Turn2God at the Union Buildings was…

Turn2God at the Union Buildings was…A Call to a Christian type of Shaira law

Line up:
Angus Buchan * Keke * Soweto Gospel Choir * Graham Power * Elza Meyer * Zane Maes * Retief Burger * Jackson Xhosa * Lionel Peterson * Bennie Mostert * Joe Niemand * Louis Brittz * Rhema South Worship Team *  Marlon Van * Nedine Blom * Soekie and the Radikids, etc.

It was your typical Dominionist fashioned, Apostolic and Prophetic, stake your patch of kingdom earth before it’s too late, unbiblical nonsense.

Elza Meyer had a vision from God one morning to host Turn2God.

They expected 40,000 people to show up and pay +/- R100 for seats.  (These things are no longer for free).   But instead her god only managed to get 15,000 paying people to show up, or less.

The rest of the day there was this echo from the stage where the speakers constantly reminded us how terrible it was that people actually took their invitation to sit on the grass for free.

There also seemed to be terrible feedback from the speakers; mumbles and grumbles that said “if no one came….they would have carried on worshipping God all by themselves.”   Their constant hinting at the lack of turnout and paying attendees was very sad.   Bennie Mostert told the crowd much later during the day, during a ‘Give us Money’ spree that they (the pastors) were very very poor, underpaid and needed money.

Elza says of the musicians;  Soweto Gospel Choir, a full orchestra along with Retief Burger, Joe Niemand and Louis Brittz who are singing praise and worship tunes, that their music will “usher us into the Holy of Holies“.

Flag bearers came walking toward the stage from the North, the South, the East and the West carrying flags from each country of the world where Dominionist missionaries operate.  These flags were placed in place holders at the front of the stage.  The entire process symbolised countries coming together in UNITY to ask God for mercy.

Before the Turn2God gathering took place there were little spiritual warriors that had strategically moved from each province, going through towns, praying over them, binding them using territorial spiritual warfare, by way of collecting SOIL from each town they stopped at.  This symbolised their ‘capturing’ of that land and ‘reclaiming’ it for God.

Elza Meyer tells us that back in 1999 there was a prophecy about a silver trumpet that would be blown in South Africa.  “The blowing of the silver trumpet will bring salvation to this nation” we were told.  Well to our amazement a guy steps out on stage and starts blowing a silver trumpet.  Wow,  a prophecy fulfilled right in front of our eyes.  How many people fell for that one?

Later a guy comes out (not sure if it was the same guy that blew the silver trumpet) and he blows a gold trumpet.  I have no idea why!   But I am guessing we will possibly find out at the next show that on the 6th March 2010 a gold trumpet was blown and that signified the fulfilment of a prophecy of the silver trumpet being blown.  Errr….

Elza speaks about ‘cutting covenant’ with God and that it was the most fearful day of her life.  I am not sure why.  Because being born again is the most joyful day of ones life.  But if we look at the god she serves (based on false teaching) it becomes horribly clear as to why she is so scared.  Another reason why she had to continuously let us know how fearful this ‘cutting of the covenant’ was (which, by the way is totally unbiblical), was to let us know that she can be trusted, she would never lie and this covenant has her dangling from a thread – any wrong move from her would seriously damage her covenant with God.

Linda Gobodo from Vuka Africa comes on stage and tell us how ‘they’ went around and BROKE UNGODLY ALTARS across the different provinces of South Africa and then stopped in Pretoria and created a NEW ALTAR TO GOD.  Linda gives a message to Elza and says, “God is going to restore Africa, Believe it!”

Up comes Bennie Mostert a pastor at the NGK Moreletapark and runs the prayer ministry Jericho Walls.  He speak about corruption in this country and how bad it is and that South Africa needs to turn back to God.  Just as the government has a bad rep for stealing money, the church has a bad reputation for stealing money too and this needs to stop, he says.

He then mentions Malachi 4 and says that if we don’t tithe we bring a curse on this country.   How’s that for a  solution to sin?   These people speak about repentance of sin, but it’s only said for ‘show’.   Tithing to the church, giving your money away has replace repentance.  So based on what Bennie said,  the model should look something like this:


  • Government is corrupt
    • Church is corrupt
      • Church does not tithe – they rob God
        • God curses land
  • Church tithes
    • God is no longer being robed of his Old Testament LAW of tithes
      • Church becomes uncorrupt
        • Government becomes uncorrupt
  • God blesses land

Bennie speaks about Love and Grace.  He said that if you point fingers at others you don’t have grace. How do you overcome this finger pointing problem?  Well, you pray many times a day not to point fingers he says.  Bennie then points fingers at the people of South Africa and at the Union Building and says “every sin we can point out in government we can point out in the church”.  Sin is not paying your tithes he tries to persuade us again.

The music kicks in and one of the main musician’ Louis Brittz says, “There is a special anointing when you sing African music to the Lord.”

Graham Power steps up to the plate and tells us how Peter Pollock (who publishes ‘Prepare the Way’ magazine) led him to pray the sinner’s prayer with him one morning at a breakfast meeting.  18 months later Graham had 3 visions between 4am and 6am in the morning.

Vision 1

God told him to hire Newlands for the Global Day of Prayer where all churches of all denominations will come together, hold hands and pray and the prayer movement will roll across the world.  This prayer meeting took place and approximately 320 million people around the world prayed in one massive ecumenical prayer day.

Vision 2

He awakes one morning with electricity running through his body, convulsing like nuts, and God shows him a vision of 3 waves:

  1. 1st wave:  The prayer wave
  2. 2nd wave:  The ethics, values and clean living wave
  3. 3rd wave:  The revival, transformation of South Africa and Africa wave

Graham Power never went on to mention his 3rd vision.  Or was it this one:

In his talk Graham again reviewed the vision that he had of transforming South Africa, Africa and eventually the whole world. He devoted much attention to an experience that he had in February 2002 when he attended a prayer breakfast for men in Stellenbosch. The speaker was a 28-year old Coloured man of Khoi descent. He was a former gangster whose whole body is tattooed. The topic that morning was “The Holy Spirit.” Afterwards, the speaker invited the men to come forward and receive the Holy Spirit.  One of them ran away but most remained behind to receive the “blessing” of being slain in the Spirit.

Graham said that when he was touched on his shoulder he fell down but rose again after a short while. He fell down two more times. The third time he lay on the ground for 1½ hours. He felt an electric-like current flowing through his body while having “an amazing experience.” He also heard a voice speaking to him, saying, “I am the spine,” (six times), “I am the head of the spine” (six times), “I am the king” (six times) and “I am the king of kings” (six times).

Immediately afterwards, Graham had an experience outside his body. He saw himself lying on the floor on his back with his arms stretched out in the form of a cross. He then saw Africa forming around his body with his feet in Cape Town and his head in Egypt. His hands pointed toward East and West Africa. He felt a strange sensation of pain rising from his feet and legs through his spine to his shoulders and arms. He interpreted this as a revival and transformation movement that will spread from South Africa to central Africa, and eventually to the whole of Africa. He also saw his arms becoming longer and reaching around the globe. This indicated that the movement that has started in South Africa would ultimately encompass the whole world.   PLEASE SEE HERE FOR FULL ARTICLE  —  Graham Power & Angus Buchan – The Transformation of Africa

The 3rd Wave is what the New Apostolic Reformation with C. Peter Wagner in the USA have been speaking about for a few years now.  And I always wondered what on earth they were talking about.  It was not The 3rd Wave, but 3 waves.

In between all this somewhere Turn2God uses our rugby players to help gain support for their One World Religious cause.  I can’t remember who they were, but they were helping some guy promote ‘Turn2God’ rugby and soccer balls that you can guy and give to family and friends that will somehow lead them to God.  (I think at this point I was trying to find food to eat – so I was not paying to much attention).

Graham Power introduces us to Steve Johnson who pops onto the stage and speaks about an initiative called Unashamedly Ethical who’s logo is the shape of a little rainbow. He challenges the people into signing a pledge that states they are unashamedly Christian by submitting themselves to a new set of 10 commandments. You will then be governed by a Christian Ombudsman (the Christian version of Muslim Shira law).  Graham Power says it only takes 3 to 4% of the countries population to make a huge impact.

Bennie Mostert comes back on and then in typical contradictory fashion says that Chrisitians never challenge each other.  But Steve Johnson challenged the people to sign the form.  He even asked the crowd to stand if they are willing to sign.  Of course 99% stood, what ever are they to do? Keep sitting?  They are all Christians after all.

Bennie Mostert held a ‘Give us Money’ campaign.  He shared that they needed R1.1 million to cover their costs.  But does not mention what costs they need to cover.  A bit of transparency would have been nice.

‘Who will give us R25,000?’ he said.  ‘Please put your hand up.  That’s R25,000.  Thank you sir, in the back.  Who can give us R25,000?  Thank you mam.  Thank you.  Please just stand up. Thank you over there….  Ok who can give us R10,000…. *hands go up*, who can gives us R5000…. *more hands go up*, who can give us R1000?  *even more hands go up*.  Who can spare just R500!” he says.   By now 70% of the 15,000 crowd are standing.

If you don’t have cash with you, don’t worry, there are ATM’s available as mentioned earlier on in the day.

Soekie (Sandra) Schoeman led a group of little kids onto the stage; they had been practising their ‘onward little Christians soldiers’ song for ages now and wanted to perform it to the crowd.

These children are none the wiser as to the false Christian movement they have been forced into.  They really do believe in Jesus.  Soekie and her Joel’s Army band of brothers on that other hand know EXACTLY what they are following and it’s not the Jesus Christ as mentioned in the Bible.  They are trying to create a ‘New Breed’ of Christian and are using your children to do it.  These children came from orphanages, they are well looked after I am sure, but are being led into something they know nothing about.

After this, a lot of talk went into how ‘Children are the future’ and that children are going to play a BIG part in the end time Latter Rain Manifest Sons of God harvest.

All politicians are called onto the stage.  You would expect the likes of Julius Dilemma to show up (after all he needs the most prayer).  But nope, surprise;  Democratic Alliance leader Helen Zille shows up and Freedom Front Plus leader Pieter Mulder.  Elza makes a very quick apology to the crowd; there were supposed to be more politicians appearing on stage, but they did not show up.

Angus, Jackson Xhoza, Graham, Elza, Bennie and the some others start praying over Helen Zulle. It was a huge display of interfaith in action.

Zille told Rapport she shared the crowd’s belief in the importance of love. Mulder said the Christian faith had to be lived voluntarily and not enforced by law, as some speakers at the event called for.     —

Thank you Pieter Milder for having 2 open eyes.  I hope.

Then Angus Buchan finally comes onto the stage.  My potatoe chips are now really crispy after having to sit in the sun all day long. So what does Angus have to say to us?  Nothing.  It’s the same mumbo jumbo as before.   I must say that he definitely has a fixation with clouds.  As he knelt down to pray he pointed to a cloud gently flying by, being pushed by a normal breeze, that naturally moved in front of the sun for all of 10 seconds.  He declared that ‘sign’ as the presence of God!  Incredible.  Then a gentle cool breeze blew (like it did throughout the day), and he likened that to the Holy Spirit moving over the people.  Oh boy.

Anyhow, to cut a big potatoe really smaller – Angus, near the end of his performance shouts out at the top of his voice, ‘The time is NOW, for the MANIFESTATIONS OF THE SONS OF GOD!!!”

So when the event is finally nearing its end the Apostles and Prophets have gotta do it in style.  A Beautiful white horse is led between the crowd (down the isles) from the front of the stage toward the Union Buildings at the back.  The flag bearers pick up their flags again and follow the horse out of the crowd and move in their designated compass directions as before.

We were told by Elza that if you look really closely you will see Jesus riding the white horse.  No really. That’s what she said!  He is there, you just can’t see him.


I had to do some serious ducking and diving to get these ‘ACTION’ photos.

Elza Meyer, Helen Zulle and Bennie Mostert (Left to right)

Angus Buchan praying over Helen Zulle and for all politicians

Graham Power and Steve Johnson from Unashamedly Ethical (Right to Left)

Angus Buchan declaring “The time is NOW for the MANIFESTATION of the SONS OF GOD”

Little Christian Soldiers – Children recruited for Joel’s Army

Flag bearers walking North, South, East and West (Spiritual Warfare)

Union Building with Flag bearers at North point

Imaginary Jesus sitting on the white horse – If you look closely you won’t see Him

Close up of White Horse and you still can’t see Jesus

Emergent/Ecumenical Minister ‘Deon Forster’ enjoying the Turn2God Praise and Worship Music

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I see a similar (Oct 2009) USA “hate crime bill” being passed here in South Africa soon. No discrimination will be tolerated. Not against race. sex or religion.

But thats not new news is it?

Elmarie A

Deborah (Discerning the World)

Hmmm taping finger on laptop here lol lol
Ek fluister vir jou…. ons sal niemand se nie. hie hie gigels

Elmarie A

GDOP London calls every Christian in the UK to prayer

As a precursor to a National Day of Prayer at London’s West Ham Stadium on 13th June 2010, GDOP London is calling every church and Christian in the UK to a season of prayer and fasting for the nation. As the country moves closer to a historic chairos moment with the British general elections taking place May 6, GDOP London convener Jonathan Oloyede is urging the church to rise up prophetically and perform her duty as ‘kingmaker,’ reports Peter Wooding, special to ASSIST News Service.

“Every church, ward, borough or district should take responsibility in prayerfully deciding who is elected locally into public office. Churches need to hold vigils, conduct special prayer services and urge their congregants to do a little bit more towards the election which is a divine selection. If we pray then as our Lord taught us, God’s will shall be done in Brighton, Hereford, Luton, York and everywhere,” explains Dr Oloyede.

Andrea Minichiello Williams from Christian Concern for Our Nation is also encouraging Christians across the UK to fast and pray for the upcoming General Election.

“Given the state of our society, I feel burdened to call Christians across the nation to fast and pray. The Bible calls us to pray for our leaders for kings and all those in high positions. Pray that those who are elected will be MPs that would seek to espouse Godly principles at the heart of governance. Pray that we would have Christ-centred policy.”

GDOP London is also calling upon every church, village, town and city to send a delegation of hundreds to the National Prayer event at West Ham Stadium on Sunday 13th June. Organisers are also urging churches to unite locally in prayer on Pentecost Sunday 23rd May as ramp up events towards the mass gathering.

“We join with millions of Christians across the world on that day. Let us unite locally and globally. We need to consolidate the result of our prayers at the polls with united focus on what the Lord wants done in our nation over the next few years, The Lord wants us to move forward as His United Church in the nation,” said Dr Oloyede.

Tickets are free for children under 10 to allow whole families to attend.

GDOP London advises churches to book coaches for their congregations to support families, the elderly and vulnerable.

Artists lined up to lead the thousands in worship include Graham Kendrick, Noel Robinson, Godfrey Birtil, the All Souls Orchestra and X Factor finalist Beverly Trotman amongst others.


Elmarie A

To refresh your minds here. GDOP is linked to Luasanne movement and you can read and discern further here.

and also read up on Luasanne movement and the who’s who.

Just about every Evangelical is linked to this group, the likes of Billy Graham, Rick Warren, and many many more.

Elmarie A

Te voet, te fiets, te perd kom Magtige Manne
2010-04-14 22:25

Neels Jackson

Greytown. – Hulle stap en hulle trap, hulle ry en hulle vlieg.

Hoe hulle ook al kom, mans het van heinde en ver af begin instroom na die plaas Shalom waar mnr. Angus Buchan sy laaste Mighty Men-saamtrek dié naweek aanbied.

Ds. Dawie Liebenberg van die NG gemeente Danie Theron in die suide van Johannesburg het Shalom gisteroggend seervoet bereik nadat hy al die pad van Johannesburg af met ’n groot kruis oor sy skouer daarheen gestap het.

Tog kon ’n moeë Liebenberg gister nie uitgepraat raak oor die positiewe ontvangs wat hy oral langs die pad gekry het nie. Daar was mense wat vir hom slaapplek aangebied het en ander wat kom dankie sê het vir die boodskap van hoop wat hy bring. Hy kon ’n boodskap van hoop bedien en op plekke kon hy sommer op straat vir mense preek.

Mnr. Anton Fouché, wat vir die projek 2 Million Steps van Johannesburg af stap, het gister tot in Mooirivier gevorder.

Hy het gesê dit gaan goed met hom en dat daar binne ’n uur seker 100 motors by hom verby is met plakkers en baniere wat aandui hulle is op pad Mighty Men toe.

Intussen het sowat 30 fietsryers ook gister moeg op Shalom aangekom nadat hulle vyf dae tevore uit Pretoria vertrek het. Hulle het hul toer Cycle for Christ genoem.

Uit Somerset-Wes het ds. Paul Barnard van die Helderberg-gemeente gister as deel van ’n groep van tien motorfietsryers weggespring. Hulle het beplan om die 1 700km oor Graaff-Reinet en Golden Gate tot op Shalom in drie dae af te lê. Ander motorfietsryers sou langs die pad vir dele van die toer by hulle aansluit.

Liebenberg het gesê hy hoor daar is Vrystaters wat die tog Shalom toe te perd aanpak.

Intussen het die aankomelinge gister ’n sterk stroom gevorm. Daar is woonwaens, bakkies en sleepwaens.
Sommige kom met vragmotors en ander met busse.

Langs die pad word hulle op verskillende maniere aangemoedig. By Harrismith is daar byvoorbeeld ’n banier oor die pad wat konferensiegangers aanmoedig om hul motors se toeters vir Jesus te druk.

Buchan het aanvanklik die mikpunt gestel dat daar 400 000 mans by vanjaar se saamtrek sal wees. Me. Bianca Ortmann van Shalom kon gister egter nie sê hoeveel mans al bespreek het nie.

Die inligting word volgens haar doelbewus van haar weerhou omdat Buchan intussen besluit het dit gaan nie oor getalle nie.

Tot onlangs nog het Shalom egter gesê besprekings verloop beter as vorige jare en dat hulle gereed is vir tot 500 000 besoekers.

see pic here:

Elmarie A

Deborah (Discerning the World)

oooi yes tons tons tons of money to enrich themselves. 500000 heads x 150 per ticket = 750000 phew and that excludes the collections during MMC. Yikes !!!!!

Elmarie A

oooo no it is 75000000

Elmarie A

Deborah (Discerning the World)

I did offer to set up a tent to do a live performance with my parrot doing all sorts of birdie tricks but they said it won’t be profitable enough. I have to agree. I am too struggling financially. My parrot is on rations. ,

You mean lol like this

and like this wow that would be sooooo nice. Who could refuse you? Noooooooooo!!

Elmarie A
Elmarie A

Wees manne, nié sissies – Angus
2010-04-17 22:50

Die magtige manne bulder na verwagting vandag hul laaste amen op Angus Buchan se plaas.

Die opkoms by die Mighty Men-saamtrek is veel laer as die 400 000 waarvoor Buchan gehoop het (ramings wissel van 200 000 tot 300 000), maar tog het mans sedert Vrydag vir oulaas hier byeengekom om ywerig te luister hoe Buchan hulle aanmoedig om in die land en hul huishoudings leiding te verskaf.

Dit is die laaste Mighty Men-saamtrek op die plaas.

Buchan het mans aangemoedig om “wagters vir die huis” te wees deur wag te staan teen die sonde.

Hy het gepraat oor die vrees vir die land se toekoms. “Moenie van Suid-Afrika weghardloop nie!” het hy drie keer gebulder. “Jou probleme gaan jou volg waar jy ook al gaan. Daar is ook bang mense in Australië!”

Buchan was nostalgies oor die afgelope sewe jaar en die impak daarvan op mans. “Toe ek sewe jaar terug begin het, het mense my gevra ‘Vir wat noem jy dit Míghty Men? Ons dog dan Christene moet nederig wees?’ Ek het gesê ons ís nederig, maar ons is magtig in God. Ons moet ons skouers teruggooi, ons bors uitstoot en trots in God wandel.”

Buchan het ’n paar keer gesê mans moet “ware mans” eerder as “patete” (wimps) of “sissies” wees. Hy het mans aangemoedig om meer soos Elia te wees. “Elia was nie ’n sissie nie! Hy was ’n harige man met ’n leerbelt!”

Al sou dit beslis die laaste Mighty Men-saamtrek op sy plaas wees, het hy geskimp hy sou teen die einde van die naweek ’n verrassende aankondiging in dié verband doen. Daar gaan ook provinsiale en oorsese opvolgbyeenkomste wees.

Hoewel Buchan by verlede jaar se saamtrek in duie gestort het, het sy gesondheid gisteraand nog gehou. Hy het weer tydens dienste rondgetrippel en op die verhoog opstote gedoen. Die naaste aan ’n ongeval was ’n konferensieganger wat Vrydagaand kort voor Buchan se verhoogoptrede ’n hartaanval gekry het, maar ook hy het oorleef.

Mans op die plaas was vol lof vir die Mighty Men-saamtrekke se nalatenskap, maar elders was daar meer gemengde gevoelens.

Prof. Julian Müller, teoloog van die Universiteit van Pretoria, begryp gelowiges se behoefte aan ’n pelgrimstog wat ’n “gevoel van sekerheid in onsekere tye gee”.

“Die probleem is dat daar ook negatiewe elemente ingesluip het. Die Mighty Men-beweging het nie verantwoordelike Skrifgebruik bevorder nie. Die Bybel is sonder verantwoordelike interpretasie gebruik.

“En die hele idee van ‘mighty’ pas nie by die evangelie van Christus nie. Die saamtrekke het veral in die verhouding tussen man en vrou ’n godsdienstige fondament aan ongelykheid gegee.”

Die digter Lina Spies, wat Buchan al in rubrieke gekritiseer het, het gesê sy verset haar steeds teen sy teologie, want “hy verkondig die onderdanigheid van die vrou asof dit die kern van die evangelie is. Jesus het voortdurend grense oorskry: tussen Jode en Samaritane, én tussen man en vrou.”

– Rapport

Elmarie A

‘Dis groter as ooit’
2010-04-16 22:10

Greytown. – Vanjaar se Mighty Men-saamtrek het gisteraand onder dreigende reënwolke met derduisende mans begin.

Sommige het van so ver as Australië, Nieu-Seeland en Engeland op die plaas Shalom buite dié dorp toegesak vir die sewende en laaste saamtrek.

Mnr. Angus Buchan se boodskap aan hulle was dat hulle “Watchmen of the house” moet wees. Dit beteken dat hulle God se boodskap in die eerste plek in hul huise, maar ook by die werk en verder moet uitdra.

Hy het die mans aangemoedig om te sê: “Ek en my huis, ons sal die Here dien.”

Buchan het ’n sterk bekeringsboodskap gebring waarin hy aan die mans gesê het hulle kan nie dié rol speel as hul eie lewens nie in orde is nie.

Hy het onder meer gesê mans mag nie by hul sekretaresses slaap of die ontvanger van inkomste bedrieg nie.

Hy het ook gemaan teen negatiewe praatjies oor die situasie in die land en gesê daar is sommige ouens wat die duiwel se werk vir hom so goed doen dat hy niks self hoef te doen nie.

Hulle moenie vanaand bekommerd wees oor wat in Suid-Afrika gebeur nie, maar hulle moet in die eerste plek bekommerd wees oor wat in hul harte aan die gang is.

“Ek glo ons nasie sal verander. Ek sien ’n nuwe Suid-Afrika voor, ’n land van vrede en rustigheid.”

Buchan het hulle begelei in ’n gebed om hul sondes te bely, hulle opnuut tot God te bekeer en vir Hom te lewe.
“Die Here is nie hier om jou te veroordeel nie, maar om jou ’n tweede kans te gee.”

Oor sy eie gesondheid het Buchan gesê mense vra hoe hy voel. Terwyl hy op en af gespring het, het hy herhaaldelik gevra: “Lyk ek siek?”

Daarop het hy sommer tien opstote op die verhoog gedoen om te wys hoe gesond hy is.

Past. Bruce Winship, woordvoerder van die saamtrek, het vroeër gesê dis onmoontlik om ’n amptelike bywoningsyfer te gee, maar bygevoeg vanjaar se Mighty Men is groter as ooit.

Sowat 60 vliegtuie het gister ingeryg gestaan langs die aanloopbaan van die vliegveld ’n paar kilometer van Shalom, terwyl voertuie steeds na die plaas gestroom het.

Die tentedorp wat die konferensiegangers opgeslaan het, strek oor ’n kampeerterrein van 3miljoen vierkante meter en oor drie plase heen.

’n Groot mediese en brandweerspan gaan na die konferensiegangers se veiligheid omsien.

Eergister is ’n tent deur die wind geskep en teen kragdrade vasgewaai, maar daar was geen ernstige ongevalle nie. Mense wat weens die voorval brandwonde aan hul hande opgedoen het, is hospitaal toe gebring en behandel, waarna hulle ontslaan is.

Daar was ook ’n ouerige man wat ’n ligte hartaanval gehad het, maar volgens Winship het hy met ’n hartprobleem by die saamtrek aangekom.
Hier en daar het iemand gistermiddag met ’n koedoehoring geloop en dit iewers gaan blaas.

Dit word gesien as ’n oproep tot gebed of tot stryd – maar, soos een man gesê het, “nie stryd soos die ANC of Malema nie, maar ’n geestelike stryd”.

Elmarie A

Thanks Amanda for info.

Angus se preek – Saterdagoggend – 17 April 2010
“Watchmen of the House”

(Ek gaan in Oom Angus se huistaal skryf , want die vertaalwerk gaan lank vat)

Angus begin to say that every man here is ordained by God and that there is a reason why he is here.The main passage in the bible for this event is Ezekiel 3:17-19, to be a watchman for your fellow man,family and the nation.The watchman must warn people to turn from their wicked ways or else their blood will be on your hands.If you do that and they still don’t turn , at least you did the part where you stood up for God and do His will.

The previous night in the sermon angus read a sentence by some famous man of God who said ” As a man is in his heart , so he sees “. What he meaned by that was the way a man believes in his heart about the world and circumstances will also be the way he sees things through his eyes.The eyes is only a window to the heart.

The other great thing to remember is to wait on the Lord.Angus first told how he went for a whole week before the event to the woods on his farm , to seek the face of the Lord.He told how a young man from Vryheid drove 4 hours to just tell him one thing. “You are to busy !”

One of the great missionaries , the well known John Wesley,once said,”I am to busy to be in a hurry.” The lesson being not to do things over and over 10 times but do the things you must do , diligently but without being just busy and not have time for God.

We must also learn to serve and almost be like a butler or waiter in real life. If there is one thing God hates , it is pride. Angus told the story of a good friend who always as he pass a group of donkeys,will take his hat of and salute them.Angus would ask him for what he is doiing that.His friend replied that the donkey is such a humble animal and the only one with a cross on it’s back, and then it was the animal that brought his King,Jesus Christ into Jerusalem.

Then Angus read out of II Kings 2.It was about Elijah and Elisha , and the way Elisha served his master.He served him so diligently and never wanted to leave him.In the end he did twice as many miracles as Elijah, but it was his persistance to do God’s will that made him a great prophet.How do we serve the Lord on the moment…

God is challenging us to become waiters. His eyes are running to and through the crowd to see who are the people willing to serve him.The famous Martin Luther King once was asked what is the three most important things about his life. He just said , humility,humility and humility.

Angus then gave the whole crowd five minutes to just keep very quiet,close their eyes and listen what God wants to tell them. After that the whole crowd got on their knees and got the chance to repent of their sins and also to commit their lives to serve the Lord Jesus from now onwards.Jesus spend 30 years with His Father before he ministered for three years on earth.

The service came to an end with thousands of new commitments to Jesus.


Elmarie A

‘I have seen the change Angus has made’
Greg Arde
April 18 2010 at 10:51AM

There must be some magic in it. Why else would thousands of men travel to camp on a farm in the Midlands to listen to a man in a cowboy hat berate them for not being “mighty”?

The idea of a men-only gathering in the bush without wives or wine is interesting. Curious, too, is that most of the men are white Afrikaners who have come to listen to a Bible-bashing evangelist who can’t muster more than a few words in Afrikaans and until a few years ago was largely unknown.

Then consider that the organisers don’t prescribe the age of participating men, because in some cultures, according to Buchan, you are a man if you can shoot a rifle and that could be nine years old. This might seem sinister to some.

Righteous religious folk are as loved as they are loathed. Consider how people react to wars of faith, Catholic priests fiddling with boys, or thieving, womanising televangelists propping up politicians. The world is fraught with hypocrisy and it stirs people.

But what has this got to do with Buchan and the thousands of Christian men who have journeyed to his Greytown farm for seven years to seek spiritual guidance?

Nothing, except that cynics are sceptical of matters of faith.

The first person to agree is Bruce Winship, a no-nonsense Durban businessman who became a born-again Christian 15 years ago. He was among the 200-odd men who gathered at Buchan’s first Mighty Men Conference and he has attended every one since.

He has also heard just about every criticism of Buchan, including that he is a false prophet.

“Angus preaches a simple faith. Potentially it lacks some detail, but the reality of Christianity is that it is a simple message to follow… it’s about being down-to-earth, living an honest, wholesome life and correcting your priorities. I have seen the change that Angus has made in many lives, including my own.”

Winship says Buchan is not being exclusive in holding men-only gatherings. He believes he was called by God to speak to men.

“At the end of the day it is not about what your mates say. It is about what your wife and your children say. Do you honour and respect them?”

Winship says Buchan attracts criticism because he uses evangelical tools, miraculous “signs of wonder”: “Naturally people are sceptical about that. Unless you have heard the message you would regard the whole thing as unusual. But people come back feeling motivated and ready to make the changes in their lives.”

What of Buchan’s critics who say he advocates unequal relations for men and women in marriage?

Winship says the conference is as much for women as it is for men. But men need to be mentored by men to accept that they have abdicated their role in society, “and society is paying for it”.

Former Springbok rugby player Balie Swart says Buchan’s gospel is aimed at restoring families. To those who haven’t attended, the idea of men gathering in the bush sounds “bizarre”.

“But it is about being humble before God and behaving like a gentleman.”

Swart said Buchan’s message was about “standing up and being counted” – putting the family at the centre of your life, rejecting injustice and remembering “God is a God of forgiveness”.

Scott Hamilton, a Durban preacher, says the concept comes from the Old Testament where King David gathered a group of “mighty men” around him who performed great deeds.

But Hamilton says the event is far from a chest-beating “rah-rah” rally – it’s about being meek. He says men gather in small groups and draw strength from one another, to live better lives. “It’s about humbling ourselves before God. About being less opinionated; it might actually make you less mighty in the world’s eyes.”

The Reverend Fred Shaw, head of the Wesleyan Methodist Church in South Africa, has no beef with Buchan, but is wary of big evangelical events. “A rock concert and a rugby match can also create a stir and euphoria. It only lasts until bed time.”

Professor Johannes Smit, head of religious studies at UKZN, says Buchan’s events wouldn’t attract such big numbers if there wasn’t a need. “We should take note of this phenomenon. It is one of a leader who doesn’t have the normal credentials of being a leader… but who has something ordinary people can associate with.”

Buchan has sold a million inspirational DVDs in the US. He uses the money to hold his rallies. “Not one cent goes to Angus. He lives in the same wattle and daub house that he built on his farm. He drives the same old car. He doesn’t even have medical aid,” Winship says.

“Unless you hear the message for yourself you’ll never really understand… at some stage in your life you realise there is more to life than putting yourself before others.”

* This article was originally published on page 6 of Tribune on April 18, 2010

Elmarie A

Who are these mighty men?
April 18 2010 at 10:49AM

By Fred Kockott

Blood warriors, they call themselves. A bunch of Hells Angels look-alikes, but in this case they are dishing out, not punches, but Bibles, in pocket book format titled “Hope for the Highway”.

“It’s our armour,” says Francois du Plessis, referring to the motorcycle ministries’ motto emblazoned on the back of his biker’s jacket – Ephesians 6:10-20.

Du Plessis is among several hundred thousand – estimates range from 250 000 to 300 000 – men and boys who are gathered on a cluster of farms outside Greytown for Angus Buchan’s final “Mighty Men” conference at Shalom Ministries near Greytown.

Scary, freakish stuff, many say of this new evangelical cult sweeping through South Africa’s countryside – and beyond.

“Fifty-two planes have booked in. There’s a steady stream of traffic from all directions. Stage is set. Camp commanders are ready. Medics and doctors on site and standing by. Helicopters are fetching and carrying men and supplies into camps,” said a volunteer organiser, Bruce Winship, of Durban.

This was early Friday. By the evening, Winship said it was impossible to say how many people had pitched, but when Buchan took to the stage at 7pm he said history was being made.

“I have farmed maize. I’ve seen a lot of mielies, but I’ve never seen a crop of people as big as this,” Buchan told his fervent worshippers, which included Springbok coach Peter de Villiers and ardent fans blowing vuvuzelas – the original kudu horn type.

While the exclusion of women from the event has attracted criticism, and many jokes are best not repeated, Buchan made his feelings clear during his sermons.

“When men go off to war, women stay at home,” Buchan said, exhorting the audience to abandon wanton ways of the modern world, and spread the gospel of Christ.

And as he spoke, Dirk Venter and Frank Moran, translated his words into sign language. “We are here in the name of Deaf Friendly, an inter-denominational fellowship.”

Buchan said this weekend’s gathering at Shalom Ministry outside Greytown would be the last Mighty Men conference to be held there.

He said this was according to a message he had received from God.

But, he said conferences would continue to be held elsewhere, in South Africa and beyond.

Buchan said: “You cannot love God with hatred inside you. This is church, boy. This is why we are here, to get answers from God. I have never had such big vrede (freedom)… ukuthula (peace).

“There is a gentle spirit blowing through this place. I want you to open your heart this weekend. When we go home, we’ve got to sort some business out… We need to stand up and call sin by its name,” said Buchan referring to adultery, sex outside marriage and hatred.

“Jesus took 12 men and changed the world. I see hundreds of thousands of men in this place. We need to seize the moment. The future of South Africa, indeed the world, lies in the believer, in your hands and my hands. God is asking you ‘what are you going to do about it?’.”

In a sermon yesterday Buchan called on people to be patient and “wait upon the Lord”.
Scary, freakish stuff, many say of this new evangelical cult sweeping through South Africa’s countryside – and beyond.

“Fifty-two planes have booked in. There’s a steady stream of traffic from all directions. Stage is set. Camp commanders are ready. Medics and doctors on site and standing by. Helicopters are fetching and carrying men and supplies into camps,” said a volunteer organiser, Bruce Winship, of Durban.

This was early Friday. By the evening, Winship said it was impossible to say how many people had pitched, but when Buchan took to the stage at 7pm he said history was being made.

“I have farmed maize. I’ve seen a lot of mielies, but I’ve never seen a crop of people as big as this,” Buchan told his fervent worshippers, which included Springbok coach Peter de Villiers and ardent fans blowing vuvuzelas – the original kudu horn type.

While the exclusion of women from the event has attracted criticism, and many jokes are best not repeated, Buchan made his feelings clear during his sermons.

“When men go off to war, women stay at home,” Buchan said, exhorting the audience to abandon wanton ways of the modern world, and spread the gospel of Christ.

And as he spoke, Dirk Venter and Frank Moran, translated his words into sign language. “We are here in the name of Deaf Friendly, an inter-denominational fellowship.”

Buchan said this weekend’s gathering at Shalom Ministry outside Greytown would be the last Mighty Men conference to be held there.

He said this was according to a message he had received from God.

But, he said conferences would continue to be held elsewhere, in South Africa and beyond.

Buchan said: “You cannot love God with hatred inside you. This is church, boy. This is why we are here, to get answers from God. I have never had such big vrede (freedom)… ukuthula (peace).

“There is a gentle spirit blowing through this place. I want you to open your heart this weekend. When we go home, we’ve got to sort some business out… We need to stand up and call sin by its name,” said Buchan referring to adultery, sex outside marriage and hatred.

“Jesus took 12 men and changed the world. I see hundreds of thousands of men in this place. We need to seize the moment. The future of South Africa, indeed the world, lies in the believer, in your hands and my hands. God is asking you ‘what are you going to do about it?’.”

In a sermon yesterday Buchan called on people to be patient and “wait upon the Lord”.

* This article was originally published on page 6 of Tribune on April 18, 2010

Elmarie A

Mighty Men event may move to Soweto

April 19 2010 at 09:18AM
By Sibusiso Mboto
Pietermaritzburg Bureau

Next year’s Mighty Men Conference could be held in Soweto, following the decision by Greytown preacher Angus Buchan to stop hosting the annual event in his hometown after a run of seven years.

While the next venue has not been formalised, Buchan indicated that there was interest from preachers to hold the event in Gauteng but said that it was premature to give details.

Organising the conference was a daunting task, which carried with it physical, psychological and spiritual demands, and it was time for others to take over the project, but Buchan indicated his willingness to help by providing the required infrastructure to anyone planning such a gathering

Briefing the media two hours after giving his last sermon yesterday, Buchan said the conference would no longer feature in his schedule, but he was aiming at a daily television slot to spread the gospel.

“The important thing now is that people do not want religion, what they seek are answers and gatherings like these provide them.”

Buchan downplayed estimates of the number of people who had attended the conference – which varied from 250 000 to 350 000 – saying simply that he was pleased with the turnout.

“There is not a single stadium in the world that would have accommodated all the people who were here this weekend. The rewarding thing is that huge sums of money were not spent on advertising,” he said.

Zodwa Mhlongo, 36, was saddened by the news that the conference would no longer be held in Greytown, saying the three-day event enabled her to earn money. She was among the many people who helped with the logistics, gathering grass that had been cut and baled for the conference.

Mhlongo also collected the five-litre water bottles left behind after the conference. “I sell them in town. You will be surprised how many people need them to buy paraffin or petrol,” she said.

* This article was originally published on page 2 of The Mercury on April 19, 2010

Elmarie A

About the Soweto MMC. This will kick of at the new soccer stadium in 2011, I’m pretty sure. And then they will use all the new stadiums country wide. Also a thought there will be more than one MMC held not just one for the year 2011. They now have how many new stadiums?? The crowds will be enormous. hmmmmmm gimme your thoughts please.


My dear Beloved in Christ,
Greetings to you in the wonderful name of our Lord and savior Jesus Christ .first of all I praise God that he has privileged me to write this letter with generous and Godly people like you for yours kind consideration of yours precious prayer supports and co-operation with me in our ministry. Iam very grateful to you, and God has privileged me, first of all I would like to introduce my self that Iam Pastor.NEELAM.SUVARNARAJU by the call given by the Lord Jesus Christ with faith and trust. God blessed me with lovely and precious wife and two lovely daughters. we are dedicated our lives to serve the Lord we are doing Gods service since 1998.Our ministry is mainly based on Gospel work in rural and tribal and remote slum areas God spokes with us through Mark-16:15,we are reaching the village and tribal people.
We are sharing the Good news of Jesus with these people. On our ministry be half, as Almighty, God, God has given us abundant strength for the last 12years together along with our fellow pastors. We had Two own churches between the tribal peoples called yanadi, and also we had 12 fellow church congregations in 12 rural villages. We are doing street evangelism. Every Month we are visiting one rural village, we are walking on the streets, praising the Lord with spiritual songs, Distributing tracts, after we are conducting special prayer meeting. In that prayer meeting God is changing so many village people receiving Jesus as their personal savior in their lives. After the prayer meeting we are conducting free medical camp with qualified Doctors for the poor and needy village people. We are distributing medicines freely for these villages’ people who are not able to buy medicines for their sickness. By the grace of God is giving us opportunity God has privileged us, every year we are conducting Open Air Gospel Meetings and also Youth retreats, hundreds of peoples are attending in these Gospel Meetings and Crusades and receiving Jesus as their personal savior through our gospel work in India. As part of our social work, according to James-1:27, Proverbs-19:17, Psalms-41:1, 2 with our limited might and resources, since 2005 we are taking care maintaning the poor and needy orphan tribal children who are living in very pathetic condition. All these tribal families are living at the street sides and living very little huts covering with plastic covers. Some of these tribal people who don’t have huts, they are living under the shadows of the trees. All these children are going for begging at the street sides for the food. Some of these children are going for collecting the waste papers at the street sides, and selling at the shops for the food and biscuits.
They don’t have proper clothes to wear. They are not able to study; through the Lords leading we are maintaining 25 tribal orphan children in a rented House. we are providing them accommodation, food clothing, education and necessary medical care and attention as Jesus said at Matt-18:4-6, Matt-19:4 and also we are under taking some welfare measures, for 15 poor rural widows who are rejected by their family members, and who are living at bus stands, railway platforms, and who are begging on the streets for their food, every month we used to provided these poor widows provisions and 100Rs for their medical needs. By the grace of God, we are also helping 16 HIV/AIDS patients, who are rejected by their family members, who are in needy position; we are providing medicines, nutrient food regularly on monthly basis.
My dear Beloved in Christ.
At this moment we need your precious prayer supports to our ministry. We are doing our ministry completely based on faith only we don’t have any help from any where. At this moment we are looking and see king Gods help to our ministry through Godly people like you. In this regard we earnestly wish yours leadership and guidance to our ministry. We sincerely praying for yours welfare and prosperity we are urging you and praying for you, If Lord will leads our and talks with you about our ministry, through His living spirit, If God provides you an opportunity and resources, please feel free, for which work you Inspired through leading of our Lord, we are warmly and cordially inviting you to make a visit to India to share the word of God, in our church and your precious.
Gospel preaching’s highly mandatory, with pleasure. It is our humble request, please kindly pray for us, our congregations and also our co-pastors, fellow pastors, and poor orphan and destitute tribal children, poor rural widows, and also HIV/AIDS effected patients in your regular and personal prayers. At this moment we need your fellowship, If God will leads you, we earnestly request you please stretch your generous hands in to our humble ministry for the extension of the kingdom of God in India through Godly people like you please convey our heartily and lovely greetings to all your family members to all your fellow workers who are cooperating with you in your ministry and work. We are praying and awaiting for your further the most valuable, and prayerful and fruitful response at an earliest in this regard, with prayerfully in Jesus.
Thanking you,
Yours Brother in His mighty service,
P.S. Lord willing and if you are interested to view our pictures showing the activities of our Ministry. Iam prepared to forward the same by next mail on hearing from you soon.

Elmarie A

Archived from NEWS+VIEWS page JULY 7, 2009 ———–

Elza Meyer To Save 10 Million Souls Because of Demonic Attack

Elza Meyer from Moreleta Park Dutch Reformed Church had this to say… “During the Eastern Cape conference demons attacked my body. We were unable to break the effect thereof until I phoned my son, Pieter, late that night asking him to pray for me. He claimed 10 million souls, saved and baptized in exchange for the attack on my life. It immediately stopped. The Moreleta Park congregation was led to formulate a new goal for the congregation, namely 10 million souls within ten years. The overriding aim is to reach 10 million souls with the Gospel and to make them disciples of Jesus Christ.”

***WATCHMAN…I have been in deliverance for years and this is in ERROR – they made a PACT WITH SATAN – NOT GOD…


I have no doubt that deception (mixing truth with lies) is the most abominal form of all man’s sins and eniquities…it is the very voice of Satan himself in the garden of Eden and not only deceives the lost, but the elect…not to mention the faith of little children. May God have mercy and lead us out of this mess.
Deb’s I salute you for your honesty and courage in going to war against these deceptions.
Satan is serving the church with what appears to be”delicious spiritual food but it is laced with deadly spiritual poison “…because we do not read the precautions (the bible correctly and in context and obey the instructions therein.)



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