William Branham – False Prophet

William Branham  Fire Halo

William Branham

William Branham – False Prophet

I have decided to write this article on William Branham for 2 reasons and that is this: William Branham’s influence on the church today is nothing but a vile attack on the True Body of Christ. This article will also serve as a reference to some articles that I will be writing soon on some supposed ‘men of God’ aka ‘Prophets’ in South Africa – who claim that they have William Branham’s Mantle. Any ‘pastor’ who says that William Branham was truly a man of God or says they have anything from William Branham (mantle, angel, follows his teachings, etc) should be avoided like the plague.

Who was William Branham:

William Branham was born in 6th April 1909 in Kentucky and died on 24 December 1965. His ministry was founded in May 1946. But this legacy lives on in his followers and the hundreds of sermons that were recorded or transcribed. Most people read his sermons more than they do they bible. Most people believe William Branham’s words more than the bible. This is obviously concerning, but what is more concerning is what William Branham preached and the strange signs and wonders that accompanied him.

The young William Branham:

William Branham’s mother was 15 years of age, and his father was 18 years of age. When William Branham was born something rather unusual happened on that day – a few rays of light shone into the room and a huge halo, one foot in diameter appeared above William’s mother and baby. Because of this his mother took him to a Baptist church in the local community. That was the first and the last time he went to church in years. –Carl Dyck, William Branham: The Man and His Message (Saskatoon: Western Tract Mission, 1984), page 3.

It should be noted (and keep this in your mind at all times) that Branham’s parents both believed in fortunetelling (so they were not Christian) and this of course means that William Branham was raised in an occult environment. –Kurt Koch, Between Christ and Satan (Grand Rapids: Kregal Publications, 1962), page 150

Branham’s life was influenced by numerous visions and angelic visitations. He recalled that he heard a voice at the age of seven, “Well, I started up the lane again. And I turned to look at this again. And when it did, a human Voice just as audible as mine is, said, `Don’t you never drink, smoke, or defile your body in any way. There’llbeaworkfor you to do when you get older.’ Why, it liked to scared me to death!” –Brother Branham, taped sermon transcript, p. 24

This would not be the last time Branham heard this voice, later this voice would identify itself as an angel and later he ends up receiving extra-biblical revelation concerning future events.

William’s family and Ministry:

William Branham was influenced by a few obscure people/religions before he fully established his ministry in 1948, one of these was the ‘Jesus Only’ Pentecostals. –Brother Branham, p.39

At this time William Branham was married and had a baby daughter. Many family members and other ministers warned him not to associate with the ‘Jesus Only’ cult for this group did not believe in the Trinity amongst other thing. Branham must have broken away from then for later when his Wife and baby daughter died in 1937 from Tubercular Meningitis he attributed their deaths to the fact that it was because he had not continued in fellowship with the Pentecostals and had missed God’s will. –Brother Branham, p.47

Never the less, the ‘Jesus Only’ cult was a great influence on Branham as he adopted many of their heretical doctrines into his own.

Another influential person in Branham’s ‘doctrine to be’ was Franklin Hall who wrote on the ‘Atomic Power with God through Fasting and Prayer’. Hall had a great influence on almost all the healing revival preachers of that time, of which Branham was his best disciple, in so much that Branham’s followers believed him to be the apostle of the final Church age.

In 1946 while Branham was baptising followers in the Ohio river he heard a small voice say ‘Look up!” Looking up he saw it descending toward him – it looked like a blazing Star, a Pillar of Fire. The Supernatural Pillar of Fire hovered just above his head and that voice he had been hearing since he was little spoke out of the Pillar of Fire saying, “As John the Baptist was sent to forerun the First Coming of the Lord Jesus Christ, so you are sent to forerun His Second Coming.” –Brother Branham, p.71

That was that, Branham called this his ‘charge’ – that he was called by God and soon many believed him to be Elijah. In fact when Branham passed away in 1965 due to a head injury from a car accident many of his followers (and still today, believe it or not) truly believe he came in the spirit of Elijah, some believed him to be born of a virgin, some believed him to be God and most expected him to actually rise from the dead in three days. –All Things Are Possible, p.164

Not long after Branham was told by the Pillar of Fire that he was the forerunner for the Second Coming of Christ he was visited by the voice manifested in the form of an angel. This angel told him that he had been given two gifts; the gift of healing and the gift of words of knowledge / restore biblical truth. As time went by Branham also came to believe that this angel was the source of all his visions and extra-biblical revelations as well. But of course Branham was very discerning (as he claims it was also one of his gifts) and he asked the angel why he should believe the angel to be from God and the angel told him that the people in Jesus’ day called Jesus a devil, so he (Branham) should not worry about others in his family or ministry saying the same thing about the message/angel. The angel mentioned that Branham had been told by fortunetellers in impromptu meetings that he had a special gift from God and was born under a sign. The angel assured Branham that demons had confirmed that Jesus was the Christ and he should not be concerned by testimony of fortunetellers. –Brother Branham, pp. 74, 75, 79

Well I suppose that settles it then – the angel must be from God, phewww and all this time I thought otherwise. You see in 1 John it explains very clearly what Branham was supposed to ask the angel, ‘”has Jesus Christ come in the Flesh”. I guarantee this angel would have come up with every excuse in the book to say otherwise. But then, what’s the bible anyway? eh? Just useless info…not to be adhered to.

So Branham decided to test out his new ‘powers’ and found himself confronted with a women who had cancer. Just as a matter of interest the angel told Branham about this woman in a vision. So he prayed for her and she was ‘healed’. He shot to Superstardom overnight and from then on claimed his angel was with him day and night.

Two things here; Who said she had cancer? Was there any medical proof of this and secondly who could prove she was healed? Or did Branham proclaim she was healed and everyone just accepted it? So either this was one big lie or worse we have a demon (posing as an angel of light) telling Branham about a women who has cancer, i.e., this woman’s cancer was demonically inflicted. Talk about being set up, William Branham that is, and again so much for his discernment. So Branham prays for her and she is ‘healed’. What actually happened was the demonic affliction was lifted and who knows what else this woman received in its place.

From then on William Branham’s ministry was built on supernatural manifestations and was empowered by a spirit being / angel. The angel accompanied him throughout his lifetime and even directed him in every aspect of his personal life. It was the angel Branham said gave him his power – not the Holy Spirit. In fact Branham knew that if he didn’t do what the Voice told him to do he would suffer greatly.

But if that has not convinced you even slightly that there was something horribly wrong with Brenham, lets go look at his teachings and see just how much they contradict the Word of God.

He believed he was the Last Days Prophet:

This I find rather funny because since starting my blog I have come across at least 20 others who think they are too. Who’s right? Fortunately, non of them, Branham included. Anyhow let’s stick to the story shall we – so Branham said, “Now, I’m just your brother, by the grace of God. But when the Angel of the Lord moves down, it becomes then a Voice of God to you…But I am God’s Voice to you… Now, see, I can say nothing in myself. But what He shows me.” –Footprints On The Sands Of Time, p. 214

His followers believed him to be the spirit of Elijah based on Malachi 4 and the seventh angel in Revelations 10.

Unfortunately for him and his followers, William Branham has to under no uncertain terms be labelled a False Prophet for a lot of things he prophesied did not come to pass for example: He prophesied that Jesus would return in 1977 along with the destruction of America . Branham said, “Jesus did not say no man could know the year, month or week in which his coming would be completed. I sincerely believe and maintain as a private student of the Word along with divine inspiration that 1977 ought to terminate the world systems and usher in the millennium.” –7 Church Ages, p. 322.

As we can see, Jesus Christ has not come back, America is still standing and it’s the year 2008. So you the reader have 2 choices here; 1) William Branham received this information from a lying demonic source aka his angel who’s father is Satan or, 2) God lied.

The bible says, in Deuteronomy 18 v 20-22

“20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die. 21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken? 22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.”

Branham preached the ‘Serpent Seed’ teaching:

The Serpent Seed teaching is a belief that Cain was produced through sexual intercourse between Eve and the serpent in the garden. The curse of the Serpent’s Seed he believed is the cause of all mankind’s problems and women are to blame and it is evident in their temptation of men. –William M. Branham, My Life Story, p. 19.

Branham also believe that the Serpent Seed was the missing link between man and monkey.

Hitler also believed in the Serpent Seed teaching and this was the main reason why Jews needed to be eliminated, for the Jewish nation was of Satan. Now if Hitler believed in this and Branham believed in this, and Hitler was of Satan and Branham is of God then….we have a HUGE problem here.

It is also noted that Branham despised women and on one occasion stated, “But I remember when my father’s still up there running, I had to be out there with water and stuff, see young ladies that wasn’t over seventeen, eighteen years, up there with a man my age now, drunk. And they’d have to sober them up and give them black coffee, to get them home to cook their husband’s supper. Oh, something like that, I said, ‘I…This was my remarked [sic] then, THEY’RE NOT WORTH A GOOD CLEAN BULLET TO KILL THEM WITH IT.’ That’s right. And I hated women. That’s right. And I just have to watch every move now, to keep from still thinking the same thing.” –M. Branham, ‘My Life Story’ (Spoken Word Publications, undated), p.27.

So now we can see why he was so adamant to preach this Serpent Seed teaching for he had an immense animosity towards women. This would also explain why he preached a rigid ‘moral code’ for women with regards to dressing, hair etc, etc. Branham also had a ‘revelation’ that allowed for divorce. –All Things Are Possible, p.162.

The bible says in Genesis 4 v 11;

1 “And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.” …. not from the Serpent/Satan.

Branham believed the Zodiac and the Egyptian Pyramids are EQUAL to scripture:

So as far as Branham is concerned the Zodiac and Egyptian pyramids are equal to Scripture in the revelation of God’s Word. This might I add is also one of Franklin Halls strange beliefs that was passed onto Branham. –‘Adoption’, pp.31,104.

Now we know that the Zodiac and the Pyramids play a huge part in the occult. So how on earth can the occult be equal to Scripture? Witchcraft, Astrology and New Age all use the pyramids and the zodiac for divination i.e., predicting the future. The pyramids are an essential holiday spot for occultists, witches, magicians, necromancers and many a demon/spirit. The narrow passages through-out the pyramids allowed for occult soul travel were mummified Kings and other notable people were buried with gold, food and other worldly possessions in the belief that their soul would need these things in the after-life. Pyramids also have an occult alignment with the stars i.e., the Zodiac.

Let’s see what the bible says about this: Deuteronomy 18 v 9-12

“9 When thou art come into the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations. 10 There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch. 11 Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. 12 For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.”

William Branham a Freemason

After Branham’s death a tombstone in the shape of a pyramid was placed on his grave.  On top of the tombstone is what appears to be an eagle, but it is in fact a Pheonix.

 Branham Grave - Freemason

Branham believed that ALL denominations were the Mark of the Beast:

Except for his ‘denomination’ of course which was pure. Hence if you follow anyone eles teachings and not his you are doomed. Branham believed that some humans are descended from the serpent’s seed and are destined for hell, which is not eternal, however. The seed of God, i.e., those who receive Branham’s teaching, are predestined to become the Bride of Christ. There are still others who possess free will and who may be saved out of the denominational churches, but they must suffer through the Great Tribulation. He considered denominationalism a mark of the Beast (Rev. 13:17). –Dictionary of Pentecostal and Charismatic Movements, pp. 95,96.

Branham believed he was commissioned by God to OPEN the SEVEN SEALS in Revelations:

Branham said, “I saw seven angels in the form of a pyramid that swept down, picked me up and was brought east to open the seven seals of God” –William Branham, Standing In the Gap – 63-0623.1M.

Revelations 5 v 1-10 says;

“1 Then I saw in the right hand of him who sat on the throne a scroll with writing on both sides and sealed with seven seals. 2 And I saw a mighty angel proclaiming in a loud voice, “Who is worthy to break the seals and open the scroll?” 3 But no one in heaven or on earth or under the earth could open the scroll or even look inside it. 4 I wept and wept because no one was found who was worthy to open the scroll or look inside. 5 Then one of the elders said to me, “Do not weep! See, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has triumphed. He is able to open the scroll and its seven seals.”

So, is William Branham saying he is the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David – Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of the One and Only Living God? It must be, because William Branham said it, and if William Branham said that God commissioned him to open the book and loose the seals then who are we to argue, I mean really, the bible must be wrong, completely wrong!

Branham believes he was the ONLY Prophet:

Branham said, “There never was in the age, any two major prophets on the earth at one time. There were many minor prophets, but there were one major prophet. And Elijah was the prophet until Elisha came. Then when Elijah was taking off, a portion, double portion, of Elijah’s Spirit, Elijah’s Spirit came upon Elisha.” —Our Hope is in God, 1951 (tape #51-0929)

Now, God always uses a–a prophet, a man. If you use a bunch of men, you get different ideas (See?); each man, two men. Never did He have two major prophets on the earth at one time. He takes one, so the other one can take its place for another day, another message. He never has two; He has one at a time.” —The Evening Messenger, 1963 (tape #63-0116)

“God always deals with one individual. Two men’s got two ideas. There never was two major prophets on the earth prophesying the same time. Look back and see if there was. No, sir. Too much scrupled up. He’s got to get one man completely surrendered and use that person. He searches for that person, but there will be one sometime, somebody who’ll listen to Him word by word.” –The Fourth Seal, Revelation of the Seven Seals, 1963 (tape #63-0321)

Many historical prophets did indeed prophesy at the same time as others. Several minor prophets did as well (e.g., Hosea & Micah; Haggai & Zechariah. Ezra 5:1,2 actually says, “Now Haggai the prophet and Zechariah the prophet, a descendant of Iddo, prophesied to the Jews in Judah and Jerusalem in the name of the God of Israel, who was over them. Then Zerubbabel son of Shealtiel and Jeshua son of Jozadakset to work to rebuild the house of God in Jerusalem. And the prophets of God were with them, helping them.” See also, Numbers 11:25-29). In fact, some Minor prophets prophesied at the same time as Major prophets (e.g., Hosea & Micah were contemporary with Isaiah; Habakkuk was contemporary with Jeremiah). But Mr. Branham’s most obvious error was in saying that God never sent two Major prophets at the same time. Of the four Major prophets, Daniel, Jeremiah and Ezekiel were all contemporaries during the years 595-587 BC. –http://people.delphiforums.com/johnk63/1prophet.htm

The difference between Branham and the TRUE prophets of the bible were that the TRUE prophets of the bible were not confused, never presented two different ideas, never got their message ‘scrupled up’ and most importantly their words were God’s words hence they appear in the Word of God. Unlike Branham who preaches a DIFFERENT gospel.

Branham taught that God is NOT omnipresent:

Branham said, “Now, you cannot be omnipresent without being omniscient. God’s not even omnipresent; God’s omniscient. Omniscient which means – makes Him omnipresent (He knows all things). But in order to be a being He has to be in one being.” –The Masterpiece, 1964 (tape #64-0705)

“He’s [God]–He’s infinite, and He’s–He’s omnipresent, omniscient, therefore He knows all things. He can’t be present everywhere. By being omniscient, knowing all things, then He can be present everywhere.” –The Harvest Time, 1964 (tape #64-1212)

So because Branham believes that God is a ‘being’ and not ‘spirit’ he can’t be in more than one place at a time. He does however believe that God knows ‘all things’ hence He is omniscient, so it seems like God is everywhere, but He is not.

The bible says: Jeremiah 23:23-24

“Am I a God at hand, saith the Lord, and not a God afar off? Can any hide himself in secret places that I shall not see him? Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith the Lord.”

Branham DENIED the Deity of Jesus Christ:

Branham said; “The man, the body was not Deity, but Deity was in the body.” –God’s Gifts Always Find Their Places, December 22, 1963 (tape #63-1222)

“Jesus was not God, but He was God. He was a Man, yet He was God. He could cry, and yet He could raise the dead. He could cry for a man being dead and raise him back up again. He was Jehovah-jireh, Jehovah-rapha, Jehovah Manasses; He was Jehovah, all completely. He was Jehovah, and yet He was a Man.” –Questions and Answers #3, August 30, 1964 (tape #64-0830M)

“He was–He was Jesus when He was born. But when the Holy Ghost came upon Him after His baptism, He was anointed with God. God was in Him, ’cause He come to fulfill the Word.” –The Messiah, January 17, 1961 (tape #61-0117)

“And this little Boy, twelve-year-old Child, no wisdom at all, why, but just a twelve-year-old Boy… The Father didn’t dwell in Him at that time, because He come on the day when He baptized Him; he saw the Spirit of God coming down (See?), and went in Him.” –Paradox, February 6, 1964 (tape #64-0206B

“The Spirit left Jesus in Gethsemane and He became just a man– When God looked down upon the body… (The Spirit left Him in the Garden of Gethsemane; He had to die a man.)” –It Is the Rising of the Sun, April 18, 1965 (tape #65-0418M

Unbelievable! William Branham DENIES Jesus Christ. Anyone who says that William Branham is a man of God is deluded, deceived and follows the teachings on an anti-Christ.

The bible says, John 1 v 1-14 – The Deity of Jesus Christ:

“1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being. 4 In Him was life, and the life was the Light of men. 5 The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.”

William Branham’s unsolved mysteries:

The Seventh Seal:

Branham believed that his interpretation of the 7 seals (Revelation, chapters 5-8) was essential in preparing his followers for Christ’s soon return. He spent the week of March 18 thru the 23, 1963, “revealing” the meaning of the first 6 seals from Revelation 6. However, on the evening he was to reveal the 7th seal, he did not explain its meaning. It remains a mystery to his followers to this day.

The Seven Thunders (Revelation 10:3,4):

Likewise, Branham spoke of the 7 Thunders, but never revealed what the voices spoke.

The Third Pull:

Although not a biblical mystery, Branham created a new mystery, speaking of a future phase of his ministry which he called the Third Pull. Not only did he fail to say what this phase of his ministry would accomplish, but he never fulfilled it before his death.  –http://people.delphiforums.com/johnk63/teachings.htm#unrevealed

William Branham’s terrible inconsistencies about a man who tried to prove him to be false:

William Branham sometimes warned his listeners against testing the authenticity of his gifts. Which is odd because the bible tells us to test the spirits. Never the less Branham indeed had an active imagination and most definitely liked to instill the fear of God into his follows too NOT test him. Branham would frequently tell his congregation about a man who tried to prove him to be false by writing fictitious illnesses on his prayer card, and then would stand in the prayer line expecting Branham to correctly identify his illnesses as mentioned on the prayer card. Every time Branham told this story, the outcome of what happened to his man would change:

  1. The man received the diseases that he wrote on his card and was still suffering from them (1953).
  2. The man had died from his diseases (1954).
  3. The man was bedfast “to this day” (1956).
  4. The man ran screaming from the auditorium when Mr. Branham publicly exposed his plan (1956).
  5. The man died a year after the incident (January 1957).
  6. The man was still in “serious condition” (June 1957)
  7. The man died 6 months after the incident from cancer (1958).
  8. The man was carried from the auditorium paralyzed and is still paralyzed (1958–note that in 1956 Mr. Branham said he ran screaming from the building).
  9. The man died on the platform sixty seconds after Mr. Branham exposed him (1961).
  10. The man died six weeks after the meeting (1962).

— http://people.delphiforums.com/johnk63/teachings.htm#unrevealed

So much for being man of God. This is called manipulation people, manipulation and lies belong in the same basket of rotten apples.

William Branham’s vision and the Cloud:

Once again it would seem that William Branham has a very over active imagination, or he just lied as went along to ‘prove’ himself to be a man of God. I have received a few emails over the last couple of months from people sending me images of this famous cloud as proof that Branham is a prophet. So I went and did some research and found out that this cloud appeared over Flagstaff which was 352 km / 219 miles from where Branham was having his vision on a mountain in Tucson. Now from what I have read it says this cloud was huge and could be seen from very very far away. However…

Branham says he was standing below it: “And now, the “Life” Magazine picked it up. And I have the–the article here this morning in the “Life” Magazine there, of the show… Now, here it is, the same time I was there. See the pyramid or the Cloud? I was standing just below this.” —William Branham, “Standing in the Gap,” TSW (sermon preached 6-23-63), 6:7, pp. 20-21

Hmmmm…. How could he be 219 miles from this cloud but yet at the same time be standing just below it…now that is a miracle!

Also Branham’s account or ‘count’ of how many angels he saw appear changed from 5 to 7 over a period of time. It changed from 5 to 7 angels so he could say these angels represented the ‘The Revelation of the Seven Seals’.

5 angels in vision on the mountain:   “And I, still in my … the two consciences together, I knew I was standing here, and I knew I was somewhere else. And I thought, “Now, this is a vision, and I must learn what this means.” And no more than the second group of birds came by, I looked to the west; and it looked like in the form of a pyramid—like two on each side with one in the top, came five of the mightiest angels I ever seen in my life. Such a terrific speed I never seen…. Their heads back and their pointed wings just sailing quickly.” –William Branham, “Reproach for the Word,” The Spoken Word (TSW), Spoken Word Publications (Jeffersonville, IN, sermon preached 12-23-62), 2:16, pp. 4-7

7 angels in the vision on the mountain:   “In December 1962 God gave William Branham a vision of an angelic visitation which he foretold in a message “Sirs is this the Time?” On February 28, 1963, the vision and prophecy was fulfilled when a constellation of seven angels, formed as the head of Christ, met him with a commission to speak the opening of the Seven Seals of Revelation. Life Magazine (May 17th 1963) carried the photograph (left figure) of this supernatural event, describing it as a “Mystery Cloud over Arizona.” –http://www.bibleway.org/wmb

I seem to be hmmmm’ing a lot while writing this article. It’s amazing, people will believe all sorts of lies and even when presented with the truth continue to hold fast to these lies for dear life. What for? Do you like to be lied too? Do you like to be deceived? Do you like to be made a fool of by non other than William Branham? But then I suppose that’s what deception does, it blinds one to the truth.

Conclusion:  1)  This cloud has absolutely nothing to do with William Branham’s vision,   2)  Satan can perform wonderous signs to capture the imagination of people who pretty much believe anything, except the Word of God.

The famous CloudWilliamBranhamCloud1 If you turn the cloud sideways you can apparently see an image of Jesus.WilliamBranhamCloud2

*  I am sure if one is on some hallucinatory drug you will be able to see a face of some kind.

William Brenham denies the Trinity:

Like the ‘Jesus-Only’ Pentecostals, Branham denied the Trinity doctrine teaching a form of Modalism. Instead of three Persons in the Godhead, Branham taught that there was only one Person (Jesus) going under different titles or modes at various times in history. Branham’s teaching is a variation of a second century heresy taught by Sabellius know as Modalistic Monarchianism or Patripassianism. –Evangelical Dictionary of Theology, pp. 727-28) and www.watchman.org/prOfile/branpro.htm.

Monarchianism: View found primarily in the third century that denied the Trinity, arguing that because God’s nature is one He cannot exist eternally in three Persons. The two most popular forms of monarchianism were dynamic monarchianism and modalism. –www.watchman.org/cat95.htm#Monarchianismm

The Trinity doctrine cannot be fully comprehended by finite man. However, any other view of the Godhead will not satisfy God’s self revelation in Scripture. Modalism teaches that there is only one Person in the Godhead functioning through relational “modes.” When He is in the Father mode, the Son and Spirit modes are not functional. In Matthew 3:13-17, however, the Son is baptized, the Spirit descends and the Father speaks. Also, “in the name of” (Matthew 28:19) or in the authority of does not limit the nature of God’s unity to one Person but connotes equality of essence within the Godhead (2 Corinthians 13:14).  –www.watchman.org/prOfile/branpro.htm

William Branham view on baptism:

Branham claimed that proper baptism was needed to avoid the “Mark of the Beast” of denominational churches and escape the danger of missing the rapture and entering the Tribulation. Proper baptism must be in the name of Jesus only. Baptism with the Trinitarian formula of Matthew 28:18 (“in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost”) is unacceptable to God.

If an incorrect formula was spoken during baptism, Branham felt the convert would go into darkness. “But a tritheist, triune baptism was never recognized in the Church, the New Testament… Now you know what to do, that’s right; and if you refuse to walk in Light when Light’s brought forth, you turn to darkness. Right! Amen!” –Conduct, Order, Doctrine Q and A, pp. 178, 181, 182, 184, 190).

Baptism in the name of Jesus only may have been the early practice in the Jerusalem church. However, all manuscripts of Matthew 28:19 have the Trinitarian formula as being commissioned by Jesus. One document, dating from A.D. 60, the Didache, prescribes the Matthew formula (Father, Son and Holy Ghost) for baptism within the church. Regardless of the formula, baptism is not a requirement for being raptured or avoiding the Tribulation. Full salvation is by grace though faith and not of works such as baptism (Ephesians 2:8-9).  –www.watchman.org/prOfile/branpro.htm

Something interesting William Branham once said:

“167 I was talking on the Name of Jesus Christ baptism. That’s right, a revelation of that come. That’s the Truth. But what did a bunch of people do? Gathered it right out here and put a denomination out of it, made another tower of Babel, same thing, throw edit right into it. Certainly. Luther done the same thing. Wesley done the same thing; John Smith done the same thing, Alexander Campbell done the same thing. Pentecost done the same thing. God deals with individuals keeping His Word. God’s only plan to bring believers to Himself in a true oneness is receiving the Holy Ghost. Then here’s how…You say, “Well, Brother Branham, I spoke in tongues. I shouted. I did this.” If you still got that kind of a spirit and deny the Word of God, you haven’t got the Word of God in you; you haven’t got the Spirit. If you’ll set and hear the Truth preached, and look It up in the Bible, and see It’s the Truth, and then refuse to do it, that’s not the Spirit of God. I don’t care how much you spoke in tongues, how much you shouted, how much churches you belonged to, or how many times you was baptized, or anything else. The Word is truth. That’s what vindicates the truth. If you got all these other truths and then with the Word (Amen.), then you know you’re coming home.” –Oneness (62-0211)

So if we reversed this and said, “Well, William Branham, you spoke in tongues, you shouted, you did this and that, and you healed, and you prophesied, and you had visions, and you saw angels, and you had revelations and you spoke words that God supposedly told you to speak. Then surely if you’ve got that kind of a spirit but at the SAME TIME deny the Word of God / deny Jesus Christ, then you William Branham haven’t got the Word of God in you; you haven’t got the Spirit.


William Branham - A man and his Angel - by Mike Oppenheimer

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Bloodwashed

Did I forget to say BEWARE!

AriseMyLove

Branham and Bill Hamon need to be exposed, unveiled shown up for the liars of Christ they are.

Branham, like all prophets of Baal, sees women through hatefilled eyes. He was an illiterate misogynist. He did not know the Word well either; I remain astonished at his poor understanding of the Bible and his tendency to “add” words and phrases that were not in the Scripture text.

This is due to the fact that Branham was demonized by that weird “angel” he spoke to when he asked people to shut their eyes so he could “pray” for them.

He certainly is the forefather of other brute and women haters like Todd Bentley and Bob Jones and Paul Cain.

Women in the charismatic church need to take note that Jesus was no misogynist; He actually elevated the position of women in the culture.

I’ve noticed that Branham’s NAR brand of female hatred breeds the whorishness and simony of Cindy Jacobs and other women in the movement.

This alone shows the real spirit behind Branhamism.

And thanks DTW, I haven’t been here for months and I think this is the first time I’ve posted. I really want to help show up WMBranham for the liar he was. I remain astonished at what a boring ignoramus he was.

Discerning The World

Arise

Thank you for coming to post! My original blog went missing in action back in Sep 08 but I am now up and running again since the begining of May 09. Got lots of posts from my old blog I still need to re-post, but as you things are changing so fast on the world ‘sphere’ (don’t wanna sound to NAR ‘7 mountains’ here lol) that I am battling to keep up hence, re-posting my old posts has kinda been put on hold…gosh…time, time, time…hardly any time left.

Keep standing for the truth!

AriseMyLove

Dear truebride:

You wrote “…as supposedly the spirit of elijah was to come before the the great and dreadful day of the lord and RESTORE the pentecostal faith that was once experienced in the days of peter…”

Interesting, because the Lord is promising that He will “restore” that which was stolen in Joel 2:25 by the “Great Army” of Delusion earlier in the chapter of Joel.

There is no such thing as a “restoration” of the Prophetic or Apostolic POSITIONS of Peter or Paul or the OT Prophets to the NT church.

The very serious thing is how this demon of “restoration” went after A A Allen in 1965, to preach the Latter Rain Branhamite demonic Mormonism (mormons also believe in this false “restoration” of the church and the Bible itself) in the guise of a prophet name Paul Cunningham to A A Allen.

Within four years of this demon of ‘restoration” telling Cunningham to go after A A Allen, Allen was back on booze, divorced his wife and died.

This is the same lying demon who spoke to Joseph Smith and William Branham and Bill Hamon.

The only thing to be restored is not the gifts of Pentecost. They were never lost. What is to be restored is the lack of faith and abundant life that the AntiChrist Deluded army of Joel 2 will steal from the true saints.

truebride99

o => DTW
o => arise
o => albert

i supposedly believe i was clear on my statement earlier

read and compare ; i have not added anything on the comment i previously mentioned on MORONI “supernatural entity””DEMON POSSESSED” as you said

i said MORONI was a false prophet now watch what i wrote earlier on the thread i changed nothing on what i said ” FALSE PROPHET”

i will speak on biblical terms ” Jesus in Matthew 7 said King james version (KJV) beware of “false prophets” other

versions standard bible “beware of false teachers”
in other words stay on the look out for they shall assuredly come and Jesus continued and said ” who come in sheeps clothing but inwardly are ravening wolves”

in matt still he says “NT Gospels: Matthew 24:24 For there will arise false christs”

now let us make our starting point on this sayings of Jesus

you and i my beloved brethren wont deny that jesus was prophet-messiah and he was the Christ; Moses prophesied of him ” Deuteronomy 18:15 (King James Version)

“15:The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken;”

Moses was speaking to Isreal at that time that one time in the land of Isreal a Prophet shall come (capital P) Jesus was this Prophet and Messiah

but contrary to his prophetic office ” he plainly said “beware of false prophets” and ” there shall arise among you false christs

if we stop and breathe just pause for a moment and reflect on this truth , we will get the essence of meanings of the words of Jesus

1. there are true prophets and false prophets
2. there are true geniune christs and false christs

in the above point

“Christ is the English term for the Greek ??????? (Khristós) meaning “the anointed”,[1] which as a translation of the Hebrew ???????? (Mašía?,), carries much of its original Jewish meaning of “Messiah”—”one [who is] anointed” or appointed by God with a unique and special purpose (mission) on Earth.[2]” (From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

Jesus was the christ but picture matthew 24:24 Him being the Christ new there shall arise false christs at the end

annointed ones who are false in their doctrines

my dear brethren specifically o=>DTW who claims to be a prophet what inspiration do you have on this scripture that i give to you “Rev 19:10” please feel free and reply to me brethren with inspirations not your emotions

Q1.What is the testimony of Jesus?
A1………………………….

i dont deny that christ is come and is in the flesh

o=>DTW “paul tells everyone to be ambitious and prophecy” interesting o=>DTW because the same Pauls says that he is skilled and wise masterbuilder

1 Corinthians 3:10, Paul says,
“10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.

11.For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.”

now brethren what we find out is that we dont ourselves start from the foundation we build there upon from thence a foundation is set already & we build there upon

that foundation is Jesus Christ;

paul says “But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon”

Q2.How will God judge the world my dear prophet DTW?
A2………………………………………….

John 5:22 (King James Version)

5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son

Q3. Who is His Son or The Son
A3…………………………….

DTW right Jesus Christ is the Son of God “john 1:14” the WORD became flesh and dwelt among us (Jesus Christ)

Now you remember my statement How do you test spirits true the scripture you said “1 John 4”

remember jesus said there shall arise false prophets and christs annointed by the Holy Spirit and they shall shew great signs and wonders and to decieve the elect if it were possible “FALSE”

see my brethren not every one can speak in tounges though believers in the faith

the same paul that you uphold in saying “Wherefore,brethren,covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tounges” is saying covet the whole of “1 corinthians 12”

this is true also

there are 9 spiritul gifts disributed to the body of christ

each member has his own special gift therefore to add more light to this statement of truth this scripture is true according to paul “1 Corinthians 14:23 (King James Version)

23.If therefore the whole church be come together into one place, and all speak with tongues, and there come in those that are unlearned, or unbelievers, will they not say that ye are mad?”

24.But if all prophesy, and there come in one that believeth not, or one unlearned, he is convinced of all, he is judged of all

my brethren i 100% an totally believe in spiritual and biblical prophesy

DTW a prophet is one who completely has the word of God you and arise deny and say there are no more prophets like the ones in the O.T Paul tells EVERYONE to “be ambitious to prophesy”

you can positively identify with this statement you earlier made arise

“DTW is a prophet and so am I. There is no such thing as an elite old testament in the modern age. Paul tells EVERYONE to “be ambitious to prophesy”

interesting pauls say to us to be ambitious and prophesy then
Q. was he not also speaking expressedely to that generation or unto the churches during his time and to us both????

Great question one should ponder about

paul was the messenger of the new testament ;right then he was not of the old testament because Jesus was born came died and ascended to glory then Paul appeared on the scene

Agabus was a “prophet from Jerusalem” (Acts 11:27-28) in the early New Testament era not Old testament. He is mentioned twice in the Scriptures in book of acts on account of this prophecies

1.Agabus A Christian prophet who went from Jerusalem to Antioch at the time that Paul was in the town. He predicted that a famine would take place

2. Agabus met Paul at Caesarea and prophesied that troubles awaited Paul upon his return to Jerusalem, and it happened just as Agabus said that it would

=>DTW you are supposedly a prophet your fellow sincere brethren in your faith ,Arise, so calls you and does’t call himself that Uh-Hhmm!!!!!!!!!!????????????? how does arise discern given he is not having the prophetic title.
br.arise is a fundamentalist to say the least about him
from which faith do you say there are no more prophets

the bible is of no private interpretation arise and lean not unto thy understanding br. arise

=> DTW Your yet to give me a scriptural timeline where prophets ceased to exist in history anywhere:

don’t quote christian books from proffesors but the scripture

Do your Homework

Dear sincere brethren in your faith remember even devils testified Jesus Christ to be the Son of God an to know God Acts 19:15 (King James Version)

15.And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye?

matt 8:29

29.And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?

again my brethren feel most welcomed to reply revently upon the facts that we’ve seen today

what do you say abou them then you can deeply see

dont have pre-concieved ideas about the Word of God but do this just meditate and study

True Believer

You are blinded and you must pray to God to open your eyes.
A friend once asked me something, he started by saying:

The Bible speaks of 1 true living church of GOD but in this world there are over 146 000 different denominations in this World so if your bible speaks of 1 true church, who is then right because everyone of them have a common belief then stray off and differ at some point, they dont all believe the same word 100%

That was his words to me and because I am a true beleiver I could answer him.

I believe that Br Branham was a prophet of GOD and he never ever referred to himself as GOD or even as a Prophet but because you are consumed with your doctrines and theology you cant see and dont believe that GOD speaks through man, you think because you study the bible Gods speaks through you. I believe you are trying to be sincere in what you are doing but you are sinerely wrong in what you are saying. Your first mistake was as you claim to be a man of God was that you judged and condemned an annointed man. I believe that you should not judge any man who is proclaiming the word of God. When Br Branham preached in his sermons and words came out that said he was a prophet then it was God who was speaking through him. William Branham always said go back to the bible and never allowed anyone to say what he said. Its so strange you seem tp forget that Jesus was called a false Prophet by his own people, it was the minority that accepted him and in every age where a new church had rissen it was the minority.

And in this day it will still be the minority, and I can say this that I might not be in the end time message now but I am a true and firm believer of his word. Yes William Branham was a Man but a Man of God, Yes He made mistakes like all of us did and do.

Lets stand in the Good Faith and guide each other, what has happened to being a believer, you claim to be a son of God but you condemn, like cain did to abel. I may be a sinner but if claims are made like this on blogs like this where is God shining through, God teaches us to be reverent and guide and help each other on the right path. although william branham never ever codemned another man even though he never agreed with that mans theology.

So inspite of what you believe that already makes him a better man than you can ever be. He had love for his fellow brethren.

You are the one that is decieved and deluded and I pray that God will show you the error of your ways.

Just like the pharisees who was educated they did not see the coming of the Christ
you did not see how God used a man to proclaim his true word and reveal all the truth.
Like all the denominations that are in this world they all have a similiar belief then stray from the truth so you tell me which church is the true living church of GOD and I know you will tell me its yours well I dont belong to a church and I never joined a church.

Whatever my fate might be for writing this I accept, if its in GOD’s will for me to go to hell or heaven I will still love him the same because he is my creator and he can do to me as he pleases i will accept my fate. I may not be at a church or going to a fellowship but I will never reject that Man of God called William Branham because he was a true man of God, I will never spea a word against him because everything he said was and is from GOD. It was predestinated to be said just like it was predestinated for you to post this blog and defile a prophet.

The very scripture that you have used in this blog to condemn the prophet, you have actually used that scripture to condemn yourself.

truebride99

Dear Arise my love you cannot deny the word (bible)vindication of a servent of God “Heaven and earth shall pass away but my word shall never pass away

my dear brethen stop living in a fantasy world we are at the end. your yet to give me a sripture in the N.T and the Old T. where the apostolic age came to an end

ephesians 11 “God is restoring office of evangelists prophets pastors teachers

remember peter sermon “repent and be baptised in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sin; and you shall recieve the gift of the Holy ghost for the promise is unto you and you children that are far off even as many as the Lord God shall call”

Brother arise my love you cant deny the fact that the Lord God is still calling christians now to the true unadultarated Gospel Of Jesus Christ and so long as He is Calling the Apostolic age never ceased

about the army of delusion “Great cankerworm caterpillar” of false teaching denying the word taking and making of non effect the word of God by creeds dogmas and traditions and commandments of God

please pray to God that he give you spiritual eyes to see that you are denying the word.

ACCEPT it eternal life; DENY it perish

Discerning The World

True Believer

>> The very scripture that you have used in this blog to condemn the prophet, you have actually used that scripture to condemn yourself.

Whatever dude or dudette…if you want to carry on thinking William Branham is Jesus Christ then go ahead…honestly. This website is actually for Christians who who want to learn the truth and get OUT of deception. If you insist on staying in deception, then that’s you choice.

albert sheffey

k people here is what i got from the whole thing as i was researching this man the holy spirit spoke to me and said albert u must be able to distingues between light and darkness, between the powers of the devil and the powers of God. the devil is very powerful people and very smart and very cunning he wants to decieve as many people as he can and doesn’t care how he does it along as he does. You must be able to tell when a person is from God or the devil. satan talks to people and so does God and the only to do this is 1 searching the scripturs and 2 pray for wisdom knowlege and understand for as the scriture says there will rise false prophets and techears that if it were possible they would decieve the very elect mathew 24:24 Im not saying that anyones wrong or right but all im doing is begging you to please pray and ask God to search your heart create within me a clean heart o God and renew within me a right spirit psalms 51: 10. note who is saying this David chosen by God anointed and proven to be a man after Gods own heart but yet what happened to him he was decieved. Decieved by who The devil that old serpent wich has devieced the whole world. If David a man after the Gods own heart and one of the bibles greates champions was decieved the who are you that ye should be ammuned from Satans deciets. Lets look how he was decieved by taking of the forbidden fruit in second samual 12:1 Samuel told david a story of how a rich man stole something from a poor man1 And the LORD sent Nathan unto David. Ps. 51.1–0.1 And he came unto him, and said unto him, There were two men in one city; the one rich, and the other poor.

2 The rich man had exceeding many flocks and herds:

3 but the poor man had nothing, save one little ewe lamb, which he had bought and nourished up: and it grew up together with him, and with his children; it did eat of his own meat, and drank of his own cup, and lay in his bosom, and was unto him as a daughter.

4 And there came a traveler unto the rich man, and he spared to take of his own flock and of his own herd, to dress for the wayfaring man that was come unto him; but took the poor man’s lamb, and dressed it for the man that was come to him.

5 And David’s anger was greatly kindled against the man; and he said to Nathan, As the LORD liveth, the man that hath done this thing shall surely die:

6 and he shall restore the lamb fourfold, because he did this thing, and because he had no pity.

7 ¶ And Nathan said to David, Thou art the man. Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, I anointed thee king over Israel, and I delivered thee out of the hand of Saul;

8 and I gave thee thy master’s house, and thy master’s wives into thy bosom, and gave thee the house of Israel and of Judah; and if that had been too little, I would moreover have given unto thee such and such things.

9 Wherefore hast thou despised the commandment of the LORD, to do evil in his sight? thou hast killed Uri’ah the Hittite with the sword, and hast taken his wife to be thy wife, and hast slain him with the sword of the children of Ammon.

10 Now therefore the sword shall never depart from thine house; because thou hast despised me, and hast taken the wife of Uri’ah the Hittite to be thy wife.
david was so deceieved he didn’t even know that nathan was indeed talking about him in the story
so i ask a question as nathan ask david are you that man. are you that man who is being deceied. “Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts:
And see if there be any wicked way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting.”(Psalms 139:23-24)

Discerning The World

Exactly..you need to test and weight everything you hear against the Bible.

albert sheffey

create within me a clean heart o God and renew within me a right spirit psalm 51:10 note david says a right spirit. So this brings me to my point there is a spirit of God and a sPirit of the devil a angel of the devil and a angel of God. You must be able to separate the two. Wake up people these are the last days Satan seeks to destroy and decieve you anyway he can. 1 john 4:1
International Standard Version (©2008)
Dear friends, stop believing every spirit. Instead, test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
New American Standard Bible (©1995)
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

GOD’S WORD® Translation (©1995)
Dear friends, don’t believe all people who say that they have the Spirit. Instead, test them. See whether the spirit they have is from God, because there are many false prophets in the world.

King James Bible
Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

American King James Version
Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

American Standard Version
Beloved, believe not every spirit, but prove the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

Bible in Basic English
My loved ones, do not put your faith in every spirit, but put them to the test, to see if they are from God: because a great number of false prophets have gone out into the world.

AriseMyLove

Dear TrueBride99 and Albert:

You both need to “study to show yourselves approved” in the Word of God so that you can “rightly divide it”…

Having a “clean heart” means that you are cleansed of sin and in good standing with the Lord God as to your own sin nature in the moment.

But having a “clean heart” does NOT guarantee that you will have DISCERNMENT.

Discernment of spirits has nothing to do with sin or the purity of our hearts before God.

Discernment os Spirits has to do with having the Word “written on our hearts” as God said He would do this in Ezekiel when the Messiah came.

We need to know the Eternal Word so well that we KNOW when it is NOT God speaking to us or speaking through a false prophet, as William Branham is.

THAT IS HOW YOU CAN TELL IF SOMEONE IS FROM THE DEVIL OR NOT.

YOU JUDGE WHAT THEY SAY OR WHAT THEY PREACH OR WHAT THEY TEACH OR WHAT THEY PROPHESY BY THE STANDARD OF THE WORD OF GOD.

Because “the Word is NOT of private interpretation.”

We can know exactly what God means in the Bible, because the Bible was written in a manner that interprets itself.

If you are confused about one portion of scripture, all you have to do is see how God used that same phrase, or word, or symbol, or name in one part of Scripture and then see how He uses it in another part of Scripture and VIOLA!
You understand what God meant!

William Branham, on the other hand, did NOT have understanding of the scriptures. Google around. There is this funny part where Btanham simply mangles the Word of God and adds tiny little words into Scripture sentences that change the entire meaning.

This shows that Branham was operating under the influence of demons. You cannot change the word of God as Branham attempted to do without being “drunk” in delusion of demons.

But remember this — we understand the Word and know the Spirit by our SPIRITS, not our hearts. This is the meaning of “The Holy Spirit testifies to thy spirit”.

This use of the word “Spirit” means, in Greek, “our vital principle” or our “rationale seat” — it means OUR MINDS.

This is why the Saints will be sealed in their foreheads by the Lord God.

Our FOREHEADS are where we understand things, it is where our minds are located!

There is a very dangerous tendency in Branhamite, NAR churches, of “minds shut, spirits open”… this is TOTALLY AGAINST THE WORD OF GOD AND THE ESSENCE OF CHRISTIANITY.

Our minds are where the spiritual battle is fought! If we shut down our minds, we are opening ourselves up to anything and everything, with NO DISCERNMENT!

Jesus showed us how to do spiritual warfare during the forty days temptation in the desert.

And Satan used Scripture out of context and with a false interpretation of the truth of Scripture to try to tempt Jesus into sin!

(Hey, that’s just how William Branham twists scripture too!)

Anyway, Jesus did not fall for it, of course, because He understood in HIS RATIONAL MIND the TRUTH OF SCRIPTURE.

This is how He fought the spiritual warfare with the Devil in the desert.

IN HIS MIND.

ALL SPIRITUAL WARFARE IS IN OUR MINDS and our weapon is the RIGHTLY DIVIDING THE WORD OF GOD OR

A PROPER UNDERSTANDING OF SCRIPTURE.

THAT IS WHAT WE FIGHT WITH! THE SWORD OF THE SPIRIT WHICH IS THE WORD OF GOD!

But if we listen to Branhamites like Todd Bentley or Rick Joyner or C Peter Wagner or Bill Hamon or Bob Jones or Paul Cain or MIke BIckle or Cindy Jacobs or John Crowder or Jim Goll, we are being told to SHUT DOWN OUR MINDS IN A SERVICE!

THAT IS NUTS and it is a way for the enemy to brainwash people!

Watch out my friends… read your Bible, and know it and be pruned by it!

That is how you sharpen your sword of the Spirit, the Word of God, for battle!

Finally Branham did not understand this at all. he failed to “test the spirits’ and discern that demon that gave him information on people he was praying for. This is why so few were ever healed and so many died, according to Branham’s assistant.

Samuel

In response to the 1977 prediction, Bro. Branham says in the book you quoted him from “I PREDICT (I do not prophesy) that theses visions will come to pass by 1977.” and Jesus said no man knoweth, not, no man can know. so if you half write quotes down to get your point across you only get blind eyed sinners listening to you and not spiritually driven individuals who love god as much as you do, but only love the idols they worship everyday. God bless all Brothers and Sisters in Christ. Stay with God, and don’t accept the words of people who call themselves Christians but really aren’t.

Truebride99

dear arise my love and albert my humble and scriptural to you is that if you believe gods word to be a seed. remember the parable of Jesus to his disciples of the kingdom of God being likened to a sower who went to his field and sowed the good seed by day . but by night he the enemy come and plant his own seeds thereby causing a mixture of good and coruptible seed.

the whole word of God is a seed and doesnt contradict itself .

if one perorm miracles that Jesus did on earth howbeit then he becomes a false prophet:; just as the bible says that false prophets shall decieve many and shall decieve the very elect if it were possible ” IS THAT TO SAY THAT DAYS OF MIRACLES IS PAST?” or ” WE ARE NO LONGER IN THE DAYS WHERE REAL GENUINE MIRACLES ARE PERFOMED?!!!!” how about john 14:12?????? Shall john 14:12 cease to be truth because of matthew 24:24

think about it the word of God is a seed it doesnt contradict itself its accurate

stop and think about it my beloved brethren don’t try to be hypocratical thinking your are believing true prophecy which is “Your private interpretation of the Word of God”

remember that is what satan is doing to believer today thinking wrong and misinterpretting the word

“1 corinthians 12” bro arise my love the spirit of DISCERNMENT is a gift of the spirit and if satan can discern just as the spirit of CHRIST then his death on the roman tree was made of non effect

Discernment has everything to do cleansing of the soul and spirit because a nature of the soul has to be changed for the spirit and the mind of christ to come to a believer

thats why upto now few people can discern true from false prophets

my dear brethren we dont disern by our eyes or minds but by the the never failing WORD OF GOD or SWORD

jesus told his disciples “If any man doeth his will you will know through his doctrine; i i dont speak my own word by My Fathers word” ; search in them you think got eternal life they testify of me ”

in other words and their works is a testimony of the life of Jesus 2000 years ago

again brethren put on the spiritual cap for the moment and see the things that i have written to you ar true according to Gods Word

truebride99

=> discerning the world

my dearest and greatest of brethren to whom this blog is concerned it is bizzare for you who claim to men of God to be blind to the truth(Christ)

very important question 2 you

how is a false prophet identified; by spirit????? NO by the and i insists the Never failing word of God the SWORD of God

it is for this reasons Jesus first coming he said he came so that those who can see to be blind and those who are blind to see……
now for a truth
1.”THE WORD NEVER COME THROUGH THEOLOGIANS”
2.”THE WORD ALWAYS COMES TO PROPHETs ” according to english dictoinary a “divine revealer of the word”

and a foreteller of the promises of God

with regards to the facts U give on a prophet are just to mudsling

our christian faith is not based on theology or our intellectual translation of the word of God but on the true word of God
thats why you are blind those that follow your footsteps are the “blind being led by the blind”

your foundation of biblical conceptions are futile

” God Knows man that his thoughts are futile”

Jesus one time spoke and said “If the blind lead the blind; wont they fall into a ditch”

remove your intellectuall cap and put on just for the moment ,a spiritual one

the bible is of no private interpretation

you’ve clang to your toooo much to your own perception about the bible ” Lean not unto thy understanding”

john “14:12 he that beliveth on me the works that i do shall he do also”

the spirit bears with aour spirit

a true prophet is never vindicated by the spirit but by the WORD (john 1:14)

about manifested sons of God

we are sons and daughters of God according to his Good pleasures of his will

not just about every one is a son and daughter . they are known before hand

the mormons believed on the “latter rain” which is truth according to prophet joel but

how do you know the mormons were false regardless of this truth on latter rain

they also held the doctrine of “PRE- EXISTENCE” Incarnation” of the soul

“MORONI” was their prophet

MORONI was false prophet because he had the truth: but also had false doctrine “PRE-EXISTENCE”

but a true prophet will always have 100% truth not mixing false doctrine and truth at the same time

my Brethren u may be sincere in your heart but remember, it wont do you good to believe the word of God in portions

the word is a seed you cant believe 50% and procalim prophecy redemption you got to take it whole and digest it

you may be a sincere honest brethren trying to be a child of God meditating upon His statutes day an night which i dont doubt even a bit ; but remember without all truth theris no truth at all

not any where in the scripture is there is a doctrine of “PRE-EXISTENCE” but there is “Latter rain/Harvest” (read joel O.T)doctrine

the word is for inspiration and reproof not conceptualization

again i humbly declare this on this blog but think twice o what i’ve written to you “THIN TWICE” before replying back

AriseMyLove

Dear TrueBride:

Uh…

You know not the Scriptures nor do you know the power of God, my friend.

Your arguments are extremely convoluted. You do not display an understanding of why we are to be \”apologists\” for the Word of God.

It takes a person who believes in the charismatic gifts of prophecy to see false prophets. Just like it took Elijah to pull down the prophets of Baal.

Please don\’t make the mistake that either I or Discerning the World here do not believe that the miracles of Pentecost are not for today. Of course we do.
If we did not, we could not see why Branham is a false prophet.

Your standards, TrueBride, for discernment are in error.

You need to \”study to show yourself approved\” as did the Bereans in the book of Acts when Paul first preached to them

You do understand you and I are to be Bereans, correct?

You do understand that this is the proper way to put all so called modern day \”prophets\” to the test, correct?

Branham did not know the word.

Branham taught ridiculous things.

Branham did NOT put his \”angel\” to the test of Scripture.

You and I need to take the words and teachings and experiences and \”miracles\” and supernatural displays of William Branham and PUT THEM TO THE TEST OF THE BIBLE.

That is how you tell if someone is a true or false prophet.

As to your idea about the Word being a \”Seed\” of course, but this has nothing to do with testing the spirits by the Word of God.

Your arguments make no sense, truebride. Your logic is jumbled and you make a poor case for Christianity, let alone William Branham. You need to study to show yourself approved.

Study up on the Manifest Sons of God doctrine and get back to us after you understand why it is heresy. Also, do some homework for us on how William Branham got involved with that \”Latter Rain\” heresy and then get back to us.

Other than that, you really need to learn to be more coherent in your stand in the Lord. Unbelievers would simply scratch their heads at your logic and walk away thinking Christians are insane…

Do your homework and get back to us then. Thanks.

Discerning The World

Arise…thanks so much for handling this thread for me…much appreciated.

Discerning The World

Truebride99

I think the article is VERY VERY CLEAR and SELF EXPLANITORY; if you want to accept BIZZARE teachings…then I can’t stop you. All I can do is show you…which I have done and everyone else who has read this.

>> how is a false prophet identified; by spirit????? NO by the and i insists the Never failing word of God the SWORD of God

Just thought I would point out 1 John 4 to you:

Test the Spirits

1Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
2This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God,
3but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.

4You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world.
5They are from the world and therefore speak from the viewpoint of the world, and the world listens to them.
6We are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us; but whoever is not from God does not listen to us. This is how we recognize the Spirit of truth and the spirit of falsehood.

So in the Bible / Word of God clearly states that we TEST THE SPIRITS to determine false prophets and false teaching….so not sure what bible you’re reading….I think the best is to just go by a new one, incase the one you are reading is the William Branham version – you know the one where it only contains his sermons and nothing else…

AriseMyLove

Dear TrueBride:

I have no idea what you are talking about.

DTW is a prophet and so am I. There is no such thing as an elite Old Testament Prophet in the modern age. Paul tells EVERYONE to “be ambitious to prophesy”.

The Mormon’s MORONI was not a “prophet”. It was a supernatural entity, a DEMON.

You need to really go off somewhere and do your homework, TrueBride.

You make NO sense and do NOT know the Bible.

God bless, and you have no idea what you are talking about with the doctrine of the Manifest Sons of God, obviously.

Please go off and do your homework, it is embarrassing. Sorry to be so harsh, but you really don’t communicate the Word or the Lord very well at all.

Study up on the Bereans. That should be easy enough for you. Then get back to us.

Discerning The World

Arise

>> DTW is a prophet

I am not a prophet. Just a normal little person who loves Jesus Christ and is born again. I do however hold the Apostles and Prophets in the Bible of high esteem for they went through great suffering to write down the Word of God so that we can come to know the Truth (Jesus Christ) 2000+ years later. They wrote the Word of God through the Holy Spirit. Every WORD is God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit. And it is complete and final – nothing to add or take away.

We do not despise prophecy either…and that verse (can’t remember where it is now) is mostly taken really out of context and used by the NAR to back up their 5 fold ministry. They say there are apostles and prophets today who prophesy (like Branham). They say, ‘don’t despise prophesy’. Yes we don’t despise the Word of God at all.

>> Paul tells EVERYONE to “be ambitious to prophesy”.

Do you mean this verse?

2 Corinthians 5: 5-13 (NASB)

5 Now He who prepared us for this very purpose is God, who gave to us the Spirit as a pledge.
6 Therefore, being always of good courage, and knowing that while we are at home in the body we are absent from the Lord—
7 for we walk by faith, not by sight—
8 we are of good courage, I say, and prefer rather to be absent from the body and to be at home with the Lord.
9 Therefore we also have as our ambition, whether at home or absent, to be pleasing to Him.
10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may be recompensed for his deeds in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad.

Being ambitious is not about prophecy but about being ambitious in pleasing God, this means in all aspects of our life. Because we are born again of His Holy Spirit we will always try our best to please Him – whether we are at home in this body (on earth) or away from our body present with the Lord. For we will ALL be held accountable for our actions and will all stand before the judgment seat of Jesus Christ.

AriseMyLove

Dear DTW:

Actually I was saying that about you and me being prophetic because the NARbots have a tendency to elevate the office of the Prophet beyond what is called for in the modern church.

I’ll let the different translations of the verse quoted speak for itself:

Therefore, my brothers, desire the ability to prophesy, and do not prevent others from speaking in other languages.

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
Therefore, my brethren, desire earnestly to prophesy, and do not forbid to speak in tongues.

GOD’S WORD® Translation (©1995)
So, brothers and sisters, desire to speak what God has revealed, and don’t keep anyone from speaking in other languages.

King James Bible
Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues.

American King James Version
Why, brothers, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues.

American Standard Version
Wherefore, my brethren, desire earnestly to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues.

Bible in Basic English
So then, my brothers, let it be your chief desire to be prophets; but let no one be stopped from using tongues.

Douay-Rheims Bible
Wherefore, brethren, be zealous to prophesy; and forbid not to speak with tongues.

Darby Bible Translation
So that, brethren, desire to prophesy, and do not forbid the speaking with tongues.

English Revised Version
Wherefore, my brethren, desire earnestly to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues.

Webster’s Bible Translation
Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak in languages.

Weymouth New Testament
The conclusion, my brethren, is this. Be earnestly ambitious to prophesy, and do not check speaking with tongues;

World English Bible
Therefore, brothers, desire earnestly to prophesy, and don’t forbid speaking with other languages.

Young’s Literal Translation
so that, brethren, earnestly desire to prophesy, and to speak with tongues do not forbid;

It is actually about being ambitious to prophesy -not so much as pleasing the Lord — because of the fact that you are directly revealing God rather than in an unknown tongue…

Discerning The World

Oooook gotcha….I quoted a competely difference verse…

Samuel

You read the bible as if it were a legal document.
The bible doesn’t explain half the things you read in it and
Muslims like to prove their faith is of God because it is so much more detailed than the bible. They scrutinize the Qur’an
so much that they get caught up in scriptures.

Let’s not treat our faith as such. I could quote scriptures all day but you’d find a way to make me look stupid because that is what your goal is. Not to worship God, but to stir-up
trouble.

Now I don’t memorize scriptures too much because I know the author, who is the word. what does Luke say “In the beginning there was the word, and the word was with God and the word was God” I love that so much I can’t tell you. I find it funny that your so interested in a prophet who you don’t even recognize.

You obviously have read the bible. God bless all of you on this blog

Samuel

I’m sorry i quoted John not Luke. See now you’ll hold that to my faith as proof your right.

Discerning The World

Samuel

The article is self explanitory, like reading an article in a magazine..not that difficult to understand, just like the bible, easy to undertand.

Go read this never the less…

True Believer

I never implied that William Branham is Jesus Christ

It just shows how blinded you are

Discerning The World

True Believer

No you didn’t, but being a william branham supporter you would know that he is the ‘lamb’ in revelations and the sun in Malachi – so braham thought he was Jesus. So….ja…

These conversations are soooo terribly pointless because the evidence of false teaching I have shown, if you don’t want to listen….then…nothing more I can do.

AriseMyLove

Dear truebride99:

I do not mean to sound condescending, but is English your first language?

If it is, there is something amiss in the way you communicate.

If it is not your first language, you still need to learn the Bible and understand it more clearly.

I do operate prophetically in and out of the church, though I consider this a normal manner for all born again believers. This is because I believe what Amos wrote

“I always reveal my secret purposes in advance to my prophets the saints…”

Prophesy is not a big deal. It has only been made to be a big deal by the false teachings of William Branham and others of the Latter Rain heresy because they want to be bigger and better “Prophets” than the lowly every day Christian — and lord it over them.

This creates an elite “class’ of super Prophets and super Apostles who do not serve the sheep.

Read my article on Harvest Rock and Che Ahn here to see what the Lord means…

truebride99

dear arise =>

you got it wrong

“not my prophets the saints”

but ” my servants the prophets”

don’t screw up sacred scriptures

Discerning The World

Dear truebride99

Let’s get this straight once and for all. You have twisted the ENTIRE Bible to suit your Branham occult teaching.

I am allowing this comment through, but this is a 1 of 2 warning . Either respond with a decent comment that is worth while answering or don’t comment at all.

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