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SURPRISE! Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize!

SURPRISE! Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize!

Obama Nobel Peace Prize

SURPRISE! Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize!

“Oh really?  What a surprise!”  *said with complete lack of emotion*

I mean honestly.  I think it’s totally amazing that someone can win a prize for winning the tournament before it’s ended.  Oh wait – Obama does not know the Bible well.

Obama is surprise winner of Nobel Peace Prize

Taken from here:  http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE5981JK20091009?sp=true

By Matt Spetalnick and Wojciech Moskwa

WASHINGTON/OSLO (Reuters) – Barack Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize on Friday in a stunning decision that honored the first-year U.S. president more for promise than achievement and drew both praise and skepticism around the world.

The bestowal of one of the world’s top accolades on a president less than nine months in office, who has yet to score a major foreign policy success, was greeted with gasps of astonishment from journalists at the announcement in Oslo.

Obama expressed surprise at winning the award, saying he felt humbled and unworthy of being counted in the company of the “transformative figures” of history who had won it.

“I do not view it as a recognition of my own accomplishments but rather an affirmation of American leadership,” he said in the White House Rose Garden. “I will accept this award as a call to action, a call for all nations to confront the common challenges of the 21st century.

The Norwegian Nobel Committee praised Obama for “his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples,” citing his fledgling push for nuclear disarmament and his outreach to the Muslim world.

Obama has been widely credited with improving America’s global image after the eight-year presidency of George W. Bush, who alienated both friends and foes with go-it-alone policies like the 2003 U.S.-led invasion of Iraq.

But critics called the Nobel committee’s decision premature, given that Obama so far has made little tangible headway as he grapples with challenges ranging from the war in Afghanistan and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict to nuclear standoffs with Iran and North Korea.

Obama, who got the news of the prize in a pre-dawn call from his press secretary, now also has the burden of living up to its expectations.

LITANY OF UNRESOLVED PROBLEMS

The first African-American to hold his country’s highest office, Obama, 48, has struggled with a litany of foreign policy problems bequeathed to him by Bush, while taking a more multilateral approach than his predecessor.

Obama acknowledged while accepting an award predicated on the pursuit of peace, he was commander-in-chief of a country in two wars. “We have to confront the world as we know it,” he said.

He received the honor the same day he was convening his war council to weigh whether to send thousands more U.S. troops to Afghanistan to turn the tide against a resurgent Taliban.

Despite troubles at home including a battered economy and fierce healthcare debate that have eroded his once-lofty approval ratings, the Democratic U.S. president is still widely seen around the world as an inspirational figure.

Very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world’s attention and given its people hope for a better future,” the Nobel committee said in its citation.

But some analysts saw the award as a final slap in the face for Bush from the European establishment, which had resented what they saw as arrogance and recklessness in world affairs.

Obama will travel to Oslo to receive the prize on December 10, Norwegian Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg said.

While the award won praise from such statesmen as Nelson Mandela and Mikhail Gorbachev, both Nobel laureates, it was also attacked in some quarters as hasty and undeserved.

Afghanistan’s Taliban mocked the award.

Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid, speaking to Reuters by telephone from an undisclosed location, said it was absurd to give a peace award to a man who had sent 21,000 extra troops to Afghanistan, and Obama “should have won the ‘Nobel Prize for escalating violence and killing civilians.'”

Obama is considering a request from his top commander in Afghanistan to send him at least 40,000 more troops.

The Palestinian Islamist movement Hamas, which controls the Gaza Strip and opposes a peace treaty with Israel, said the award was premature at best.

EMBARRASSING “JOKE”

Nobel Committee Chairman Thorbjoern Jagland rejected suggestions from journalists that Obama was getting the prize too early, saying it recognized what he had already done over the past year.

“We hope this can contribute a little bit to enhance what he is trying to do,” he told a news conference.

Obama is the fourth U.S. president to be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize after Jimmy Carter won in 2002, Woodrow Wilson picked it up in 1919 and Theodore Roosevelt was chosen for the 1906 prize.

Issam al-Khazraji, a day laborer in Baghdad, said of Obama: “He doesn’t deserve this prize. All these problems — Iraq, Afghanistan — have not been solved … man of ‘change’ hasn’t changed anything yet.”

Liaqat Baluch, a senior leader of the Jamaat-e-Islami, a conservative religious party in Pakistan, called the award an embarrassing “joke.”

But the chief Palestinian peace negotiator, Saeb Erekat, welcomed it and expressed hope that Obama “will be able to achieve peace in the Middle East.”

While many Americans voiced pride, some were puzzled.

“It would be wonderful if I could think why he won,” said Claire Sprague, 82, a retired English professor as she walked her dog in Manhattan’s Greenwich Village. “They wanted to give him an honor I guess, but I can’t think what for.”

The committee said it attached “special importance to Obama’s vision of and work for a world without nuclear weapons,” saying he had “created a new climate in international politics.”

On other pressing issues, Obama is still searching for breakthroughs on Iran’s disputed nuclear program and on stalled Middle East peacemaking.

Israel’s foreign minister said on Thursday there was no chance of a peace deal for many years.

Zimbabwean Prime Minister Morgan Tsvangirai, who had been tipped as a favorite for the prize, told Reuters that Obama was a deserving candidate and an “extraordinary example.”

The prize is worth 10 million Swedish crowns ($1.4 million).

(Additional reporting by Oslo newsroom, Kamran Haider in Pakistan, Mohammed Assadi, Nidal al-Mughrabi in Gaza; Mark Denge in Nairobi, Jason Webb in Spain; Writing by Alistair Bell, Editing by Frances Kerry and Eric Beech)

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33 comments to SURPRISE! Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize!

  • Amanda

    Way to go, World! From The Jerusalem Post:

    The stunning choice made Obama the third sitting US president to win the Nobel Peace Prize and shocked Nobel observers because Obama took office less than two weeks before the February 1 nomination deadline.

    Peace and security, right around the corner. Maybe by next week?

  • Discerning the World

    Ah man, there goes my holiday *cries* hehe

  • Pooh Bear

    Are you suggesting this has something to do with the End Times?

  • Michael Anthony

    Well, here’s one for you. Arabs have won a total of 5 nobel prizes, 3 of them for ‘peace’ when in fact for 2 of them peace was declaring war on Israel. The only one worth mentioning is Shirin Ebadi, she seemed to be an iron woman. Sadat? Well he did eventually make peace with Israel – after his army was decimated.

    ’tis easy to win a nobel for peace when the peace they evaluate is nothing more than perception. A real nobel prize is for something that all humans benifit from.

    Arab nobel winners (let’s add obamanation to the list…)

    From a pool of 1.4 BILLION Muslims which are 20% of the world’s population (2 out of every 10 people)

    Literature

    1988 – Najib Mahfooz

    Peace

    1978 – Anwar El-Sadat

    1994 – Yasser Arafat *

    2003 – Shirin Ebadi

    Chemistry

    1999 – Ahmed Zewail

    Physics

    Abdus Salam

    * NOTE: Norwegian, Kaare Kristiansen, was a member of the Nobel Committee. He resigned in 1994 to protest the awarding of a Nobel “Peace Prize” to Yasser Arafat, whom he correctly labeled a “terrorist.”

    Jewish Nobel Prize Winners
    From a pool of 12 million Jews which are 0.2% of the World’s Population (2 out of every 1,000 people)

    Literature

    1910 – Paul Heyse

    1927 – Henri Bergson

    1958 – Boris Pasternak

    1966 – Shmuel Yosef Agnon

    1966 – Nelly Sachs

    1976 – Saul Bellow

    1978 – Isaac Bashevis Singer

    1981 – Elias Canetti

    1987 – Joseph Brodsky

    1991 – Nadine Gordimer

    2002 – Imre Kertesz

    World Peace

    1911 – Alfred Fried

    1911 – Tobias Asser

    1968 – Rene Cassin

    1973 – Henry Kissinger

    1978 – Menachem Begin

    1986 – Elie Wiesel

    1994 – Shimon Peres

    1994 – Yitzhak Rabin

    1995 – Joseph Rotblat

    Chemistry

    1905 – Adolph Von Baeyer

    1906 – Henri Moissan

    1910 – Otto Wallach

    1915 – Richard Willstaetter

    1918 – Fritz Haber

    1943 – George Charles de Hevesy

    1961 – Melvin Calvin

    1962 – Max Ferdinand Perutz

    1972 – William Howard Stein

    1972 – C.B. Anfinsen

    1977 – Ilya Prigogine

    1979 – Herbert Charles Brown

    1980 – Paul Berg

    1980 – Walter Gilbert

    1981 – Ronald Hoffmann

    1982 – Aaron Klug

    1985 – Herbert A. Hauptman

    1985 – Jerome Karle

    1986 – Dudley R. Herschbach

    1988 – Robert Huber

    1989 – Sidney Altman

    1992 – Rudolph Marcus

    1998 – Walter Kohn

    2000 – Alan J. Heeger

    2004 – Irwin Rose

    2004 – Avram Hershko

    2004 – Aaron Ciechanover

    Economics

    1970 – Paul Anthony Samuelson

    1971 – Simon Kuznets

    1972 – Kenneth Joseph Arrow

    1973 – Wassily Leontief

    1975 – Leonid Kantorovich

    1976 – Milton Friedman

    1978 – Herbert A. Simon

    1980 – Lawrence Robert Klein

    1985 – Franco Modigliani

    1987 – Robert M. Solow

    1990 – Harry Markowitz

    1990 – Merton Miller

    1992 – Gary Becker

    1993 – Rober Fogel

    1994 – John Harsanyi

    1994 – Reinhard Selten

    1997 – Robert Merton

    1997 – Myron Scholes

    2001 – George Akerlof

    2001 – Joseph Stiglitz

    2002 – Daniel Kahneman

    2005 – Robert (Israel) Aumann

    Medicine

    1908 – Elie Metchnikoff

    1908 – Paul Erlich

    1914 – Robert Barany

    1922 – Otto Meyerhof

    1930 – Karl Landsteiner

    1931 – Otto Warburg

    1936 – Otto Loewi

    1944 – Joseph Erlanger

    1944 – Herbert Spencer Gasser

    1945 – Ernst Boris Chain

    1946 – Hermann Joseph Muller

    1950 – Tadeus Reichstein

    1952 – Selman Abraham Waksman

    1953 – Hans Krebs

    1953 – Fritz Albert Lipmann

    1958 – Joshua Lederberg

    1959 – Arthur Kornberg

    1964 – Konrad Bloch

    1965 – Francois Jacob

    1965 – Andre Lwoff

    1967 – George Wald

    1968 – Marshall W. Nirenberg

    1969 – Salvador Luria

    1970 – Julius Axelrod

    1970 – Sir Bernard Katz

    1972 – Gerald Maurice Edelman

    1975 – David Baltimore

    1975 – Howard Martin Temin

    1976 – Baruch S. Blumberg

    1977 – Rosalyn Sussman Yalow

    1977 – Andrew V. Schally

    1978 – Daniel Nathans

    1980 – Baruj Benacerraf

    1984 – Cesar Milstein

    1985 – Michael Stuart Brown

    1985 – Joseph L. Goldstein

    1986 – Stanley Cohen [& Rita Levi-Montalcini]

    1988 – Gertrude Elion

    1989 – Harold Varmus

    1991 – Erwin Neher

    1991 – Bert Sakmann

    1993 – Richard J. Roberts

    1993 – Phillip Sharp

    1994 – Alfred Gilman

    1994 – Martin Rodbell

    1995 – Edward B. Lewis

    1997 – Stanley B. Prusiner

    1998 – Robert F. Furchgott

    2000 – Eric R. Kandel

    2002 – Sydney Brenner

    2002 – Robert H. Horvitz

    Physics

    1907 – Albert Abraham Michelson

    1908 – Gabriel Lippmann

    1921 – Albert Einstein

    1922 – Niels Bohr

    1925 – James Franck

    1925 – Gustav Hertz

    1943 – Gustav Stern

    1944 – Isidor Issac Rabi

    1945 – Wolfgang Pauli

    1952 – Felix Bloch

    1954 – Max Born

    1958 – Igor Tamm

    1958 – Il’ja Mikhailovich

    1958 – Igor Yevgenyevich

    1959 – Emilio Segre

    1960 – Donald A. Glaser

    1961 – Robert Hofstadter

    1962 – Lev Davidovich Landau

    1963 – Eugene P. Wigner

    1965 – Richard Phillips Feynman

    1965 – Julian Schwinger

    1967 – Hans Albrecht Bethe

    1969 – Murray Gell-Mann

    1971 – Dennis Gabor

    1972 – Leon N. Cooper

    1973 – Brian David Josephson

    1975 – Benjamin Mottleson

    1976 – Burton Richter

    1978 – Arno Allan Penzias

    1978 – Peter L Kapitza

    1979 – Stephen Weinberg

    1979 – Sheldon Glashow

    1988 – Leon Lederman

    1988 – Melvin Schwartz

    1988 – Jack Steinberger

    1990 – Jerome Friedman

    1992 – Georges Charpak

    1995 – Martin Perl

    1995 – Frederick Reines

    1996 – David M. Lee

    1996 – Douglas D. Osheroff

    1997 – Claude Cohen-Tannoudji

    2000 – Zhores I. Alferov

    2003 – Vitaly Ginsburg

    2003 – Alexei Abrikosov

    Let’s break that down —

    * Chemistry (30 prize winners, 20% of world total, 28% of US total)
    * Economics (26 prize winners, 42% of world total, 56% of US total)
    * Literature (13 prize winners, 12% of world total, 27% of US total)
    * Peace (9 prize winners, 9% of world total, 10% of US total)3
    * Physics (47 prize winners, 26% of world total, 37% of US total)
    * Physiology or Medicine (53 prize winners, 28% of world total, 41% of US total)

    See also data on “other Nobels”:

    * Jewish Recipients of the Kyoto Prize (25% of recipients)
    * Jewish Recipients of the Wolf Foundation Prize (34% of recipients)
    * Jewish Recipients of the US National Medal of Science (38% of recipients)

  • AdMo

    And I bet none of them appeared out of nowhere, have no background history, became president soon after apearing on Oprah, are loved by 90% of the world, get a 100 day “presidential evaluation”, a Nobel prize within 9 months. Every religion except Islam accepts him in one way or another. The only criteria and I mean only criteria that Islam has not accept him as yet is because he has not brought peace to the middle east, yet.

    I wonder where Rick Warren is? I have not heard from him in a while since his Obomination “prayer”. That was a typing error I mean ObAnation :)

  • AdMo

    Pooh Bear, instead of spending time on a new age hoslistic christian approach to the gospel of Jesus Christ, we ask that you spend time understanding the gospel of Jesus Christ based on orthodix Christian teaching as preached by Jesus Christ Himself.

    And yes we are in the last days, every genuine Christian knows this, it’s not a secret. Open your Bible. God commands you to study it to find yourself approved.

    Your last comment: 2009/10/12 at 3:26am and our reply 2009/10/12 at 2:55am

  • Amanda

    Michael Anthony:

    Stunning!

    Pooh Bear:

    Hold onto your hat!

  • cecilia

    Rick Warren is very busy. running the world (I mean the purpose-driven world) aint an easy job. latest news: 9.23.2009

    NEWS RELEASE: SADDLEBACK CHURCH TO HOST CIVIL FORUM ON RECONCILIATION, SEPT. 25

    Rick Warren Moderates Discussion with Rwandan President Kagame, Yale Professor Miroslav Volf on Forgiveness, Post-Genocide Nation Re-building

    LAKE FOREST, Calif., Sept. 23, 2009 – Dr. Rick Warren and Saddleback Church will continue the tradition of promoting civil discourse on Friday, Sept. 25, by hosting the Saddleback Civil Forum on Reconciliation, the fourth in a series of civil forums featuring high-profile influential figures discussing current significant, yet sensitive issues. Paul Kagame, President of the Republic of Rwanda, and Croatia-native Dr. Miroslav Volf, Yale professor, will share how the transformational power of reconciliation reunified their peoples after debilitating genocides. . . . “In addition to my primary calling to proclaim the Gospel message, these Civil Forums further my three other life goals: helping individuals accept responsibility, assisting the Church in regaining credibility and encouraging our society to return to civility,” Warren explained.”

    It’s been long since I heard him “proclaiming the Gospel” in public… everything is purpose driven… even in this post http://www.rickwarrennews.com/090923_civilforum.htm he can’t be mentioned without adding his title: “said Warren, founding pastor of the Orange County, Calif. mega church and author of the best-selling book, “The Purpose Driven Life.””
    http://www.inthenameofpurpose.org/chp1.htm

    Copyright © 2006 Tamara Hartzell, gives us the blueprint of the purpose driven business. People still get angry when I say I refused (and still do) too pray the prayer of Jabez. I will and do, pray my own prayer. nor did I do the Purpose Driven 40 day course: Rick Warren confidently declares:

    “The next 40 days will transform your life.” (PDL; p. 10) so God Takes 40 Days to Prepare People for His Purposes?

    It’s R.W. who placed such major emphasis on the church in statements like : “You must be connected to a church fellowship to survive spiritually.” —Rick Warren’s 40 Days of Community Workbook (Emphasis added), that most churches teach just that in our days.

    I HOPE RYAN PETER READS THIS TOO!! actually local churches are not the source of “lifeblood” that gives life to our spirit! Ephesians 4:16 says absolutely nothing like that. as Tamara H. puts it: “If our spiritual life ceased to exist because we didn’t attend a local church, then the local church would be God’s redeeming agent in salvation.”

    I’ll leave it at this; the whole deception where-in Rick Warren is involved, is too vast to discuss now. Read “the Purpose Driven Blueprint”.

    Rick Warren programmed thousands successfully. the same R.W. said: “We believe we can learn truth — I’ve learned a lot of truth from different religions. Because they all have a portion of the truth.”- Interview with Rick Warren, CNN Larry King Live, Aired November 22, 2004, Transcript, http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0411/22/lkl.01.html.
    cecilia

  • Pooh Bear

    We’ve been in the last days for 2000 years! What makes you think it’s different now to several hundred years ago?

  • Discerning the World

    Oh… ok

  • Amanda

    Pooh Bear

    The birth pangs are getting stronger and are closer together.

  • Michael Anthony

    Pooh Bear

    I don’t defend the bible – it defends itself.

    2 Peter 3

    2 that you may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us,[a] the apostles of the Lord and Savior, 3 knowing this first: that scoffers will come in the last days, walking according to their own lusts, 4 and saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation.” 5 For this they willfully forget: that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of water and in the water, 6 by which the world that then existed perished, being flooded with water. 7 But the heavens and the earth which are now preserved by the same word, are reserved for fire until the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
    8 But, beloved, do not forget this one thing, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 9 The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us,[b] not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.

    10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night….

    Pooh Bear,

    Your words are a literal fulfillemnt of verse 4.

    But the answer is this —

    Matthew 16:3
    And in the morning, It will be foul weather to day: for the sky is red and lowering. O ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not discern the signs of the times?

    It’s called knowing (discerning) the time of his coming. Like, let me me think – the parable of the fig tree – ring a bell?

  • Michael Anthony

    Let me help you out here.

    I just found this site,it seems OK from what I read.

    http://www.focusonjerusalem.com/

    They have a fairly good article on the parable of the fig tree.

    http://www.focusonjerusalem.com/israelandthefigtree.html

  • Pooh Bear

    I’m serious. Sure things have changed, but you could apply similar arguments to the events 100 years ago, and reach similar conclusions!

    Do you honestly believe Obama is the anti-christ (or an accomplice)?

  • Pooh Bear

    Michael,
    I’m not arguing that the Bible teaches those things will happen in the end. But to jump to conclusions that it’s happening right now is, I think, a little presumptuous. Paul seemed to think it would happen in his own lifetime, and many believers have thought the same all the way through history. But what if it takes another 200 years? Then will we look back and say we were wrong about Obama?

  • Discerning the World

    Pooh Bear

    >> but you could apply similar arguments to the events 100 years ago

    Difference is, many biblical prophecies were not yet fullfilled. They are now…only a few more to go.

    >> Do you honestly believe Obama is the anti-christ (or an accomplice)?

    He is something that is for sure. Not sure what, but I can tell you Mugabe was No.1 on my “dictators I don’t like list” and Obama overtook him.

  • Michael Anthony

    Pooh Bear

    Really?
    So 100 years ago Israel was back in their land? Are you actually reading these posts and the reference to prophecies and the signs Jesus explicitly stated as a sign of his coming?

    Who said Obama is the anti-christ? Accomplice? Huh?

    Pre trib Christians do not actually beleive they will be around when the man of sin is reavealed. Could you please make an actual, intelligent case for you beleif. And – huh – try and use a scriptural exegesis to support your views.

  • Pooh Bear

    Wow! You put Obama higher than Mugabe?? Incredible.
    What did he do to win that place?

  • Michael Anthony

    DTW,

    I am sure this is an old hat to you.

    Matthew 24 – Olivet discourse – although it is the same audience (disciples) Jesus switches between addressing them as representatives of the church as well as addressing them as Jews (Israel). With that in mind I would say that every pre-rapture (church) prophecy has literally been fullfilled. As for the tribulation and beyond that we have the news in advance with graphic foresight.

    Which means our Lord and Saviour could come at any moment.

  • Discerning the World

    Michael

    >> I don’t defend the bible – it defends itself.

    Oh I love that comment. In fact I think I have an old article on just this. I hope I still got it.

  • Discerning the World

    Pooh Bear

    >> Wow! You put Obama higher than Mugabe?? Incredible.
    What did he do to win that place

    He got the Nobel prize? *that was a joke*

  • Discerning the World

    Michael

    Hey, does that hat comment have any extra meaning by any chance? lol If not, then please ignore this question and make like you have no idea what I am talking about.

    And indeed Jesus is COMING AT ANY MOMENT. He told us to WATCH and PRAY and that is what we do.

  • Michael Anthony

    Ok Pooh Bear,

    Let me give you some historical ‘insight’

    When Paul wrote 2Thess Christ (that would be Jesus Christ, our risen Lord) could have come at any moment ….6 years later the Romans destroyed the temple (70 AD) – Matt 24. Do you see a problem? All of a sudden Christ could not come at any moment (although Christians should live as if he will) because there was no temple or man of sin to sit in the temple and fulfill propecies etc etc.

    Then Israel came back into their land in 1948. They are talkimg about rebuilding the temple as we speak.

    You connecting the prophetic dots yet?

  • Michael Anthony

    Pooh Bear

    >> Wow! You put Obama higher than Mugabe?? Incredible.
    What did he do to win that place? >>

    Let me give you some hints;

    Globalist agenda driven
    Abortion
    Socialism
    Spending tax payers money like a drunken sailor and accelerating the demise of the dollar and the introduction of a worldwide currency
    Throwing Israel under the bus
    Anti gun laws
    Fairness doctrine to muzzle conservative voices
    Most pro homosexual president ever (even celebrating the practice publicly)
    Obama youth movement (indoctrination of the youth – mandatory 2 months during 18-25 yrs)

    Just some hints

  • Pooh Bear

    Michael,
    I haven’t stated any case. I’m simply trying to figure out what this article is supposed to imply. Obama’s winning of the Nobel prize may have been a little “early”, but I’m struggling to see how it has anything to do with fulfillment of prophecy. Can you enlighten me?

  • Discerning the World

    Michael

    >> Obama youth movement (indoctrination of the youth – mandatory 2 months during 18-25 yrs)

    Now that I didn’t know…

  • Discerning the World

    Pooh Bear

    >> Can you enlighten me?

    We don’t do enlightening or any form of enlightenment here at Discerning the World we are born again Christians.

    You are asking way silly questions, so silly that I am thinking of again telling you to come back when you are tired of trying to provoke a stupid response from me which you can see I have been doing since today.

    When you wake up, I shall focus my attention on you again, for now I have some world news to watch – you can watch it too, it’s on tv, quite visible for all to see, the news reporters even go so far as to give the viewer BIG hints on the coming one world order. If you missed it which I am sure you might have the one world currency is out just ready to be put into use. I pray that Jesus has returned before this comes about. What about you? You want the currency first?

  • Pooh Bear

    DTW,
    So I can’t use a word that has ANY similarity with a New Age word? I wasn’t referring to that kind of enlightenment.

    I’m not being facetious, so I apologize if my questions are silly, but God knows my heart, that they are genuine questions. I feel like you’ve already pre-judged me without knowing me, without testing “the fruit”, and every comment I make you interpret through those eyes. I’m a “good ol’ brethren”, but you speak to me as if I’m a pagan!

    I also feel as if one is only welcome here if they share the same views about everything with you! I’m not saying that the One World order is not a possibility, I’m just hesitant to jump to conclusions prematurely.

  • Pooh Bear

    Michael,
    What do the following have to do with Eschatology:
    Socialism
    Anti gun laws
    Fairness doctrine to muzzle conservative voices

    And yes, as much as I’m anti-abortion etc, I see it simply as the government giving the people what they want!

  • Michael Anthony

    >>I haven’t stated any case. I’m simply trying to figure out what this article is supposed to imply. Obama’s winning of the Nobel prize may have been a little “early”, but I’m struggling to see how it has anything to do with fulfillment of prophecy. Can you enlighten me?>>

    That’s a false dichotomy.

  • Discerning the World

    Pooh Bear

    The enlightening thing was a joke.

    Secondly everyone is welcome here but after a time it gets a bit much having to repeat the same type of answer over and over again. You have a Bible, we have given you some direction. Go and search for the truth.

    And NO the Indian dot means the opening of the 3rd eye. If they were genuinely Christian they would never wear this. You can try as you might to be Christian and carry on living in sin, but it wont work.

    I have asked you questions that you refused to answer on previous posts. I see you are doing it again. You have our view as to what the Gospel of Jesus Christ is. And we know your veiws. So technically what more is there to discuss? I am not ‘changing’ to what you believe and well whatever you choose to do with this New Age Christianity thing is upto you. Follow it, don’t follow it.

  • Michael Anthony

    Pooh Bear

    You are starting from a false premise.

  • Michael Anthony

    Pooh Bear,

    I am fairly confident that you are able to answer your own questions.

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BY CLICKING THE “POST COMMENT” BUTTON FOR YOUR COMMENT, YOU AGREE TO BE BOUND BY THESE TERMS AND CONDITIONS AND ABIDE BY ALL OF THE RULES AND POLICIES SET FORTH HEREIN. IF YOU DO NOT AGREE TO THESE TERMS AND CONDITIONS, DO NOT SUBMIT YOUR COMMENT TO DISCERNING THE WORLD WEB SITE.

  1. Discerning the World owns and operates the DiscerningtheWorld.com site (the “Site”). Your use of the features on the Site allowing for submission of a “Comment” is subject to the following terms and conditions (the “Terms”). Discerning the World may modify these Terms at any time without notice to you by posting revised Terms on the Site. Your submission of a “Comment” to the Site following the modification of these Terms shall constitute your binding acceptance of and agreement to be bound by those modified Terms.
  2. By submitting a “Comment” you are accepting these Terms through your clicking of the “POST COMMENT” button.
  3. Discerning the World has the right, but not the obligation, to take any of the following actions, in Discerning the World’s sole unfettered discretion, at any time, and for any reason or no reason, without providing any prior notice:
    1. Restrict, suspend or terminate your ability to submit “Comments,” to the Site;
    2. Change, suspend or modify all or any part of the Site or the features thereof;
    3. Refuse or remove any material posted on, submitted to or communicated through the Site by you;
    4. Deactivate or delete any screen names, profiles or other information associated with you; or
    5. Alter, modify, discontinue or remove any comment off the Site.
  4. You agree that, when using or accessing the Site or any of the features thereof, you will not:
    1. Violate any applicable law or regulation;
    2. Interfere with or damage the Site, through hacking or any other means;
    3. Transmit or introduce to the Site or to other users thereof any viruses, cancel bots, Trojan horses, flood pings, denial of service attacks, or any other harmful code or processes;
    4. Transmit or submit harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, defamatory, deceptive, fraudulent, obscene, indecent, vulgar, lewd, violent, hateful or otherwise objectionable content or material;
    5. Transmit or submit any unsolicited advertising, promotional materials, or spam;
    6. Stalk or harass any user or visitor to the Site; or
    7. Use the content or information available on the Site for any improper purpose.
  5. You retain the Copyright of any “Comment” you submit to Discerning the World. By submitting a “Comment” to Discerning the World, you agree to grant Discerning the World a irrevocable, non-exclusive, royalty-free, perpetual license to use the material or commentary that you have submitted, in any medium and in any manner that Discerning the World may, in its sole unfettered discretion, choose.
  6. By submitting a “Comment” to Discerning the World, you agree to comply with the following rules concerning such submissions:
    1.  You agree not to include in your “Comment”:
      1. Any false, defamatory, libelous, abusive, threatening, racially offensive, sexually explicit, obscene, harmful, vulgar, hateful, illegal, or otherwise objectionable content;
      2. Any content that may be seen as stalking or harassing of any other Site contributors;
      3. Any content that personally attacks an individual. (An example of a personal attack is posting negative comments about an individual in a way meant to demean that person. Note that posting your opinion about someone’s ideas, doctrine or actions is not a personal attack);
      4. Any content that discloses private details concerning any person, for eg., phone numbers that have not been made public, photos that are not in the public domain, residential address that is not public, ID numbers, Social Security numbers, email addresses that are not in the public domain, etc.;
      5. Any content that you know to be false, misleading, or fraudulent;
      6. Any use of profanity;
      7. Any content including advertisements or otherwise focused on the promotion of commercial events or businesses, or any request for or solicitation of money, goods, or services for private gain;
      8. Any content that contains software viruses or any other computer code, files or programs designed to interrupt, destroy or limit the functionality of any computer software or hardware or telecommunications equipment; or
      9. Any content directly or indirectly soliciting responses from minors (defined as anyone under 18 years of age).
  7. FAIR USE NOTICE:
    1. If any part of the “Comment” is not your original work, it is your responsibility to add the name of the third party, name the book with page number or a link (url) to the website where you obtained the information.
    2. Your “Comment” may contain Copyrighted material, the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. You are however allowed to make such material available in your “Comment” in an effort to advance understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, etc.  This constitutes a ‘fair use’ of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this Site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to:http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml.
    3. If you wish to use copyrighted material from a website or any other medium for purposes to add to your “Comment” that go beyond ‘fair use’, you must obtain permission from the copyright owner. (Fair Use means you may quote from copyrighted sources, but you may not publish the whole article, book, etc., in your “Comment”.)
  8. You are solely responsible for the “Comment” you upload, post, transmit or otherwise make available to others using this Web Site. Under no circumstances will Discerning the World be liable in any way for any “Comment” posted on or made available through this Site by you or any third party.
  9. You understand that all “Comments” on this Site are pre-screened or moderated. That means that every “Comment” needs to be approved by Discerning the World before it appears in the “Comments” section.  This is not an automatic process.  Discerning the World does this for SPAM reasons.
  10. Discerning the World has the right (but not the obligation) in their sole unfettered discretion to remove any “Comment” that is posted on or available through the Site. Without limiting the foregoing, Discerning the World has the right to remove any “Comment” that violates these Terms or is otherwise deemed objectionable by Discerning the World in its sole discretion.
  11. You understand that Discerning the World in their sole unfettered discretion is not obligated and can not be forced in any manner, be it legal or otherwise to remove any “Comment” that is posted on or made available through the Site by you.
  12. When submitting a “Comment,” you will be asked to provide your name and your email address. While Discerning the World does not object to your use of a pseudonym instead of your actual name, Discerning the World reserves the right, but not the obligation, to reject, change, disallow, or discontinue at any time any submission name that, in Discerning the World’s sole unfettered discretion, is objectionable or inappropriate for any reason. Discerning the World requires the submission of your email address, but Discerning the World warrants that it will not publish your email address to an outside third party without your consent.
  13. Discerning the World does not sell or rent your personal information to third parties for their marketing purposes. From time to time, Discerning the World may contact you personally via email. Notwithstanding the foregoing, you acknowledge and understand that the “Comments” feature of the Site is designed to permit users to post information and commentary for public review and comment and thus you hereby waive any expectation of privacy you may have concerning any likeness or information provided to the Site by you.
  14. You are solely responsible for your interactions with other users of or visitors to the Site.
    1. Discerning the World shall have the right, but not the obligation, to monitor interactions utilizing the “Comments” facility of the Site, between you and other users of or visitors to the Site. You acknowledge and agree that Discerning the World, or any third party shall not be, and you shall not seek to hold them, responsible for any harm or damage whatsoever arising in connection with your interaction with other users of or visitors to the Site.
    2. Discerning the World does not verify any information posted to or communicated via the “Comments” sections of the Site by users and does not guarantee the proper use of such information by any party who may have access to the information. You acknowledge and agree that Discerning the World does not assume, and shall not have, any responsibility for the content of messages or other communications sent or received by users of the Site.
  15. The Site contains content created by or on behalf of Discerning the World as well as content provided by third parties.
    1. Discerning the World does not control, and makes no representations or warranties about, any third party content, including such content that may be accessible directly on the Site or through links from the Site to third party sites.
    2. You acknowledge that, by viewing the Site or communications transmitted through the Site, you may be exposed to third party content that is false, offensive or otherwise objectionable to you or others, and you agree that under no circumstances shall Discerning the World be liable in any way, under any theory, for any third party content.
    3. You acknowledge and agree that the Site, and the contents thereof, is proprietary to Discerning the World and is protected by copyright. You agree that you will not access or use the Site or any of the content thereof for any reason or purpose other than your personal, non-commercial use.
    4. You agree that you will not systematically retrieve data or other content from the Site by any means, and you will not compile a database or directory of information extracted from the Site.
    5. You agree that you will not reproduce, distribute or make derivative works of the Site or any of the contents thereof without the express consent of Discerning the World.
    6. You hereby agree to indemnify, defend and hold harmless Discerning the World, its affiliates and licensees, and all of their officers, directors, employees, agents and representatives from and against any and all liabilities, losses, claims, damages, and expenses (including attorneys’ fees) in connection with any claim arising out of your use of the Site or violation of any of these Terms.

DISCLAIMER OF WARRANTY/LIMITATION OF LIABILITY.

  • YOU EXPRESSLY AGREE THAT USE OF THE SITE IS AT YOUR SOLE RISK. NEITHER DISCERNING THE WORLD, ITS AFFILIATES, NOR ANY OF THEIR RESPECTIVE EMPLOYEES, AGENTS, OR LICENSORS WARRANT THAT THE SITE WILL BE UNINTERRUPTED, TIMELY, SECURE OR ERROR FREE.
  • THE SITE IS PROVIDED ON AN “AS IS” BASIS WITHOUT WARRANTIES OF ANY KIND, EITHER EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO WARRANTIES OF TITLE OR IMLPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY OR FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
  • THIS DISCLAIMER OF LIABILITY APPLIES TO ANY DAMAGES OR INJURY CAUSED BY ANY FAILURE OF PERFORMANCE, ERROR, OMISSION, INTERRUPTION, DELETION, DEFECT, DELAY, COMMUNICATION LINE FAILURE, THEFT OR DESTRUCTION OR UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO, ALTERATION OF OR USE, WHETHER FOR BREACH OF CONTRACT, TORTIOUS BEHAVIOR, NEGLIGENCE OR UNDER ANY OTHER CAUSE OF ACTION. YOU SPECIFICALLY ACKNOWLEDGE AND AGREE THAT DISCERNING THE WORLD SHALL NOT BE LIABLE FOR THE DEFAMATORY, OFFENSIVE OR ILLEGAL CONDUCT OF USERS OF THE SITE OR THIRD PARTIES, AND THAT THE RISK OF INJURY FROM THE FOREGOING RESTS ENTIRELY WITH THE YOU THE COMMENTER.
  • IN NO EVENT WILL DISCERNING THE WORLD, ITS AFFILIATES OR ANY OF THEIR RESPECTIVE EMPLOYEES, AGENTS OR LICENSORS BE LIABLE FOR ANY DAMAGES, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR PUNITIVE DAMAGES, EVEN IF THEY HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES, ARISING FROM, RELATING TO OR CONNECTED WITH THE USE OR INABILITY TO USE THE SITE OR ANY OTHER MATTER ARISING FROM, RELATING TO OR CONNECTED WITH THE SITE OR THESE TERMS.

16. These Terms constitute the entire agreement between Discerning the World and you with respect to the subject matter hereof, and supersede any previous oral or written agreement between us with respect to such subject matter.

Thank you!