Kobus van Rensburg – Self Anointed Prophet

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Kobus van Rensburg – Self Anointed Prophet

Kobus van Rensburg (Spirit Word Ministries) is a ‘prophet’ from South Africa. He follows the word of faith doctrine and dominion theology. I have watched him a few times on TV and all I can do is just shake my head in dismay – he is one of those preachers that can talk for hours but says nothing. When he gives a prophecy it rhymes like a poem! And he views himself in a very good light as being extremely sought after to bring the ‘good news’ to the nations.

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KOBUS THE PROPHET:

kobusvanrensburg-aboutKobus van Rensburg has appointed himself as a prophet and Kobus van Rensburg has a pace setting church. I ask, how can one set the pace of Christianity? No human can determine the future of the Church. I think what Kobus means by this statement is that he (along with many other so called ministers) are setting the pace for deception and the ushering in of the anti-Christ. His Church’s main focus is signs and wonders – interestingly enough these signs, miracles and wonders appear without the preaching of salvation. Miracles only ever happened in the New Testament after the Word was preached, to confirm Gods Word of salvation, never before.

T.B. JOHSUA AND KOBUS VAN RENSBURG:

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Kobus says that he and his wife are the ‘sole’ founders of Spirit Word Ministries. So is he saying that God had nothing to do with it? Hmmmm…But here is the clincher. Kobus went to see T. B. Joshua. Now, if you don’t know who T. B. Joshua is, then let me give you a brief outline. T. B. Joshua is also a self proclaimed prophet that has openly commented that he was born with his power.He produces ‘miracles’ like it’s going out of fashion and says they are from God.

He has a big poster hanging in is temple that says; ‘There is no deity (god) except Allah.’  And then a crucifix hangs near the poster.” There is no question that Joshua sends mixed signals. Although he prays in the name of Jesus, many of his methods are unorthodox. He converses with angels during sermons, speaks of traveling to other places in the spirit realm and has been known to ask people to walk through the audience naked to prove their healings. Some Nigerian leaders claim that animal sacrifices have been performed in Joshua’s church to generate a source for occult power. The pastors contend that this is the reason Joshua does not travel to other countries to conduct meetings.” 1

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Now Kobus says that the ‘signs and wonders’ in his church increased after he visited T. B. Joshua and the ‘Holy Spirit’ fell on him in a ‘very special way’. Last time I checked when one becomes saved you instantly receive the Holy Spirit for he leads us into all truth and is our comforter. You don’t get saved and then on another occasion receive the Holy Spirit. There is not a second or third time either to receive the Holy Spirit. When you accept Jesus into your life the Holy Spirit comes to abide in you immediately. He is not just attached to specific people and He is not more powerful with certain people either and He certainly cannot be transferred through touch or whatever medium T. B. Joshua used to pass this spirit onto Kobus van Rensburg. So Kobus with all his godly anointing went and sought after a man with demonic power and it was passed onto him. Remembering that T. B. Joshua said he was born with his power…so it does not come from God to begin with.

PS:  there is only ONE anointing Kobus – not multiple ones and this ONE anointing is NOT transferable.

Kobus says he is bringing the ‘Light and Fresh Glory’ into the church of Jesus Christ. What a horrendous comment to make. Jesus Christ is the Light and Glory of the church. But Kobus says he now brings fresh light and fresh glory into the church as though the message that Jesus Christ taught, that’s stood the test of time is stale. So Jesus, salvation and repentance of sin, the complete gospel message of the cross is boring and what Jesus spoke has no relevance in this day and age.

You go on to say that you are a sought after pastor because you ‘reveal present day truths’. What on earth does that mean? There is nothing new over and above the bible; the Word of God remains the same yesterday, today and tomorrow. Yet you expand on the bible and bring forth new revelation constantly. The old message is no longer applicable to this 21st century, the old message no longer applies to our world and culture and this is why there is a NEW message with NEW truths. Well I am sorry Kobus, but there are no new truths and no new revelations, and anyone who claims to have such things preaches a gospel that is contrary to the true gospel of Jesus Christ.  If you claim the Word of God as final and at the same time claim you have new truths for this day and age then you contradict yourself – which is it?  You can’t have your cake and eat it.

WHAT HAPPENS AT SPIRIT WORD MINISTRIES

Watch his videos on his website where he slays people in the spirit. He uses words like BAM BAM (I wonder if he taught Todd Bentley?) as he knocks people over with his invisible power like he is some kind of super hero. But interestingly enough he also makes a swoosh sound which I have heard before in other preachers who slay people using the same ‘spirit’. Who are you channeling Kobus?  No where in the bible is anyone knocked over like this, and when people did fall it was in judgment or willingly in reverence to our Lord Jesus.  – The manifestations of your ‘holy spirit’ are likened to Kundalini.

Kobus says that in meetings where he is preaching Jesus Christ is really showing up.  Really?  Wonder if he is speaking about Himself.

Jesus specifically said in:

Matthew 24: 23

“Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. 24 For there shall arise false Christ’s, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.”

Kobus, tsk, tsk…have you considered that the Jesus that is showing up is a false Christ (let me explain further; a fake Jesus Christ) or are you making this up to deceive others into thinking you are really anointed, that Jesus Christ Himself would grace you with His presence?

ADVERTISEMENT FOR A CRUCIFIX ON THEIR WEBSITE:

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AND THEY FOUND WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR:

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Why are you seeking a Roman Catholic Crucifix? With all your ‘anointing’ (multiple ones at that), how did you come to ignore the Holy Spirit on this issue? Did you wake up one morning with biblical amnesia and forget that Roman Catholicism is anti-Christ? Or is it because you actually believe in Ecumenism and that one day soon you will have a sermon on the Holy Mother of God and another sermon on all religions lead to one God? Judging by the fact that you visited T. B. Joshua I would say the latter rings very true.

Jesus Said It Is Finished!  

By Keith Green:  The Catholic Chronicles 2

“Every true believer loves the sound of these words: It is finished! (John 19:30). For it is the wonderful exclamation that the Lords suffering was finally over – He had fulfilled His mission! Jesus had lived a Life of Sorrow, bearing the burden of a world gone mad. He had been rejected by everyone, even His closest friends. He had lived a perfect life before men and God, and His reward on earth was to be laughed at, spat upon, beaten beyond recognition, and finally nailed to a cross. But He had submitted willingly, because it was the will of His Father to offer Him as the satisfaction of the penalty for all the sin in the world – past, present and future!

But here, in the words of a Roman Catholic priest, is the true meaning of the words it is finished! These words do not declare that His sacrifice was finished, but that He had finished His former, normal, earthly life and was now fixed in the state of a victim. He then began His everlasting career as the perpetual sacrifice of the new law. Hence, according to Rome, Jesus must be forever perpetually dying for sin.

Have you ever wondered why in every Catholic Church they still have Jesus up on the cross? Every crucifix with Jesus portrayed as nailed to it, tells the whole Catholic story – Jesus is still dying for the sins of the world! But that’s a lie! We need only look to the Scriptures to see the truth.”

SIGNED PRAYER CLOTH:

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It says, “God has really anointed Prophet Kobus van Rensburg in this ministry of miracles. Carry this cloth with you or just put your hand on the hand of Prophet Kobus & agree for your miracle.”You’ve got to be kidding. Just put your hand on the hand of Prophet Kobus and agree for your miracle? – with advertising and everything printed on the same cloth.Are you God? Oh wait, you follow word of faith/dominion theology;  of which Kenneth Copeland, Benny Hinn, Morris Cerullo, T. D. Jakes and a whole host of others say ‘yes, I am a god’  This is Latter Rain Manifest Sons of God teaching. They believe that when you accept Jesus Christ into your life you actually start to become like Christ, you become a little god…really…I wish I was kidding, but its true people.

It’s not that God has anointed Kobus, it’s that Kobus has a little god anointing.

Folks, I don’t know what kind of spirit comes with this cloth (well actually I do), and it is NOT of God. The spirit that is passed on at these meetings is a counterfeit holy spirit that appears good but is not. I am told that people are really healed when Kobus prays for them. I don’t doubt that for one second. Satan can perform healing and he is not dividing his kingdom if he takes away an illness and gives you something more damaging, like making sure you follow Kobus’ false teachings right into his clutches.

REVIVAL:

On Kobus’ website in the following sermon:4

“Kobus says, only when the all things have been restored will Jesus come again. He is going to stay in heaven at the right hand of the Father. From God’s presence must first come times of refreshing. That refreshing will cause the restoration. If we seek God, we will get revival. If revival comes, restoration of all the things of which the prophets of old spoke about will come and then Jesus will return.”

Africanaquatics says:3

“This is Restoration/Dominion theology which advocates that Christians should take power of the earth, create dominion and then, only then, will Jesus come back. Not only does this belittle and demean our Saviour, but it makes men into little demi-gods. What is fundamental to understanding the last days before Jesus comes back, is the fact that Jesus Himself said there would be an APOSTASY, a falling away, before He comes back. NOT a Revival! Anyone who preaches or prophesies revival of the western church (the church of Laodicea) in the last days is biblically illiterate.

The Laodicean church is lukewarm, comfortable, rich, preaching what people want to hear, not what they should be hearing and if you read Revelation 3, Jesus is ready to spit this church out of His mouth! How true this is of the church of today!”

What does the Bible say?

2 Tim 4: 3-4

“3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.”

2 Peter 2: 1-3

“But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2 Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 3 In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.”

Jer 5: 30-31

“30 A wonderful and horrible thing is committed in the land; 31 The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so.”

KOBUS VAN RENSBURG ON CARTE BLANCHE – 21 Aug 2005 [5]

Well know, this is telling.  Ruda Landman interviews Kobus van Rensburg with regards to his ministry and healings. Quotes below:

Ruda Landman (Carte Blanche presenter): ‘How does it feel when you’re standing there and this power, this spirit, is running through you?’

Kobus: ‘It’s not me. I think it is I have found a secret how to allow God to flow through me. Like a big pipe that is connected to the water tower; if you open it, the water will come out.’

[DTW note:  You have found the secret?  Why is it a secret Kobus?  Where in the Bible does God have secrets and why are you the only one with this secret and no one else?  The only knowledge that is secretive is the Occult;  hidden wisdom.]

Ruda: ‘Don’t you think it could be dangerous, sometimes physically dangerous, that there are things that might be happening that you don’t… you are not a doctor… you don’t understand what is going on?’

Kobus: ‘No I don’t think so. I think I am busywith God’s business and God will vindicate for us. I am not trying to exalt Kobus van Rensburg, I am not trying to exalt myself.

[DTW note:  You sure sound confident that it’s really God that is working through you.  You think you are busy with God’s business?  You think?]

Kobus: ‘Or as Romans 2:7 says, we must seek immortality. Now we are not made to die, that’s right. Everybody fights death. We are not made to die.’

[DTW note:  Errr, immortality on this earth you forgot to mention.  Genuine Christians have eternal life in Heaven.  What you are speaking about is Mysticism, Christ consciousness teaching.  That we should seek to be gods on this earth, and gods are immortal.]

Kobus: ‘Why can the world prosper, but the church are not supposed to prosper. I produce the Kingdom of God, I present Jesus Christ, I give people life, I give them the Word, I give them healing, see. So they give me money. That’s how the word of God always operated.’

[DTW note:  YOU produce, YOU present, YOU give people life, YOU give them the Word, YOU give them healing?  So you are a little god!  Please supply 1 verse to to show that when Jesus healed people they gave Him money?]

KOBUS CAN’T BE TOUCHED, HE IS ANOINTED, HE IS A PROPHET;  WITH A SPIRIT HE THINKS IS FROM GOD:

kobusvanrensburg-anointedImage taken from a website dedicated to Kobus Van Rensburg:  http://spiritword.222.co.za

Wonder what the number 222 represents and why Spiritword would have chosen it?   Let’s go see:

*  Oneness vs. Division

* “The numerical value of these three “offspring” letters, “Beis,” “Chaf” and “Reish, is 222, reflecting the divided components of creation.”

* “But this division is only superficial, for in truth, all existence is part of G-d. Judaism recognizes no duality in creation. The oneness of G-d, the cosmic “Aleph,” pervades all existence, filling each centimeter of space and each millisecond in time with its spiritual energy, that vibrates in every blade of grass, every human heart and every grazing animal. This oneness is concealed and veiled, allowing for the perception of a divided world of “222.” But in truth, the entire cosmos is really one giant Aleph” 6

  • Pantheism – God is All
  • Panentheism – God is in All
  • Therefore Kobus van Rensburg is a god; part of one giant Aleph.

CONCLUSION:

Kobus van Rensburg is NOT anointed, he is NOT a prophet, he is NOT a god and he sure as nuts does NOT operate under the Holy Spirit. For if he did, he would NOT be doing what he is doing, preaching what he is preaching and visiting the men/women he is visiting.

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Resources:
1 http://www.charismamag.com/display.php?id=673
2 http://www.gracegems.org/7/catholic_chronicles.htm
3 www.africanaquatics.co.za/_christian/_articles/kvrensburg.htm
4 www.spiritword.org.za/Sermons/English/STEC/sermonTimesofRevival.htm
5 http://www.mnet.co.za/Mnet/Shows/carteblanche/Story.asp?Id=2870
6 http://www.jewish-holiday.com/kabnumbers.html
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Deborah Ellish is the author of the above article. Discerning the World is an internet Christian Ministry based in Johannesburg South Africa. Tom Lessing and Deborah Ellish both own Discerning the World. For more information see the About this Website page below the comments section.

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Clement
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People who are able to prove that a dollar bill is fake usually do so by knowing the genuine one. Kindly show me the genuine power of the Holy Ghost that you have before before you can criticize Prophet Kobus. Thank you.

Pat
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It is interesting to read such condemning comments on this side about Prophet Kobus, the expository teacher of the Word. Nowonder, this is not a debate with him, the question I have, trace the people that claim to have been healed, and ask them what they think of him. In fact it would be encouraging to have this site displaying the impact of your ministry, and how people are being helped for the glory of God, rather than this obsession about Prophet Kobus van Rensberg. I will be visiting your church where answers / solutions are provided unto the heavy laden. Please give the address, after I visited SPirit Word Monistries, I am coming to visit yours to make a comparison, to experience the fruits of your ministry, just to make sure you are not this condemning because you are failing to make a difference in the lives of your followers. Make a tree good, and its fruits will be good; vice versa is true.

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I watched a episode of Kobus van Rensburg on TBN where he went to the States to the grave of William Branham.He acted as if he was drunk. He hugged the tomb stone and the grave stone as if he was worshipping the dead, so called, man of God. Who is William Branham. Just a mortal man. Any one who can do that must be missing something in his make up. Any thing this man says or does should not be regarded seriously. He is definitely not kosher. His followers must just be the same.

Which is a shame because people like this prey on the emotionally weak and needy. He is just like Theo Wolmarance and all the health, wealth and faith club. He acts like he is a man of god and very one falls at his feet. He might come across as sincere but he also come across as a charlatan. I would avoid him like the plague.

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Hallo Debs !
I pray you are “coping” . . .

I recently did a very useful Bible study with my home groups about suffering and what to make of it… We also had a look at God’s answer to suffering and I took them to the 7 letters to the seven churches in Revelations.

Apart from the fact that God approves of a discernment lifestyle(Rev 2: 1-3) ,we also read the following regarding poverty and poor living conditions.
Rev 2:8 And to the angel of the church in Smyrna write: These things saith the first and the last, who was dead, and lived again:
Rev 2:9 I know thy tribulation, and thy poverty (but thou art rich), and the blasphemy of them that say they are Jews, and they art not, but are a synagogue of Satan.
Rev 2:10 Fear not the things which thou art about to suffer: behold, the devil is about to cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days. Be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee the crown of life.
Rev 2:11 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith to the churches. He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.

The word “poverty” used in verse 2 is the word ptocheia in Greek and literally means to be “poor, helpless and a beggar, financially poor and in need”. (Greek Word study dictionary- Spiros Zodhiates)
We read that Jesus says that he KNOWS this. Remember, Jesus is talking here in person through the angel to this church!
Now the question begs: What does Jesus do about their poverty situation?
Yep, you guessed it, He commandeers His prosperity-preaching-Apostle to go and tell this church the GOOD NEWS that “Jesus died on the cross to save them from their financial poverty and tribulations!”(this Quote from book of Joseph Prince – Destined to Reign)!
Is this what happened ? NO! What does happen is that Jesus gives John a NEW revelation (which is unfortunately not recorded in the Bible) about the “correct usage” of scripture. He, John, must go and anoint this church with a financial blessing by SPEAKING and PROCLAIMING words of financial blessing and freedom from suffering and they, the church in Smyrna, must in return give him GOLD. This will then make them all prosperous! Apostle John can then trade his donkey for a horse drawn cart with golden curtains and… OK, you get the point ….
Yes, Jesus acknowledges their situation and brings them more “bad” news that it will become even more difficult BUT Jesus gives them a promise with a condition nl. If they are faithful and pass this test, they will be rewarded WHEN THEY DIE !

Interesting to note that this church is NOT commanded to “bind” or “rebuke” the Devil!

Remember, we are living in a TEMPORARY life here on earth. We are sojourners living in tents that might get torn by the storms of live and spring a leak or two … so what? … it is only temporary.

Paul knew this when he wrote: Php 4:11 Not that I speak in respect of want: for I have learned, in whatsoever state I am, therewith to be content.
Php 4:12 I know both how to be abased, and I know how to abound: every where and in all things I am instructed both to be full and to be hungry, both to abound and to suffer need.
…and then in light of enduring all the above, Paul concludes in the next verse:
Php 4:13 I can do all things through Christ which strengthens me.

This is the true meaning of this scripture. Jesus will give you strength to endure the hardships and also the restraint not to boast when you have plenty.

Fellow believers, this is the God of Abraham, Isac and Jacob whom we serve in Jesus. When HE gives you a reward, it is an eternal reward. It is not an “earthly” reward that will perish someday. No, His reward is a nonperishable, eternal reward that will last for ever and ever.
Let us then pray for the sick and the poor. Lets help them as God instructs you to. If God heals, Praise Him but if nothing changes, accept it and keep on being faithful to Him. We must realize that God allows these “tests” to test us.

I always tell my people that if I say that I am a “Tea bag”, I must be tested. How? You will have to put me in boiling hot water ! OUCH ! not nice BUT it will prove me true or false. I tea comes out of me I am true BUT if something else comes out, I am fake !
This is true then for our faith as well. It must be tested. You must see what comes out in your character when you land in difficulties, learn from it, repent and correct your ways.
Lastly, we are commanded to conform to the image of Jesus.
Heb 5:8 “Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered”.
AMEN ?

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Deborah (Discerning the World) wrote:

Arthur
… In fact he started to act a little mad at William Branham’s grave and started to chomp away at the grass at the side of the pyramid shaped tomb stone….

I know of a king who also went crazy when God judged him for his arrogance and pride. Nebuchadnezzar in Dan 4:18-33.
What do we make of Kobus and his “craziness” at the grave ?
Well Jesus said that we shall know then by their fruit. Mmmmm . . . It is the first time I see that the “fruit of the Spirit” is eating grass at a grave site on national Television! Maybe this was a “prophetic act” of what is to come – like the dream of Nebuchadnezzar before the REAL thing happens some time later ???
Just wondering….

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Die duiwel en ander vals predikers glo ook in Jesus, maar;
– die duiwel en ander vals predikers ken Jesus se naam, maar Jesus ken nie hulle name nie
– duiwel en ander vals predikers is nie weergebore nie; soos Nicodemus waar Jesus gese het, “Jy die hoer priester v Israel…”
– duiwel en ander vals predikers het nie Jesus in hulle harte nie!
– duiwel en ander vals predikers is nie gehoorsaam aan Sy Woord nie, maar gebruik die Woord om te versoek

Gehoorsaamheid aan Sy Woord hou die deur vir satan toe. Ongehorsaamheid maak die deur vir satan…., oop!

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Deborah
Thanks a lot for the enlightenment you shed for us on your informative website regarding the false christs of our lifetime. I would just like to draw your attention on a particular comment you made about the “present day truth”. As you know that the spirits of false christs and false prophets are out there to twist the scriptures, I believe that Kobus Van Rensburg is simply abusing the doctrine of present day truth. I understand the doctrine of present day truth as expounded in the New Testament from the book 2Peter 1:12 “Wherefore I will not be negligent to put you always in remembrance of these things, though ye know them, and be established in the present truth.”
My understanding is that present day truth does not necessarily mean that there is the new and stale truth neither does it seek to communicate any new truth outside of scripture. It simply seeks to reveal part of the truth not communicated in the first instance. Examples are as follows:
– The Samaritan Woman only knew the mountain as a worship centre, but Jesus transitioned her into the knowledge that the worship centre has now become spirit and truth as God is Spirit

– Apostle Paul states that the law had to be written on stones for Moses to minister the truth of God to Israel, but today we dont need any Moses to go to the mountain anymore as the law of God is written on the tables of our hearts not with ink but with the Spirit of God. (Examples are countless)
Finally the doctine of present day truth helps us understand how God communicates the same truth using different methods that he ordained for a particular generation or season (past, present and future) without opening any room for carnal additions that would lead to heresies. Therefore anybody propagating the doctrine of present day truth should guard against preaching anything outside of scripture.

Please lets engage further on the subject as I need your response and view of my comments above. Once more thanks for keeping us informed of the perils of the present day as prophesied by the holy scriptures.
Thanks Sister.

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I find that this article has a lot of emotionalism and hate. SOme of the comments were perhaps founded but the way they were set out was like some hate movement and i think you too need to go and work out your salvation., whether this guy is the real deal or not you have no right to use the tone you used in your article. where is the love of God here ? You have misguided facts as well basing them on things you read -go there yourself and show us the poster of allah, dont tell me that so and so wrote this -i know the media they lie all the time to sell . You are also a weird one for your interpretation of scripture and what not . get off your high chariot and win souls for the kingdom no fanning hate in the body.

Tom (Discerning the World)
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Truth

You cannot win souls for the kingdom when you tell people God did not plan for us to die and go to heaven one day because immorality can be attained on earth. And yes, I suppose Paul of Tarsus was very emotional and overtaken by hatred when he wrote:

I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. (Galatians 1:6-8)

We really don’t need misguided facts to understand Kobus van Rensburg’s own words that he was immortal. That in itself warrants Paul’s indictment in Galatians 1. Are you immortal?

Mike
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Anyone who claims special or ‘secret’ knowledge of God outside of the canon of the Bible is a gnostic. It is a severe heresy because it is an attempt at self-glorification above Jesus and designed to mislead people away from the true Word do God.
Christians cannot believe in modern day prophets (who claim to speak the word of God), because the Word became flesh and lived among us, and the Word is complete and sealed in the canon of the Bible. Nothing may be added or deleted from it. To believe otherwise is simply in direct conflict with the Bible and consistent Christian teaching.
Van Rensburg, as with many others is a false gnostic prophet who is a forgery. He may look, sound and smell like the real thing, but he isn’t.
Well done for exposing him.

Darlene
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“Do not touch my anointed”. You better seek God on these witch hunts, for when you come against God, s anointed you come against God Himself. God tells us to choose life. Why do you dispense words of death? Repent before it’s too late. I am praying for you.

Darlene
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You misinterpret to others, for you lack understanding from God. The anointing of God is His presence for ministry. We all carry a measure of His anointing, according to our faith walk with Him……but when HE sovereignly shows up in a meeting, the
anointing is stronger, tangible, powerful.
His faith, not ours, takes over. If we walk in
self righteousness, judgment, pride, etc
His anointing will not be released to fools.
He will not be mocked. There is a corporate
anointing Walking in the anointing is learned through experiencing with God….not with the mind.

Tom (Discerning the World)
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Darlene,

How sure are you that your so-called anointing is from God and not from Satan? Satan wants you to experience things in stead of relying on God’s Word.

Tom (Discerning the World)
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Darlene,

We really do not need your prayers when you first curse us and then piously say you pray for us. How long was Kobus van Rensburg’s corpse kept in your church while you and others prayed for his resurrection and NOTHING happened? You are so right, I don’t want to touch him with a ten foot pole.

John Andrews UK/Ireland
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Darlene wrote:

You misinterpret to others, for you lack understanding from God. The anointing of God is His presence for ministry. We all carry a measure of His anointing, according to our faith walk with Him……but when HE sovereignly shows up in a meeting, the
anointing is stronger, tangible, powerful.
His faith, not ours, takes over. If we walk in
self righteousness, judgment, pride, etc
His anointing will not be released to fools.
He will not be mocked. There is a corporate
anointing Walking in the anointing is learned through experiencing with God….not with the mind.

Kobus van Rensburg was influenced by Kenneth Copeland and others who tried to explain the anointing in various ways such as the following insightful words from KC’s site on understanding the anointing:

*Anointing, as described in the Bible, can be defined as “God on flesh doing those things that flesh cannot do.” It is God doing those things only He can do, and doing them through a flesh-and-blood, earthly vessel*

Read carefully that he states that there are things that only God can do. KC then carries on to say that God would do the things only He can do “and doing them through a flesh-and-blood earthly vessel” insinuating that KC and like minded false prophets and apostles could then do the same? KC quotes 2 Cor 4:7 to back this up:

2 Corinthians 4:7 “But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellence of the power may be of God and not of us”.

Typical of false preachers is to pounce on a word such as “power” and misuse its meaning to imply miraculous power bestowed on “the anointed” by God. Context as we should know by now is all important.

Now Darlene you say that: “The anointing of God is His presence for ministry”. It seems that “God sovereignly shows up” in meetings? (nogal). Scripture to back this up? No, so your prophet has this knowledge that he took to the grave with him?

I have personally heard Kobus van Rensburg use four letter words from the pulpit and also Angus Buchan (on YouTube) use four letter word. Not that using a four letter word would be a requirement to be called a false preacher or apostle, but control of uttering such while “under the anointing”?
The likes of these guys will never fail to amaze, but hopefully only the deceived will be amused.

I recall that Deborah or Thomas asked for examples of “healings” done by KvR. I can say that I know of a man from Cape Town that was “healed” of a heart condition to only die of this condition a couple of years later at an age that would be considered young by today’s standards. So I sincerely believe that had this man sought medical attention he would have been alive today – but he kept on insisting that he had been healed.

So according to Darlene: God’s faith takes over in KvR meetings? If God had taken over the heart would have been only partially or “for a short while” been healed? Think lady think……..