Immortal Life … Can it be?
Somewhere between the mainstream church and people out there looking for a God who really exist , the truth is hanging in the air. Day after day people struggle for life. Yes, not only to make a living. What is the use of making a living when we live such short life that is going to end anyway soon. What is the reason for living if we have to die and go to heaven some day. Why don’t we just die and go to heaven?
The answer to that is in the truth. The truth that is written in the Bible that had been overlooked, misquoted and miss interpreted for many years.
People calling themselves “Christians” sometimes do not even know what the word “Christ” means. It means the anointing and the Spirit of God which come unto Jesus when He was baptized in the Jordan. That same Spirit that was given back to the Father, was poured out on earth on the day of Pentecost.
God’s intention was never for Adam to die. His intention was never for us to die! The whole story in the Bible is about LIFE! Not about dying to go to heaven.
Immortality according to the Bible and according to most dictionaries means to live without dying.
I have realized with a shock that children commit suicide because of the teachings and preaching of most preachers in the main stream church. Most preachers preach that it is bad to live on earth and that it will be much better in heaven “ONE DAY”. What nonsense! You are killing our children, lying to them. The Bible does not say that! I challenge any preacher to show me the scripture saying that the only way to go to heaven is to die!
The whole Word of God is about Life! Right from the beginning and basically in every book of the Bible we can see the truth.
Most people will ask , but why are people still dying? Born again Christians who are supposed to have the Spirit of Christ in them. The Spirit that raised Christ from the dead that is supposed to quicken our mortal bodies.
You can only ask that question if the truth has never been preached to you. Surely you can also ask that question if you are not born again. The Bible says that you cannot hear the revelation if someone is not preaching it.
For many years the only “truth” for people was the catholic religion. Luther had to stand up and preach the revelation that you don’t have to pay for your sins. It was in the Bible all the time. But still, someone had to preach the truth. The same happens with new revelation. For many years no one spoke in tongues. It was in the Bible all the time, but someone had to stand up and preach it.
No difference with the word of immortality which is probably the greatest revelation you will ever hear.
The Bible can very easily be misinterpreted because of incorrect translations or translators, trying to push their own doctrines. A very good tip for Bible scholars will be to ensure that the scripture they read is declared by scripture and not something happening in the world or some preacher’s own interpretation. Always test the scriptures by reading the context of the whole chapter. Sometimes it will help to read different translations.
1Co 2:9 (KJV) But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him. 1Co 2:10 (KJV) But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
Welcome to this awesome Word of God. Today you have come here, to see one of the greatest revealed mysteries and secrets of God.
The Bible says in Deut 29:29 that “the secret things belong unto the Lord our God, but the things which are revealed belong to us and to our children for ever………..”
The Bible is very clear! You are supposed to be immortal. It says, that it is for those who believe and for those who seek it! Stick with me through this amazing teaching and you will be filled with joy and peace forever.
What is the meaning of the word Immortality?
Is God’s plan for us to die and then go to heaven?
If so, why don’t we just die and go?
What does the Bible say about it?
The word “Immortality” in the Websters’s Dictionary is described as ” EXEMPTION FROM DEATH” or ” UNENDING EXISTENCE” It does not say die and then live or life after death.
Christians will very easily and often quote John 10:10
Joh 10:10 The thief does not come except to steal and to kill and to destroy. I have come so that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
I don’t think they realize what they are quoting
See the following scriptures:
Rom 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
1Co 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
1Co 15:54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
2Co 4:11 For we which live are always delivered unto death for Jesus’ sake, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our mortal flesh.
It does not say that it will be made manifest AFTER we have died ! It says in the mortal flesh. In other words the flesh which is liable to death. Not the flesh that is dead already.
Carefully look at the following scriptures. Note that Paul is talking about 2 groups of people. He says “death works in us, but life in you” two groups.
2Co 4:10 to 14: always bearing about the dying of the Lord Jesus in the body, so that the life of Jesus also might be revealed in our body. For we who live are always being delivered to death for Jesus’ sake, so that the life of Jesus might also be revealed in our body.So then death works in us, but life in you. For we, having the same spirit of faith (according as it is written, “I believed, and therefore I have spoken”); we also believed and therefore speak, knowing that He who raised up the Lord Jesus shall also raise us up by Jesus, and shall present us with you.
We know that people are dying and therefore most people who don’t get this revelation will say ” but why are people still dying today?”
Joh 6:47 Truly, truly, I say to you, He who believes on Me has everlasting life.
He did not say , he who believes in ME will die and go to heaven.
Read the whole of John 6 and see how many times HE says: If you eat of My flesh and drink of My blood , you will NEVER DIE!
Jesus says “I am the Bread of life.” & Your fathers ate the manna in the wilderness, and died. This is the Bread which comes down from Heaven, so that a man may eat of it and not die.
Doesnt the Bible say that the last enemy to be subdued and abolished is death?
Can I say this: When you die, you have been conquered by death! You have not subdued death or conquered death. Death is only conquered when you live and don’t die.
Right from the beginning, in Genesis, God’s plan for us was to live and not die. The question in the garden was not sin. It was all about LIFE and DEATH.
Gen 3:3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the middle of the garden, God has said, You shall not eat of it, neither shall you touch it, lest you die.
Gen 3:22 And Jehovah God said, Behold, the man has become as one of Us, to know good and evil. And now, lest he put forth his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever,
Gen 3:23 therefore Jehovah God sent him out from the garden of Eden to till the ground from which he had been taken.
Gen 3:24 And He drove out the man. And He placed cherubs at the east of the garden of Eden, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to guard the way to the tree of life.
Psa 118:17 I shall not die but live, and shall declare the works and recount the illustrious acts of the Lord.
Psa 118:24 This is the day which the Lord has brought about; we will rejoice and be glad in it.
Read the whole of Ps 118 and try to see the prophetic Word that the Psalmist is bringing.
Act 13:35 For this reason He says also in another psalm, You will not allow Your Holy One to see corruption [to undergo putrefaction and dissolution of the grave]. [Ps. 16:10.]
Act 13:36 For David, after he had served God’s will and purpose and counsel in his own generation, fell asleep [in death] and was buried among his forefathers, and he did see corruption and undergo putrefaction and dissolution [of the grave].
Act 13:37 But He Whom God raised up [to life] saw no corruption [did not experience putrefaction and dissolution of the grave].
Act 13:41 Look, you scoffers and scorners, and marvel and perish and vanish away; for I am doing a deed in your days, a deed which you will never have confidence in or believe, [even] if someone [clearly describing it in detail] declares it to you. [Hab. 1:5.]
Why will Paul refer to Habakkuk? What is the context?
Let us go to Habakkuk and see.
Hab 1:5 Look around [you, Habakkuk, replied the Lord] among the nations and see! And be astonished! Astounded! For I am putting into effect a work in your days [such] that you would not believe it if it were told you. [Acts 13:40, 41.]
Looking at this, we still battle to see any context.
Hab 2:2 And Jehovah answered me and said, Write the vision, and make it plain on the tablets, that he who reads it may run.
Hab 2:3 For the vision is still for an appointed time, but it speaks to the end, and it does not lie. Though it lingers, wait for it; because it will surely come. It will not tarry.
Hab 1:12 Are You not from everlasting, O Jehovah my God, my Holy One? We shall not die.
What is it saying?
The Lord says to Habakkuk , Write the vision down, for there is an appointed time, when it will manifest. Then no one will believe this. What vision? ” WE WILL NEVER DIE”
The word does say that we shall not all die before He returns!
Psa 102:18 Let this be recorded for the generation yet unborn, that a people yet to be created shall praise the Lord.
Psa 102:20 To hear the sighing and groaning of the prisoner, to loose those who are appointed to death,
These guys new that it was not for there time, but for a generation yet unborn.
1 Pe 1:23 You have been regenerated (born again), not from a mortal origin (seed, sperm), but from one that is immortal by the ever living and lasting Word of God.
1Pe 1:24 For all flesh (mankind) is like grass, and all its glory (honor) like [the] flower of grass. The grass withers and the flower drops off,
1Pe 1:25 But the Word of the Lord (divine instruction, the Gospel) endures forever. And this Word is the good news which was preached to you. [Isa. 40:6-9.]
Yes, all flesh is like grass, BUT when you become BORN AGAIN , from the IMMORTAL SEED of GOD, He will renew your strength and your mortal body will be quickened.
Remember that this is only for those who believe!
If it is still difficult to take it, try the next scripture:
Rom 2:7 To those who by patient persistence in well-doing [springing from piety] seek [unseen but sure] glory and honor and [the eternal blessedness of] immortality, He will give eternal life.
It is in all the translations
To those who seek Glory and Honor AND IMMORTALITY, He will give eternal life.
Right through the Bible we see that GOD wants us to live.
Deu 30:19 I call heaven and earth to witness this day against you that I have set before you life and death, the blessings and the curses; therefore choose life, that you and your descendants may live.
There was a time when people had an appointment with death, but that appointment with death is cancelled (Ps 102)
This is only a glimpse of what the Word really says.
Kobus Van Rensburg obviously thru Christ performed many healing miracles. He gave praise to Jesus for all the healing that took place. He believes in immortality but did not attained it. But does this make immortality fake?
Elijah did not die. Elisha obtained double anointing of what Elijah had but he died from sickness (2Kings 13:14). Does this make Elisha a fake prophet and all the healing miracles that he performed not real? Does Elisha undo Elijah’s legacy that he did not die and was taken up to heaven? Does Elisha make Elijah and Enoch not experiencing death a lie?
Dear brothers and sisters, I do not know Kobus Van Rensburg or attended his sermons. But after reviewing what you all posted about him and did some research on what he shared in his church, I feel majority of you all grossly unfair to Kobus Van Rensburg and even more so on Jesus.
Should Jesus be blamed for Elisha’s dead by sickness. How can this godly prophet who has double anointing of Elisha died from sickness. Would not, going by your own measurement on Kobus Van Rensburg make Elisha a fake prophet. Prehaps if you put some effort to study Elisha case, you can unlock why Kobus Van Rensburg died. Seek the Holy Spirit to reveal to you the truth and set us all free. But by no means healing should be stop because Elisha died. Likewise, immortality in this world should be pursued as the last enemy has already been conquered by Jesus in this world.
I praise Jesus for keeping Kobus Van Rensburg alive to share his immortality sermons. I praise Jesus for keeping His teaching on immortality alive even if Kobus Van Rensburg is not here with us in this world. Just as Jesus kept Apostle John until today to prophesy again to many peoples, nations, tongues and kings. (Rev 10:11)
My prayers to his family and his church.
God blessed you all and keep you save.
michael soh wrote:
Performing miracles in the Name of Jesus means absolutely nothing when you preach another gospel, and follow another Jesus and another spirit.
you said “Kobus Van Rensburg obviously thru Christ performed many healing miracles.”
Obviously? Really? Satan can heal as well.
you said “He gave praise to Jesus for all the healing that took place.”
I can say without a shadow of a doubt that NO healings took place.
you said “He believes in immortality but did not attained it. But does this make immortality fake?”
Do you believe you can be immortal on this earth and never a spiritual death? REALLY? Delusions of grandeur is what they call it.
You say at the end of your comment “God blessed you all and keep you save.”
What god are you referring to? the god of this world that promises immortality on earth?
I believe he is now resting with his Master in heaven and you’re here saying what he said right or wrong. Doesn’t make sense to me. If you never accepted his teaching others did and are still following. He was a man of God who taught some mystics about God that was deeper than our religious knowledge. The scriptures itself is got 49 layers deep. I thinks He got deeper than many and understanding him we misunderstood his teaching. Search the scriptures to find deeper truth about God and eternity.
You said “and you’re here saying what he said right or wrong. Doesn’t make sense to me.”
It makes sense to God and born again Christians. The Apostle Jude said:
3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. 4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
And the Apostle John said:
1 John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
You said “He was a man of God who taught some mystics about God that was deeper than our religious knowledge.”
Are you listening to yourself? He taught mystics! That means he was a mystic aka occultist himself. Did he preach to these mystics to get them saved? No, he just taught them ‘a deeper’ meaning or deeper knowledge (Gnosis) to the bible that they were already mis-interpreting for their own evil.
You said “The scriptures itself is got 49 layers deep”
What a load of nonsense. Show me a verse in the bible to prove this?
You said “I thinks He got deeper than many and understanding him we misunderstood his teaching.”
I am going to ask a serious question now. Have you been drinking? How is it possible to ‘understand’ someone and yet ‘misunderstand’ them? Confusion of the of devil.
1 Corinthians 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
2 Timothy 2:7 Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things.
You said ” Search the scriptures to find deeper truth about God and eternity.”
No dear David, the truth is right in front of your eyes, in the very SIMPLICITY that is the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Satan wants you to have to search deeper for his hidden occult teaching that he will present to you within the pages of the bible – by taking the gospel truth and twisting it into something deep and dark. Satan is trying to deceive you into believing that you can be a god, just as he deceived Eve in the garden of Even. Kobus van Rensburg believed this – that he was a god, immortal on this earth – yet he died physically and spiritually.
2 Corinthians 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
I also hold to the truth of immortality, probably a bit different than Kobus though. I believe that Jesus brought life and immortality to light through the gospel, I also believe that I am capable of and may someday die, it’s a real possibility. But here is where I differ, I am no longer UNDER OBLIGATION to do so, I owe death NOTHING.
Dear Joel Hooper
You said “I am no longer UNDER OBLIGATION to do so, I owe death NOTHING.”
Good luck with that, not physically dying that is. There are 2 destinations for your soul after you die and that is heaven or hell.
Please read the article again where I explain everything very clearly. Your opinion on the matter does not count, it is what God has to say on the matter and He explains it very clearly in the Bible.
Dying is not a possibility. It is a certainty.
You are merely repeating Satan’s lie in the Garden of Eden.
It’s your choice – God or Satan. I hope you make the right choice before you die.
From reading this article I see that to condemn the obvious work of God done through Prophet Kobus is evil in itself.
“Michael Soh” has said the right thing here and if you truly have the Spirit of God when you listen to people you can discern if they’re of Christ or not.. I’ve been listening to Kobus on YouTube for a while now since I dabbled on his video and his teachings has had tremendous impact on me and my ministry… I don’t know him and have never met him but I’m convinced he’s a true man of God…even the great Apostle Paul had his one doctrinal errors and yet we don’t see him as fake….it was Paul who said women should never speak in the church publicly but yet we’ve seen God use many great women like Kathryn Khulman and others you know. So please don’t condemn the work of God because of sentiment and give glory to Satan for such great move of God.. I humbly drop my opinion.
Isaac Smart. You have no discernment whatsoever. Paul received the Gospel directly from the Lord. If he had been in error, it would follow that Jesus was in error, and that is exactly what you are suggesting. In fact, you are denying that Jesus is God, and declaring without compunction that He is on par with the father of all lies, Satan himself (John 8:44). I must say you are not so Smart when you regard Kathryn Khulman as being the litmus test whereby we ought to discern between truth and error. It boils down to this: You are guilty of your own indictment “So please don’t condemn the work of God (through Paul) because of sentiment and [thence] give glory to Satan for such great move of God.