right after that he went back to Bolivia when the Holy Spirit through Julio’s anointing shook the entire nation and people were healed and saved by the thousands. Bolivia had a Visitation from GOD and many churches were created, GOD also had restored spiritual gifts, prophesy and ministries in Bolivia; consequently, the Gospel of our LORD Jesus spread through the entire country and overseas.
So basically what happened is that Ruibal brought back a FALSE gospel to Bolivia, it spread like wild fire (because that is what false doctrines do, they spread very quickly) – the gospel truth on the other hand is hated – Matt 10:22 And you shall be hated of all men for my name’s sake: but he that endures to the end shall be saved and Matt 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leads to life, and few there be that find it.
Kathryn Kuhlman was a spiritualist who passed herself off as a preacher. All she did was pass on the Kundalini spirit onto others as this spirit is transferable. Please read this article to understand the difference between the Biblical Holy Spirit and the false holy spirit. The Biblical Holy Spirit vs.The False Unholy Spirit of Fire and then please read this: Speaking in Tongues has CEASED then please read this Can Satan Heal? then please read this
Are Prophets for Today or has Prophecy Ceased? and last but not least please read this
Yes, a Future Kingdom, but Not a Kingdom Now
The fallout from Kuhlman’s influence continues today. She definitely had an influence on Chuck Smith, founder of Calvary Chapels, and since he never renounced his association and that of Lonnie Frisbee, the deception lives on. The false spirit of ecumenism and giving Catholicism a pass.
Anyone can get caught up in false teaching and be deceived, but it is so important to openly RENOUNCE and totally come clean from it. If one does not, the cancer remains and will cause decay and destruction one way or another. It may be in “remission” for a time, but it will return if it is not eradicated once and for all.
To Deborah (Discerning the World)
I believe you are misjudging and you are not discerning anything. GOD did not bring a FALSE gospel to Bolivia. Julio was a man of God and brought to Bolivia what GOD wanted him to bring to Bolivia. I agree that many true revivals carry persecution, but some do not, some are visitations, because GOD has been restoring his Kingdom/His true Church if you will – HE has been doing that since the 1500’s, and since Lutero, HE went on and on and on. Please look into Jesus’ parables and particularly the OLD WINE in a new container?
Jesus on Matthew 10:22 is talking about prophesy and future persecutions and particularly about the persecution from the Roman Empire and further.
Julio did not bring any new doctrine, but the Gospel of Jesuschrist. Sure he was hated and he paid with his human life; a bullet ended it. You just simply do not know. Many people in the world when it bothers them do not want to here the Truth, but the most of us came to Christ when that Gospel was brought to us by someone, by a servant of God. One night past midnight a young man, a disciple of Julio brought to me these words: “Come to me, all ye that labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.” That servant of God brought that to me when I did not know anything about the Lord or the Bible. I was going to commit suicide. How could that be a FALSE gospel?
The power of GOD carry by the Holy Spirit does spread like a wildfire and it’s also fire inside. There are similarities/imitations such as kundalini yoga and other pagan religions/believes, yes. Through the entire scriptures, who is the one who always try to imitate what God does? However, do not discard what God is doing now.
Ecumenical is what the enemy has been using for a while. God, on the contrary, uses unity. I completely agree on “strait is the gate and narrow is the way, which lead to life, and few there be that find it.” Are we on it?
Thank you for all the links and by looking at the titles, I’d probably agree with the themes. Meanwhile, the scriptures/Bible and the Holy Spirit are my .
I do not follow Latter Rain cult teaching LF, you do, but I do not as it is unbiblical and it had spread like wildfire across the world because people don’t read their bibles PROPERLY to find out what the REAL truth is. Did you read all those those articles I asked you so nicely too? or just look at the titles. Also I ask you to read this one… Your Sons and Your Daughters Will Prophesy, But Not Yet…
There is nothing new that God is doing, no new wine or new wave either. What the church is facing is a great apostasy, a falling away from the Christian faith, because we are close to the start of the tribulation. 2Thess 2:3 “Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;” (Matt 24:23; 1Tim 4:1; 1John 2:18) There are no revivals LF, only false revivals to another gospel and people are falling for it by the millions, because
2Tim 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2Tim 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
>> Julio did not bring any new doctrine, but the Gospel of Jesuschrist. Sure he was hated and he paid with his human life; a bullet ended it.
It is a sad that this Julio guy died the way he did, but that does not mean he preached the GOSPEL TRUTH.
>> The power of GOD carry by the Holy Spirit does spread like a wildfire and it’s also fire inside. There are similarities/imitations such as kundalini yoga and other pagan religions/believes, yes. Through the entire scriptures, who is the one who always try to imitate what God does?
I have shown you in the article The Biblical Holy Spirit vs.The False Unholy Spirit of Fire based on biblical scripture how the Holy Spirit operates and it is NOT a fire inside. Yes Satan is trying to imitate the Holy Spirit but he can’t get it right and his false spirit manifests itself as a fire, hot, electricity. The Holy Spirit in the bible does NOT manifest as fire, heat or electricity. By explaining to me how your spirit operates you have CLEARLY shown to us and yourself that this is not the Holy Spirit of the Bible.
And Remember, Satan knows the Bible, when you were wanting to commit suicide he came to you, quoting scripture, because you were not seeking Jesus Christ, Satan was seeing you. 1 Pet 5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour.
>> GOD has been restoring his Kingdom/His true Church if you will
That is totally untrue, give me scripture to back up this statement.
[delete by DTW – you have this habit of calling me names (judgmental, contentious, etc) and thinking I must just accept it, well I wont]
@ Deborah (Discerning the World):
Thank you…good response….. this is definetly an anti-annointing posting. To deny the healing and miracle of the Holy Spirit through His servant is blasphemy…. Jesus condemned the pharasees for saying His healings were from the devil. If you don’t believe in her, believe for the sake of the works. Jesus ate with sinners and healed the servant of the roman. Paul rebuked Peter for not eating with the gentiles. How then do you get the gospel to the sinner.Did Jesus ever discriminate against who or who not to heal? All one need is faith in the finished work of Jesus. It is healings and miracles that has drawn a lot of moslems and people of other religions to the cross. All Kathryn did was point to the Holy Spirit as the Healer. She didn’t want to take any glory for herself, though the Glory of God was on her. There’s a thin line between gloryfing God and self. She avoids this by glorifying or pointing to the Holy Spirit. Whoever posted this is just overwhelmed by a religious demon… Blind guides, they strain out a nut and swallow a camel … Jesus said.
All Kathrine does is talk about the Trinity (Father, Son and Holy Spirit). Jesus said the world cannot recieve the Holy Spirit because they neither see Him nor know Him. How will they understand His leading unless someone preaches Him. She always said that the most important Person is know and have is Jesus. It was the outpouring of the Blood that ushered in the Out pouring of the Holy Spirit on Pentecost. The purpose of the the Blood was to remit sin to enable the Holy Spirit to dwell in us. If not His power will destroy the sinner. He is the Promise of the Father. He enabled Jesus to carry out His mission. We cannot leave the christian life without Him. Someone must teach the believer about the Holy Spirit like Jesus taught the disciples about Him. He will come where Jesus is glorified through the preaching of the gospel. And most of all…He Jesus as well as God. He my everything. My life has changed so much when I started to get to know Him better. He is real and yearns for that kind of fellowship Kathryn describes; a strong fellowship and relationship that made Paul to say…”that what shall separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus…” And this love has been poured in our hearts by none other but THE HOLY SPIRIT. He can be known as Peter knew Jesus. The writter obviously knows nothing about Him. If you did……you wouldn’t waste time beating down and judging other ministers. If you knew Him you will be in the streets and yes, with people of other religions preaching Christ as the only Savior of mankind. That way, He (THE HOLY SPIRIT) can come and dwell in them. All He wants is to abide and fellowship with mankind… to bring us back to the days of Eden. I chose to pray for you.
The Comforter and Couselor <-- Thats weird, you chose a name that implies the Holy Spirit? I'm confused by your comment, first your thank me for a good response and then you.... tell me I am blaspheming (which is a load of rubbish).
this piece was very good and insightful but on a parallel note concerning ecumenicism i think u should also do a piece on Billy Grahams ecumenical ties to the WORLD COUNCIL of CHURCHES
and his great affection for Pope John Paul 2 & the vatican.
i couldnt find anything on your site and there are hundreds of pages and videos about this elsewhere
New King James Version (NKJV)
You Will Know Them by Their Fruits
15 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? 17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them.
Kathryn Kuhlman was before my time, but that does not matter to me. However, I must ask these questions– are you who criticize Kathryn Kuhlman, or call her “diabolical”, saying all those who were healed and/or witnessed healing during her ministry, essentially BAD FRUITS? Or, because so many have tried to follow her “style” of ministry and preaching since then, given her a bad name? How many people have you healed? How many people have you moved to know and feel the Glory of God? No matter, is this true or not, what was meant for evil God will use for good?
English Standard Version (ESV)
20 As for you, you meant evil against me, but God meant it for good, to bring it about that many people[a] should be kept alive, as they are today.
And, when she sobbed about grieving the Holy Spirit, we all know that is the ONE, UNFORGIVABLE SIN. Right?
English Standard Version (ESV)
28 “Truly, I say to you, all sins will be forgiven the children of man, and whatever blasphemies they utter, 29 but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin”—
“Then she said, ‘Don’t you understand? He’s all I’ve got!’ – See more at: http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/02/26/kathryn-kuhlman-the-interfaith-faith-healer/#sthash.Gxx9LsIx.dpuf
“Then she continued her impassioned plea saying, ‘Please! Don’t wound Him. He’s all I’ve got. Don’t wound the One I love!’” – See more at: http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/02/26/kathryn-kuhlman-the-interfaith-faith-healer/#sthash.Gxx9LsIx.dpuf
If God speaks through the Holy Spirit… was she speaking about wounding Him, our Father? If that is the ONE UNFORGIVABLE sin, is it not fair to say that perhaps it does wound Heavenly Father’s heart or grieve Him when ANY of us commit the ONE UNFORGIVABLE sin? The soul He gave you has been lost to Him! I ask each of you, DO YOU KNOW WITHOUT A SHADOW OF A DOUBT, WHAT WAS IN HER HEART? ANY OF YOU? ONLY THE ALMIGHTY KNOWS WHAT IS IN OUR HEARTS. AMEN?!
Would not God find this out? For He knows the secrets of the heart.
Psalm 44:20-22 (in Context) Psalm 44 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations
And He said to them, “You are those who justify yourselves in the sight of men, but God knows your hearts; for that which is highly esteemed among men is detestable in the sight of God.
Luke 16:14-16 (in Context) Luke 16 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations
And God, who knows the heart, testified to them giving them the Holy Spirit, just as He also did to us;
Acts 15:7-9 (in Context) Acts 15 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations
and He who searches the hearts knows what the mind of the Spirit is, because He intercedes for the saints according to the will of God.
Romans 8:26-28 (in Context) Romans 8 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations
Signing off… In His Love and for His Glory. Always and forever, be the Glory to God.
His Light wrote:
We are not criticizing Kathryn Kuhlman. We are evaluating and testing her teaching in the light of the Word of God which, as you may know, is a command.
The healing of people is not necessarily a sign of good fruit. Satan is able to heal and often does so by means of the occult. Kathryn Kulhman had a spirit of divination. She could tell who in the audience were ill and who were supposedly healed. This is not from God and is indeed diabolical.
How many people have we healed? NONE, because it is not we ourselves who do the healing. Hopefully you don’t believe that you are doing the healing because that would make you a false prophet who boasts that you are able to heal people. The only people who boast that they can heal people are the shamans and witch doctors in Africa and Asia.
Read this article from The Berean Call.
You are deceived and need to turn to Christ for forgiveness. He commands you to beware of deception and you are being disobedient.
Exactly 5:45 minutes into the video above Kathryn Kuhlman makes a satanic hand sign. This is where it comes from.
The holy spirit.is a person he can be grieved and since he is a person cant he be a friend? The Bible tells us the joly spirit is grieved, to agree with that is not unorthodox. I once cried because people greive the holy spirit, he is my friend also, he is my friend because he is a person also he knows the depths of God but is also God ( theres a verse that talks about him knowing the depths of God the fathers heart. Hand gestures are hand gestures … there are many out there that we arent even aware of and they could be bad…I don’t want to be coming off harsh but…all I see is nit pickiness when I hear or see people`s comments about her. She is called a faith healer but.never liked to call herself that, she points to God as the source of the healings not herself, there has been organic and functional healings that took place, she repented from her marriage that was wrong and turned back to God. She repented as nd never wanted things pointed to her and people were brought to christ… this doesnt sound demonic, a kingdom cannot be divided against itself. If this is the holy spirit skeptist need to repent for grieving him.
I suggest that you make sure that the real Holy Spirit is your friend and not a false one.
The highest form of testing this spirits as biblixally commanded, is to gi and seek the face of God in fasting & prayers. This is so that God can speak or show to us, whether such minister’s are truly his or not. There’s no point taking pain killers over someone else’s headache. As for me, I have done my own test & my finding is that both katheryn & Benny Hinn are of the Living God.
Prayer and fasting are not going to help you one iota to disern whether people like Kathryn Kuhlman and Benny Hinn are false teachers or not. You are saying in effect, “I do not need God’s Word to discern between the true and the faslse. I can do it on my own through prayer and fasting.” Jesus never said “Sanctify them in prayer and fasting.” He said, “Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.” (John 17:17).
Thge Psalmist wrote, “Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. (Psalm 119:105) and not prayer and fasting.
You cannot rely on something you do to discern whether something is true or false. That’s just plain foolishness.
the whole picture of testing the spirits you get if you read I John 4:1-4 is one of INTERROGATING them. If some message given clearly contains wrong stuff, that is the end of it, but if it is ambiguous or doesn’t get on that key subject, you need to interrogate them, while they are talking to you or to someone else.
OK, Jesus INTERROGATED the demons and they said,
Now compare this to what 1 John 4:1-4 says. Here we hear the demons confessing that Jesus – who stood before them in the flesh – is the Son of God.
Well we are testing the spirits when it comes to you and what you believe. Tell me, do you not have faith that when God says He is going to remove Christians from this earth before the hour of testing, just as Noah escaped God’s wrath in (Genesis 7:1) so will the end times Christians be removed before God’s wrath explodes onto the earth during the tribulation.
And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth; I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name…Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
The bible says:
Rev 3:10: Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee FROM the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
I think we will believe the bible instead of you.
I agree with Thomas, we are going to cut you short because we have answered all your type of questions a million times on this website, if you really care to know the truth look up the category ‘rapture’ on this website and read the truth.
I am writing to urgently warn you against speaking negatively about Julio Ruibal’s ministry. YES, the kundalini yoga serpentine energy is very similar to the manifestation of the Holy Spirit, [deleted by DTW]
>> I am writing to urgently warn you
You are warning us? Why what will happen?
>> YES, the kundalini yoga serpentine energy is very similar to the manifestation of the Holy Spirit
Not it’s not, the Holy Spirit is in no way even remotely similar to kundalini. READ: The Biblical Holy Spirit vs.The False Unholy Spirit of Fire
If you are really saved and you love Jesus Christ with all your heart you will listen to what the bible has to say and get out of this delusion. Many people get caught up in this false spirit when they first get saved and then realise they were deceived and come out of it because they listen to the Holy Spirit’s warnings.
Kathryn Kuhlman was a false teacher who deceived many people into believing that many miracles of healing took place in her ministry. Like Benny Hinn, who allegedly received the anointing at her grave, she proclaimed another Jesus.
THE TRANSFORMATIONS VIDEO:
The Transformation video which has been widely distributed and excitedly accepted by many churches and Christians, was produced by the Sentinel Group of George Otis Junior. In this video four communities are presented and portrayed as radically transformed through revivals brought about by the spiritual warfare techniques of the Transformations movement. The four cities presented in this video are (1) Cali in Columbia, (2) Almolonga in Guatemala, (3) Kiambu in Kenya, and (4) Hemet in California. But are the wonderful claims in this video true? Since the release of the video, various groups, who have investigated the claims, found many of them false and exaggerated.
1. Cali, Columbia:
The Transformations video claims that the drug cartels were defeated and that the cults have decreased. It shows that Cali is a “safe” city, where a significant percentage of the population is now safe and revival flourishes. Where people once lived in fear, they now safely walk the streets.
The reality, though, is that there are still drug cartels operating from Cali, one commanding his operation from prison. The rebels, who protect the drug trade, are still attacking churches in Cali, shutting down many. The rebel group has closed churches, imposed a 6pm curfew on services where it allows churches to meet, and banned public religious activity in a territory under its control. The ELN, another rebel group, invaded a catholic church in Cali and kidnapped 140 members two months ago.
http://www.cnn.com, search for Cali, Columbia. http://www.usoloj.gov/dea/traffickers/Columbia.htm
Satanic groups are attacking churches and Christians, especially in Cali. Some churches have suffered repeated attacks, said Consuelo Zuluaga, a social worker in Justopaz.
According to the newsletter of Ruth Ruibal, the widow of the assassinated pastor Julio Ruibal, who is mentioned in the video, the situation in Cali is “a gross darkness” a city where her church must hire armed guards and where the church must be protected by barbed wire (soon to be replaced by a 10 – 12 foot wall if permission is granted). The assassin of Julio is free, and openly claimed to have killed Julio. He owns the land next to the church and is threatening to kill other family members.
It should also be noted here that Julio was killed because of a property dispute, not because of his religious endeavors.
Why did you delete my comment? If you are a true lover of Christ and are concerned with my salvation, you should leave my comment up and refute every aspect so other readers can learn. [deleted by DTW]
DTW note: Why do we deleted your comment, well first and foremost you threaten us! That is why we delete you comment. Secondly we delete your comment because you are not here to learn the truth, you want others to learn from your false teaching and you want to waste our time. If you read this website you will see that we have answered all your questions already.
Do anyone knows about Peter Cabrera? Torben Söndergaard among others that are doing street healings on youtube, Todd White etc?
Are they of God or a product of the jesuits???
Thanks for an answer.
Please remember that Satan is also quite capable of healing people.
Healing people and doing great signs and wonders are not necessarily proof that the person performing them is saved. John the Baptist whom Jesus said was the greatest among the prophets never performed a single miracle in his life. Don’t let their alleged miracles fool you.
I believe dat d bible is d highest authority in d life of a christian so,i believe in d bible with all my heart. I av tested d ministry of Kathryn Kuhlman & Benny Hinn using God’s word & found them to b true to God. Ascribing God’s workings to d devil is pharisaic & blasphemous. If u believe satan can heal,cant God do much more? d believe dat spiritual gifts av ceased is from d pit of hell. Jesus is d same yesterday,today & forever.Heb.13:8. If he healed in d past,then he still heals today cos he is alive & he does dis thru believers like kathryn & Benny…dont ever make d mistake of giving d devil d glory dat belongs to God.
Make sure you are reading and understanding the Bible and not your own reading of things into the Bible and understanding of the Bible. So, you also believe that mankind’s redemption was accomplished in hell and not on the cross? That’s pure blasphemy.
Please read here.
I would like to suggest that you repent of your evil to exalt Benny Hinn and Kathryn Kuhlman as ministers of God and to turn your back on them because they are leading you right into hell.
It’s funny. If anyone claims that they are Christians, then they WILL believe in healings, casting out of Devils and many signs and wonders. The critics are the same that would have crucified Christ….and they would have never believed Paul after his past. So if you are against Benny or Kathryn then who’s healing ministry are you for? The Christ said that we will do more than he, once the Holy Spirit comes….and he has come for sure. You cannot do anything in Christ without the Holy Spirit. You will scream Jesus and find that you HATE people who dont look like you, vote like you, act like you, dress like you, believe like you or are of the same race as you. Without the Holy Spirit you can ONLY lust or divide. There is nothing else. Satan is the GREAT deceiver and without the Holy Ghost no man, preacher, priest or some internet investigator can truly walk righteously before the Most High God in the name of Jesus. You will only find the yourself attacking the work of the Holy Ghost and living forever unforgiven.
>> The Christ said that we will do more than he
Because you interpret scripture incorrectly I would like to ask you this question based on your incorrect interpretation: Would you like to tell us exactly what MORE you can do than Jesus Christ. Jesus created the universe, what is it exactly that you plan on doing that is greater than that?
>> So if you are against Benny or Kathryn then who’s healing ministry are you for?
Jesus Christ’s healing ministry, you see Rob we go directly to Jesus and ask Him for healing etc we don’t need a middle man 🙂 Do you have a problem with going to Jesus direcctly for healing and if so why?
>> You will scream Jesus and find that you HATE people who dont look like you, vote like you, act like you, dress like you, believe like you or are of the same race as you.
Gosh you should look in a mirror and tell this to yourself because you hate us for telling the truth.
>> You will only find the yourself attacking the work of the Holy Ghost and living forever unforgiven.
Oh sigh, another misinterpretation of scripture. The unforgivable sin was for the Pharisees that told Jesus Christ to His face that he was doing the work of Satan.
Rob, why do you interpret scripture incorrectly? Because you are deceived by the likes of Benny Hinn etc? Or is it because you are just plain hard hearted and you don’t want to know the truth? Which is it?
He never said that we shall do more or greater works once the Hoy Spirit has come. He said that we shall do greater works if we believe. The Holy Spirit had not yet come when Moses parted the Red Sea and all the other miracles in Egypt. And by the way, John the Baptist never performed a single miracle in his entire life and yet Jesus called him the greatest prophet who ever lived (Matthew 11:11). When Jesus said that we shall do greater things if we believe, He did not mean that we shall do them because we believe we are capable of doing them. He simply said that if we believe on Him (are truly saved) we shall win souls for Him. Very few people came to a knowledge of salvation under the Lord’s ministry when He walked the earth. In contrast, his disciples had much more conversions once He ascended to heaven and sat on the right hand of his Father. These were the greater works. To win a soul to Christ is greater than raising the dead.
There are of course false signs and wonders (miracles) that come directly from Satan.
Whoever attributes to God what is of Satan are the ones who love unrighteousness because to “call evil good, and good evil; [to] put darkness for light, and light for darkness; [and] put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!” (Is 5:20) is wholly unrighteous.
Every human has faults, therefore no matter how genuine, no human can have a totally perfect ministry. They’d be flaws. Only Yeshua, the Christ was perfect.
1 John 4 vs 1 says to test spirits. However verse 2 and 3 tells us how to know which spirit is which. Verse 2: By this you know the Spirit of God, Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God.
1 Corinthians 12 verse 3 says: Therefore I make known to you that no one speaking by the Spirit of God calls Jesus accursed, and no one can say that Jesus is Lord except by the Holy Spirit.
The argument that every human has faults is not an excuse for preaching false doctrine. In fact Paul emphatically said,
Preaching and teaching false doctrine is a very serious offense and not just a fault or personality mishap. It takes those who preach it and those whom they mislead to hell.
1 John 4 verse 1 should be read together with Matthew 8:28-29:
Note that Jesus appeared before the demons in the flesh and they promptly acknowledged that He is God (the Son of God). Does that validate their wickedness and does it prove that they were of God? Makes you think, doesn’t it?
In 1 Corinthians 12:3 Paul dealt with false teachers among the Corinthians who claimed to have received visions, messages and revelations from God, whilst they emphatically denied that Jesus came in the flesh. Hence their maxim, “Jesus be accursed.” Paul warned the Corinthians not to believe and accept their visions, messages and revelation as being from God, whilst they cursed Jesus’ humanity.
So what you are implying is that ministers can preach error because they are human? Tell me something, the Apostles that wrote the books of the bible (inspired by the Holy Spirit) was their teaching flawed? If not, why not?
What a load of uncanny tripe! “Judge not that you be not judged.” This statement from atheism Lord Jesus Christ referred directly to CONDEMNING other people an not to discerning a truthful as well as merciful course of action toward someone who has lost his or her footing in error. Be careful how you judge because if your judgement becomes a condemnation of another’s soul then you are in dangerous territory.Picking out one statement by a person about the Holy Spirit and claiming this statement is false and evil is a dangerous thing to do.
I find it rather strange that your comment in which you accuse us of judging others is itself replete with judgment. Remove the mote from your own eye before you try to remove the beam from others’ Yes, one wrong statement about the Holy Spirit is damnable.
Did you notice He said “a word.” You don’t even have to make one false statement but merely a wrong word against the Holy Spirit to come into the judgment of the unforgivable sin.
“Judge not” is certainly the most often misquoted verse in the Bible. I have also learnt that people use that verse to hide their sinful lifestyles.
Hi Robbie. Exactly!
There’s such a difference between someone who only knows about salvation but denies the power of God to heal and perform miracles. Then there are those who say God can heal but they also don’t operate in miracles or healing. Then there are the rare exceptional diamonds, like Kathryn Kuhlman who obeyed God to the utmost, who died to self, so people all over the U.S. could be healed by Holy Spirit. The difference with Kathryn, she didn’t just know about salvation, she didn’t just know healing was possible, she had a personal intimate relationship with the healer, Jesus Christ and His Spirit, Holy Spirit. And she constantly taught people to honor Holy Spirit and Jesus. She lifted up the Savior, Jesus in all of her meetings and acknowledged Jesus as her Savior, her everything. Hardly what Satan would do. If Satan lifted up Jesus and the Holy Spirit, he would divide and destroy his kingdom. Those who speak against Kathryn and her ministry are speaking against the founder of her ministry, Jesus Christ and His Holy Spirit.
You said “Hardly what Satan would do. If Satan lifted up Jesus and the Holy Spirit, he would divide and destroy his kingdom.”
Satan has built his kingdom and his counterfeit church here on earth using the likes of Kathryn Kuhlman, Benny Hinn, Kenneth Copeland and the rest of the hordes of demonic ministers of righteousness. But their end shall be according to their works!
The below verse proves that you can preach using the name of Jesus, perform miracles using the name of Jesus, cast out demons using the name of Jesus, prophecy using the name of Jesus but the Jesus they follow is ANOTHER JESUS, ANOTHER GOSPEL and ANOTHER SPIRIT then Jesus Christ the Son of God will say to them, “I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity”
Daniel, the power of God is NOT to heal people and perform miracles. This is the power of God:
Kathryn never preached the cross. In fact, she boasted that it was her love for people that healed them.
I never heard or read that Kathryn Kuhlman said, that she healed anyone . She always said she did nothing the Holy Spirit did it all . She quoted Scripture all the time. Satan knows scripture better then most . I do not and have not seen anything that Kathryn Kuhlman did as a false profit. Many lies have been said . I’ve studied her for everyday for over a year now . I believe in the Father,Son and Holy Ghost. And she felt all 3 like they with her all the time . But she was human.We have all sinned ! Who has not sinned throw the first stone .
The Holy Spirit does not heal. Show me a verse in the bible where He heals us physically?
Please read: https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2012/06/23/biblical-holy-spirit-unholy-spirit-fire/ ( Discerning the difference between the Holy Spirit and the Kundalini Spirit of Fire)