Andrew Wommack – False Teacher
Bethel Church is becoming his favourite playground for spewing his heresy…
“God has already placed His healing power within us, and it is now under our authority. It isn’t up to God to determine who receives healing; it’s up to us!”
“The Lord never told us to pray for the sick in the sense that we ask Him to heal them. He told us to heal the sick.”Andrew Wommack, Faith For Healing Is Based On Knowledge.
Andrew Wommack believes in the “Word of Faith” theology that conceives of faith as a force conveyed by words that bring about reality. If you say, “I think I’m going to get a cold” you will actually create the cold (unless someone else counters your negative words by saying something positive). All of this takes place independently of God.
In his series titled “The Believer’s Authority”. Andrew Wommack tells the story of when his infant son kept waking up all through the night with symptoms of croup so severe that he could hardly breathe. This happened every half hour all night long. Finally his mother said, “Admit it Andy, he’s sick.” Andrew Wommack said,
“Man I got right down in her face and stuck my finger in her face and I said, ‘Satan in the name of Jesus I command you to shut up. … And for two days she never said a word. We were on vacation. It was an awesome vacation – you can imagine.”The Believer’s Authority (https://awmsa.net/product/the-believer-039-s-authority-e-book-pdf)
Andrew Wommack teaches that God gave man all authority on earth, so God Himself had no authority. The reason Jesus had to come in human flesh was to gain that human authority. He teaches that God had limited His own authority by giving it to man such that God was unable to speak Jesus’ body into existence. And so God had to find men to do it on their authority. It took God 4000 years to find enough men with enough combined authority to create Jesus’ body. Apart from the help of men God was unable to create a body for Jesus.
Andrew Wommack utters this blasphemy:
“When (people) see that some sickness, disease, tragedy comes into their life, instead of taking their authority and rebuking the devil and commanding him to leave, instead they go to God … and they beg God, ‘Oh God please change this situation. Oh God please get the devil off my back.’ And it’s not within God’s power and authority. He gave us that power and authority.”The Believer’s Authority (https://awmsa.net/product/the-believer-039-s-authority-e-book-pdf)
2 Timothy 4:3-4 “3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.”
Source: Robbie van Staden
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The saddest thing about deception is that thousands, if not millions, are being led astray on a path to hell (Proverbs 14:12). Jesus said:
How many people who would really have wanted to go to heaven, will be in hell one day because someone misled them? I have pleaded with some of our friends who are in The Base Church in Mulderdrift, Krugersdorp, (NAR, WOF) to come out from among them, but to no avail. Quoting to them from the Bible is just plain useless because they have been zapped to believe everything their pastor says from the day he slew them in the spirit and zapped them with a demon who purports to be the Holy Spirit who makes them to speak in tongues. When I read a few passages to my daughter in law word for word from the Bible, she looked at me with blank staring eyes and said, “Dad, that’s just your opinion.” The only thing you can say to them is what Paul once said, “And now, behold, I know that ye all, among whom I have gone preaching the kingdom of God, shall see my face no more. Wherefore I take you to record this day, that I am pure from the blood of all men. (Acts 20:25-26). He was, of course referring to Ezekiel 33:1-9.
I was once deceived by Wommack and the other WOF heretics. I think I read that Copeland declared him to be a prophet or apostle or both. He can be seen in the audience when Copeland pronounced the protest against Catholicism over and bowed to Francis the Talking Pope. It is tragic to see so many taking him seriously when he states that a demon brought about the Reformation. (In truth, Satan hindered and corrupted the Reformation by the retention of doctrines such as infant baptism and the Gnostic doctrines of Calvin.)
Because twisted scripture and the false visions and personal revelations of exalted leaders are the foundation of Pentecostalism, its blinded adherents are nearly impossible to get through to. Like the Galatians, they have been “bewitched”.
One minister I listen to says cult leaders such as Joseph Smith were high level witches whose spirits dominate their followers. As an ex-charismatic who followed shamans like Kenneth Hagin, I believe this is true. Now that I am in my right mind again, I cannot believe how I could have taken people such as him seriously. If you had told me at the age of 13 that I would throw my life away and study at a college run by someone who believed Christ walked into his hospital room and began to chat to him, I’d have laughed and thought it a preposterous notion. Yet multitudes of bewitched people believe all manner of ridiculous things from the mouths of these rich, modern – day versions of Simon the Sorcerer inc numerous trips to heaven, angelic encounters etc. Ironically, those of us speaking against it are viewed as having the spirit of AntiChrist!
Thanks, Mike for sharing with us your own experiences in the WOF and how God delivered you. A word you used that stood out more clearly to me is “bewitched.” As you know it means to “be in awe of” or “fascinated by.” When speaking to people in the ranks of WOF they always refer to the “power” supposedly exerted by the false apostles and how awesome it is. Although they love to use the well-known verse, “Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.” (Heb 11:1), their faith is actually based on what they see (the things which they allegedly speak into existence by the words of their mouth). It is the exact opposite of Hebrews 11:1. Steve Wilson, a WOF crony Of NCMI who preached at The Base Church, Krugersdorp recently affirms that healing is in the atonement and therefore everyone should live in divine health. He said this with his divine spectacles doing a balancing act on his crooked nose. Oh, wait a minute. wearing glasses is not an indication of some kind of infirmity in the eyes. It is just a way to see the people you are leading astray into hell so much the better.
There’s actually more I want to say about this, but for now (limited time & an almost-dead computer & a sprained wrist.. making it difficult to type…) I will say that I, too, (sigh!!) “fell for” Andrew Womack! Even went to one of his “speeches”…. DH & I looked at each other with crooked smiles when Womack likes to claim he attended Baptist “Cemetary” (he thinks it’s a cute twist of meaning “seminary”, but this is his way of saying it’s SO boring!) Looking back, I, too wonder what on earth I was thinking? And I love my husband with all my heart, but admittedly he falls for whoever calls themselves a Christian!! I simply mean in believing they TRULY ARE just b/c they CLAIM to be. Therefore, he is not a good spiritual leader and just let me go off, following all the whims of charismania!! Like Eve, I was offering him a bite of the forbidden fruit I was indulging in.
Though I was not clear whether that was Andy’s wife or mother who said, “face it, he’s sick” ~ even so, I was soooo glad that was not me in her shoes…. Biting her head off the way he did!! Certainly no respect there.
Okay, get this folks! And Mike Evans, I’m going to borrow from your last line:
Amen to this! I’ve had a lady who (my DH knows) who helped me quite a bit after major surgery last spring – help by texting, emailing, getting to know each other that way – we have yet to meet for lunch what with differing schedules, so it’s weird, though she lives nearby, we don’t know each other THAT WELL yet.
Well, recently she was trying to tell me about a book by Mark Taylor. I sent her a rather long email explaining how he’s a false prophet. OUCH!! She didn’t like that. See, I live in “charismatic capital” of the world! At any rate, she finally responded telling me she was “taken aback” and that it was HARSH!!!! And that (her words) we won’t know how it (rapture/end times) is going to play out…. Uh, I disagree with THAT statement!! We CAN know if we stick to God’s Word ALONE & quit listening to every Tom, Dick & Harry who comes along claiming they’ve looked into a crystal ball & know the future. From 2 Peter 1: Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
Also Mark Taylor directly blasphemes the Holy Spirit by claiming, “The Spirit of God says…” [Really ?? Does the Spirit of God tell us WRONG DATES?? And claim the Republicans are going to take the house, when it fact it was the Democrats?? I could go on, but these are prime examples…]
So yes, when we share the Truth, we do get beat up often. But I told my DH that even if it costs me every friend I have, (and believe me, it almost has!) then I must stand on the Word of God & not back down! And I must let people know when they’re following a wolf. If she found it harsh, it’s because I will NOT compromise on the Word of God – or be Miss Goodie Two Shoes about it, afraid I’m going to “hurt someone’s feelings”!!
Just about every female I know still “follows” and cherishes Joyce Meyer. (I did, too, at one time…. Till I came to my senses!) Praise Him for letting His prodigals come Home!
BTW, question for you, Mike: one year we went to Rhema merely to see the Christmas lights (pretty spectacular), but had first stopped for a root beer float – which meant I needed to use their facilities! At first, they refused to even allow me to go to the bathroom. They finally relented, but I had to “sign in”…. you woulda’ thought I was walking into a SECRETIVE masonic lodge or something…. Because on my return trip back down the hall, they actually SENT A SECURITY GUARD to toss me out of there!!! Good gravy!! What’s up with that??!! WHY BE SO SECRETIVE if it’s a “church”…?? WHAT’S THAT ALL ABOUT ANYWAY??!! Ohhh!!! Wait a minute!!! Because it’s a C U L T maybe??!!!!! And I didn’t know the “secret handshake”.
Lord willing, I’ll aim to come back & write more when I have the time & opportunity.
P.S. Tom, I often think of that funny thing, too — how the “healing” preachers wear glasses!! 😀 Many aren’t aware that Joyce Meyer had a mastectomy some years ago (she would TELL US to “believe” for good health) :unhappy: Also how do charismatics “EXPLAIN” when one of their own dies??? Didn’t have enough faith?? EX: Billy Joe Daugherty at the young age of 57.
If that sounds harsh, well it’s the truth.
HI RJ. Thank you for your comment. You wrote something that happens frequently in family circles. You said:
Most wives and husbands are led astray by their own spouses because they love their partners so much and do not want to hurt them. We’ve been indoctrinated by the lie that when you reproof, rebuke, and exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine (2 Timothy 4:2) you are unloving, pharisaical, and harsh. Well, Jesus said something completely different.
I am not saying this is happening in your household; not at all. However, all of us should bear this in mind.
Tom, you’re absolutely right of course! Another “Eve ploy” called passing the buck! Fortunately at that time, my husband just paid no never mind to my babbling about “Joyce Meyer is the greatest thing since sliced bread!” or my listening to Andrew Wommack or Charles Capps / et al. I’m just thankful, so, so thankful to heaven that I never attended this one church where it was very common every service to push ppl backwards!! “slain in the spirit” …Oh my!!! I’d hate to think if I would’ve received THAT spirit!!
And how hypocritical of me to expect my “friend” to accept reproof – when, I ADMIT, those some 20 years ago, I was in no frame of mind to hear it from my husband either!!!! Tom, yes, people DO see us as harsh & unloving… when it fact, we’re doing it OUT OF LOVE. Ref: Jude 22
I like to think I’ve grown in my Christian walk since then though and have calmed down and am at least trying to be more submissive to my husband. Ladies, please note, this does NOT mean we are to submit to EVERY man!! Not even church leadership has a right nor authority to “lord it over us”!! 1 Peter 5:3
And being submissive to our own husbands also does not mean we must be subservient or anything! It means treating them in a dignified way and with great respect! You know how it is – how easy it is for us to treat others outside the home with respect and show our best sides to them. Yet we can learn from each other & from what the Lord expects, to be kind, caring, and patient.. “LOVING”.. with our own spouses and family members as well.
Remember, the Lord finds it VERY PRECIOUS for us to have quiet and gentle spirits! Ref: 1 Peter 3:4 This does not mean we’re NOT ALLOWED to talk – no, no, no! But just about myself here, the way I was brought up, I find it very easy to grumble often (which was a full-time hobby at my house) – uh, so I do this too often! And no one wants to hear that all the time! So much negativity, not enough peace.
I must remind myself often to find good things to THINK on (Phil 4:8) and as a result, will then speak about. Plus I try to not yack on and on endlessly to him as he’s coming home tired, with so much on his mind from work. Thus the reason we ladies need friends.
I must chuckle at a little secret, up till now known only to me: I am the type who’s particular about which coffee mug I drink from – got a new set – but since my husband doesn’t care nor give any thought to which one he drinks from – I kept pouring his drinks in the OLD beat-up scratched up ones. YIKES!!! I know this is a tiny little thing –and my gracious husband wouldn’t give a whit about it. But one morning I was actually convicted to start serving his drinks in the new, NICE mugs!! So what if he knocked it over & broke it? Could always buy another… Know what ladies? That one teeny-little thing helped me to start treating him better overall!!! So yep, the little things DO count, too!!
Thanks Tom, for taking the time to share this reminder! I really do appreciate it!
Also, I’m at a bit of a crossroads here, and I’d appreciate the counsel of other godly people. My “friend” I’ve mentioned… do I proceed with the friendship? And AGREE TO DISAGREE (as she wants to do) & simply not discuss prophecy and/or FALSE teachers..? [as she says there are so many other things we could talk about) What about Amos 3:3? Sigh! I AM praying about this!! From what little I know of her, I do like her a lot and I do not have a large circle of friends, (VERY FEW in fact!) and no family – so I NEED friends!! Overall though that doesn’t play into it as much as I merely want to please the Lord. Still though, she’d obviously be one I could never share Biblical info/doctrine with. And don’t we hate it when we feel we must have a shield up! Anyone who can offer godly counsel here, I want to thank you in advance.
Hi RJ. Thank you for your comment. I have read it attentively but need some time to get my thoughts together. All I can say now, is that I have lost many friends and yes, it hurts. My wife has also lost a few friends because of me being so forthright and to the point in my approach to contend for the faith once delivered to us by the apostles. I laughed when you wrote about the mugs. It seems to be common among women. Oops! sorry.
Respectfully, does the Holy Spirit say in His Word that we need no man to teach us, and that He will lead us and guide us unto all truth? I am not denying the role of teachers and others, but I ask: but wasn’t this the reason Jesus, the Christ of God, came, lived, and died for us? That we might have fellowship again with the Father? Is there not an intimacy afforded us that we might know Him personally? One of the bedrocks of any relationship is communication. What person do you know that you only write to? Jesus Christ is the Word of God. And I am thankful He is forever making intercession for me. He is recorded as saying His sheep “hear” His voice, and another they will not follow; it doesn’t say “read” my voice. Has the Holy Spirit quit working in manifestations(gifts)? Is God’s Word not the same yesterday, today, and forever? I just want to make sure the workings of God are not denied. I pray your whole spirit, soul, and body prosper and be in health, even as your soul prospers. Spirt, soul, body. Father, Son, Holy Ghost. We are made in His image, and born of His seed. We must know His voice. Israel read the Holy Scriptures. So can we. If it is not mixed with faith, we still deny His Son. Be blessed and may God direct your ways. Much love….
Hi John. Are you saying Andrew Wommack is not a false teacher? You wrote:
Do you hear Jesus Christ’s audible voice speaking to you? When you’ve read something He written in Scripture, do you wait for Him to speak the very same words you’ve read to validate what He has written in his Word?
Hi JOHN. You wrote:
What do you mean by “manifestations?” Are you referring to signs, wonders and miracles? John the Baptist never performed a single miracle (manifestation of the Holy Spirit) and yet Jesus said of him, “For I say unto you, Among those that are born of women there is not a greater prophet than John the Baptist.” (Luke 7:28). You can be sure that God’s workings through John the Baptist was not denied. Even his beheading was not a denial of his workings. Agreed?
Thank you Tom, and Olaf.
Tom, I am not for, or against, Mr. Womack. I am for Jesus Christ and the rightly divided Word of God that is a discerner of the thoughts and the intent of the heart. The “quoted” sayings of Mr. Womack are not provided in the context of the full conversation, but definitely look contrary both to the Spirit, and the letter of the Word. In John’s first letter, he he did say that the anointing, which we have received since the beginning abides “in” us, will teach us.
Olaf, you asked if when reading the Word if I wait until “hear” a voice to validate His written Word. No. I feed on the written Word. There are “ah ha!” moments that I see a deeper meaning than I have seen before; and I believe that is by the enlightening of the Holy Ghost. You asked if I hear the voice of Jesus Christ audibly. I do. I am still a little unclear whether I am hearing Jesus Christ, the Father, or the Holy Ghost. I really haven’t concerned myself with that much. But it HAS TO AGREE WITH THE WRITTEN WORD of God, and not be contrary to His Spirit. But I do hear His voice. Sometimes it is audible, in clear and precise words, like “go this way, or that”. Other times it is a leading, or knowing. I’m not sure what qualifies as “hearing”, but He does speak. Thank you for asking.
Tom, I am referring to the gifts, or manifestation, of the Spirit mentioned in I Cor 12:7. An endowment from God, to overflowing, to be of profit to all. A grace given by the Creator. Yes, John the Baptist was the greatest prophet that had been. And, He was definitely used by God without any recorded “miracles and signs”. Except he leaped in his mother’s womb when he sensed the presence of his cousin. Jesus also said he would be least in the kingdom. But then I consider the “least” will be the “greatest” and the “greatest shall be the least”, etc. As for the issues of tongues; I’ve heard different disparaging references to them as of late. Many arguments peer only at the outpouring of the Holy Spirit on Pentecost, when every man heard the gospel in their own language. When Paul was mentioning the use of gifts in the assembly, he referred to both speaking in the tongues of men, and of angels. But without love, everything including gifts, wisdom, knowledge, study, works, etc., are nothing. Let us build each other up.
Thanks again, guys. Much love, John
I’m a little confused. Do you mean He audibly tells you to “go here or there” in some sense like a GPS?
Tom, Yes, he gives me audible directions. I could go many testimonies, but if you ask questions, it might make the communication go a little faster. He told me who my wife who my wife was, and he told her I was her husband. We knew each other 10 days before we were engaged. I was asked to take a cut in pay, and drive a lot further to my job, and make less. But when God said “do it”, I obeyed. I was only out there tw0 weeks, and met my wife. That was almost 40 years ago.
He told me to come be alone with him one time. I had my thoughts of what that meant. I told Him He would have to confirm it in my wife’s heart, since we had a new born daughter. After a series of events, I obeyed. My idea was to go to the mountains and find a shack. But on the way, He redirected my path to go to NYC. That whole experience was a “turn here”. Get out here at this time. Go North. Be last on the bus. On and on and on… It was a trek I will forever be thankful for. I have heard the words “be his friend” when I had no connection with the person. He speaks almost daily. It depends how attentive I am.
It isn’t always that straight forward, But He is always there to direct my path. John
Paul never insisted that they spoke in both the tongues of men and angels. He was speaking hypothetically that even IF men had the ability to speak in the tongues of angels, it would be worthless without love. Please stop twisting Scripture. It is exceedingly unloving. You can end your comments with “Much Love” as much as you want. It won’t mean a thing when you twist Scripture.
Hi JOHN. Have you read The Shack by William P. Young?
Tom, yes. It is kind of like a gps; but a better representation would be having Him there in person. Go that way, or this. I mentioned the trip I ended up going to NYC. He told me to be at a specific spot at a specific time. The first ride I caught was going all the way to NYC from Colorado Springs. As we approached Indianapolis, He told me to get out and go north. I questioned Him on this. Ha. The people kindly dropped me off on the north side. The first ride I got was with a Capt. in the Indiana State Troopers. He said he was dead set against hitch hikers, but he needed someone to talk to. All the rides and appointments to NYC and while in NYC, were for ministry purposes. All the rides back to Kansas ministered to me. I believe He want each of us to be led by His Spirit. It will never contradict the written logos, or Word. That was one illustration the Lord used in my life to set a course for me. That was in 1983. He has been faithful ever since. For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the Sons of God. Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the (rhema) Word of God. Or spoken word of God. Whatever is not of faith, is sin. The Lord gave me 3 scriptures when I first came to Him, that set my course.
33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
13 because God is always at work in you to make you willing and able to obey his own purpose.
14 For all who are being led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God.
May I ask: Do you and your wife speak in heavenly tongues (of angels); do you have visions, dreams and revelations; have you seen Jesus Christ personally? You quoted Romans 8:14, “For all who are being led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God.” I have never heard Jesus Christ speaking to me in an audible voice. Am I not lead by the Spirit of God and, therefore, not a son of God?
Sorry to take so long to answer your question.
I have only recently read your insightful comment.
In the mid ’80’s, Rhema in Tulsa (the heretical capital of the universe) was pretty strict (ie. like nazis) towards students. If you weren’t seated by the bell, you had to get an absence form. Three absences and you automatically failed the class. People perceived to disobey the dress code were sent home. I thought things had loosened up a while ago. Had not heard of SS men doing bathroom duty. How weird.
I think Bethel in Redding with their school of witchcraft is the Rhema of the 21st century. Hagin and co are seen as passè or “the old guard”. Hagin often spoke of a (false) prophecy of his regarding an army of faith soldiers conquering the world which I believe referred to the grads of Rhema . His version of Joel’s Army which I guess he stole from Branham, who he admired despite claiming to have foretold his “Elijah error and death”. He was a pallbearer at his funeral. He also shared platforms with Paul Csin, so my theory is that the birth and growth of the NAR is due to a great degree to the Rhema phenomenon of the last quarter of the 20th century. It’s all connected. I got out after learning about the NAR and then discovering Rhema people were joined to them. I then examined Hagin’s visions of “Jesus” and realized I had been bewitched by another Joseph Smith, Ellen G. White etc. Challenging him to WOF space cadets is like challenging the Pope to a Catholic.
Copeland and others are now fully on the NAR band wagon. He gets my vote for the most demonised minister on the planet, which is saying a lot. His connection to Wommsck (who has a fable about raising his adult son from the dead) is telling.
I read yesterday on the Reformation Charlotte website that an African WOF pastor is out of it but is now a Calvinist minister who believes he at last has the truth. How sad that so many trade one false gospel for another. Calvinism may be the antithesis of charismania from one angle, but its doctrinrs are just as elitist and Gnostic. I thank the Lord for sparing me going down that pathway, as Deborah nearly did too.
Tom, I would like to apologize for ignorantly posting to your site. I had not explored your site to know your beliefs. I was searching something else out and came across it. I then saw Mr. Womack’s name and was curious what the article said. Again, my apologies and hope you hold no ill will towards my postings. I pray that God will bless, and keep you, and draw you ever closer to Himself. Much love, John
Tom, I saw you had written a couple more things I had not responded to. No. I have not read the shack. You inferred I was twisting scripture. The statement that was combined with that was” Paul never insisted…they speak in tongues”. I agree. He never did; and I never said He did. I noticed in your writings on another page you brought up Rev 22, when it says not to add to this book. It also says don’t take away. I apologize again for apparently offending you by saying much love. I’m sorry but out of the abundance of my heart, the mouth speaks. I am certainly not going to end in “Much contention”. Paul said they had no such custom among them. But they did have love. These are a couple of versus that support my comments about my personal understanding, and experience with the issue of tongues.
1 Cor 14:18
18 I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all:
19 Yet IN the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue.
1 Cor 14:14-15
14 For IF I pray in an unknown tongue, MY SPIRIT PRAYETH, but MY UNDERSTANDING IS UNFRUITFUL.
15 What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, AND I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, AND I will sing with the understanding also.
20 But ye, beloved, BUILDING UP YOURSELVES UP yourselves on your most holy faith, PRAYING IN THE HOLY GHOST,
21 KEEP YOURSELVES IN THE LOVE OF GOD, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
If you feel you must contend for something, and not share in the fellowship and love of Christ, and His Word, I will let you be. I’ll die, that you may live. I never meant to promote any righteousness of myself, because I don’t have any. You are the righteous reverend here. Mu..I can’t say much love, here. If it’s ok with you, I just ask God to bless you with whatever you need, according to His riches in glory. Peace
Love and Truth go together. You cannot pretend to love someone when you teach things contrary to the Word of God, let alone say that you love God. Being deceived and deceiving others is not love. When Paul said, “I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all,” he did not mean that he spoke in various unknown or heavenly tongues. If he had, not even the unbelievers who had no part in the assembly of believers would be able tot understand his heavenly tongues. I see you emphasized “IN” the church in verse 19. The fact is that Paul was greatly concerned about the Corinthians infatuation with speaking in tongues IN the assembly. For Paul it was another proof of their spiritual immaturity and worldliness or carnality (cf 3:1-3) which he sincerely hoped would change when they heard the truth about the gift of tongues. His main concern was to show them that prophecy (preaching the Word of God in the power of the Spirit, NOT foretelling the future) was much more important for the assembled church. Different Tongues could not edify the church when the other members could not understand those who spoke in various known tongues (not tongues of angels or heavenly tongues). What this means is that Paul who could speak, for argument’s sake, German, French, Italian, Dutch, Afrikaans, Zulu, Tswana, Swahili, Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese, English, Russian, etc. would not speak any of these languages in church because it could not edify any church assembly who could not understand these languages. He would only speak these languages when he spoke to an assembly of Germans, French, Italians, Dutch people etc. And this is precisely the reason why Paul wrote, “Tongues, then, are a sign, not for believers but for unbelievers; prophecy, however, is not for unbelievers but for believers” (1 Corinthians 14:12). To emphasize the possible dangers of speaking in tongues without any edifying purposes, he reminded the Corinthians what happened in Isaiah 28:11-12. Because of Israel’s rebellion and disobedience to God’s message proclaimed to them by the prophets, Isaiah predicted that another message would come. This one would be delivered in a foreign language which they did not understand. The foreign tongue symbolized God’s rejection of Israel (Deut. 28:49; Isaiah 33:19).
Concerning the alleged speaking in a heavenly tongue or of angels, the following. Anyone who claims to speak in the tongue or tongues of angels is disobeying God. When Paul was raptured into the third heaven, he said, “It is necessary to boast, though nothing is gained by it; but I will go on to visions and revelations of the Lord. I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago—whether in the body I do not know, or out of the body I do not know, [only] God knows—such a man was caught up to the third heaven. And I know that such a man—whether in the body or out of the body I do not know, [only] God knows—was caught up into Paradise and heard inexpressible words which man is not permitted to speak [words too sacred to tell].” (2 Corinthians 12:1-4). And yet, unlike Paul who was too humble to admit that he was that man, false teachers boast that they speak in heavenly or angelic tongues without any compunction or shame. Note carefully, Paul said he heard “inexpressible words” (NOT tongues or languages. There is only ONE holy language in heaven. Had there been more, there also would have been sin because languages, as you know, was a sign of man’s sinfulness) “which man is NOT PERMITTED to speak” because of its extreme hallowedness. JOHN, when you and your wife speak in angelic tongues, as you said, how do you know you are not blaspheming God?
By the way, I just LOVE your loving sarcasm when you said, “You are the righteous reverend here.” Stop being facetious. It is unloving.
You have no need to apologize to me or this site. What you and your wife must do is to apologize to Jesus for your disobedience when you allegedly speak in angelic or heavenly tongues while Paul explicitly said it is forbidden.
I’ve listened to Wommack myself, and this is a distortion to make him look a certain way. This is absolutely ridiculous.
Nevan Kelly. So you have absolutely no problem with Andrew Wommack’s lack of humility when he says:
I prefer to follow Jesus Christ’s humility who said “let Thy will be donee.” If Wommack is right then Paul would never have said the following.
I agree with Nevan Kelly: This seems to distort what Andrew Wommack is saying.
Andrew Wommack was the first American pastor I heard where I got through an entire talk without disagreeing once. Personally, I take all pastors with a pinch of salt (after all, nobody’s perfect), but I found Andrew Wommack far closer to the truth than many, many others.
The first quote:
I believe humans put limits on God. If God says, “Go pray for x” and I don’t go pray, I’ve just limited God. I am forgiven, but I still limited God. There are clearly many instances where we are told to “heal the sick”, so I do not believe Andrew Wommack to be wrong there, as you make him out to be.
The third quote:
I think far too many people do moan and whinge to God. I believe too many people expect God to be like a “genie in a bottle” doing things just because we ask him to: “Oh, God, please sort my work life out” but the person praying does not do a single thing to help themselves. I think it’s a great falsehood to pray and not act. As in James 2, faith without deeds is dead.
The reason why I think you take him out of context is that underlying all of the things he says is that a Christian will have the Holy Spirit within them. It’s not that we can do anything apart from God, we can do these precisely because we have God’s Spirit in us. I never once, through the many sermons of his that I’ve listened to, got the impression that he expects people to do things without God. God’s power is in us, and therefore we can do all things through Christ who gives us the strength we need (Phil 4:13).
The second quote:
When I first heard the story I didn’t know what to think. On the one hand, it could be seen to be a bit aggressive. But then, Jesus also did such things. And also, Andrew Wommack is human after all, and he does admit that sometimes his passions to follow in Jesus footsteps can lead to doing things that in hindsight may not have been the best thing to do at the time.
Anyway, with all of this, I think it’s a bit off (hypocritical?) to claim “Wolf – Run!!”
We are all human, and there is an implication here that this site has biblical teaching completely correct… as I said above, I take all things with a pinch of salt, because of the human element. My own theology has changed over time as I’ve learned more and had more life experience. I think it’s rather dishonest to have such a short article about him, writing him off because you’ve picked 3 quotes (two of which I would say are out of context) that you disagree with. He has hundreds of teachings on his website and on YouTube. Can you honestly say that no good things can come of his teachings? That is where I feel you are most misinformed.
Hi Mick. You wrote:
You are not supposed to evaluate spiritual things in the light of the fact that we are merely humans, or taking all things with a pinch of salt, or life’s experiences. This is a sure recipe for disaster. We are commanded to test all things against the Word of God. Andrew Wommack is a Word of Faith protagonist who believes that our words have the power to create things. In other words, they are gods with a small “g.” I have always wondered why these so-called gods claim to speak things into existence, while they have to this very day failed dismally to speak the Corona-19 virus OUT of existence.
I think you misunderstand me:
I’m not saying we should “evaluate spiritual things in light of the fact that we are merely humans”, I’m saying we should evaluate a preacher’s teching in light of the fact that he (or she) is a human and not infallible.
It also depends on what you mean by “spiritual things” because I don’t want this to descend into a “moving the goalposts” scenario. All things spiritual should be evaluated according to the Bible, I agree, but people will put the emphasis of their theology in different places (e.g. the “pre-millennial”, “post-millennial” and “a-millennial” camps – that’s not a discussion I want here, that’s an example of where Christians take different verses as the basis of their theology), and we must discern whether it is justifiable to have the emphasis in a different place to what we have become accustomed to.
My issue is that you are writing off a person’s entire ministry based on one (potentially) dodgy anecdote he told, and two quotes that I believe you have taken out of context. Even if you strongly feel they are not taken out of context, is this sufficient evidence to write off everything he says?
In no way does Andrew Wommack believe that humans are “gods”. From his teachings, it seems clear that he believes that Christians, when filled with the Holy Spirit, should be able to do the things Jesus said we should (John 14:12, which includes “greater things”).
If you want to bring coronavirus into it… well, I’ve not had it, and neither has my wife, either of our families, nor anyone that we know. Quite literally, I have not had the opportunity to pray with someone who has it. However, I did get fed up with wearing glasses and contact lenses a few years ago, so I began praying for my eyesight. The optician told me firmly that “eyes do not get better, they only get worse” and then had to rather sheepishly tell me at the end of the eye test that my eyes had actually improved. I no longer wear glasses or contact lenses. All glory to God for that. Does that make me one of your “gods” with a small “g”?
You are the one who misunderstands. You wrote:
Paul said a little leaven leavens the whole lump. (Galatians 5:9). I can assure you that someone who teaches that you can speak in things into existence (like God, which allegedly turns them into little gods) that his ENTIRE MINISTRY is crooked, dangerous, and satanic. A mixture or lies and truths equals lies. That’s the way Satan works.
I did not say or suggest that you should not pray for someone with the Covid-19 virus. I said that Wommack and his Word of Faith brethren who claim to speak things into existence, should speak the Covid-19 virus OUT of existence. Don’t you think he 3would be doing the world a big favour?
By the way, it is a well-known fact that our eyes consist of some of the quickest self-healing tissue in our entire bodies.
You give the impression that you are incredibly confident that absolutely nothing on this website is incorrect, since that little bit of leaven would pollute every other article… that’s a pretty bold statement to make (perhaps even boastful?).
I’m not an optician, but the one I went to was very surprised at my eyes getting better. Something to do with the shape of them that meant I would always be short-sighted. Do you think there was no supernatural healing in that process?
Mick. Paul of Tarsus said “a little leaven leavens the whole lump” and not I. He also wrote:
Of course there are a lot of incorrect teachings on trhe web. Don’t you know what Paul of Tarsdus said?
You seem to tolerate incorrect teachings.
I do not tolerate incorrect teachings, I weigh all things with the Bible. (It’s incredibly hard to have the entire Bible memorised in order to verify something so fast.) I have yet to find any preacher who never makes a mistake, who never says anything false. But I don’t write them off completely because of one or two statements they make: I ignore the things I discern to be false, and hold fast to the sound doctrine.
I am very well aware of Paul’s teaching that you quote, including that it is an extension of Jesus’ teaching in Matthew 16:12. I am also aware that Jesus even described the Kingdom of heaven as like yeast (Matt 13:33). I am also aware of John’s in 1 John 4:
I am trying to discern whether your teaching on this site is accurate. If I find one mistake, should I discard the entire site? Is misquoting a person, or taking them out of context, worthy of being called a “false teacher”, etc.?
As I said earlier, Andrew Wommack is a Word of Faith protagonist who believes your words have creative power – LIKE GOD. Is this part of the doctrine of Christ? – yes or no.
You are welcome to follow Andrew Wommack’s teaching but please don’t expose your wife and kids to his poison. You will have to give an account to God.
The entire Word of Faith RELIGION is occult. Not just little erroneous doctrines here or there. You can not speak things into existence, like God – this OCCULT religion is based on the occult teachings of Law of Attraction. Word of Faith’s other names are Metaphysical teaching aka Christian Science or New Thought, or Latter Rain Movement.
Andrew Wommack does not teach that God has no authority, he teaches that God is sovereign but not in the way that he controls everything we do. Which he doesn’t, when God created us he gave us free will. And he also gave us dominion over the Earth as stated in Genesis 1:28.
And in response to your comments about what he says about healing is true. Mark 16:17-18 states “And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; they shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.”
Of course Jesus Christ heals, if we pray to Him directly and if it is God’s Will for us to be healed we will be healed.
Do you believe? Are you truly saved? You quoted Mark 16:17-18 – did you notice it says “they shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them;”
Have you tried this lately? Please I ask that you pick up a deadly snake (please don’t remove its teeth or milk the teeth of its poison as some snake handling cultic ‘Christians’ do). If you don’t like snakes, you can always try drinking some cyanide, and if that doesn’t float your boat, you can always lick a poisonous dart frog. :giggle:
Will you live? If you believe this verse as it says (without reading it in context of scripture) then you will live right?
Only the Apostles (chosen by Jesus Christ, and named by name in the bible) and those who had hands laid on by Christ’s chosen Apostles were given this power to heal, to cast out demons, to speak with new (earthly) languages to spread the word of God to other countries, to lay hands on the sick and they would be healed, and here’s the biggie….they could not die – they had a ministry to go out and preach the gospel to the nations and God made sure they survived by the mighty power of the Holy Spirit. When the Apostles mission ended, after they had completed the writing of the bible, the Apostolic gifts passed away. Please read: https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2019/08/13/apostles-and-super-apostles/
Now we go directly to Jesus Christ Himself for all our needs. We do not need a false apostle or prophet to tell us they can heal us.
There are no more apostles or prophets today. The bible is clear that God speaks to us through His Son who is the Word of God,
Hebrews 1:1-2 1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
Do you see what happens when you misinterpret scripture like you have? I recommend you stop listening to Andrew Wommack and his false teachings and start listening STUDYING the bible yourself with the guidance of the Holy Spirit.
Hi Mary. Have you cast out devils yet, do you speak in new tongues, have you taken up serpents, and have you drank deadly poison, yet, without being hurt?
I know this is older, (2019) but I would LOVE to be put in touch with RJ! We have SO much in common. I have no friends, and 8 adult children of whom only 5 still speak to me, I am “Jesus woman”. They walked away from Christ, and He is indeed as always 100% right. I have SO many family members who won’t speak to me anymore..again, as I am “Jesus woman”. I do believe my husband is lost. He hardly speaks to me OR acts like I am even here. But I KNOW that I have even better, as I have sweet Jesus and God led me to you, finally someone who knows the TRUTH of God’s word and studies as I do as I want to know more and more.Many years later, still hungry for more of Him. I check ALL against Scripture.. Seriously though,, I’d so very much LOVE to have a friend like RJ! (If she still writes in, feel free to ask her if she wants to email me?) That said. I’ve no idea HOW you guys get through comments here and still be sane. Wommack IS a wolf! That one “checks all against Scripture” but missed it by miles, and NO ONE needs to “memorize the Bible”. Remembering important verses comes with regular reading, as I am sure you know. SO many believing falsely, it’s heartbreaking! We are warned of this all coming in these last days, again, as you know, however. WHAT IS it that Wommack has to so easily “sucker in” SO many people? I listened to him once for about 5 minutes and I knew! WOLF! I praise God for you, as no matter how outlandish, you come back with truth backed up by Scripture. As far as tongues, one only need carefully read Acts 2 – even go to say, Bible Hub and read a couple Commentaries and back to Scripture again to see that ‘Tongues” are indeed languages. One way I study. Wow guys, that was tough reading the comments – then I saw Mark Taylor mentioned – so many believe him too! andI’m just stunned at all the bizarreness you just KEPT getting back, so I knew that I had to commend and send blessings to you both. As the Bible says, It’ll only get worse, so you’ll both definitely be extra in my prayers. Love in Christ to you both!
PS – Having been disabled 20+ years and my eyes are BAD, so hey, do put me in touch with Andy Wommack. I need a miracle. Let’s see what he’s made of! (OR I can “just” continue to believe that God’s grace IS sufficient for me!) I do still pray for healing, as.Jesus said to KEEP knocking!
So you believe that God isn’t the same today as yesterday? You are mistaken, you should ask God in the name of Jesus to fill you with the Holy Spirit. John 2:17-21
to “Jesus is Lord”
So, if God is the same yesterday, today, and forevermore, then false teachers like Andrew Wommack are also unchangeable and immovable? God’s immutability is not the prime criteria to discern false teaching.
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Vague at best in your interpretation of A. Wommacks position..
I have been under the Calvananist teachings in an E free church for many years..while I respect the teaching ( even though I think its wrong on many points now after baptism of the Holy Spirit” they couldn’t convince me tongues stopped at the end of the first church. (Not logically anyway) I have been a believer since may 15 1975. I’ve been involved with many church groups and teachings..not until I began praying in the Spirit did I understand the Word of Faith ” As you call it” movement.
I now understand the 10 virgins message very clear, and the Remnant that God is calling in this hour. Its also a church separation. Moving and understanding the gifts of the Spirit will help define the Word of Faith to you..
Read Lester Summerall’s book ” The gifts and Ministry of the Holy Spirit”.
I’m not here to argue I just want unity in the body and be able to see you in heaven..
I ask the Spirit of Wisdom and Revaluation to bestow His gift upon you, in Jesus Name.
Jim 32 wrote, “not until I began praying in the Spirit did I understand the Word of Faith ” As you call it” movement.”
First of all, we never coined the phrase “Word of Faith.” It is an internationally used one that has been around for many years. Secondly, the fact that your experience (speaking in tongues) verifies the Word of Faith as valid and true, is not biblical. Why? Well, Jesus, Himself said, “An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas.” [His Resurrection from the dead] (Matthew 12:39). Therefore, He could never have given you a gift of tongues, and neither did the Holy Spirit because He will NEVER contradict Jesus Christ. I suggest that you stop reading books like “The Ministry of the Holy Spirit” and start reading the Bible. I also would like to see you in heaven but you won’t be there if you base your salvation on a sign like the speaking in tongues.
Well did Jesus tell the disciples to heal the sick as part of the great commission of not? Did He tell the disciples to raise the dead or not? Did He tell the disciples if you believed in your heart and spoke to the mountain it would love it not? … If He did then Andrew Wommack is spot on … He’s not bound by unbelief, fear of failure or of what others think about him. Did God give authority to man on earth or not? Did Jesus tell the disciples if they forgave sin it was forgiven and if not then it was retained? Did Jesus give us authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to cast out demons? Did Jesus tell the disciples that all authority was given Him and He was giving the disciples that authority? Did Jesus say He was the express image of God? If these facts are true recorded in the bible then Andrew Wommack is spot on. I truly don’t understand why people get bent out of shape over authority … God gave the earth to man, He gave them dominion… They have that to satan …. Jesus won it back when He became the first person to be born from the dead. He died as our sin, He took our place, He became sin for us so we could be the righteousness of God through Christ. All this is documented in the bible and that Word is alive and active … I think people don’t understand the new covenant of the fact that man, made in the image and likeness of God, by God does indeed have authority on earth. So is Andrew Wommack a false teachers cos he grasps authority … ??? God doesn’t sit in heaven making people sick, cos Jesus came doing good, healing all who were oppressed by the devil … So all sickness and disease originates from darkness. … God doesn’t pick some to be born into poverty, some into sickness, some into the curse … It’s man’s authority by having sex and producing a human child … God is only good … When Moses wanted to see God what did God show him? His goodness? Yes! His Goodness! Does God cause sin?? No or yes? If He causes sin then is He good or evil? I think understanding truth needs the Holy Spirit, and we need to rightly divide the Word of God.
Vanessa, have you raised any corpse to life?; have you moved mountains?; have you healed sick people?
Hi brothers and sisters in Christ.
By no means is every mystery of the incarnation known to us, but Wommack is purposefully controversial. He enjoys the privileged position that all congregationalist ministers do of having no higher human authority to answer to. No synod, no convention, no presbyterian system, certainly no bishop. But he has to answer to the body of Christ. We have a built in immune system.
The scripture says to provide for honest things in the sight of all.
The facts as I know them:
1. AWMI, and Charis Bible college are his ministries and he is able to higher and fire, control doctrine, select teachers and teaching and so on
2. This ministry is one of the richest. Its impossible to get figures, but recently Wommack said on YouTube at Duane Sheriff’s church that over a billion dollars have passed through his ministry over the years, and that he told Jesse Duplantis he was looking for 600 million in order to expand the college. He remarked that 50 million was nothing to God or words to that effect.
3. His adult sons are a well guarded secret. The elder is Joshua, around 48, a tattoo artist in Colorado Springs. He is unashamedly satanic in his imagery, though such things are admittedly normal in the tattoo world.
The younger is Jonathan Peter, about 45, also an artist, currently living in Morocco according to Saatchi Art. He was said to have been raised from the dead. Andrew is online as late as 2020 repeating the story of his son’s miracle recovery. But online statements by the ex wife Desiree Cannon Wommack allege that it was an overdose from which Jonathan was revived at the hospital. She alleged further that while married she was severely abused by her husband and silenced by her mother in law, Jamie, Andrew’s wife.
4. All doctrinal issues aside these allegations are serious enough to demand an answer. Christians should avoid this ministry. Any insiders who know the truth should come forward.
According to your quote Andrew Wommack sounds like the old serpent who wants to take over the throne of God. Jesus warns us during his ministries on earth to beware of false guide in this last days for the old serpent will do all his power to deceive people for he knew his days are being counted on earth and he will be bound for 1000 years when Christ comes again. Search the scriptures, be vigilant, do not ceases to ask God of all your uncertainty for God is the source of all truth. Andrew Wommack is one of the false guide that the scriptures mentioned. I myself do not ignore even simple statement when he disregard the power of God and claimed it as his own power. I do not believe Andrew Wommack has the power and authority from God because there’s no whole truth that comes out from his mouth.
I happened on Discerning the Word while doing a bit of research. I was astounded at the level of vitriol coming from the admins toward others without the same views. Even those who seemed to be agreeing, somehow still said things that apparently offended. The admins are almost gleefully antagonistic. I don’t know Andrew Wommack from Adam. (I suspect that this comment will also offend. Fortunately, I won’t lose sleep.) I was searching for some information, because a friend who is suffering from serious illness, told me that she was referred to some of Andrew Wommack’s teachings. I can guarantee that I won’t look here for any information.
I can understand why you do not know Wommack from Adam. Andrew Wommack, a word-faith teacher who majors on the promise of healing, teaches that Satan was originally on this earth in the Garden of Eden as Lucifer (The Lightbearer). He supposedly was God’s favorite angel sent to earth to be a blessing to Adam and Eve. He was an angelic being sent to be their protector, to minister to them, and serve them. He was there on a divine mission, still in his perfect state. Now think of what he’s saying: that Satan was sent by God as an unfallen angel into the Garden to bless and protect Adam and Eve. Is that what is written? No, he fell in heaven before he even tempted Eve on earth. (The Berean Call). If Wommack can tell this lie, why would you and your friend believe him in all other matters of grave importance, especially healing?
Now, let me tell you about three young missionaries who were told by a Pentecostal (NAR) forerunner not to take medicine because they were walking in divine health, and eventually died of their malady, while they could have been healed if they took their medicine.
A Canadian pastor, A. B. Simpson, was the founder of the Christian and Missionary Alliance, He was regularly invited to speak as a keynote speaker at the 1885 Bethshan Conference on Holiness and Healing in London. This conference is regarded by many as a turning point in the origins of the modern Pentecostal movement. A. B. Simpson taught that saints who use doctors’ prescribed medicine were apostatizing their faith in God. Three young missionaries to Sudan who were influenced by his abominable teaching died in 1890 when they refused to take medicine. If God sent them to Sudan to preach the Gospel of salvation to the lost, it was Satan through A. B. Simpson who prevented perhaps hundreds of souls from getting saved, because Satan is a murderer (John 8:44), not God. This grossly hellish sham is perpetuated to this very day in many Pentecostal and Charismatic churches where many have lost their lives because of this lie. Pentecostal preachers have a history of many failed healings.
Are you going to be an accessory to your seriously ill friend’s subsequent Wommack-woes?