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Eternal Security: NOSAS Versus OSAS (Part 5)

Green ArrowPlease read “Eternal Security – NOSAS Versus OSAS Parts 1,  23 and 4 before reading part 5

Eternal Security -NOSASvsOSASLOUIS: Continue to refrain from sin

The believer must practice righteousness if he is to remain a child of God. “What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we that are dead to sin live any longer in it?…Do you not know that to whom you present yourself slaves to obey, you are that one’s slaves whom you obey, whether of sin leading to death, or of obedience to righteousness?…” (Romans 6:1, 15-16, 21, 23). This passage treats sinning not as an accident but as an act of self-surrender. It says that if we yield ourselves to sin, it will bring death; they will again be the servants of sin, which will end in eternal death (Romans 6:16, 21, 23a; James 5:20).

TOM: Here again we may ask: To what degree should the saints not sin (practice righteousness) in order to maintain their salvation – 60%, 75%, 90% or 100%? God is only satisfied with a 100% performance and anyone who claims to have such a wonderful track record has no need of a Saviour. They do not need Jesus Christ. “If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.” (1 John 1:8). Am I encouraging Christians to sin? Absolutely not. We should hate sin as much as God hates it. Nonetheless, the bible never says that a saint should practice righteousness. A saint’s righteousness is a Person, not a deed that I do, and this Person wants to live his righteous life in and through each and every one of his saints. (1 Corinthians 1:30-31; Galatians 2:20). If I, as Paul says, no longer live, how can I practice righteousness? In fact, when I live and strive to practice righteousness it is then when I fall into all kinds of unrighteousness. Paul describes this dilemma in a saint’s life in Romans 7.

For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do. (Romans 7:19)

You can’t miss noticing the many I’s in this verse. It is full of I’s and no Jesus. That’s what happens when the “I” gets in the way.


Eternal Security: NOSAS Versus OSAS (Part 4)

Green ArrowPlease read “Eternal Security – NOSAS Versus OSAS Parts 1,  2 and 3 before reading part 4

Eternal Security -NOSASvsOSASLOUIS: James 5:19-20

Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one converts him; let him know, that he which converted the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.”

These verses discuss prayer for the brother who “err” (wanders) from the truth and falls back into sin; we must pray for our brethren who wanders from the truth because there is a very serious reason for that which has eternal consequences. The verb “err” means wander, go astray; and suggest a gradual moving away from the will of God. The word “error” (verse 20) is conduct meaning perverseness, wickedness, sin. The Old Testament term for this is backsliding and the New Testament term is “fall away” (Hebrews 6:4-6). Usually the sin is the result of slow, gradual spiritual decline, with a wilful decision in the recent past.

Such a falling away from the truth is, of course, very dangerous. It is dangerous to the backslider because he may be disciplined by the Lord. He also faces the danger of committing “sin unto death” (1John 5:16-17). In the Scripture “death” (thanatos) implies three aspects: firstly, physical death (Acts 5:1-11; 1Corinthians 11:30) when one dies and the soul separates from the body (Ecclesiastes 12:7; 2 Corinthians 5:1-8; Revelation 6:9-11); secondly, spiritual death as in John 5:24; 1John 3:14; spiritual life consists in daily communication with God who is life, so spiritual death is the separation from His blessed life and influence, thirdly, to eternal death (Romans 6:16-21, 23; James 5:20; 1John 5:16-17; Revelation 2:11; 20:6, 14) which, in respect to the natural and temporal, is called the second death and implies eternal punishment (Revelation 21:8).

Eternal Security: NOSAS Versus OSAS (Part 3)

Green ArrowPlease read “Eternal Security – NOSAS Versus OSAS Parts 1 and 2 before reading  part 3.

In reference to John 10:27-28 Louis writes:

Eternal Security-NOSASvsOSASLOUIS: This passage teaches conditional security. It says nothing about those who were once believers (repented and had faith in Christ), but who later draw back (fall away) in unbelief and willful sin to perdition. Those who use this passage to teach unconditional security are forcing it to say what it does not say, in order to support their position. Notice further explicit truth on conditional security below.

TOM: When we look at the verse in the way you do, it teaches conditional security – i.e. conditioned on continually “hearing” and “following” Jesus Christ. But, when we look at it from a heavenly perspective where Jesus Christ is seated on high at the right hand of his Father to intercede for us and to accomplish our salvation to the uttermost, it teaches unconditional security. Which is it? Jesus does not say “if my sheep hear my voice . . . . and follow me.” He made an emphatic, unconditional and categorical statement: “My sheep hear my voice  . . . and they follow me.” Why is He so confident that they hear his voice and follow Him and will continue to obey and follow Him? The answer is simple: because He who is seated at the right hand of God, knows his sheep. One can almost hear Satan hissing and whispering in Jesus’ ear and accusing the brethren: “You call those culprits your sheep whom you claim listen to and obey your voice. They are a disloyal bunch of sinners who will eventually abandon you.”  And then Jesus answering him in his authoritative voice: “No they wont, I KNOW them and I KNOW they won’t.”


Eternal Security: NOSAS Versus OSAS (Part 2)

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Please read Eternal Security – NOSAS Versus OSAS (Part 1) before tackling part 2.

Here now is part 2 in our series of five articles.

LOUIS: The Bible never speaks of people being resaved or being born a third time”

Whereas the Bible does not use these specific terms, it does use a number expressions which indicate a return to repeat the first steps of the Christian life after falling away. It speaks of reviving, renewing, of doing the first works again, of being healed from apostasy, and of being renewed again to repentance. (Read the following: Jeremiah 2:13, 17, 19; 3:12, 21-22; Ezekiel 3:20-21; 18:24-26; Psalm 73:27; Proverbs 15:10; John 15:1-6; Acts 11:23; 1Corinthians 15:1-2; Hebrews 2:1-4; 3:7-13; 6:1-9; 10:26-31, 38-39; James 5:19-20; 2Peter 2:20-22; Revelation 2:4-5).


Eternal Security: NOSAS Versus OSAS (Part 1)

Eternal Security -NOSASvsOSAS I have debated many people on the topic of eternal security among them atheists, Calvinists, Muslims, Afrikaner Israelites, Seventh Day Adventists, Sabbatarians, Charismatics and, believe it or not, even Christians.

None of them made such a profound impact on me than the one I had with a group of Christians who tried to convince a young man that he can lose his salvation. The young man actually believed that he had already lost his salvation and was so stricken with despondency, I thought he was on the verge of committing suicide.

During my conversation and attempts to convince him that a saint cannot lose his salvation, the other members of a well-known Bible forum attacked me head-on, accusing me of all kinds of things. I could sense that Satan was really doing his utmost to keep the young man in bondage to a lie so many Christians believe to be true.

By the grace of God, the dark cloud of misery and uncertainty lifted from the young man and he eventually knew for certain that he never lost his salvation. We must remember that our younger generation of brothers and sisters in the Lord are exposed to immense temptations and many of them do succumb to them.

The ensuing battle with Satan and his host can be so intense that the saint begins to contemplate suicide. “You call yourself a Christian. Look what you’ve done now. Look at you, you wretch. You’ve lost your salvation.” It is always a good thing to remind ourselves of these words:-

Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall. (1 Corinthians 10:12)

The mere thought that you are standing is proof that you may have already fallen. If you have, don’t remain there. Get on your knees, enter into the holy of holies through the blood of Christ and ask forgiveness (Hebrews 10:19-23). Then, get on your feet and continue to follow Christ Jesus. Why is Satan so keen to sow doubt in the hearts and minds of God’s saints?

His main purpose is to get you to distrust Jesus Christ, your only Saviour. If he can get you to turn your eyes away from Jesus where He is seated at the right hand of God and turn them inwardly to yourself, he has gained a foothold that can cause havoc in your life.


Lost Your Salvation? Is it Possible? (2)

Losing Your Salvation

Lost Your Salvation, Is it Possible? Understanding Hebrews 6

The main purpose of the epistle to the Hebrews was to encourage the Jewish Christians to press on to perfection by remaining faithful to the Lord without having to return to the “shadows” contained in the Levitical laws.

Under duress of the false apostles who enticed them to rely on external rites, such as circumcision, the Jewish Christians began to believe they needed to do those things to retain God’s favor and mercies, much like today’s believers who assert that steadfast perseverance is needed to retain one’s salvation and if they fail that the loss of salvation is imminent.

Unfortunately, the notion that perseverance secures a believer’s salvation turns the spiritual eyes inward to “self” and a reliance on human effort to retain and maintain salvation instead of on Christ Jesus Who is the Author (Source) and Finisher of our faith. Those who do not believe in eternal security accuse those who do believe in it of “cheap grace.” This is what Dave Hunt says of their accusation:

Those who believe in “falling away” accuse those who believe in “eternal security” of promoting “cheap grace.” The latter in itself is an unbiblical expression. To call it “cheap” is really a denial of grace, since it implies that too small a price has been paid. Grace, however, must be absolutely free and without any price at all on man’s part ; while on God’s part the price He paid was infinite. Thus for man to think that his works can play any part in either earning or keeping his salvation is what cheapens grace, devaluing this infinite gift to the level of human effort.

Lost Your Salvation? Is it Possible? (1)

Losing Your Salvation

Lost Your Salvaiton? Is it Possible? Understanding Hebrews 6

Hebrews 6 has caused much confusion among believers throughout the whole of church history, resulting in several interpretations that don’t seem to answer the pressing questions many precious children of God ask to this very day – that with regards to losing your salvation.

  1. The most common interpretation is the very strong assertion that believers can lose their salvation, generally referred to as apostasy.
  2. Some say it deals with persons who were “almost saved” but then turned their backs on Christ.
  3. others believe it describes a sin only possible among Jews living while the temple was still standing
  4. And yet others present it as a “hypothetical case” or illustration that could not really happen.

Hebrews was not written to prove that believers can lose their salvation but to encourage them to remain faithful to their Lord in even the most dire of circumstances, with the intent of gaining the rewards that Christ has in stall for them if they remain faithful. To get a more intimate awareness of the heart of the book, we need to briefly look at the purpose it was written for.


Eternal Security – Genuinely Saved, Always Saved!

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Genuinely Saved, Always Saved!

A Believer is Eternally Secure!

Is there a true and false version of Eternal Security?  Yes there is. 

1)  Was the person saved to start off with?  If not then no he is not secure in anything. He can however be sure he is going to hell.

2) The other revolves solely around being saved/born again and the indwelling of the Holy Spirit in the believers’ life because:

God has given me eternal salvation as a free gift in Jesus Christ, and it is His will that I obey Him, not in order to save myself or in order to help God save me, but BECAUSE I am already saved. It is God who provides the complete salvation. Obedience, holy living is the evidence of salvation. The Christian life is a miracle of God that is wrought from within. The power of the Christian life is the indwelling Holy Spirit, but the Christian is not passive. He is to be controlled by the Spirit (Eph. 5:18), to be led by the Spirit (Rom. 8:14), to walk after the Spirit (Rom. 8:4; Gal. 6:25), to mind the things of the Spirit (Rom. 8:5).       [Emphasis added]    — Quoted from David Clouds article below