Patricia King and the Blue Flame of the Cosmic Christ


By Patricia King – October 17, 2006

For the last number of months, I have had recurring nudges from the Holy Spirit to meditate on the phrase, “The Blue Flame of the Lord.”

The blue flame is the hottest and most intense part of a fire, and the color blue is often a prophetic symbol of divine revelation, God’s love, and an open Heaven.

Blue Flame Encounter

Recently while teaching at Glory School in Dudley, England, with Trevor and Sharon Baker, I had a spiritual encounter regarding the Blue Flame of the Lord. In this encounter, I could feel myself soaring like an eagle, looking upward into the sun while in flight. My eyes were fixed on the sun. Eagles (often a Biblical symbol of the prophetic) in the natural have an extra membrane over their eyes that other birds do not have. This allows them to look directly into the sun without damage to their vision.

As I gazed into the sun, I could feel myself being drawn towards its center, and that is when I saw it–the Blue Flame. It was so beautiful. I could feel its strength that is to be feared and respected, and also I felt its passion. The Lord gave me three points of understanding and application that I would like to share with you.

1. The Blue Flame Speaks of Divine Revelation

Fire is an illuminator. Our Heavenly Father has given us the Holy Spirit as our Helper. He leads and guides us into all truth, and grants us revelation concerning Christ and His invisible Kingdom. The Spirit reveals the deep things of God.

In 1 Corinthians 2:9-10, the Scripture teaches that the Holy Spirit reveals to those who love the Lord, the things that eye has not seen, ear has not heard, and things that have not even entered into our heart. Verse 10 states, “…for the Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God.”…

The Lord is promising an impartation of the deep things of His heart to those who fix their gaze upon Him. This is a season of increased and intensified revelation for those whose lives are completely His.

[DTW note:   I’ve read 1 Corinthians 2 v 9-10 and I can’t seem to find the words ‘blue flame’ anywhere, maybe I’m reading the wrong bible.]

2. The Blue Flames Speaks of His Passionate Love

Song of Solomon 8:6 teaches, “…love is as strong as death; jealousy is cruel as the grave: the coals there of are coals of fire, which have a most vehement flame.”

The intensity of this type of jealous love speaks of His great passion and affection for us. We are in His heart continuously. It is the power of this love that purifies and refines us. This love burns up the dross and aligns us with His ways and purposes.

When we are filled with His passionate love, the blue flame is also ignited within us and creates an intense love response to Him. “We love Him because He first loved us.” (1 John 4:19). When the blue flame of His love burns within us, we will also love others with His passion.

The Body of Christ is being invited to be filled with the blue flame of His love and to cause the world around us to be set ablaze with this love. New levels of refining, separation, purification, and purging will come to God’s people as a result of individuals being filled with the blue flame of love. More intense levels of love for God and for others will be experienced in the Body of Christ.

[DTW Note:   So as per your definition, when we are filled with His passionate love, the blue flame is also ignited within us and creates an intense love response to Him and then you quote 1 John 4 v 19  “We love Him because He first loved us”.  Wow, I can really see how you managed to connect the dots to the ‘blue flame’ using that verse.]

3. The Blue Flame Speaks of the Essence of Heaven

When examining the Scriptures, it appears that blue (found in the sapphire) is a significant color in Heaven. In fact, the pavement under God’s feet is sapphire. Exodus 24:10, “And they saw the God of Israel: and there was under His feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of Heaven in His clearness.”

We also find that the foundations of the walls of the Heavenly Jerusalem include sapphire stones (Revelation 21:19).

In the natural, when we look up into the sky, we see “blue.” Blue is the color that symbolizes the Open Heaven.

Many of God’s children in this hour, will receive increased Heavenly and divine encounters. The Body of Christ will become more and more familiar with the reality of Heaven–God’s place of abode. Multiplied manifestations of Heaven will be seen in the earth. More believers will live under the blessings of the Open Heaven.

[DTW Note:  Goodness, this is your analysis to explain the blue flame?  Because the pavement under God’s feet are sapphires which are blue in colour, and the sky is blue, hence your blue flame must be of God.  That’s quite impressive, I am sure no one else in the world can compete with that kind of revelation.] 

Word of Wisdom and Revelation

Our friend Faisal Malick from Covenant of Life Ministries adds these thoughts:

“The blue flame of the Lord represents purity of revelation and wisdom. Revelation is unveiling hidden wisdom in the right season. Secrets are never hidden from God, but by HIM, for us.

[DTW note:  Let’s see what 1 Corinthians 2:6-8 has to say;

 Yet we do speak wisdom among those who are mature; a wisdom, however, not of this age nor of the rulers of this age, who are passing away;  7 but we speak God’s wisdom in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God predestined before the ages to our glory;  8 the wisdom which none of the rulers of this age has understood; for if they had understood it they would not have crucified the Lord of glory;”

Ok Faisal Mailick, this hidden wisdom was truth known only to God at the time and He kept it secret until the appropriate time for Him to reveal it.  The hidden wisdom was Jesus Christ’s perfect sacrifice on the Cross which proved that the religious leaders and the others that wanted Jesus Christ crucified lacked wisdom.

Seeing that Faisal Malick thinks this hidden wisdom is still something to be obtained (via this blue flame) makes me think he himself lacks wisdom, because quite frankly the answer to the question is in the bible, it’s Jesus Christ’s sacrifice for the world.  And you won’t believe it Faisal, but this happened over 2000 years ago already.  Any ‘new’ wisdom you receive won’t be from God as this ‘hidden wisdom’ chapter was revealed and finished by God.  Jesus said himself, ‘It’s finished’.

John 19:30

30   Therefore when Jesus had received the sour wine, He said, “It is finished!” And He bowed His head and gave up His spirit.

John 17:4

4   “I glorified You on the earth, having accomplished the work which You have given Me to do.

But the woes continue…


When the Kairos time comes for hidden wisdom to be revealed in the earth, the deep of the Father connects with the deep of our spirits, and Holy Spirit impregnates us with revelation knowledge wrapped in the seed of His Word. As a result, hidden wisdom foreordained unto our Glory in Christ is unlocked.

Then forerunners come forth out of the wilderness impregnated with revelation knowledge in the womb of their spirit. They carry the baby, or steward the revelation in the midst of persecution and affliction with great joy, knowing that they must give birth to the plans of the Spirit into the earth.

Then the season comes where they actually speak forth by the Spirit of wisdom and revelation, making known even to the principalities and powers the wisdom of God, that was hidden long before even principalities existed.

This then provides a death blow to the devil and the gates of hell which can not prevail against revelation knowledge, and allows the will of Heaven to be done on earth as it is in Heaven.”  “The WORD is forever settled in Heaven but must be established in earth.”

[DTW note:  What an utter load of garbage…sorry I just had to add this.  They just don’t get it do they:  “The Word is forever settled in Heaven but must be established in earth” is JESUS CHRIST.  He came, born of the Holy Spirit, lived a completely sinless life, and was crucified on a cross that His blood may wash away our sins for those who believe in him and repent.  Jesus is the Word and the Word is and was and will be forever be established on earth – before the beginning of creation.]

Embrace the Blue Flame

May we gaze with a renewed focus into the intense fiery love of God. Let’s prepare ourselves to receive revelation into the deep mysteries of God and await authentic encounters with the very atmosphere of Heaven.

Let’s embrace the Blue Flame and allow Him to burn strong in our hearts. May we truly be known as those He makes to be His ministers–flames of fire (Psalm 104:4).

[DTW note:  Patricia, there are no new mysteries, not even shallow ones for that matter.  The only ‘new’ revelation / secrets / mysteries you will receive will not come from God but from Satan for the Bible contains EVERYTHING you need to know.  When you go seeking wisdom outside the Word of God you are looking for trouble.  Satan is full of shallow wisdoms that appear incredibly deep, that he will happily pass onto you, but know what the bible says of those who willfully seek after lies:

John 8:44

 44“You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him.  Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Therefore we all need to beware of people like Patricia King and….

1 Peter 5:8

 8Be of sober spirit, be on the alert for Your adversary, the devil, prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour.

Patricia King



Extreme Prophetic Blue Flame Logo

[DTW Note:  Let us go and see what exactly this blue flame is:]

Blue Flame - HeartWhat is the blue flame, What it represents and Who it belongs to:

Patricia says:   [emphasis added]

  1. “I had a spiritual encounter regarding the Blue Flame of the Lord. In this encounter, I could feel myself soaring like an eagle, looking upward into the sun while in flight. My eyes were fixed on the sun.”
  2. “He leads and guides us into all truth, and grants us revelation concerning Christ and His invisible Kingdom. When we are filled with His passionate love, the blue flame is also ignited within us and creates an intense love response to Him.”
  3. “Multiplied manifestations of Heaven will be seen in the earth. More believers will live under the blessings of the Open Heaven. “
  4. “Let’s prepare ourselves to receive revelation into the deep mysteries of God and await authentic encounters with the very atmosphere of Heaven” 

New Age – Ascended Masters (The Christ) – The Great Central Sun also known as the Heart of God:

[DTW Note:   this is what those that believe in these Ascended Masters have to say – see how they quote biblical scripture as well; and of course what they try and link the scripture too is a complete lie.]

  1. The Great Central Sun is one with every individual’s Mighty I AM Presence.
  2. The Sun behind the Sun is the Spiritual Cause behind the physical effect we see as our own Physical Sun and all other stars and star systems, seen or unseen, including the Great Central Sun. The Sun behind the Sun of Cosmos is perceived as the Cosmic Christ – the Word by Whom the Formless was endowed with form and Spiritual Worlds were draped with physicality.

The Seven Elohim are mighty Beings of Love and Light.  Who responded to the invitation of the Sun of this System.

  1. “ELOHIM” is a Hebrew word meaning “God” – used 2,500 times in the Old Testament. It is a uni-plural noun that refers to the Twin Flames of the Godhead – the “Divine Us” Who in the beginning (Gen. 1:1) created male and female in their image and likeness (Gen. 1:26, 27). The Elohim embody the Light of the Father-Mother God, whom they personify on each of the Seven Rays.
  2. These Seven Sets of Twin God-Flames: are the “Seven Spirits of God” referred to in Revelation 1:4; 3:1; 4:5; 5:6  The Elohim are also the “Morning Stars” that sang together in the Beginning, as revealed by the LORD in the Book of Job.
Vibration   Ray    Flame   Elohim
Power First Ray Blue Flame Hercules and Amazonia
Wisdom Second Ray Golden Yellow Flame Apollo and Lumina, fka: Cassiopeia and Minerva
Love Third Ray Pink Flame Heros and Amora, fka: Orion and Angelica
Purity Fourth Ray White Flame Elohim of Purity and Astrea
Healing and Truth Fifth Ray Emerald Green Flame Cyclopea and Virginia
Peace Sixth Ray Purple and Gold Flame Elohim of Peace and Aloha
Freedom Seventh Ray Violet Flame Arcturus and Victoria

Beginning in the Heart of the Great Central Sun, Hierarchy manifests as the stepping-down of the Energies of Alpha and Omega, of the Sacred AUM, of the I AM THAT I AM that is the Fiery Focal Point for the whole of creation, the whole of the cosmos. The Elohim and Cosmic Beings carry the greatest concentration, the highest vibration of Light that we can comprehend in our state of evolution.     [Emphasis added]

[DTW Note:  Uh but I get to differ, your Seven Sets of Twin God-Flames ARE NOT the ‘Seven Spirits of God’ and can’t even come close to be compared to the Seven Spirits of God and here is why…

Rev 4-5 says:

5Out from the throne come flashes of lightning and sounds and peals of thunder. And there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God…”

The seven Spirits of God are lamps of fire, which represent the Holy Spirit.  And no the Holy Spirit is not made up of seven persons.  Here is another reference to the aspects of the Holy Spirit in…

Isaiah 11:12, it says:

“And the Spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD.”

See article on: The Biblical Holy Spirit vs. The False Unholy Spirit of Fire

I have underlined the seven aspects of the Holy Spirit above.  Notice how these 7 aspects of the Holy Spirit completely differ from the list of ‘vibrations’ in the table above.

And one last thing before I carry on, Elohim is the name for God, but God is NOT male and female.  The ‘im’ as the end of Eloh- is masculine in gender, therefore plural and not uni-plural. I won’t even comment on the rest of the rubbish written above.

As we can see you don’t have to be a ‘Christian’ to open the bible and quote verses.  There are two lessons to be learnt here.  Unbelievers can take scripture and use it for their own purposes – twisted, misquoted and turned into complete and utter lies (these unbelievers even call themselves Christian…hint, hint Patricia King).  True Believers take scripture – quote it correctly, in context, and never insult, ridicule or deny Jesus Christ in any way, ever.]

See verses at end of article re: –   There is only ONE God


Here is part of an incantation/prayer to the Ascended Masters and the ‘I AM THAT I AM’: 

“I invoke the blue Flame, which represents the Divine Power of my Father God.”

“I give gratitude to the glorious Cosmic and Ascended Beings, as I invoke them and the great Angelic Host to amplify the energy which I AM now releasing to assist with the fulfillment of the Divine Plan. May that Light expand and expand, as it travels throughout the Universe, ever widening the borders of the Kingdom of Heaven on Earth, in fulfillment of God’s Will.”     [Emphasis added]


A brief summary as to who / what the Ascended Masters are:

Ascended Master:-  a being who has become Self-Realized and serves humanity;  a being who has raised his/her vibration to a sustained frequency of light. He/she can come and go at will from the earth plane without the Birth/Death cycle.  The Ascended Masters have worked with mankind throughout the centuries. Most of the time in the past the Ascended Masters have worked in the background. There were some Ascended Masters who have assisted mankind such as Sanat Kumara also known in the Bible as the “Ancient of Days”, by some He is known as the “Lord of the World”.

[DTW note:  This is a funny one, in the bible the Ancient of Days referred to in Daniel 9 and Rev 20:11-15 is God who reigns down judgment on mankind because of their sin.  However in Satanism, Paganism, New Age, etc, “Ancient of Days” is Lucifer.  But explaining this does not really matter because they go on to expose themselves wide open by saying that this Ancient of Days is also called the Lord of this World.

2 Cor 4:4

 4in whose case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelieving so that they might not see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.”

John 12:31

 31“Now judgment is upon this world; now the ruler of this world will be cast out.”

Luke 4:6

 6And the devil said to Him, “I will give You all this domain and its glory; for it has been handed over to me, and I give it to whomever I wish.

So, conclusion;  the lord of this world is none other than Satan, Sanat Kumara is known as the Lord of the World, therefore Sanat Kumara is Satan.  Phewww, that was a tough one.]


List of some of the Ascended Masters:

Jesus the Christ (This is not Jesus Christ of the bible, but the Eucharist Christ), Buddha, Krishna, St Germain, Mother Mary, Melchizedek, Sanat Kumara, Maitreya, Lady Nada, Paul the Venetian, ISIS, Serapis Bey, Maha Chohan, Djwhal Khu, Babaji, Quan Yin, Sananda known as Jesus of Nazareth, Enoch, Confucius, Ganesha, Padre Pio – humble Capuchin Catholic priest, Milarepa, Elijah, Mary Magdalene, Rama etc.

List of some names of Archangels (in Occultism):

Adonael, Ariel, Barachiel, Chamuel (Angel of Tolerance), Gabriel (The Bright and Morning Star), Iaoth, Jehediel, Jeremiel, Jophiel (Angel of Enlightenment), Metatron – aka Lord Metatron (Angel of God’s Presence), Michael (Angel of Miracles, Angel of Truth), Orifiel, Raguel, Raphael (Angel of Healing), Sabrael, Sandalphon, Sealtiel, Uriel (Angel of Creativity), Zachariel, Zadkiel (Angel of Solace) Zerachiel.

List of Archangels and Angels (in Occultism):

Archangel Michael and Faith, Archangel Jophiel and Christine, Archangel Chamuel and Charity, Archangel Gabriel and Hope, Archangel Raphael and Mother Mary, Archangel Uriel and Auroria, Archangel Zadkiel and Amethyst, Elohim Hercules and Amazonia, Apollo and Lumina, Heros and Amora, PURITY and Astrea, Cyclopia and Virginia, Peace and Aloha, Arcturus and Victoria.

[DTW note:   Please notice that I have specifically highlighted the Angel Purity above, for it’s very very important that you read below:

Prophetic Directives For 2006 by Patricia King

The Visitation of the Angel Purity

“In December 2005, our producer Shirley Ross was visited by an angel called Purity. Purity is a white eagle with piercing, fiery eyes, and yet, it is soft, gentle, and dove-like in nature. Shirley also saw a golden ring that Purity carried. It was a ring of power and protection, and it was placed around individuals and groups who chose the virtue of purity. I was present during the visitation and also felt the presence of Purity at that time, although I did not see it. I heard three words in my spirit: Expose, Sift, Analyze. I felt the Lord say that He will expose things that need to be exposed in His children’s hearts and lives. Nothing will be left unexposed. For those that submit to His convictions and dealings, there will be new levels of authority and grace that follow. He will sift so that only the pure will remain, and He will analyze. “Every man’s ways are right in his own eyes, but the Lord weighs the hearts.” -Proverbs 21:2 The angel Purity returned the next day and the day after. I saw the vision of this being during the two days and also felt the softness of its breast feathers on one occasion. We met with our team artist Ruthann Fryer and commissioned her to paint the vision of this angel.”

[DTW note:  Here is some more information on how Purity and the blue flame are connected as well (see below).  Take note that Almighty God, Jesus the Christ and the Holy Spirit are mentioned in this incantation.  Of course this is NOT the One and Only Living God and our Lord Jesus Christ nor the Holy Spirit of the Bible.  Here are complete counterfeits (This ‘holy spirit’ is the one that manifests itself in Churches, the one that brings FIRE and ignites your spirituality.]

Occult incantation:   Call to the Elohim Purity and Astrea:

Elohim Purity and Astrea!
Elohim Purity and Astrea!
Elohim Purity and Astrea!

In the name of Jesus the Christ, I ask you to lock your cosmic circle and sword of blue flame around every pattern within me and within every child of God that keeps us en-slaved to bad habits, carnal-mindedness or addictions of any kind!

I call to the Elohim Purity and Astrea and the Goddess of Light, the Queen of Light and the Goddess of Purity to send your white fire and your circle and sword of blue flame to counteract all substance abuse and addiction, suicide, the violation of the child and abortion.

In the name of Almighty God, Jesus the Christ, the Holy Spirit and the Divine Mother, I call to beloved Astrea and all the mighty Elohim to release the circle and sword of blue flame around the cause and core of all that opposes my God-identity.

[DTW note:  So there we have it, this is what you are following if you listen to Patricia King’s teachings – this is what you have been deceived into following.  If you are following this woman’s teachings and anyone who associates with her and vice-versa, repent and TURN AWAY in fact RUN AWAY from this vile deception that is Anti-Christ!  That includes you too Patricia, if you yourself have been deceived because of others – please repent and turn your back on these blasphemous lies.

Notice the use of the name of Jesus Christ – No one can ever say that because someone uses the name of Jesus Christ that this makes them a Christian.  This Christ is the Eucharist Christ who’s Mother is the Goddess Mary, the Divine Mother, Queen of Heaven, Mother nature.]

False Prophets:

John 4:1  “Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.”

Matthew 7:15  “Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep€™s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.”

Jude 1:4   “For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.”

1 Timothy 4:1  “But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons.”

Acts 20:29-30  “29 I know that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock;  30  and from among your own selves men will arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after them.”

There is only ONE God

John 14:6  “Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.”

1 Timothy 2:5  “For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.”

Acts 4:12  “And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved.”

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73 Responses

  1. Anton says:

    Debs and all who wrote to Lee for all the inf and support …. soe !!! that is great and reassuring …. lets all be very careful , let nothing come in between your prayers and the Lord .Everbody …let us show and pronounce the word of the Lord

  2. Martin Horan says:

    We are told in the Psalms, therefore in God’s Own Word, that God Himself puts His Word above His Name and Jesus said that Scripture can not be broken. End of story. So it doesn’t matter what you I or the man next-door believe, think or experience. It is utterly irrelevant if it contradicts the Word of God.
    We ought to bear in mind that Jesus Himself tells us if we are not for Him we are against Him. He Who is the same yesterday, today and forever said it. So we’d best listen to Him and make sure that we are for Him. We are in deep trouble if we do not. Our eternal lives depend upon it.
    How do we “fix out gaze on Him”? We do so by going by what He says and we do that by reading His word.
    That’s how we know that devil comes as an angel of light as do his followers.
    We are told of the simplicity in Christ [2 Corinth 11:3] and that Jesus Christ thanked His Father that the gifts of God were not given to the wise or intellectuals of this world [Matt 11:25; Luke 10:21]. Contrast that with how subtle the devil is [Genesis 3:1]. God’s Truth is not rocket science. It is simplicity itself. But that’s too easy for this world. It wants the subtle things.
    Jesus said, “Me you reject but another you will follow” and the world does that. It did it in the Lord’s Own day and it’s doing it now.
    I have seen people “slain in the spirit” though there is no such biblical term and there is no such thing mentioned or even alluded to in God’s Word. You can be sure you won’t find any of this blue flame mentioned there either.
    If we are not wrapped up in God’s Word which is Truth, we are going to fall. The Bible warns us of these days especially.
    I have known people who I thought were sound Christians end up going off on all kinds of ridiculous tangents. This is because the are signs and wonders seekers in spite of the fact that Jesus Christ Himself called such people an evil and an adulterous generation.
    Jesus said that yet people still chase after these things. It’s very sad and it’s very baffling especially when people know the Bible.
    I guess it’s because they are just not living it.

  3. I happened to stumble on this site today. It is called PSYCHIC EXPERIENCES – PUBLISH YOUR PSYCHIC EXPERIENCE.” It was written by a person with the pseudonym of “finesoul.”

    Why Am I Seeing Blue Flames?

    I am hoping to get some guidance from some more experienced psychic’s on this sight. I have always had prophetic dreams where I see in sequence events that have not yet happened. I can predict very accurately all the details that are going to occur. Aside from having seen an entity that only appears when someone is about to die, that is the extent of my abilities… Until recently…

    Ironically, recently I have been getting books on psychic abilities from friends and at random. I’m not sure why as I haven’t expressed any interest in wanting these books. Nonetheless, they keep appearing! I haven’t really been reading them but have received quite a few written by Sylvia Brown. Shorty after receiving these books, I started to experience something that I cannot explain. I started seeing blue flames! I am actually seeing them, not sure if in the minds eye or not but they appear on candles as I walk by or on the stove or any other place that fire should be. I haven’t seen things catch fire or anything of that nature. I never feel threatened when seeing them, just baffled. The flames are usually blue with maybe a little white and disappear almost as soon as I see them. I have actually gotten up to turn off the stove only to realize the stove is not on. This is very strange and I cannot seem to figure out why I am seeing these flames. Am I losing my marb’s or is there an explanation for this?

    Thank you for any information or guidance!

    One of the answers he or she got was the following.

    Well I can help you you see I am a half demon and these flames means that Satan.

    It’s hard to say why you see them but it means that Satan is interested in you for a reason I don’t know.

    But don’t worry he won’t kill you if he wanted to he would already done it.

    He won’t stop though just try speaking to him he doesn’t want to hurt you or your family Abd friends so don’t worry.

    Sense your psychic it may mean you would be involved with us in the future.

    So goodluck finding out why does he need you.

    Read more here.

    This is heartbreaking: “Satan is interested in you for a reason I don’t know.” Had they known and read their Bibles, they would have known why Satan is so interested in them.

    The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy. I came that they may have life and have it abundantly. (John 10:10).

    Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour. (1Peter 5:8).

    You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies. (John 8:44)

  4. laura lee says:

    I LITERALLY SAW A DEMON ONCE. It was HORRIFIC. It had a black outer being that one could scarcely call “skin”. It was like the black of the rubber of a tire… and like that in consistency. It was burning a BLUE FLAME!! I literally saw this demon after watching a tv show with Benny Hinn on it. You might think I am making this up… but I am not.

    Literally, I didn’t realize that Benny Hinn wasn’t a Christian at the time. I certainly did not “follow his ministry” or anything. I didn’t. But people spoke highly of him.

    Well, I watched one television show by him… his preaching was WAY OFF… and I could tell that because I know the Bible and what he was preaching was NOT the Bible. He was speaking against Jesus Christ and His blood… against the forgiveness of sins through the cross. Now, someone might say that he didn’t. But, I was listening to what he was saying… and he literally spoke against the true Bible doctrines of salvation through Jesus Christ.

    I was shocked. And I wondered how he could speak such wrong things… since others said he was a “great minister”.

    AND, as I considered what he had said… LITERALLY… as I pondered what he said… A DEMON MANIFESTED!! LITERALLY!!

    I saw it. It was black like the color of rubber on a tire and “like that”… and it was BURNING A BLUE FLAME!!

    Like, I saw it’s outward black… that a person could “see through” though it was like rubber and not like human skin… and inwardly it was burning a blue flame straight from hell!!

    I believe the Holy Spirit told me it was a “spirit of fear” and Benny Hinn was preaching fear rather than faith in Jesus.

    Well, at that time, I just thought Benny Hinn was “off a bit” in his preaching. Now I think he is truly false because I studied what he says generally about Jesus and who Jesus is. (I’m sure that’s why when I heard him, I was shocked that he wasn’t preaching Jesus, the cross, and the power of the blood of Jesus. I was certain that was a demon power moving through him as he spoke… it surely was not the Holy Spirit. THEN, as I considered what he had said and was thinking about it… God LITERALLY SHOWED ME THE DEMON that Benny Hinn was ministering!)

    Well, that demon burned with a blue flame straight from hell. I will never forget it.

    So, I believe I know EXACTLY the spirit of the “blue flame” that this woman is talking about. It’s that demon. It’s the devil. It is surely NOT the Holy Spirit.

    The Holy Spirit clearly told me that the flame of hell is BLUE in it’s manifestation in the earth realm… and that is what I was seeing that was the demon Benny Hinn ministered. She is calling on people to FELLOWSHIP WITH THE SPIRIT OF THE DEVIL AND HELL THAT BURNS WITH THAT BLUE FLAME!

    That’s my testimony… and I am telling the truth.

  5. Laura Lee

    >> God LITERALLY SHOWED ME THE DEMON that Benny Hinn was ministering!)

    God will not show you a demon. That demon manifested because there is something in your life that is not ok and you need to repent of it. Now if we look at your next comment here 2014/11/23 at 9:25 am under the Calvinism’s Roman Catholic Connection article you state a whole lot of UNBIBLICAL things – you believe in Calvinism which is an attack on the gospel of Jesus Christ – this you need to repent of.

  6. Lesley Cathey says:

    I found Patricia to be insightful and some of these Christians commenting are spewing venom. The holy spirit is obviously not with them and they dont understand the bible they dont have eyes to see.

  7. Lesley Cathey

    Where in the Bible do you see a blue flame mentioned?

  8. K says:

    I had just come away from a crazy experience involving much of what is written here. I met a pastor with blue flames in his eyes.. Lots of weird things happened after that.. I thought we were twins and that I was going to conquer the world for Jesus with him after listening to his messages. My body started shaking while I was giving what I thought was a prophetic word while standing next to him at a church meeting. My heart also pounded so hard I thought I might die & bad palpitations do not come close. I’ve shared specific bible verses at previous churches that I felt compelled to share and that’s never happened to me. I didn’t think it was nerves, but I wasn’t confident it was a manifestation of the HS either. I saw many red flags in my dealings with this pastor, but looking back it was almost as if I was under a spell thinking he was just a sinner like me, he’s human.. He’s God’s anointed too.. I acted completely out of my character once in a phone conversation with him, felt like I snapped out of something.. I couldn’t even remember all that I had said. He would preach from the pulpit that we would be “white hot on fire for Jesus” and that always struck me as new & odd. I’ve never heard of a white flame before until this article. I believe a soul-tie was formed between us. I foolishly researched the blue flames & came across some stuff that led me to what I now believe was an encounter with Incubus or Succubus or whichever or however they’re spelled. I believe this man was deceitful & conniving. I ended up fasting because I just felt so much confusion & a heavy spirit after leaving the church because of that weird phone conversation and the fact I opened up myself to that demonic teaching, which I immediately repented of. But this heaviness wouldn’t leave me. I felt the enemy was trying to make me give up & forfeit my faith so I pressed in through fasting.. I came to believe I was hearing from the Lord and again started believing (after just a few days before denouncing it as not of God) that God was going to bring us together and I again acted out of character & emailed this guy obscure weird emails.. Later being convinced I was writing them in the night hours, to in fact see that I was writing him in the middle of the day! I sat down, and cried out to the Lord, “what is going on with me!!!?? Please Jesus!! What just happened, why did this happen again!?!?!” And in that moment it was as if every red flag I had ignored popped into my head at lightening speed and I realized all that I just went through was demonic, starting with the first time I met this pastor with blue flames in his eyes. I believe he is operating in the spirit of Jezebel. He may not even know it himself which is very sad. I could write a book with all the details from day one. Bottom line.. This is all so demonic and we need to make sure we study the bible with the bible. There is so much false teaching these days. And do not go by feelings or experience, but the Word of God! My eyes have been opened! I was walking in ignorance and pride.

    Looking back he had this small painting of the words I AM in his living room.. Not to get too weird about it because I AM is the Holy God!, but with everything now (and after reading about that in this article) I’m wondering if he was ever dabbling in the occult before. The Jezebel spirit is witchcraft so..

    He also has (many times) confessed to his porn addiction in his past as well as made reference to being deathly sick for several years and no doctor could figure out why. (Now I wonder if that was demonic induced I’ll lness.) And during that time he “heard” God tell him that he would start a church. So like myself, I wonder if he was hearing from a familiar spirit and has since been operating in the power of demons because I just could not figure out why his sermons were so good, but he sounded void of the spirit in person.

    Do not be hasty in the laying on of hands! (Or having people lay their hands on you!) He laid his hands on me to bless me one day, but his prayers sounded like that of a person void of the Holy Spirit. It was creepy.

    Beware, keep abiding in Jesus~ he takes good care of his sheep!

  9. Email From: Dave L
    Sent: Saturday, 14 April 2018 14:24
    To: discerningtheworld
    Subject: Yeshua and revelation

    I am a living breathing witness to the fact that Yeshua is here. The signs people looked for in the sky came went and were missed by many. His second coming we are already are a part of. Eventhough I dont know that we were ever left. The word of source was tucked away where it could not be corrupted or changed. Everything in the outer world can and has been changed. The bible has been changed and minipulated for years. Look to it for confirmation but , the true word of source is spoken into our hearts. The true living breathing father will speak to us in our hearts. Remember that is what Yeshua told the church a long time ago. Its in john chapter 5. He said you read the scriptures thinking they have life but refuse to come to me for life. Then he goes on to say that scripture is just his testimony. Meaning his history of works done with us. Then he says but I know you dont hear or know him because you dont know the one he has sent. You dont have his love in your heart. The center where I found Yeshua is the blue flame. Anyway would love to chat and share my revelations. Revelation is not meant to mean the end. Its is the new begining. The revealing of of truth. Hence why it is called revelations.

  10. Dear David L

    Nope, I don’t want to hear about your revelations from your Cosmic Christ and your ‘word of source’.

  11. David says:

    I dont ever say christ or Jesus. Nor was I trying to debate. Also I dont ask anyone to listen to me. I simply tell everyone to find the word inside themselves. All is beautiful. You are beatutiful. You are amazing. You are loved and perfect. May u always be blessed. I am sorry if I offended you. I just thought we were supposed to share our testimony. I guess that is not what you do. So I am sorry for assuming.

  12. David

    Well it’s clear why you don’t mention Jesus Christ, because the “christ” you speak of is another christ. This is a Christian website, we bear testimony of genuine salvation where Jesus Christ the Son of God is our Savior. We do not give testimony from a New Age occult christ where he informs us that we humans are perfect, sinless and pure because we are in fact “I AM”, evolving through reincarnation into gods.

    You said “All is beautiful” and “you are….perfect”

    Is sin beautiful? How so is it that we are perfect? Please explain.

    The Bible says:

    (1John 1:8 [KJV]) “If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.”

  13. Collin says:

    I clicked on this one just to come into the comments section and say: My first reaction when I saw the headline was “Oh that sounds absolutely heretical.” I haven’t even read the article yet, but praise God for when false teachers make it more obvious for the young and weak believer. May God help us all to be wise to recognize liars so easily every time. I for one often struggle to discern right away and can sometimes get snared for a while. I have been praying more and more. To God be the glory that he hasn’t delivered me up to some occultist yet for my youthful foolishness.

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