7 Colours of the Rainbow and the 7 Chakras

chakrasHow the Rainbow, Chakras/Tree of Life have infiltrated Christianity

Energy centres of the soul.  Each Chakra has it’s own function and their own unique powers.

There are actually more than 7 Chakras (a total of 13 in all),chakras Tree of Life

These 7 Chakras are the most powerful (as per occult lies) and they are located along the spine.

The 7 Chakra system is the most conventional system to follow when obtaining ‘enlightenment’.

The other 6 Chakras are less powerful (as per Occult lies) but when included in the conventional system it becomes the Tree of Life →  

In many grimoires and ancient texts, the code word for Chakra is GOD or GODDESS,  So each centre within you is A GOD or a GODDESS.

 chakrasEach Chakra is associated with a COLOUR , MANTRA and SYMBOL:

7th Charka – I understand – You have reached god/goddess level
6th Chakra – I see – Opened your Third Eye – See with New eyes or New Lenses.

5th Chakra – I speak – Higher intuition – that allows you to connect to higher wisdom and guidance.

4th Chakra –  I love  – We feel connected to other beings.  We receive inspiration and wisdom from higher Charas/Gods.

3rd Chakra –  I do – The seat of power, control, freedom, or autonomy by opening our consciousness to the will of God and peace.

2nd Chakra – I feel – The seat of creative energy and what the body needs (sexuality/food, etc.)

1st Chakra – I am – The seat of the Goddess Kundilini our supposed ‘life force’. When we are gounded at this first level we trust the universe to provide.

The 7 colours of the Chakras vs. the 7 colours of the Rainbow

7 colours of the rainbow“The experience of seeing the colours of the rainbow, when the sun is shining and it has been raining, is one we all can share. The experience often has a magical quality to it as though it is stirring some deep inner response. Such is the wonder of the light that forms the colours of the rainbow.The heavenly principle is to GIVE AS WE RECEIVE. We are not intended to absorb the light of the rainbow, enlightenment, joy and happiness, rather we are intended to transmit it; and in doing so to unfold its meaning for others, and for ourselves too.”      http://www.spiritualwisdom.org.uk/colours-of-the-rainbow.htm—–

“The rainbow represents the regenerate spiritual person – one who has lived out the path of enlightenment, whose potential has opened out like the lotus flower of the east, each stage represented by a new colour developing out of the one before.chakras

The main seven colours symbolise wholeness or holiness. There are a variety of rainbows sometimes seen around those in the spiritual realms – the rainbow of the ‘aura’, as it is sometimes called, picturing the spiritual state of the person.

Yoga teaches that there are seven centers or chakras in the human body. These are spiritual centers – you will not find them described in a materialistic medical book.”     http://www.spiritualwisdom.org.uk/colours-of-the-rainbow2.htm

The inside of the bow = The highest and innermost aspects of the soul   =   The Kingdom of Heaven

As we can see this is completely Occult / New Age / Witchcraft

If a professed Christian takes part in any of this they are playing with some serious hot fire.  You may as well get an entire deck of Tarrot Cards while you are at it.  Even though you might only be doing the Yoga stretching exercises you ARE following the ‘set out’ occult routine to obtain god/goddess hood.  And this is an ABOMINATION unto God.

You can try come up with every excuse in the book to tell me that there is nothing wrong with doing a few stretching exercises (within a Yoga context).  But these are NOT just exercises and stretching;  what about the controlled breathing, relaxation techniques, finding that silent place within you, silencing your mind, and entering trance like states, etc? (to name but a few).  Don’t get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with exercising, but when you start to follow Eastern religious practices and try make excuses that it’s JUST exercising then you are making excuses to follow after other gods.

But what about plain meditation you say, where there is no yoga or other funnies involved – it’s just prayer you tell me.  And I answer, “No!”  Unbeknown to you (and now KNOWN to you because I have told you) you are following the exact same Chakra process above.  You can’t get away from this.  You can’t make excuses, there are no, “ifs”, “ors”, or “buts”.  The answer is still ‘no’.  Meditation as mentioned in the Word of God is simple one on one normal prayer with God through Jesus Christ.

What about going to a relaxation spa or resort where they offer the most wonderful de-stressing massages.  Hot stone therapy (placing hot stones on the chakra points along your spine.  Bet you didn’t know that did you – no it’s not mentioned in the ‘Occult Massage Manual’ never to be located anywhere near the reception area.  Take Reiki for that matter –  Reiki are spirit guides – the Reiki healer will use their spirit guide to aid the so called healing process as they hover their hands over your body – you think it’s an innocent process, well no, it’s not.  And guess what, yes you do feel much better after all these massages and clanging of little bells, and having pretty semi-precious stones placed strategically over your body.  Evil really does come in great spa treatments with a complementary yummy desert at the end.

NOW DON’T GET ME WRONG, there is nothing wrong with a massage.  In fact there is nothing wrong with breathing either, because quite frankly it’s common knowledge that if you stop breathing you die.  So please let us not get all tied up in knots about what’s normal every day life exercising, stretches and breathing vs. Eastern religious practices that bring forth an awakening within you, and you end up with a new way of thinking on what the bible means or does not mean to you anymore.

You can noy call yourself a Christian if you follow and practice any form of occult teaching.  A genuine born again Christian would know that this stuff is not of God because you were already warned by the Holy Spirit that abides in you.   If you have accidentally been caught up into this contemplative prayer, meditation, walking labyrinths, silence, secret places, new spirituality mysticism, please stop, and ask God for forgiveness, get out of this very well disguised deception.  And once you realise what this is all about, you now need to warn others you care about too.

We are living in perilous times where time itself seems to have sped up.  Almost as though time is running out.  The faster time seems to speed past us the faster the world is diving head first into New Age Spiritual practices as I mentioned in this article.  Millions upon millions of people have reached their 6th Chakra already- they have opened their Third Eye (they can see through new eyes or new lenses).

Ron Martoia (who came to South Africa recently) harped on for quite a few minutes about taking off your old lenses and putting on new ones to see through new eyes at the world around us – that there is a new truth out there just waiting to be tapped into by you – yes you dear reader, if only you would do as they say and learn to climb that Tree of Life.  Place first foot on first Chakra and then 2nd foot on 2nd Chakra and so on until you reach that top branch – the Crown Chakra – King of your own little imaginary kingdom, ruler of your own little domain –  A global humanitarian mutiny to take over something they never created and will never own.   And will never be able to create to call their own.

And The One and Only Living God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob stares down on you you from on high.  Your personal Towel of Babel – a piddly 7 feet tall, will only go so high and no more – take a lesson from Genesis 10 & 11.

You have 2 choices.  Just 2. You are either for JESUS CHRIST the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON of the ONE and ONLY LIVING GOD or you choose the world and their secret places, and secret knowledge instead, where you either get to enjoy your sin or get to hide your sin thinking that God can’t see you.

Just a few of  the types of Occult Meditation out there:-  Even available at Christian book stores.

Occult Meditation

There are many ways of meditating and meditation means different things to different people. Meditation is part of normal daily practice for a great number of people within some religions. Whatever the word ‘meditation’ means to you the practice can be enormously helpful as a way of calming the mind and finding your own inner peace.  This place of inner peace is where we can open up to our higher self – without the ‘interference’ of the ego or intellect – where we can find our higher intelligence and knowing.

Meditation can be achieved by focusing the mind on a particular object, for example a flower, or on a simple shape, on a sound, on an image (visualization), or by focusing on the breathing. (Colour breathing exercises can be done lying down or sitting and can be a very helpful form of meditation.)   There are many very helpful tapes and CD’s around to help with meditation as they will talk the listener through the stages of relaxation and some will help to build a ‘picture’ in the minds eye of tranquility.   With practice, you will find it becomes easier and easier to meditate and to be able to ‘switch off’ any time, anywhere, when you are feeling the need for some peace.

Occult Breathing Meditation

Breathing is very important – and as obvious as that sounds, it is surprising how few of us actually do breathe ‘properly’. Breathing is something we all take for granted and are inclined to forget about. However, shallow breathing can often be a symptom of stress. Similarly, shallow breathing can result in fatigue and stress due to the intake of insufficient oxygen.  Shallow breathing can also result in dizzy turns as insufficient oxygen is getting to the brain. Since approximately 90% of our energy is created by oxygen and nearly all the body’s actions regulated by it – it is rather important that we get enough of it!!

Go somewhere quiet and lie down or sit in a chair with good back support so that your body is straight, allowing you to breathe deeply and comfortably. Make sure you are not wearing any tight clothing. Tell yourself to relax. Work on every part of your body from the top of your head to your toes, consciously relaxing each part. Concentrate on your breathing, taking deep in-breaths, through the nose, letting the breath fill your body, relaxing and calming. Then breathe out through your nose or mouth, exhaling all negativity and stress and ridding your body of the toxins which build up there. Repeat this a number of times – if you can only manage 10 minutes that is fine. Eventually you will be able to practice this anywhere, any time, when you are feeling stressed. Try not to hunch your shoulders as you breathe in – try to consciously relax the shoulders and neck and breathe from the abdomen – watch your tummy expand as you breathe in.

There are a number of breathing techniques which are taught by practitioners of different disciplines, either on a one to one basis or in a group, such as a workshop perhaps.   If you have a particular medical problem, then a good place to start is with your doctor, who will be able to advise you.

Occult Colour Breathing Meditation

A lovely and very helpful exercise is Colour Breathing – or breathing in the rainbow.  The purpose of this is to heighten our awareness of colour and to encourage a balance of all the seven main chakra colours for our well being.

Stand with feet slightly apart and arms by your side, relaxed with palms turned to the front. Relax the shoulders, and concentrate on your breathing, consciously relaxing all of your body from the top of your head to the tips of your toes. Breathe deeply in through the nose, holding for a few moments and then breathing out through the nose or mouth. As you breathe out, imagine expelling all the stress, negativity and toxins from your body. If you can do this exercise outside all the better, and, weather permitting, stand on grass with bare feet.

Affirmations, either spoken out loud or as a concentrated thought, can be helpful too to help us focus and avoid our minds from wandering. For example, red is the Colour of courage and strength – we could say to ourselves – the energy of red fills my body and I have the strength and courage to move forward along my life’s path. It doesn’t matter how we word our affirmations – they will be unique to each individual – but remember the positive aspects of the colours and make sure your statements are positive.

First breathe in red from the earth, imagine it rising up through your whole body giving you strength and courage. Make an affirmation to suit your situation as you breathe in and experience the colour filling your body. Allow the colour to travel up through the body and out of the top of the head and then back down again to the earth. Repeat with orange and an appropriate affirmation, then yellow. These first three colours are absorbed from the earth. Then green. This colour is absorbed horizontally through the solar plexus, let it fill your body, thinking or speaking your affirmation, and let it leave through the back. Then blue which is absorbed from the sky, through the top of the head and out again going back up to the sky, similarly with the indigo and violet.

If this exercise is done daily you will notice how your colour awareness develops and you will be able to visualize the colours much more strongly as you do this exercise regularly, balancing and enhancing your body’s energies.

Explanation of the Occult 7 Chakra Table:

Please also see important notes underlined in last column “Mind and Spirit”.

Chakra Location Symbol Colour Element Sense Body Parts Mind and Spirit
Crown7th Chakra       Sahasrara Chakra  top of head thousand-petal Lotus flower violet inner light empathy brain, nervous system,pineal gland the Crown, or Seventh, Chakra is a source of divine energy and self-realization. It is the gateway to the other world.  An open and balanced Crown Chakra allows us to experience oneness with God and unity with all beings.  We surrender to Divine Will. We can experience enlightenment, inner light, higher consciousness and higher intelligence.
Chakra Location Symbol Colour Element Sense BodyParts Mind and Spirit
Third Eye

6th Chakra       Ajna Chakra
center of forehead two-petal Lotus flower indigo inner sound Sensory Perception (ESP), clairvoy-ance, clairaud-iance forehead, temples, facial nerves, pituitary gland, endocrine system. the Third Eye, or Sixth, Chakra belongs to the spiritual realm and vision. It ishome of the spirit and the part of consciousness that influences our actions and our life. An open and balanced Third Eye Chakra allows us to look beyond our own issues to see a more complete, “enlightened” picture of reality. We become aware of the motivation behind our actions. We may experience extra sensory perception (ESP), inner sound and clairvoyance.
Chakra Location Symbol Colour Element Sense Body Parts Mind and Spirit
Throat  5th Chakra         Vishuddha  Chakra base of throat sixteen-petal Lotus flower sky blue ether (crossover between the physical and spiritual worlds) hearing throat, neck, arms, hands, thyroid gland the throat is our instrument of communication, thus the Throat, or Fifth Chakra is the seat of communication and expression of all that is happening in our consciousness. An open and balanced Throat Chakra allows us to communicate truthfully and express our feelings, as well as our creativity. We will be able to receive, allowing abundance and grace to be experienced. We will listen to our intuition and connect to a higher wisdom and guidance.
Chakra Location Symbol Colour Element Sense Body Parts Mind and Spirit
Heart 4th Chakra     Anahata Chakra center of chest, heart twelve-petal Lotus flower green air touch circulatory system, lungs, chest area the Heart, or Fourth, Chakra is the joining point between the higher and lower chakras. Here we experience perceptions of love, emotions, compassion, and balance. An open and balanced Heart Chakra will allow us to feel connected to other beings, to understand unconditional love, to accept others and not judge them or condemn them. We also experience a lightness of being that is nourished by the inspiration and wisdom of the higher chakras and strengthened by the grounding energy of the lower chakras
Chakra Location Symbol Colour Element Sense Body Parts Mind and Spirit
Solar Plexus  3rd Chakra     Manipura Chakra solar plexus ten-petal Lotus flower yellow fire (or Sun) sight solar plexus, muscles, skin, digestion, liver, eyes, face the Solar Plexus, or Third, Chakra is the seat of our desire for power, control, freedom, or autonomy. A balanced Solar Plexus Chakra will enable us to be confident and comfortable with ourselves, while opening our consciousness to the will of God and peace. Our creativity and work will manifest easily.
Chakra Location Symbol Colour Element Sense Body Parts Mind and Spirit
Sacral  2nd Chakra Svadis-thana Chakra center of abdomen six-petal Lotus flower orange water taste sexual organs, reproduc-tive system. the Sacral, or Second, Chakra is the seat of our creative energy and is associated with what the body needs and what it finds pleasurable (sexuality/food). A balanced Sacral Chakra enables us to accept and solve the challenges of life in a creative manner; to understand and incorporate our sexuality responsibly, and to feel and express our emotions.
Chakra Location Symbol Colour Element Sense Body Parts Mind and Spirit
Root 1st Chakra   Mulad-hara Chakra base of spine four-petal Lotus flower red earth smell lymph system, skeleton, elimination, central nervous system, nose, lower extremities The Root, or First, Chakra is the seat of the “Kundalini” or life force.Our feelings of security, trust, and survival are rooted here, as well as our connection with the physical body and its nourishment. When our root chakra is balanced, we feel grounded, strong and secure and trust the universe to provide.

The Bible says in Genesis 3:5  “For God knows that in the day you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

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Deborah Ellish is the author of the above article. Discerning the World is an internet Christian Ministry based in Johannesburg South Africa. Tom Lessing and Deborah Ellish both own Discerning the World. For more information see the About this Website page below the comments section.

82 Responses

  1. Amanda says:

    Alrighty then. Moving along.

    Here is another link to Chris Rosebrough’s review of two sermons preached by Shane Hipps, friend of thinker Rob Bell. See what you think of this Christian, Chris’ thoughts on Shane’s sermon on enlightenment from the Gospel of John chapter 1, no less.

    And heed Chris’ words well, Christian. Do not do what Shane preached to his church to do. You would be opening yourself up to demonic influence.

  2. Amanda says:

    Dr. Guillaume Smit responds:

    A Christian New Age Blog Entry
    Labels: irony, satire

    I was very surprised to stumble along the following blogpost over the weekend. I’ve come to know this particular blogger as a person with radically fundamentalistic views regarding the Christian religion.

    Here, suddenly, she places an article on buddhist prayer, linking it to the colours of the rainbow. I would have given her credit if she included any explanatory remarks, but the only piece of information is the heading, “7 Colours of the Rainbow and the 7 Chakras,” leaving the article open to any possible interpretation.

    Two thoughts spring to mind.

    First, since when does the colours rainbow signify anything buddhist? If I understand the Genesis story correctly, the rainbow was given as proof of God’s promise to Noah. Therefore, she must be implying that the Bible is actually linking with Buddhist religion to help us Christians with meditation and prayer. That’s awfully nice of her, but I’m not going to pray any of these mantras soon, thank you. As far as I can remember, the rainbow has Christian symbolism, reminding us of God who keeps his promises. Anybody else who wants to utilise the symbol for some other meaning – like DTW’s blog post, or the use of the rainbow as symbol for the gay movement – do this on their own conscience. The Bible was first. And if a Christian blog such as DTW posts new age stuff without any explanation one would be bound to think they are dabbling with syncretism.

    Second: I could invite the devil into my soul without knowing it by reading this post! DTW should be on the look out that she doesn’t get bound by any demons by placing curses on her through this obvious dabbling with other religions and philosophies.

    For clarity: As I’ve read through previous entries of this blog,I came to the conclusion that a Christian who reads stuff from people with demonic, new age or emerging church links, will open themselves to creating a strong-hold for a demonic force in their own lives. DTW is doing just that with this specific entry.

    So, somebody, please help me out here: As I’ve read quite a few books from her lists of emerging church thinkers, does anybody know an excorcist close at hand that can come pray with me? I really don’t want to become caught in the devil’s trap unknowingly through my interest in other Christian’s thoughts!
    Posted by Guillaume Smit

    I … I … am speechless!

    For now.

  3. Discerning the World says:

    Oh my, I am also speechless. How can anyone misinterpret my article like that? *confused*

    Besides he reads Leonard Sweet and ranks him on his list of good books….

  4. Discerning the World says:

    I have made the following comment on Guilluame’s website: http://emergingbracken.blogspot.com/2009/09/christian-new-age-blog-entry.html

    Guilluame LOL, you are a pathetic little man. You can’t come and have biblical discussion so you go and find some rubbish to speak about. You are a fool second to none.

    The Rainbow has Christian symbolism when God promised HE would NOT DESTROY SINFUL WICKED MANKIND again via a Flood. I consider the rainbow God sent as a Promise that
    He would not destroy mankind that way again, but also as a reminder of what he did once to a wicked people who followed after OTHER GODS like you and Stephan Joubert and Nelus Niemands and Brain McLaren, Rob Martoia, Leonard Sweet etc, etc, etc, etc who preach occult teaching and lead them VERTICALLY up the tree of life – you know the one IN THE BIBLE.

    I pray your congregation catch wind of your sly wolf dribble soon

    Edited by DTW – 9 Oct 09:

    Public apology to Guilluame made here: http://emergingbracken.blogspot.com/2009/09/christian-new-age-blog-entry.html – I hope he posts this one too.


    I would like to make a public apology to you regarding my unnaceptable comment to you above. I should not have called you pathetic and foolish. I sincerily apologise for these nasty words of mine.

    Deborah @ Discerning the World

  5. Amanda says:

    Can somebody please, please explain the satire in Dr. Guillaume Smit’s post to me? I don’t get it. [Ek is ‘n ou vrou en het nie tyd vir nonsies nie.]

    Thank you.

  6. Discerning the World says:

    Nope, sorry Amanda I can’t help you either. Maybe we should just write this one off…as a bad joke.

    Guilluame maybe take up gardening or decoupage or something

  7. cecilia says:

    hey! watch out! I’m doing decoupagé! this is quite interesting topic to follow if you read all the blogs on the same matter on the same day! cecilia

  8. Discerning the World says:

    Hahaha C, but your’re a woman and woman do decoupage :)

  9. Amanda says:

    Dr. Guillaume Smit adds:

    I need to add a last, final remark, though: After I pointed out the fallacy of the blog post on DTW, the writer actually reacted (see the comment section below) and then changed her blog entry to include a paragraph on faith in Christ.

    Although it is appreciated that she took the confusion and my comment to heart – and tried to correct the false teaching with a paragraph under the heading,”AS WE CAN SEE THIS IS COMPLETELY OCCULT,” added to the entry – the question remains: what about those persons who read her initial entry over the past few days (before Sunday evening) and actually started meditating the chakras as she discussed it?!

    Okay, I get it now. He did not scroll down and did not see the ‘paragraph’ that followed the table. It was included in the original article. I made reference to a particularly interesting line in an e-mail I sent on Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 9:55 PM. I saved the article 27 September 2009 12:57:15.

    People do not need DTW to start meditating. They have Stephan Joubert teaching it to them in the Dutch Reformed Church.

  10. Discerning the World says:

    Oh my goooddddneeeessssssssssss me…. *astounded, almost faints, shocked beyond belief, totally flabberghasted- calls Leonard Sweet to let him know that Guilluame Smit might have miss-read every single one of his books and mistaken them as being Christian*

    Guilluame, I tell you what, instead of lying just admit that you did not click the CONTINUE TO READ THE REST OF THIS ARTICLE HERE link. In fact I am wondering if you have read any of them. No, you haven’t otherwise you would have known about the CONTINUE TO READ THE REST OF THIS ARTICLE HERE link. Or last case scenario, just to give you the benefit of the doubt – You just DID NOT READ the entire article and did not scroll down to below the table.

    In fact if you read all my articles you would see the inclusion of faith in JESUS CHRIST the SON OF GOD. And that is the real Jesus Christ of scripture – not the New World Christ.

    And I guarantee you everyone who read any of my blog since Sunday would have seen all of this – Take off those occult glasses Guillaume and put back your old glasses called the BIBLE.

    I suggest getting a cactus, they are hardy plants and are easy to take care of, i.e., not much attention is needed in looking after them.

  11. Discerning the World says:

    Oh and just for you, I moved the MASSIVE paragraph that was there ALL THE TIME higher up so you can see it and added some extra details for you incase you are still confused.

    I still think a cactus is a good choice.

  12. Discerning the World says:

    After moving the my paragraphs from below the table to above the table because Guilluame didn’t see them as they were below the table. The table is just not fitting on the page properly (re:- width) – sorry folks, I am working on the problem.

    For Guilluame: this means that the table is really not fitting on the page. Just incase you miss-read the sentense, or skipped over it, or just didn’t see it. This also means that the paragraphs were originally there (AT THE BOTTOM OF THE TABLE) I have moved the paragraphs above the table now.

  13. cecilia says:

    “But unbeknownst to you, you have become the demon you are accusing other to be harbouring in their midst.”
    “I have never, ever in my whole life have even heard of the 7 Chakras, or read anything by any Christian writers …”

    hallooooooeeee! I’m calling from Mars! This is what Scripture calls ‘maliciously speaking’. I truly did not expect this of one who says he believes in and lives out Jesus. MS – just let it go, you are harming yourself, your congregation, others who believe in biblical Jesus, those who might still come to faith and unbelievers!


    ps, maybe you should relax a little on your orthodox reformed theology … just a thought … I got a feeling it’s keeping you in bondage ….


    just to name three…. google search to find more.

  14. Discerning the World says:


    I had to repent and ask Jesus for forgiveness for the day I was once slain in the spirit (yip, Slain in the Spirit peeps). Our deliverance comes through Jesus Christ and repentance of our sin. Even unbeknown to us at the time – because we were foolish and didn’t know any different. Close any doors that have been opened up by being led astray through ‘white’ Christian magic- recognise these things through the guidance of the Holy Spirit in one’s life and then ask Jesus for forgiveness and deliverance is instant. There are not enough words in the world to describe the wonder and power and majesty of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ who died for us that we who believe in Him through faith may be saved.

    Jesus Christ King of Kings, Lord of Lords, in All Power and Glory seated at the right hand of the Father waiting to return. A God so mighty that no mind can comprehend His magnificence but yet there are lowly little minds on this earth who think they are so special – deserving of special treatment – this special treatment involves not having to humble themselves before their CREATOR and admit their sin.

    Well I am a sinner, I humble myself before my Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ every day and I beg Him for forgiveness for I am not worthy to be saved. That He went through the most agonizing pain and suffering for me, taking on the sin of the world, paying a debt for me. That he died and his blood washes me spotless that I can be presented before our Heavenly Father. Then tomorrow I wake up and I am humbled again at the awesome work He does in my life – when I don’t deserve it because I am a sinner. A sinner saved by grace. I cry…over the love that I feel I don’t deserve. But He showers me with more and then I just cry even more.

    And then you have people who kick Jesus in the face, they laugh at Him and mock Him. They take His Words and twist them. They stand by the side of wicked people and watch with glee as those who really love Jesus will get taken away and imprisoned or murdered just because they BELIEVE with ALL THEIR HEART that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. And that nothing will tear them away from Him.

    What I wrote in this article is the CORE of what is going on in the Church. All New Age Spirituality / Occult teaching centers around this. But yet they will read this and either ignore it, insult me, call me a liar, attack my belief in Jesus Christ, dismiss anything I saw as being pathetic because only the learned theologian can know it all.

    But you know what…I don’t care. I will carry on warning… I love Jesus Christ way too much to give into a bunch of evil doers – if anything happens to me, it will be for God’s Glory ONLY. Jesus’ message of Salvation will never cease no matter how hard these people try destroy it.

    What turns my tears into smiles? Knowing that I have Jesus Christ on my side and knowing that the Holy Spirit is speaking to people right now warning them to get out of this false church. It warms my heart to know that someone out there somewhere read something on this blog of mine, and by the grace of God and the gentle whispers of the Holy Spirit got saved.

    Well, now that I have a blocked nose and an onset of a sinus headache from sobbing my heart out here…I will hence forth proceed to bed.

    Nighty Night

  15. Amanda says:

    Dr. Guillaume Smit continues:

    I can vouch for my own integrity, and I know for a fact that your so-called “moved up higher paragraph” was shining in its absence on your blog the whole of Saturday and until at least Sunday afternoon. I know, because my incredulity was so big as you so seemingly lied to your readers while insubstantiatingly accusing other Christians of heresy, that I had to return to your blog several times just to make sure my eyes do not deceive me.

    Now that you’re caught with your proverbial hand in the cookie jar, let me just say this: How can you expect anybody to take your other views seriously when you:

    I repeat: It was included in the original article. I made reference to a particularly interesting line in an e-mail I sent on Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 9:55 PM. I saved the article 27 September 2009 12:57:15.

    DTW, could you please forward my saved copy that shows the original layout to Dr. Smit?

  16. Discerning the World says:

    Oh boy, Guillaume. It’s been there all the time. Prepare your ‘I am sorry speech’. Actually just a plain, ‘I am sorry’ would do.

    Oh wait I also had it sent to me cos I am on my own subscription list…doh. Oh 2 copies to prove you wrong twice :)

    Oh gosh, can’t email them to GS dunno what his email is. I’ll just save the emails as PDF’S and load them up here for download.

    Make that 3:




    And don’t worry about saying sorry Guillaume …because only you will know in your heart if you are really sorry or not – so saying it won’t mean much.

    You still follow after leaders and preachers who slither in dark arts, you place men who are against Christianity on a pedistal, you lift them up high so they can entice and seduce using big words to impress and convince youngsters – you grovel at their feet lifting them up as being Christian. But you put me down who exposes the darkness that has infiltrated the church.

    Well I actually didn’t expect any less. It’s typical Emergent tactics: ‘if all else fails, lie your way out of it – even if no one believes you, just lie. – even if the proof is smacking you left right and centre – just lie and deny.”

    As for this not allowing comments only by those who I want is a load of nonsense – I allow everyone to comment until they turn downright nasty. I have asked you to come comment here but you won’t, you hide… in that little secret place.

    Questions and Answers regarding GS’s new article…
    When is it permissable to lie in Jesus’ name?

    It’s amazing to see how a cat on a hot tin roof can make precarious leaps.

    My dear friend from the Christian Hate Blog, Discerning the World, suddenly tries to convince her readers that she had her paragraph on how the 7 Chakras have become part of Christian thinking in her original blogpost all the time. She accuses me of the occult and what not else, while she has been lying through her teeth.

    >>>>>>>>> No, no…you are the deceiver here.

    DTW, I initially couldn’t believe my eyes when I first read your post, on Saturday if memory serves me correct. I returned to your blog several times, dumbfounded, since you were the one writing a whole post on how I am deceiving Christianity with my article on the end of Ramadan, and saying I am luring my congregation into the occult, or something of the sort.

    In all your blog entries and the comments which you participated in, you didn’t hesitate for a single moment to murder my character and integrity without even ascertaining for yourself of what I believe. You just thundered along and joyously participated in the lie the devil (which you profess to oppose) is spreading about ordinary pastors and Christian thinkers.

    Now you have been caught out.

    >>>>>>>>> No, no…you believe that celebrating ramadan which is a worship fast for the god Allah is just super cool and even twittered Brian McLaren with a ‘ohhh I so admire you even more because you are celebrating Ramadan” or something to that effect. And if your congregation find that problematic then you have a seriously smart congregation – hats off to them. YAY for all Christians out there who can think for themselves, who use their GOD GIVEN brains to study the Word of God for themselves and TEST their pastor to see if he is telling the truth. I don’t read anywhere that when you get a degree in theology or religious studies and become a pastor that one becomes immune to telling half-truths and can’t be questioned anymore for they passed an exam of sorts that supposedly asked the truth and nothing but the truth. Quite the contrary actually seems to take place.

    >>>>>>>>>And nope, tis you that hast been caughtest outest.

    >>>>>>> No, you only choose to read what you want, and now refuse to say sorry for making a simple mistake.

    I can vouch for my own integrity, and I know for a fact that your so-called “moved up higher paragraph” was shining in its absence on your blog the whole of Saturday and until at least Sunday afternoon. I know, because my incredulity was so big as you so seemingly lied to your readers while insubstantiatingly accusing other Christians of heresy, that I had to return to your blog several times just to make sure my eyes do not deceive me.

    Now that you’re caught with your proverbial hand in the cookie jar, let me just say this: How can you expect anybody to take your other views seriously when you:

    >>>>>>>> No, I only moved the paragraph higher up this afternoon. Please see snapshots saved to pdf from 3 seperate people prooving that content was there all the time – you are making a big mountain out of a mole hill to cause trouble and detract us all from the FACTS.

    i) don’t even make sure your articles are posted completely. I am subscribed to several blogs via a RSS feed, DTW’s blog included, as this allows me to read only the latest articles that are being posted. When you click on the link, the whole article pops up and not just a headline with a link saying something like “continue to read further”, thus I know for a fact I was not mistakenly leaving out some part of this article of yours;

    >>>>>>> Well then you are the only with this problem, see proof above that it was there all the time and you just can’t admit you were wrong. It’s not a big deal, gosh people do things like this all the time, but they don’t go off and write fairytale after fairytale as to how everthing looked different when they saw it. They just say, ‘oops, sorry’

    ii) can’t even run an ordinary spell check on your articles to correct your own typing errors;

    >>>>>>> You can’t tell the difference between what’s Christian and what’s Occult. You can’t tell the difference between Jesus Christ and a fake Christ

    iii) don’t even have the decency to spell your adversaries’ names correctly or get their titles right (since you so eagerly want to tell your readers you are attacking rev So-and-so and not just any Tom, Dick and Harry) – as a matter of public record, my name is spelled G-U-I-L-L-A-U-M-E;

    >>>>>> LOL, so spelling your name correctly is more important than making sure you don’t follow after new age leaders teaching doctrines of demons and leading your church right to hell. Which YOU will be held accountable for. I apologise for spelling your name incorrectly.

    iv) expect your readers to trust your word and your word alone on the deception you say is seeping into the church, while you hide behind anonimity (what is your real name again? What real-life ministry do you conduct off-line? To what group of spiritual leaders are you accountable to?); and

    >>>>>> No, there is this book called the Bible where the WORDS can be TRUSTED ABOVE ALL, your words, church affiliations, ministries, and those you think you are accountable too or those you think are accountable to you.

    v) You refuse to publish the comments of people opposing your views, choosing instead to only publish those of the people who strengthen your own views (like Cecilia’s and Amanda’s – interestingly, their names pop up only on your blog and that of Thomas Lessing’s – couldn’t you perhaps be the same person in real life?).

    >>>>>>> Errrrr…ok, I’ll play along. Yes I am the same person as myself, in fact I am cecelia, amanda, Thomas, Sarel, Stephan Joubert, Roger Saner. In fact if you ask Nic Paton nicely he will be anyone you want him to be.

    You take so high a position on repentance and the confessing of sins to receive redemption in Jesus’ name. And you cannot wait to tell your readers who has fallen in the trap of satan. Yet when YOU make a mistake, you have neither the integrity nor the emotional intelligence to accept responsibility for your mistakes, choosing to attack the person personally rather than his/her viewpoints.

    >>>>>>> Um, ok we have covered this one already a few times. I did not make a mistake, you just can’t read properly.

    Let it forever stand that you placed an article without checking if it has published correctly, and when your mistake was exposed, you chose to shift the blame rather than making sure there wasn’t an honest misunderstanding somewhere that you could have been responsible for.

    >>>>>>> Let it forever stand that you follow after occult teaching and teachers and when exposed like to shift the spot light off you onto by using downright silly arguments. So you make up stuff like this and then go write an article about it. Well goody gum drops for you, but it didn’t work. You managed to do a great job of digging a big hole for yourself on that very first article you wrote about Thomas and others and then the one about “Islam being a culture” was classic blunder of note.

    And let it forever stand that your conduct in all this was to belittle and harass your opponent personally, rather than sticking to the issue. This is totally unacceptable in light of the Bible. You are no better than Ananias and Saffira (Acts 5). You are like king Saul when Samuel told him God has rejected him. You are exposing yourself as a sower of discord in the body of Christ, hiding behind your so-called theological purity. But unbeknownst to you, you have become the demon you are accusing other to be harbouring in their midst.

    >>>>>>> And let it BE FOREVER…bla bla bla….bla…bla…..bla…bla….harrass you personally? HUH!!! What about all those Christians saved out of Islam who face the death penalty. Now that’s harassment. Anyhow back to the Bible, you know there was this guy called Simon Magus, well you fit his story rather well. Delving into occult teaching, he even tried to buy the Holy Spirit from Peter to sell to his followers.

    >>>>>>> Let me remind you of something. THOSE WHO PREACH ANOTHER GOSPEL, A GOSPEL THAT IS ANTI-CHRIST are the ones who sow discord in the body of Christ. These wolves who crept in unawares and has shredded teeth through the pages of scripture.

    >>>>>>> Since the beginning I have not once called you a bretheren or brother in Christ for you are not a genuinely born again Christian. If you were you would not be confused and one minute call me a sister and then a demon, then another time a Christian sister and then an instrument of the devil. I know who rules your heart, I know who controls your tongue – you are two faced and have a forked tongue.

    One last point: I have never, ever in my whole life have even heard of the 7 Chakras, or read anything by any Christian writers remotely resembling what you have published in this post you now so fervently defend. I haven’t even seen traces of this in the publications of the so-called fringe writers (people who are willing to harbour ideas that I, an orthodox reformed theologian, would consider strange and theologically unsound).

    >>>>>>> You’ve never heard of it? Youre kidding? Nah…I think you are kidding. But I’ll play along again, of course you haven’t that’s why it’s called a DECEPTION. Do you think they are going to present poison to you on a silver platter labelled poison? No! Wake Up and smell the coffee. So you don’t know what your friend Stephan Joubert speaks about? How about Ron Martoia when he was here in SA ? I find it hard to believe you have no idea what Leonard Sweet is talking bout? Are you saying that you are just blindly following what they say and nodd your head when everyone else nodds their head, trying to make it seem like you know what on earth these guys are actually talking about? ……. But then again you don’t think there is anything remotely wrong with Harry Potter. Ok, nevermind, don’t asnwer that one.

    Are you quite sure you are barking up the right tree? It seems that you are so trying to convince Christiandom of the imminent arrival of the antichrist (according to your own theology), that you are actively creating an alternative scenario in which the devil has more power than afforded to him by the Bible.

    >>>>>>> Oh so you don’t believe there will be an anti-Christ? Or a man of lawlessness as so plainly and clearly stated in the Bible…well that answers a ton of questions. As for the last part of that sentence…..”alternative scenario in which the devil has more power than afforded to him by the Bible.” Well no GS becuase he was defeated 2000 years ago by Jesus Christ – Satan has no right over us. But he can still prowl around and he is devouring those who choose to follow after him instead of Jesus Christ – we just have to take a look at your favourite authors list to get a glimps of that. Also if there is not going to be a man of lawlessness then who is Jesus Christ coming back to judge?? Or is the Christ you wait for, a diffeent Christ who comes to bring you heaven on earth, sin and all.

    It would seem to me that you are actually the one who is busy doing the devil’s job for him and not the writers who you so generously accuse of heresy. You must beware that one of these people you so incessantly accuse don’t get fed-up with your bullying and harassment and take you to a secular court for libel or something of the sort. A few of my readers actually have quite serious legal credentials and according to them you have stepped over this boundary already.

    >>>>>>> *yawn* yes I’ve heard that you do that often – threaten with legal action….*yawn*

    With this I am openly and personally admonishing you to do some introspection. The road along which you and your friends are travelling are destroying God’s work and enhancing that of the devil. You are not protecting the Christian faith. On the contrary. You are destroying it. And in the process you are lying and twisting the truth and creating tremendous stumbling blocks for the spreading of gospel of Jesus Christ. Those of us who are seriously trying to reach a lost generation with the one and true redemption of Jesus Christ now not only have to fight against the blockades of sin, but also against the prejudices towards the Redemeer Himself, as this is created by people like you, your judgemental legalism and your childish behaviour.

    >>>>>>> *yawn*

    As I said previously to other bloggers who share your views, I will henceforth not be involved in any discussions or arguments with you, as I know it will only result in more mudslinging and harassment from your side.

    >>>>>>> who? I thought all those people (Thomas, amanda, cecilia and sponge bob) were all me in disguise. Mudslining and harrassment from my side only? Yeah you are soo right, I have not seen a single nasty word come from you… *puts halo on top of your head* A Halo is a depiction of the Catholic Sun God worship you know (have you read about this before anywhere?) – maybe next year you can wear it when you go to Mecca (all faiths are uniting so you should be all excited about this).

    >>>>>>>>>>>You know that in the last days Jesus Christ says he doubts He will find any faith left on earth when he returns. So yes, we are in the minority (speaking about the fundermentalists that is aka born again Christians – Emergents so love to call us fundermentalists – fundermentalists because we hold onto the fundamentals of the Word of God). This is why you don’t really have anything to worry about when it comes to people ever leaving your church once they find out you are New Age Christian. There are thousands of people out there just busting at the seams to get to know your New Age Christ. Your church will be overflowing…but remember what Jesus said about finding little faith when he returns. The narrow parth is the one to follow not the wide path to GS’s church door.

    But know this: If you publish anything remotely untrue again, I and others like me will not hesitate to hold you accountable for your half-truths and twisted ramblings. We are part of the one and only body of Christ, and we will not stand on the sidelines any longer watching you actively destroy God’s work with your slanderous yapping

    >>>>>>> *ghasps* untrue? NO GS you are the one who is telling untrue things and saying it’s biblical, all I am doing is quoting your words (in fact I am not even just quoting your words, I am critiquing your ENTIRE articles as a whole so if what you have written is untrue then….errrr….*silence, crickets, krikk krikk, krikk krikk*

    Anyhow, just to let you know I will WARN WARN WARN WARN WARN the flock, the ones you lead astray until the day I die.

  17. cecilia says:

    Dr. Guillaume Smit – 2009-09-27
    “Second: I could invite the devil into my soul without knowing it by reading this post!”
    “does anybody know an excorcist close at hand that can come pray with me?”

    YES, oh yes, I do!

    But I have to say this first, as a ‘religious man’ you should know that it is by your own free will you ‘invite the devil into your soul’

    My previous pastor used to ask anyone who ask him to pray for them: did you pray for yourself yet? After Jesus came, we actually don’t need ‘an excorcist’ (your spelling), we already have ‘a DELIVERER’, His name is Jesus Christ; for – “He was delivered over to death for our sins and was raised to life for our justification.” (Romans 4:25)
    And – “Do not say, “I’ll pay you back for this wrong!” Wait for the LORD, and he will deliver you.” (Proverbs 20:22)
    But there’s a warning also: “Though you already know all this, I want to remind you that the Lord delivered his people out of Egypt, but later destroyed those who did not believe.” (Jude 1:5)

    DTW – well done with this article! keep standing! cecilia

  18. cecilia says:

    for interest sake DTW: the people who pray for others in many churches/organizations, touch these specific areas during prayer. when I realized it whilst reading the article again, I was shocked that that was exactly where I was touched whilst being prayed for (in the past). cecilia

  19. cecilia says:

    “>>>>>>> Errrrr…ok, I’ll play along. Yes I am the same person as myself, in fact I am cecelia, amanda,…”
    I’m gonna turn emergent for a second: DTW, my name is Cecilia; PLEASE spell my name correctly: C-E-C-I-L-I-A !!
    LOllllllllll c

  20. Discerning the World says:

    I can’t find C-E-C-I-L-I-A in the spellchecker ;)

  21. Roger Saner says:

    Many of my comments have been deleted off this blog (although most of them haven’t). This lends some credibility to Guillaume’s claim of: “You refuse to publish the comments of people opposing your views.”

    That said, this debate is so tiresome. I’m outta here.

  22. Amanda says:


    You refuse to publish the comments of people opposing your views,
    choosing instead to only publish those of the people who strengthen your own views

    Is this true? Roger Saner, Nic Paton and the others agree with DTW?

    (like Cecilia’s and Amanda’s – interestingly, their names pop up only on your blog and that of Thomas Lessing’s – couldn’t you perhaps be the same person in real life?).

    C-E-C-I-L-I-A, I beseech you, tell me the truth. How many times have you commented on Thomas’ blog? Or am I you or you me or are we both D-T-W? By the way, Thomas is a real man.

  23. cecilia says:

    you’ve been cursed (called negative names) SOOO much D, hated over the internetwaves. But:
    “1 May the LORD answer you when you are in distress;may the name of the God of Jacob protect you.
    2 May he send you help from the sanctuary and grant ou support from Zion.
    3 May he remember all your sacrifices and accept your burnt offerings. Selah (pause and think about this)
    4 May he give you the desire of your heart and make all your plans succeed.
    5 We will shout for joy when you are victorious
    and will lift up our banners in the name of our God.
    May the LORD grant all your requests.
    6 Now I know that the LORD saves his anointed;
    he answers him from his holy heaven with the saving power of his right hand.
    7 Some trust in chariots and some in horses,
    but we trust in the name of the LORD our God.
    8 They are brought to their knees and fall,but we rise up and stand firm.” Ps 20
    I just want to say: p’s 2 u! c

  24. Amanda says:

    Dr. Guillaume Smit: “But know this: If you publish anything remotely untrue again, I and others like me will not hesitate to hold you accountable for your half-truths and twisted ramblings. We are part of the one and only body of Christ, and we will not stand on the sidelines any longer watching you actively destroy God’s work with your slanderous yapping.”

    As you wish.

    “I can vouch for my own integrity, and I know for a fact that your so-called “moved up higher paragraph” was shining in its absence on your blog the whole of Saturday and until at least Sunday afternoon.”

    This is a lie. Six paragraphs was written under the heading: As we can see this is completely Occult / New Age / Witchcraft (whatever you want to call it). This was in the original posting on Saturday.

    The previous paragraph is either true or it is not. Either you accept it as true or you have to make good on your threat of holding us accountable.

    Just so that you know, the Body of Christ will not lift a finger against me. You have my e-mail address that you may forward to your lawyer. Hoping to hear from her soon as your integrity is at stake.

  25. Amanda says:

    Hand me the dunce cap, please. I now understand the satire in Dr. Guillaum Smit’s writing. Off course he is not against Christians mixing it up with the New Age. He said on Radio Kansel:

    Ongetwyfeld is dit ‘n winsmoment. Die Bybel self sê vir ons, in Romeine nogal, dat waar die mense nie die wet van Moses het nie, gaan God in hulle harte kyk want hulle skryf hulle eie wet in hulle harte neer en die konteks daar is baie duidelik dat dit gaan oor mense wat nie die openbaring van die Jode gekry het voordat hulle Christene geword het nie, of dan nou selfs doodgegaan het sonder blootstelling aan die Joodse geloof of die Christelike geloof nie. ‘n Mens kry die idee dat die Bybel self die uitspraak lewer dat God met die hele wêreld besig is, ook buite om die Christendom. Daarmee sê ek nie almal gaan hemel toe nie. Daarom sê ek ons moet daai vraag op die tafel sit dat God besig is met alles en met almal en dat ons die draers van die openbaring is, as gelowige Christene, maar spesifiek wil ek dan ook sê, die winsmoment is die feit dat ons die geleentheid het om in gesprek te tree met kultuuruitinge wat ons in staat stel om tot stilstand te kom sodat ons weer op ‘n vars manier kan hoor wat God vir ons wil sê. Jy het na die kontemplatiewe verwys. Die kontemplatiewe lê toevallig in die vroeë kerk . . . en kom uit die kloosterera uit en as ‘n mens daarop sou ingaan dan dink ek nie ‘n mens moet die baba met die badwater uitgooi nie. En ‘n mens moet veral ook bereid wees om, wanneer ‘n mens mense wil beoordeel, in gesprek met hulle te tree en na hulle te luister want om ‘n ding krities te ondersoek beteken nie dat jy net foute uitlig nie maar dat jy ook na die persoon se hart gaan kyk en na sy integriteit gaan kyk.

  26. Amanda says:

    In Dr. Guilaume Smit’s blog post: “When is it permissable to lie in Jesus’ name?” he never answers the question directly.

  27. Discerning the World says:

    Roger, you are nothing but a liar. There is a difference between NOT BEING ALLOWED TO COMMENT more than twice and having all comments deleted between which you were allowed to comment more than 50 times on this blog along with all your friends. Lest we forgot your ‘gang o’ funamergents’ and a possible 200+ comments combined. Or should we just forget your willingness to support that disgusting website “discernamentalist mafia” and poor Chad Holtz who had to take the fall for creating a false blog and using my name and making comments all over the place – pity when you hang with liars the can’t help but lie all the time even to their ‘friends’. They will take sides which ever way the wind blows.

    Everytime you post a comment to try help a ‘pal’ out you seem to catch yourself out and destroy everyone elses attempt to cover themselves. And each time I see a decrease in your IQ by a good 5 points per comment. This of course could be a good or bad thing depending on how high your IQ was to start off with ahah. I know you are a lot smarter than you make yourself out to be. You are not the only one reading this blog. Infact by not telling the truth you insult everyone who reads this blog and can see your comments all over the place.

    But then again the Emergent church teaches nothing but lies and you refuse to search for the truth. It’s like willingly hanging with liars and patting them on the back when you ‘think’ you are winning, you know…kinda like

    The Emerging South African Olympics and Julius Dilemma.

    Also, I think Guilluame is a big boy, he does not need your help covering up his lies- after all he is a Dr. In fact if I was him, which I am not (thank goodness) I would email you and ask you to keep quiet as you are NOT helping him one bit.

  28. Discerning the World says:

    Amanda said,

    >> “By the way, Thomas is a real man.”

    Thank goodness otherwise we would have Julius Dilemma supporting us and that would just be so wrong in so many ways lol.

    To DR-GS:

    Based on your question, asking me if I am Amanda, Thomas, Cecilia etc, or are they me, i.e., we are actually 1 person with multiple usernames. Answer: No.

    But I can ask you now: Guilluame are you Roger by any chance? Or Nic Patton, or Iggy from Discernamentalist Mafia website, or Eugene, or Ryan Peter or Mark or…is it possible you are Stephan Joubert in disguise?

    This is indeed a case for the IEOF – International Emergent Olympics Federation. I hear there are many many tests one can do to substantiate if someone is who they say they are. It’s getting the results that are the real problem. When you do get them the results that is, you can just deny you got them lol. Anyhow…

    Commedy minute: (Brian McLaren just phoned, he asked me to relay this to you. “No, he is not DTW’. Rob Bell and the Dalai Lama say, ‘Ditto’. Desmond Tutu refuses to comment.)

  29. Discerning the World says:

    Thank you C!!


    God protects HIS children ALWAYS – BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS ARE THE BODY OF CHRIST. When times are bad HE is ALWAYS there for BRON AGAIN CHRISTIANS. All GLORY to HIM when we HUMBLE our sinful selves before HIM and REPENT. Everything we have in this life is ONLY because of HIM. No amount of working and studying can make you who you are inside. No amount of smooth words and covering up can cover up the wickedness in your heart. You can hug and pat eachother on the back till the cows come home. You can stand infront of a group and people and cry your heart out and call everyone there a brother or sister and then go home and abuse your wife and children.

    No amount of sloppy outside love and group hugs can hide what you really think and what’s really in your heart – Because these things will come out in the things you say AGAINST Jesus Christ. What you think is what is in your heart. If your heart is wicked your words will be wicked. If your words are wicked it’s because your heart is wicked!

    Without the SACRIFICE that Jesus Christ the Son of God made for us and the Blood HE spilt for US, YOU, WE, ME, ALL OF US, we would have NOTHING but everlasting death. When we believe by faith, believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, that he died on calvary, that he rose again, ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST, believe every word spoken in the Bible as being 100% true and FINAL. You will then and ONLY then RECEIVE the gift of SALVATION!!! That’s it!! Salvation! Nothing more.

    Is this not enough for you?????

    No you want more!!! You want to build your temple on earth!!!! Well build it, build your little temples on earth! For you want to be the king of your castle. You will use the name of Jesus Christ to get yourself a castle and then transcend to Godhood by yourself thereafter.

    But let them build their peace on earth, a man made peace, a man made saviour, a man made false Christ. I will continue to warn no matter what. Jesus says, ‘Seek and you will find’. I can’t make you want to SEEK and LOOK for the truth. But I will proglaim the gospel of slavation and repentance of sin through Jesus Christ and point you in the right direction. Just as someone once pointed me in the right direction – someone who loved Jesus Christ with all their heart. This person spoke to me about Jesus Christ for YEARS and YEARS and most times there were some serious arguments that broke out as I defended my beliefs at the time – but I finally woke up. I realised how lost I was and I had too make the EFFORT to find the WHOLE TRUTH and it can ONLY BE FOUND IN THE BIBLE.

    I have my TREASURE IN Jesus Christ – not on earth. My treasure is SALVATION ONLY. I want nothing else but to humble myself before my Lord and SAVIOUR Jesus Christ, I want nothing but to be a simple servant for him that will continue to warn others of the mass destruction that is close at hand. If only 1 person hears and then goes off to seek the truth and nothing but the truth, then my ‘great comission’ is done.

    If you DON’T CARE to want to know Jesus Christ, and you don’t care to want to love Jesus Christ. If you care more to love yourself, and make a kindgom for yourself on this earth then you will suffer the consequences for placing yourself before or on the same level as Jesus Christ.

    How can you ‘love your neighbour as yourself’ if you don’t love Jesus Christ and adhere to the Word of God 100%. ??????

    If Jesus Christ the Son of God is the source of true Godly love then what love do you speak about?, what is the source of your love? when all you do is TAKE AWAY the Word (Jesus Christ made Flesh) from the Word of God and ADD TOO the Word (Jesus Christ made Flesh). If you can’t even obey the Word of God how can you love your neighbour?? Impossible!

    You are EITHER FOR HIM OR AGAINST HIM. You make your own choices in life. I’ve made mine and that is Jesus Christ the Son of God and no matter WHAT HAPPENS I WILL NEVER back down.

    So, Guilluame – sue me. And then you can take on Nedbank too while you’re at it for ‘standing up for the truth’ (re:- lies in athletics SA scandal) and withdrawing their sponsorship from a bunch of crooks. LOL

  30. Amanda says:

    DTW: “So, Guilluame – sue me.”

    Not so fast. He did not say that. In an earlier post he said that he was not considering going down that road. Now he warned that others might do it. I send him my e-mail address, because of his complaint that we hide our identities. [It is an emergent thing, as you very well know. Remember scary Nic Paton and Roger Saner wanting to know where you live?]

    No, Dr. Guillaum Smit’s charge is:

    The road along which you and your friends are travelling are destroying God’s work and enhancing that of the devil. You are not protecting the Christian faith. On the contrary. You are destroying it.

    His threat is:

    But know this: If you publish anything remotely untrue again, I and others like me will not hesitate to hold you accountable for your half-truths and twisted ramblings. We are part of the one and only body of Christ, and we will not stand on the sidelines any longer watching you actively destroy God’s work with your slanderous yapping.

    He did not specify what steps the ‘body of Christ’ are going to take in order to stop us from destroying the Christian faith. That is left to our imagination. He does indicate in no uncertain terms that he will follow through, though.

    DTW, you never, ever take a threat like that lightly. I would not want something untoward happening to you. Step up your security.

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