John Shelby Spong – Victory over Biblical Christianity

John Shelby Spong A Manifesto! The Time Has Come!

By John Shelby Spong (retired Episcopal bishop of Newark) – October 15, 2009

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I have made a decision. I will no longer debate the issue of homosexuality in the church with anyone. I will no longer engage the biblical ignorance that emanates from so many right-wing Christians about how the Bible condemns homosexuality, as if that point of view still has any credibility. I will no longer discuss with them or listen to them tell me how homosexuality is “an abomination to God,” about how homosexuality is a “chosen lifestyle,” or about how through prayer and “spiritual counseling” homosexual persons can be “cured.” Those arguments are no longer worthy of my time or energy. I will no longer dignify by listening to the thoughts of those who advocate “reparative therapy,” as if homosexual persons are somehow broken and need to be repaired. I will no longer talk to those who believe that the unity of the church can or should be achieved by rejecting the presence of, or at least at the expense of, gay and lesbian people. I will no longer take the time to refute the unlearned and undocumentable claims of certain world religious leaders who call homosexuality “deviant.” I will no longer listen to that pious sentimentality that certain Christian leaders continue to employ, which suggests some version of that strange and overtly dishonest phrase that “we love the sinner but hate the sin.” That statement is, I have concluded, nothing more than a self-serving lie designed to cover the fact that these people hate homosexual persons and fear homosexuality itself, but somehow know that hatred is incompatible with the Christ they claim to profess, so they adopt this face-saving and absolutely false statement. I will no longer temper my understanding of truth in order to pretend that I have even a tiny smidgen of respect for the appalling negativity that continues to emanate from religious circles where the church has for centuries conveniently perfumed its ongoing prejudices against blacks, Jews, women and homosexual persons with what it assumes is “high-sounding, pious rhetoric.” The day for that mentality has quite simply come to an end for me. I will personally neither tolerate it nor listen to it any longer. The world has moved on, leaving these elements of the Christian Church that cannot adjust to new knowledge or a new consciousness lost in a sea of their own irrelevance. They no longer talk to anyone but themselves. I will no longer seek to slow down the witness to inclusiveness by pretending that there is some middle ground between prejudice and oppression. There isn’t. Justice postponed is justice denied. That can be a resting place no longer for anyone. An old civil rights song proclaimed that the only choice awaiting those who cannot adjust to a new understanding was to “Roll on over or we’ll roll on over you!” Time waits for no one.

I will particularly ignore those members of my own Episcopal Church who seek to break away from this body to form a “new church,” claiming that this new and bigoted instrument alone now represents the Anglican Communion. Such a new ecclesiastical body is designed to allow these pathetic human beings, who are so deeply locked into a world that no longer exists, to form a community in which they can continue to hate gay people, distort gay people with their hopeless rhetoric and to be part of a religious fellowship in which they can continue to feel justified in their homophobic prejudices for the rest of their tortured lives. Church unity can never be a virtue that is preserved by allowing injustice, oppression and psychological tyranny to go unchallenged.

In my personal life, I will no longer listen to televised debates conducted by “fair-minded” channels that seek to give “both sides” of this issue “equal time.” I am aware that these stations no longer give equal time to the advocates of treating women as if they are the property of men or to the advocates of reinstating either segregation or slavery, despite the fact that when these evil institutions were coming to an end the Bible was still being quoted frequently on each of these subjects. It is time for the media to announce that there are no longer two sides to the issue of full humanity for gay and lesbian people. There is no way that justice for homosexual people can be compromised any longer.

I will no longer act as if the Papal office is to be respected if the present occupant of that office is either not willing or not able to inform and educate himself on public issues on which he dares to speak with embarrassing ineptitude. I will no longer be respectful of the leadership of the Archbishop of Canterbury, who seems to believe that rude behavior, intolerance and even killing prejudice is somehow acceptable, so long as it comes from third-world religious leaders, who more than anything else reveal in themselves the price that colonial oppression has required of the minds and hearts of so many of our world’s population. I see no way that ignorance and truth can be placed side by side, nor do I believe that evil is somehow less evil if the Bible is quoted to justify it. I will dismiss as unworthy of any more of my attention the wild, false and uninformed opinions of such would-be religious leaders as Pat Robertson, James Dobson, Jerry Falwell, Jimmy Swaggart, Albert Mohler, and Robert Duncan. My country and my church have both already spent too much time, energy and money trying to accommodate these backward points of view when they are no longer even tolerable.

I make these statements because it is time to move on. The battle is over. The victory has been won. There is no reasonable doubt as to what the final outcome of this struggle will be. Homosexual people will be accepted as equal, full human beings, who have a legitimate claim on every right that both church and society have to offer any of us. Homosexual marriages will become legal, recognized by the state and pronounced holy by the church. “Don’t ask, don’t tell” will be dismantled as the policy of our armed forces. We will and we must learn that equality of citizenship is not something that should ever be submitted to a referendum. Equality under and before the law is a solemn promise conveyed to all our citizens in the Constitution itself. Can any of us imagine having a public referendum on whether slavery should continue, whether segregation should be dismantled, whether voting privileges should be offered to women? The time has come for politicians to stop hiding behind unjust laws that they themselves helped to enact, and to abandon that convenient shield of demanding a vote on the rights of full citizenship because they do not understand the difference between a constitutional democracy, which this nation has, and a “mobocracy,” which this nation rejected when it adopted its constitution. We do not put the civil rights of a minority to the vote of a plebiscite.

I will also no longer act as if I need a majority vote of some ecclesiastical body in order to bless, ordain, recognize and celebrate the lives and gifts of gay and lesbian people in the life of the church. No one should ever again be forced to submit the privilege of citizenship in this nation or membership in the Christian Church to the will of a majority vote.

The battle in both our culture and our church to rid our souls of this dying prejudice is finished. A new consciousness has arisen. A decision has quite clearly been made. Inequality for gay and lesbian people is no longer a debatable issue in either church or state. Therefore, I will from this moment on refuse to dignify the continued public expression of ignorant prejudice by engaging it. I do not tolerate racism or sexism any longer. From this moment on, I will no longer tolerate our culture’s various forms of homophobia. I do not care who it is who articulates these attitudes or who tries to make them sound holy with religious jargon.

I have been part of this debate for years, but things do get settled and this issue is now settled for me. I do not debate any longer with members of the “Flat Earth Society” either. I do not debate with people who think we should treat epilepsy by casting demons out of the epileptic person; I do not waste time engaging those medical opinions that suggest that bleeding the patient might release the infection. I do not converse with people who think that Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans as punishment for the sin of being the birthplace of Ellen DeGeneres or that the terrorists hit the United Sates on 9/11 because we tolerated homosexual people, abortions, feminism or the American Civil Liberties Union. I am tired of being embarrassed by so much of my church’s participation in causes that are quite unworthy of the Christ I serve or the God whose mystery and wonder I appreciate more each day. Indeed I feel the Christian Church should not only apologize, but do public penance for the way we have treated people of color, women, adherents of other religions and those we designated heretics, as well as gay and lesbian people.

Life moves on. As the poet James Russell Lowell once put it more than a century ago: “New occasions teach new duties, Time makes ancient good uncouth.” I am ready now to claim the victory. I will from now on assume it and live into it. I am unwilling to argue about it or to discuss it as if there are two equally valid, competing positions any longer. The day for that mentality has simply gone forever.

This is my manifesto and my creed. I proclaim it today. I invite others to join me in this public declaration. I believe that such a public outpouring will help cleanse both the church and this nation of its own distorting past. It will restore integrity and honor to both church and state. It will signal that a new day has dawned and we are ready not just to embrace it, but also to rejoice in it and to celebrate it.

– John Shelby Spong
 
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Well I am sorry to tell you John Shelby, but nothing you can say can change what God says on the matter. You can tear all the verses out of the bible that you don’t like out, you can close your eyes, you can stick your fingers in your ears but the fact remains. Nothing you can say or do can change the Word of God.   “Awww there, there, don’t cry”  I know it’s hard to believe now, but one day you will believe when you meet God and HE SAYS TO YOU :  ‘I TOLD YOU SO, over here, and over here, and then there was Sodom and Gomorrah, and here, and here”
Good news is you still have time to repent and say sorry to God and accept His Son Jesus Christ as your personal saviour and you will be forgiven.  This has got nothing to do with fundermentalism and I for one certainly don’t believe the earth is flat.  I do believe that when God says homosexuality is a sin, then I am going to agree with Him and not you.
So you can proclaim your little manifesto from sunrise to sunset, all it does is show the world that you are an anti-Christian, and against Jesus Christ the Son of God.
Last question John:  Are you homosexual?
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Well this is indeed a sign of the times.

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Robbie
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Robbie

Arthur.
Of course there are many books, but a lot of truth mixed with lies too…

Darwin’s “origin of the species by means of natural selection” puts death before the fall of man. Just the cover of the book is an introduction of the lies to follow.

Indeed there is a lot of reasoning for evolution, but it is all circular. I will also pray for your family and for you…

Burning Lamp
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Burning Lamp

Sadly Arthur does not have any concept of just who God is. He is trying to put man’s capacity to reason on the same level as the Creator of the universe! That is the same lie that Eve fell for in the Garden. Jesus Christ is the same, yesterday, today and forever.He is the Alpha & Omega and His wisdom supercedes all human reasoning. How tragic for Arthur that he does not know the Savior because he believes the Bible needs to be updated to keep up with man’s “accomplishments”.

Sheugnet
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Sheugnet

I especially like how he mentions Jews, blacks and women in the same breath as homosexuals. I know that homosexuality is a sin, but I certainly didn’t know that being a WOMAN is a sin!

Mickey
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Those who who have truly received Jesus Christ and washed in his precious blood know that we live and abide in the power of the holy spirit. We do not live according to the flesh and the world’s political correctness concepts. God’s children is made aware of sin by the holy spirit and the word of God; which never changes to accommodate the wickedness of the world. If you are a homosexual and believe you are a christian, you are sadly deceived by the devil. The bible says that satan is a liar and the father of it. Bow down before Jesus Christ today and confess your sinful lifestyle and Jesus will give you the holy spirit so you will walk in newness of life. Jesus loves you and wants to you be free from hell’s damnation today.

Ezigbo
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Ezigbo

I pity Spong and all who agree with him and hold his view point…. I pray they don’t realise their end too late…..

Sharon
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Sharon

1Timothy 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:

I chuckled when I read your post. So I guess you are the final authority that has determined that Christianity must “reformulate” to catch up with the times. We must change Holy Scripture so it is more “scientific.” No one, not me, not you, not every scientist on the planet knows how old the planet Earth is. Scripture doesn’t say it’s 6,000 years old. Nor can scientists prove the Earth and the Universe are million, zillion, years old.

Be careful of the price you could have to pay to try to change true Christianity and especially the Word of God.

Other than the fact you sound as if you have never placed your faith in Jesus Christ, which is very sad; I’m still chuckling about your thinking you or any one could change the Eternal Word of the Most High God.

Arthur wrote:

“what this bishop demands is nothing less than the total reformulation of the Christian faith.”

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How is this a bad idea? The Church (Body of Christ) needs to stay abreast of the times. Christianity has to change its message as it has been been outdated by science. The world and universe are much older than six thousand years. That is all the Bishop is saying. Otherwise in the near future there will be no faith left just superstitious believers.

Martin Luther told us that the biggest enemy of faith is reason. Yet reason has got us to where we are today in the modern scientific world. To reverse Luther’s statement- Faith must then be the biggest enemy of reason. There has to be compromise between faith and reason and that is what the Bishop is saying. Interesting time’s ahead for all and sundry. You cannot deny established scientific evidence. So what do you do?