Ingrid Schlueter – Celebrates Holy Cross Day

Ingrid Schlueter – Celebrates Holy Cross Day

You’ve got to be kidding me?   Ok, Ingrid… What is this about?    Isn’t this the same as Advent?   Holy Cross day is part of the Catholic year (Liturgical year).   I can’t believe one needs to uphold a day in the year to place emphasis on what Jesus Christ did on the cross for us.  What other ‘strange’ days does your church emphasize?

Does the bible not emphasise that one is to come OUT OF the Roman Catholic church totally and utterly?  But hang on a seccie, are you not a Lutheran, which is nothing but a more ‘christianized’ version of the Catholic church?  Just because Luther defied the Roman Catholic church and nailed a piece of paper to a door does not make the man a Christian, all he did was bring about a new movement.  Lutheranism and Calvinism all come from Rome and will go back to Rome.


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The Centrality of the Cross

Sep 14,  by Ingrid Schlueter

“Our church has a carillon that can play samples of church bells from around the world. Our call to worship today was unique in that we heard the bells of Kreuzkirche in Dresden to call us to prayer. The church was founded before the Reformation in 1215 when over in England the Magna Carta was being signed by King John at Runnymede. During the Reformation, the first Lutheran service was held there after being rebuilt in 1539.

Today was the 18th Sunday after Pentecost which is traditionally a service called Holy Cross day. The emphasis was our need for the work of Christ accomplished on that cross of Calvary 2000 years ago, and the importance of the centrality of the cross in our lives today. The hymns today were all about the cross, and the opening hymn was the wonderful, Lift High the Cross...”

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“Holy Cross Day, 14 September, originally commemorates the alleged discovery of the true cross in Palestine in the fourth century. In Lutheran churches, it is the occasion for preaching on the theology of the cross.”    —


[EDITED 22 May 2010:  Article edited as requested by Ingrid Schlueter.

See Ingrid’s comments: and here:

with my response here:

see further comments made my Ingrid on the topic of Holy Cross day in the comments section]

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Deborah (Discerning the World)

Deborah Ellish is the author of the above article. Discerning the World is an internet Christian Ministry based in Johannesburg South Africa. Tom Lessing and Deborah Ellish both own Discerning the World. For more information see the About this Website page below the comments section.

44 Responses

  1. Now we do have these verses:

    Romans 14:1-6
    14:1 As for the one who is weak in faith, welcome him, but not to quarrel over opinions.
    2 One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables.
    3 Let not the one who eats despise the one who abstains, and let not the one who abstains pass judgment on the one who eats, for God has welcomed him.
    4 Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another? It is before his own master that he stands or falls. And he will be upheld, for the Lord is able to make him stand.
    5 One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind.
    6 The one who observes the day, observes it in honor of the Lord.

    BUT considering the times we live in…and based on the FACT that this ‘holy cross day’ is based on Roman Catholic church false doctrine it is therefore imperitive Ingrid that you do not lead people astray because you refuse to acknowledge that this is a roman catholic ceremony.

    Romans 14:1-13
    13 Therefore let us not pass judgment on one another any longer, but rather decide never to put a stumbling block or hindrance in the way of a brother.

    Are you going to be a stumbling block for others?


    From: Christian Research Network
    Founder: Ingrid Schlueter
    General Editor: Pastor Ken Silva

    Article: Evangelicals Adopting Advent
    Published December 2nd, 2008 by Editor in General

    From USA TODAY by Cathy Lynn Grossman

    “Evangelical Christians are adopting — and adapting — the rituals of Advent, the four weeks leading up to Christmas that are traditionally celebrated by Catholics, Lutherans, Eastern Orthodox and other liturgical churches.

    They’re giving a new, personalized spin to the prayers, candles and calendars to track the building excitement, and set a spiritual tone day by day. This year Advent begins on Sunday.”

  3. Burning Lamp says:

    The rhetoric expressed here by Ingrid and Ken is certainly not what one would expect from one believer to another. It is cold, rude and nasty. Even if they believe they have been wronged, the Bible says our response should not return in kind. What does this say about these folks? I for one will no longer consider them reliable discerners. Their remarks smack of pride – which the Lord hates. Where is the humility? This is truly sad.

  4. Alan says:

    Hey B L!

    Nice to see you’re back!
    How did your missionary trip go?
    The pastor of that Messianic fellowship I told you about has just returned from a 10 day trip to eastern and central Russia, visiting Jewish communities and Jewish believers there. Starting with two Jewish ladies (mother and daughter) who they met on the plane to Korea, there were twenty four Jewish people who were saved as a result of their witness.
    Don’t know about you, but I get more excited about people being saved than I do about stories of miraculous healing, even if they’re true.
    God bless,

  5. Burning Lamp says:

    Hey Alan,

    Amen – many people heard the uncompromised Gospel and made professions for Christ. Only the Lord knows the heart as to who was genuine and who was not, but they heard and hopefully will be discipled by local pastors. You are so right – the new birth is the greatest miracle of all and results in the ultimate healing of the heart. The signs and wonders folks like to trumpet the sensational, but it is what quietly happens in the heart is of of paramount importance.

  6. BL

    It is very very sad. Since this post I have thought about Ingrid on a daily basis, hoping she would come back and just clear this up in a genuinely loving Christian fashion. But I see that has not happened, and I don’t know if it will. What I do know is that my question still stands, forever and ever, until she tells us that it’s something she no longer believes in following or tells us it’s ok and good. The answer so far tells us that she believes celebrating a catholic ceremony is ok. But I don’t want to make assumptions here.

    And this article has opened up a whole new can of worms. And I have lots and lots of time on my hands to pull out one wormy at a time and inspect him to see if he belongs in the ground making fertiliser or is a plant destroyer and needs to be exposed.

  7. Rudy R. Cheef says:

    Ahhh, the errors! They pass so easily as
    truth! Let us all cleave to the King James
    Bible of 1611, and pray that this not be so
    of Ingrid Schlueter. She is an agent of Rome,
    seeking to seduce the church of North America
    and subject free men to the power of the Papacy!
    A POX on her, out out, come out all of you NOW!
    I stand with Righteous King James and his MEN
    who fought this error with their blood.

  8. Jeff Ruzicka says:

    I have a problem with the divisive comments against Ingrid Schlueter and that is there should be no division on something that celebrates the cross if it keeps in mind and preaches Christ also raised from the dead. Did not Paul use the unknown god with Greeks. I suppose now Ingrid Schlueter’s opponents will write that this makes Paul a pagan.

  9. Jeff

    Um Jeff, the unknown god example can’t work with Ingrid because Ingrid is SUPPOSED TO BE KNOWLEDGEABLE CHRISTIAN, not a pagan Greek who knows nothing.

    Secondly. It’s a CATHOLIC celebration Jeff. What part of this don’t you understand?

    Thirdly, please supply scripture where Jesus says we are to celebrate anything other than the Lords Supper to remember HIM?

    Fourthly, Paul did not partake in an ungodly celebration while PREACHING to the Greeks.

  10. Beth says:

    So, what is your point about Ingrid? Are you saying she isn’t a real Christian? That she is a pagan? Please explain what you are saying for me who is having a tough time following your train of thought.

    I’d also like you to explain why it is wrong for Christians to remember the sacrifice Jesus made on the cross of Calvary? Are you saying that only Catholics or pagans or misguided Christians do that sort of thing?

    Thanks for your consideration.

  11. Oh boy, someone does not pay attention.

  12. Burning Lamp says:

    Debs, after your 3 month histus it seems it is delusion as normal. Sigh……….

    Great to have you back my friend!! I was SOOOO concerned about you!!! Been praying for you!!!

  13. BL

    Hi my dear dear friend. Thank you for all your emails and all your prayers. I am so happy to be back. I thought about everyone every day, and read an email on occasion, but just didn’t have energy to reply. I am still on a ‘go-slow’, only allowing myself a few hours on the blog a day for starters – my little brain needs TLC.

    love ya!!!

  14. Evan Deters says:

    Schlueter is a total flake. I’ve seen her
    waffle on almost every point of doctrine,
    at the same time railing at the smallest
    perceived offenses on the part of others
    she thinks have strayed from the ‘straight
    and NARROW’. She’s just looking for attention,
    and like some kind of radio shock jock deals
    in stuff that gets the public attention. She’s
    like a mirror image of Howard Sterns. Haven’t
    heard her lately, but tune her in some time.

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