Kim Clement – A Wolf in Sheep’s Clothing

Kim ClementIs Kim Clement a New Age Prophet?  If you’re unable to deal with issues of Bible doctrine this article will be disturbing in two ways; to those who follow such teachings and to those who hold to the Word of God correctly and are repulsed by distortions.

Kim Clement’s Biography

Kim Clement was born in Uitenhage South Africa in 1956. Kim remembers his parents telling him he would be a classical pianist. His first music lessons were at the age of five. Kim Clement describes his family as nominal Christians who believed there was a God; they did not go to church except for an occasional wedding or funeral and celebrating Christmas. They did not read the Bible or pray as a family.

At the age of nine, Kim took a serious fall when his parents weren’t home and was rushed to the hospital. He had stopped breathing when he fell, and had severely damaged his hip (excerpt from book, “The Sound of His Voice” p. 12) He explains: One day, an Anglican minister, wearing his clerical collar, came into my hospital room. He walked over to my bed and asked, “Would you like me to pray with you?” “No,” I instinctively responded, “I don’t want any prayer.” Then he looked me straight in the eye and said something that sounded quite unusual to me. “Jesus still walks the streets today, and one day you are going to need Him. If you call on Him, He’ll walk over to you, and He will touch you.” I didn’t respond to his words, and he quietly left the room…

At about ten years old, his mother had enrolled him in the Trinity College of London. He dreamed of being a great musician and performing in concerts around the world, practicing two and three hours a day, to perfect his skills in classical music.

At eleven he quit classical music and his attention turned to jazz and then rock. For the next several years he was totally engrossed in rock and roll and played in rock bands, usually with musicians much older than himself. During this time, he describes himself as being unruly and rebellious. He hated school, and was expelled from three different schools. He began drinking and using drugs, and by the age of seventeen, and became addicted to heroin.

Kim Clement - Kundilini Awakening

Kim Clement – Kundilini Awakening

Kim Clement says that he gave his life to the Lord on a street in South Africa in 1973. He describes this occurring while “suffering from a severe knife wound as I overdosed on heroin.” He was picked up off the street by an unnamed man and “delivered from strong demonic oppression.” At the time Kim Clement was a rock musician who performed in bars and clubs, after this incident he claims to have abandoned his music career and “start a new life.” The day Kim was baptized, he received an audible word from the Lord as he came up out of the water that he was called to be a minister of the gospel.

Kim Clement was uneducated because of his numerous expulsions from different schools and the only education he claims to have had was in music where he attended the Trinity College of London. He was eager to play music for the Lord because of his long hair appearance and his previous lifestyle, he was misunderstood and not accepted.

He twice unsuccessfully tried to enter different Bible Colleges. He was finally accepted into a home study Bible course through Oral Roberts University. After writing the university explaining his situation and putting a few dollars in the envelope a few weeks later he received a surprise at his door, boxes of books from Oral Roberts. He read them over and over.

Between the years 1973-76 Kim Clement attended and served in what he calls a “full gospel church.” In 1976 Kim Clement was drafted into the South African army to fight in its war with Cuba in Angola. After 12 months of service Clement went into full time ministry in 1977 as a music director and youth pastor for a Pentecostal Protestant Church. He was only there about a year then moved to Durban, Natal and joined the Full Gospel Church of God as an assistant Pastor. In December of 1978 Kim Clement married his girl friend Jane and continued serving in different positions at his Church until 1983. He believed God was calling him to be a missionary to the United States so he packed up his family and moved to America.

The “Prophetic” call

In the year 1983 Kim Clement states that the “Prophet” Bill Hamon confirmed his call to be a Prophet of God. Bill Hamon has been a subscriber to the Latter Rain movement from its inception in the late 40’s which the majority of the Pentecostal church rejected as heretical at first. He promotes the manchild sons of god doctrine. Today Hamon describes himself as both an apostle and a prophet that is now affiliated with Peter Wagner’s International Coalition of Apostles (ICA) known as the round table of apostles. Hamon states, “In 1977 God spoke to me says, “I want you to start raising up a company of prophets and start (menacing) the leadership.” Hamon wants to raise-up an army of prophets (which he has by laying hands on thousands throughout out the world), Clement is a part of this prophetic army. Hamon believes prophets can have a low percentage of accuracy not needing to be 100% correct. Kim Clement has this same theological construct with a low success as a prophet, admitting he has missed it a number of times.

Kim Clement said of his Pastor, Fred Roberts he “released me to obey this call.” Kim Clement and his wife subsequently moved to the U.S. In 1986 Kim Clement met Pastor Mike Hayes and describes it as an immediate “divine connection.” He then joined his Church after selling his home in South Africa. In 1991 he settled down in Dallas and later moved to Detroit. Three years later Clement was involved in a serious accident that broke both of his arms. He was left with numerous scars which resulted from the surgery. It was at this time that Clement claims during his recovery that “the Lord visited me with visions and I received specific instructions regarding my ministry I saw beyond the year 2000 and what would happen in the kingdom I saw a vision of people that were wounded people whom I would later call wounded warriors these are people hurt by the religious system unable to get healed because of isolation. These people loved God, yet didn’t want to attend traditional Church.” (quotations unless noted are taken from Clements web sight under “history”). After these visions, he founded a movement called ‘Warriors of the Millennium’ and the ‘Kick Devil Butt Generation.’

Clement is the President and CEO of his ministry Prophetic Image Expressions. Clement had a salary of $346,00 in 1998 out of $1,174,437 in contributions. In 2001 his ministry took in $1,296,875. Not surprising that he is not a participant of the ECFA  (listed on-

Today, many in the charismatic circles accept Clement as a prophet. Not all who believe in spiritual gifts would agree with his prophetic teaching, some are opposed to his ministry antics. Charisma magazine ran a full page ad promoting his meetings in Detroit, with a quote from one of his prophecies and the announcement, “The Light has come to Detroit!” As we look at what he believes we will find Clement is confused on the essentials, and to have such a statement of bringing the light is not quite an accurate representation

Clement is unique because of his background in music; he prophesies while singing. He is known as a singing prophet, and he rocks. His band is well trained to move with his speech and hits all the high and low notes as Clement winds the people through his passionate speeches of “abundance,” prophesying “victory,” “more,” “blessings’ and “higher places,” in his gatherings. Kim Clement can act very nervously, he often pulls his hair, fidgets, wipes his nose as he leads the service.

Kim Clement says we go from glory to glory which he defines as meaning states of existence. In a prophecy on his program shown on TBN he explained that God ignores your present need and state of existence by revealing a higher state of existence. By telling you what is available to you by saying yes. He then breaks into a rehearsed song saying, “just say Yes” (a new cliche in contrast to just say no to drugs cliche). (TBN April 30, 2002)

Contrary to Kim Clement’s unique interpretation that sounds good at first, it is not in context. Glory to glory means the transformation of the character and ways of God as exhibited by Christ to and through believers, (2 Cor. 3:18 and 4:6). We now walk in newness of life (Rom. 6:4) and are changed daily. Paul contrasts the glory that Moses had in God’s presence that faded away (2 Cor. 3:12) with what we have by the Spirit. We begin with the grace of first knowing the Lord, then as believers when we enter heaven we are brought into the likeness of Christ permanently, glory to glory (see Rom. 8:18,21, 9:23; Phil. 3:21). Then we are brought into a permanent state of glory. This may not seem like not much of a difference on the surface but it is just one of the many ways he reinterprets what scripture means.

“Clement chants there is always another you that is the essence of prophecy” (TBN Clement’s program Feb.3, 2004). Meaning that prophecy is attached to the you of the future and that is where and what you want to be. He then sings “I’m not satisfied with what I got right now, I know there’s more” To say your not satisfied, packaged with what the future holds is hardly a biblical principle. As Paul said to be content (satisfied) with what you have and where you are at whether in abundance or in lack. This is no small teaching to ignore because to not be  satisfied is to be anxious and covet something you do not have. but this is the very essence of these types of prophecies.

Kim Clements ministry is a positive one that tickles the ears of his adherents. Despite what Kim Clement says are blessings and promises to everyone, the Bible has a different story; God does not always bless but will sometimes chastise. This does not seem to be part of his policy to speak. In fact it was the thrust of the ministry of the prophets to rebuke and scold as well as to bring comfort. Isa.30:9-10: “That this is a rebellious people, lying children, children who will not hear the law of the LORD; Who say to the seers, “Do not see,” and to the prophets, “Do not prophesy to us right things; speak to us smooth things, prophesy deceits.”

Jer. 14:15: “Therefore thus says the LORD concerning the prophets who prophesy in My name, whom I did not send, and who say, ‘Sword and famine shall not be in this land’–‘ By sword and famine those prophets shall be consumed!”

If one reads about the true prophets they were giving warnings almost all the time not soothing words people want to hear. But the prophets of today, which Kim Clement is part of, are a merry band who give smooth words and knows what people long to hear. This is the attraction, along with the combination of his musical talent. After all who wants to come to a meeting and be challenged and possibly be rebuked for doing any wrong, it is the blessing everyone is seeking not the counsel that will correct, “what does God have for me.”

Kim Clement is not without his vocal critics and has had to answer allegations of being a false prophet. In an interview on TBN he responded, “You can be a wrong prophet and not be a false prophet, somebody can make a mistake with doctrine…how many Bible prophecy teachers told us things were going to happen, and took out the book of Revelation and they never came to pass and nobody said a word (ed. Note: this is not true many have). No books apologizing for this, a teacher can teach things and today I know teachers, great teachers who said I was wrong 30 years ago some mission doctrine, discipleship, today they say that was wrong. Now they were forgiven, but a prophet makes a mistake and he’s a false prophet and we must stone the guy right away he’s right out. Well this there’s that aspect of it, I could have made a mistake, let me tell you something you can.”

Will Clement say 30 years from now he is wrong, or do we have to wait that long?

Kim Clement shows ignorance on this subject. Comparing someone who teaches and another who gets direct revelation from God as a prophet, speaking as God’s mouthpiece His words to the people. These are two completely different activities. Anyone with the slightest bit of Biblical knowledge knows this. In the Old Testament God never had as severe punishment for people teaching wrong, as He did for giving false (or wrong or failed) prophecy. Prophecy is not the same as if someone is teaching on prophecy. We are always to test a prophecy by the prophet’s statements, the prophets are to judge and we are to discern what is said as well. Kim Clement is either getting his prophecy from the lord or is not getting his prophecy from the Lord. The other options are: he is inserting his own teaching, or he is hearing something outside himself that is not from the Lord. We can arrive at this conclusion because he is not only inaccurate, but the delivery and content is alienated from biblical principles and language. The Bible makes it clear God only gives a true prophet one kind of prophecy, correct prophecy; 100% of the time. Once they prophesy falsely, they no longer speak for God.

Clement explains how the prophetic works “When you do get a word there is an action expected from you, if you don’t do it you ain’t gonna get prophecy, you can call me a false prophet I don’t really care, it doesn’t matter, it really doesn’t.” (The prophetic ministry of Kim Clement, Aug, 13, 2002 TBN

So lets apply this concept to prophesy God spoke. Would Jesus have been unable to be born if Mary did not say so be unto me as you say tot he angel? Is God’s ability to make things to come to pass dependent on our cooperation or on His ability. The fact that prophecy is an exact prediction of the future, it is not a best guess.  When God said he would destroy the all breathing things by a flood would this have not occurred if Noah did not obey? Or would Noah and certain animals not have survived. Did Sodom and Gomorrah’s fate lie with Lot? When God told Abraham the future of the nation Israel did Israel cooperate to be enslaved?  Prophecy is  demonstration of God’s wisdom and power. When the tribulation begins is it dependent on us? When Jesus comes back to set up His kingdom is it dependent on what we do or what He does? When a prophet spoke of a calamity or destruction did it involve cooperation from those who heard it? It seems Kim Clement has a different explanation for everything he says.

What is a true prophet? We decide by asking, “what does the Scripture say?” Giving an argument from human reasoning is not sufficient to arrive at the truth. We can only determine the truth from what God has spoken to us. Moses said “And if you say in your heart, ‘How shall we know the word which the LORD has not spoken?–when a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the thing does not happen or come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him” (Deuteronomy 18:21-22). If a prophecy from a prophet failed to come to pass, the people were told to rid themselves of the prophet by no longer paying attention to him.

What is remarkable is the terminology used; they say their prophetic failures were only “mistakes,” not false. Jeremiah puts it this way “An astonishing and horrible thing has been committed in the land; the prophets prophesy falsely” (Jeremiah 5:30). Maybe God actually meant the prophets prophesied mistakes, because to Kim Clement and others in the prophetic movement, there is no falsehood, only mistakes.

For those who want to justify this with the common excuse that everyone makes mistakes, even prophets. I have this to say: If prophets can falsely prophesy and still remain legitimate, how do we determine who is a false prophet?

If prophets are able to make “mistakes” how can we know what is written that is still future is not a mistake? If one does not need 100% accuracy in prophecy and can be wrong, how do we know what was the right prophecy and what was the wrong one?

The fact is that prophets have always been with us, both true and false ones. In Old Testament times in Israel when the nation was a theocracy, it was very serious matter to speak on behalf the Lord to the people. Today it is accepted with much less seriousness in the church. Essentially, there were two groups of prophets in Jeremiah and Ezekiel’s day, and the largest group was the false prophets who always spoke of good things of victory, blessings and rescues. It’s no different today.

There is no doubt that Clement is talented on the ivories, however what he sings and how he sings should be questioned. He will play the same tune and words over and over again like “I’m completely satisfied when I hear your voice,” I hear your voice is repeated over and over. One message he sang “I hear your spirit” umpteen number of times. This is typical subconscious convincing that goes on in his meetings to prepare the people for what he is going to prophesy. The crowd follows his lead and gets into “the spirit” and after a constant repeating he breaks into prophecy numerous times in his singing presentation.

Kim Clement’s Theology

Clement does say that he believes in the trinity and the baptism of water as an outward sign of an inward change. Some other points would be agreeable as well. Does this mean everything he says is wrong? Of course not, but the wrong is still there and cannot be ignored, because it is very wrong.

The foundation of a true prophet is right doctrine, but for one to have this they must be students of the Word.

Kim Clement admits that he was rejected from at least two different Bible colleges and received most of his early Biblical education and training at Oral Roberts University which I believe explains at least in part much of his unbiblical and often confusing theological teachings. This also explains his view of prophecy.

Oral Roberts [who himself claims to be a Prophet] is personally responsible for some of the most outrageous and absurd teachings in 2,000 years of Church history [see Oral Roberts on this site] and although its not entirely clear just how much influence ORU had on Clement. I think its safe to say it certainly couldn’t have helped him formulate orthodox Christian Bible views. Having Bill Hamon call him to be a prophet does not help either as Hamon’s concepts are Latter rain teaching.

Clement states “We want you to sing to Satan,” he then makes a comment of people being offended by this. After a short teaching about Jesus and the temptation he has everyone sing over and over…”I don’t turn the stones to bread to find out who I am, I just believe him.

Clement also says when Moses saw God’s back it does not mean back it means the year after in time. (Oct. 22, 2002) This is not true at all, it means his glory passed by likened to an “afterglow,” the after effects of his going by. Moses did not see God as He is fully, but was allowed to see His passing glory, in this His name was proclaimed, because something of his nature was made known.


In an Interview with Matt Crouch on TBN Clement had these gems to say–let me say something to you. Most of you know that when you were sinners, you didn’t have to be told of your sin. You were aware of your sin all the time. You didn’t have to be told“… Clement goes on to say, “He investigates himself and for the first time in his life, finds that there’s something good inside of him, because the church and the gathering should be a place where you discover the greatness and the treasure of God that’s inside of you, not the bad thing… So, in other words, when they come into our presence, for the first time in their life they hear, they’re saying ‘there’s something beautiful inside of me. There’s something beautiful, there’s something, I know there’s something. I’m investigating, and for the first time in my life I’m finding that yes, there’s a chance for me, there’s a hope for me.’.. for the first time in their lives they’re finding ‘There’s something inside of me that I never knew existed,’ and they fall on their knees and worship God.

Under the heading of Doctrinal belief on Kim Clements website he explains at length exactly what he believes concerning many of the essential teachings in Christianity because some have had questions. He states in the beginning that, “As you read on you will find out that my beliefs are totally scriptural. My interpretation may differ from some of the traditional “Hocus Pocus” but it is still within the confines of our fundamental beliefs.

Are they Scriptural? This quite a different view than anyone taught over the centuries. The simple reason is that it is not the Bibles definition of what is in man. Despite calling some of the traditional views as hocus pocus, it really is the reverse. Clement believes this treasure is not something that is put inside you when you are born again by the Holy Spirit but it is already contained inside and we discover it, we release it.

Kim Clement-Don't have To Be Born Again

Kim Clement-Don’t have To Be Born Again

Kim Clement explains in his own words concerning the teachings of sin, grace and salvation. “I thought that Christianity was based on a relationship resulting from grace. My idea that each person is born with a treasure in their spirit is mocked, and I am accused of being a new age prophet because I will NOT focus on their sin but rather on their treasure”[emphasis his] ……. “I know how a sinner feels because I have been one”……..I do not believe that you must be born again to obtain salvation…….you cannot and will not make a disciple out of a sinner who has been introduced to Jesus Christ on the basis of their sinful inheritance only.

We need to look at his statements carefully to see if he is speaking correctly. Many other quotations could be cited from Clement but these should suffice. Without a doubt, Clement in just a couple of paragraphs has distorted some of the most fundamental and essential teachings within Christianity. Jesus said you must be born again so Clement is against the words of Jesus (Jn.3). Its not a choice but a necessity, and the Greek language is clear it means from above; in other words it deals with God’s Spirit regenerating man’s fallen sinful spirit to be alive and in relationship with Him. There is no other way.

We are not dealing with semantics but core doctrinal issues. If you are wrong on one of the key doctrines, it will affect the others.

Kim Clement: “I am accused of being a new age prophet because I will NOT focus on their sin but rather on their treasure.”

The BibleClement claims that a person’s treasure that we all apparently possess within us is more important to realize than a person’s sinful nature. However, the Bible contradicts Clements teachings. There is only one thing that separates mankind from God; our sin. Jesus said I have come to save sinners. He also said only those who know they are sick need a physician, not those who are well. In fact the very reason Jesus Christ died for humanity is to present us before God without sin and blameless in his sight. It’s because of what Christ has done that justifies us before God, not discovering some dormant “treasure” within us waiting to be activated through belief in Him. There is absolutely no teaching from Jesus about finding any treasure within oneself. The only times Jesus mentions a treasure is when he says “Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal; but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven” (Matthew 6:19-20) and  “A good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart brings forth evil. For out of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaks.”( Luke 6:45) None of these are relative to what clement is stating. This kind of teaching was from the Gnostics that were enemies of the gospel and Christianity. Every true prophet focused on sin to have people repent, false prophets will avoid this to be accepted by the people.

According to the Bible we don’t have a treasure in us, we have SIN in us.

In John’s Gospel he explains that Jesus is “the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world” (Jn.1:9). John was addressing those who claimed to be a messenger’s (of light) of God (especially the Gnostics who held that mans spirit was good and not fallen). The Holy Spirit is to bear witness to every man’s fallen human spirit to bring that light who is Christ Jesus into a person’s heart. The thrust of John’s words is that Jesus is the uncreated God not the human soul that is a spark of divinity or God already in man. That we walk in darkness, we are children of the Devil (having the nature of sin) and as sinners we need to pass from death to life by having a rebirth from God’s Spirit coming in and giving life to a dead spirit in sin.

Clement is well aware of his differences, for this reason he states he is accused of being from the New Age persuasion; and this is exactly what “New Agers” believe. I speak from former experience. Being in the movement for many years I easily recognize what he is saying. I was in it, and know the interpretations and terms used. Whether Clement has a background in this does not matters, for what he is teaching is not Christian orthodoxy, but his own private interpretations on many scriptures.

Clement’s emphatic statement, I will NOT focus on their sin but rather on their treasure stops someone from having salvation the Biblical way. Without a focus on this fact, one cannot admit being a sinner and they cannot ask Christ to be the savior of their sins by his shed blood; for He came to save sinners. This is the only way into the kingdom of God. “The sin question must be settled for any new life to be bestowed” (W.E Vine 1 Jn.4). To admit ones sinfulness means one is humble themselves, and call upon Jesus as their savior, recognizing He is the only way and they make Him Lord over their life. To deny this is to say, “I don’t need a savior” from my sin. Clement says, one does not need to be been introduced to Jesus Christ on the basis of their sinful inheritance only. We don’t have a sinful inheritance but a sinful condition, to have Christ’s inheritance WE MUST DEAL WITH OUR SIN.

Kim Clement states that he doesn’t focus on sin, but the Bible makes it clear that its our sins which separate us from God; the importance which Clement places on a persons “treasure” is pointless if we first don’t take care of the sin problem, by accepting Jesus as our saviour.

Paul says Rom .7:8 “But sin, taking opportunity by the commandment, produced in me all manner of evil desire.” Rom. 7:18-22 “For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh) nothing good dwells; for to will is present with me, but how to perform what is good I do not find. For the good that I will to do, I do not do; but the evil I will not to do, that I practice. Now if I do what I will not to do, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me. I find then a law, that evil is present with me, the one who wills to do good. For I delight in the law of God according to the inward man.” Clement may say well this treasure is in our spirit not our flesh. But the fact is our spirit is what separates us from God because it is fallen and in sin. Again nowhere did Jesus or the apostles teach to go on a discovery within.

It seems Clement would not be able to read the first epistle of John because John concentrates on how we are still sinners needing to confess our sins to our great high priest every time we sin, only sinners still sin. Kim says I used to be sinner, but John says he who says they have no sin is not walking in the light (the truth of God’s word) and is calling God a liar. Because we are to confess our sins, because we sin.

By this teaching alone we find Clements teachings on how to be a Christian as unscriptural.

The Bible warns in Isa. 5:20 “Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness.’ Is not a treasure  which would be light a substitute for the darkness (sin) that is there?

Most in the New Age Movement accept Jesus as an enlightened master, someone who discovered a treasure within him and raising his consciousness, but most importantly, they deny their sin. The new age does teach of a God potential within us that is supernaturally activated. They, like Clement, believe that all God’s treasure is already inside waiting to be released by a technique or by some type of self-discovery. For Clement it is by believing in Jesus. So their objective is to turn us within, toward the Light, within each one of us where the good is waiting to be released. This was what the Gnostics in the early taught as well. A spark of the divine was left in everyone to be discovered.

New Agers believe the Christ potentials are already within needing to be activated. As New Ager Barbara Marx Hubbard “You all have the same master from within. That master is me, your higher self, the Christ within each of you” (Barbara Marx Hubbard The Revelation p. 243) New thought practitioner Charles Fillmore taught, As Jesus realized and taught, “the kingdom of God is within you” “His kingdom is within man” p.67. That man “must claim the supreme inheritance before he can enter into the mighty mental and spiritual forces that are released from the kingdom of God within man“p.36 (Christian Healing Charles Fillmore)

Clement believes his message of finding what is within is the way the church will yield results. “The church, with its prophetic mantle can actually win a lot more people to the Lord because of the idea that we are presenting right now, and that is that every one of you were born and formed and sent upon by God for something great. The prophetic makes you aware of something that is already present in you that you’ve not seen.” His message also contains the flattery that we all are destined for something great.

To further show his message is focused on this on Praise The Lord (TBN), February 4, 1997 Dead Being Raised, Creative Miracles: in an interview on TBN …. Everyone that’s born, God has placed something special inside. It’s our responsibility as preachers of the New Millennium to bring out the treasure that’s already there.”

Kim Clement- Recreation The Gospel

Kim Clement- Recreation The Gospel

 I’m telling you there’s going to be some ignoramuses coming to meetings, into our meetings, the New Millennium church, that’s not focusing on the sin and trying to force them to repent and make them afraid because they’re going to go to hell, and they’re going to discover ‘there’s a glory, there’s a beauty inside of me’ that only Christ can bring out by the power of His breath and His resurrection. And that’s what way the church is going. That’s the New Millennium church. Let me tell you something. It’s going to go out and when people come into their presence they’re going to be aware of something that they’ve never been aware of in their lives. Beautiful.

This new Millennium church seems to differ with the church that Jesus started. Clement is one of the preachers of the New Millennium church who has a mission to bring out the treasure that’s already there. The new age concept of Christ within. A number of new agers prophesied for the end of the 20th century that they would see the church change. They would bring their disciples in to influence the church. Theosophist Alice Bailey wrote in The Externalization of the Hierarchy, “…Eventually, there will appear the Church Universal, and its definite outlines will appear close of this century.” The Church should take the great basic doctrines and (shattering the old forms in which they are expressed and held) show their true and inner spiritual significance. The prime work of the Church is to teach, and teach ceaselessly, preserving the outer appearance in order to reach the many who are accustomed to Church usages. Teachers must be trained; Bible knowledge spread; the sacraments must be mystically interpreted, and the power of the Church to heal must be demonstrated” (Alice Bailey, The Externalization of the Hierarchy, 1957).

Kim Clement-Genuine Christians Are Menace to Society

Kim Clement-Genuine Christians Are Menace to Society

Now we will compare Kim Clements teachings with the traditional “Hocus Pocus “he belittles, the Bible itself. What is his solution to getting right with God?

Kim Clement: “I thought that Christianity was based on a relationship resulting from grace” (He then presents his idea of not needing to be born again)

The BibleProbably the most important and emphasized teaching in the entire Bible is God’s grace upon humanity. Christianity is about grace, but to receive God’s grace that is salvation one must agree with God in our wrong standing with Him. The book of Ephesians makes it clear that our relationship with God is a direct result of His grace upon us “In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace” (Eph. 1:7). But grace is never given to those who do not admit their sin. In verse 13 we read that, ‘”In Him you also trusted after you heard the Word of Truth, the Gospel of your salvation, in whom also having believed you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise (vs. 14) who is the guarantee of our inheritance.”

Notice grace is given to those who admit they are sinners and believe what God has said about their condition. “But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love were with he loved us even when we were dead in sins, has quickened us together with Christ [by grace you are saved] and has raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus for by grace are you saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works lest any man should boast” (Ephesians 2:4-9). By eliminating being born again as the result of believing the gospel, we then default to gaining salvation by the treasure that is already in us; then it is of ourselves.

Clement says, “I do believe that every human being must repent in order to be right with God, but the method that Jesus used in reaching them is not being applied today. He touched the unseen part of man. The treasure that God placed there is accessible through obedience to the cross.”

Did Jesus die on the cross so we can go within and discover a treasure that was already there? There are natural talents in us but it is the Holy Spirit is the one who gives spiritual gifts and talents. Is Clement assuming the Holy Spirit is already in man without being born again? This does not make any sense in the biblical model of sin being dealt with by His blood on the cross.

Concerning people like Clement who would downplay God’s grace through the gospel, in 1 Cor. 15:1-4, Paul tells us the Gospel message he delivered is in its entirety That “Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures. Was buried and resurrected. This is the content of the Gospel that Paul preached for one to be saved- there is only one Gospel. This is what Paul tells us to stand in; yet Clement wants to avoid the gospel that Paul preached. The fact is we can’t have true faith without believing we are sinners or there is absolutely no reason to come to the cross. In Rom. 5:9: “Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from wrath through Him.” One is saved by the grace of God through the blood of Jesus Christ. “the blood of Jesus His Son cleanseth us from all ” 1 Pet.1:18-19: “knowing that you were not redeemed with corruptible things, like silver or gold, from your aimless conduct received by tradition from your fathers, but with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot.” God forgives sin on that basis of the blood of Christ. The Bible tells us that our New Covenant is based on Christ’s blood(Heb.9:18) which washes away our sins, not by discovering a treasure inside themselves.

 How to Enter the kingdom

Clement says “Entrance into the kingdom is impossible without sight. you have to see it, vision is a very, very important. prophets bring vision to the people. Prophets bring sight to the people they let them see the future, they let them see themselves in the future because you look a whole lot better than you look right now in the future did you know that, most of you don’t believe that. But you look a whole lot better than you do right now. So where is it, the futures right inside of you, everybody say the futures inside of me. So its right there, so in other words the future is here right now but your going to be transformed into what’s living inside of you cause…” His musicians have rehearsed well, so when he says certain words his music group breaks forth singing a funky beat repeating the phrase “your somewhere in the future and you look much better than you do right now” (The prophetic ministry of Kim Clement, Aug, 13, 2002 TBN).

So what is Clement saying, we need a prophet to draw our future from what is already inside us. This is his consistent teaching– that it is all inside you, before you are saved, just as the new age movement teaches, but again this is not the teaching of the Bible.

Clement states, “I believe in reaching the lost according to the biblical concept, not man’s deception” (Doctrinal belief). I have listened to Clement enough and never heard him speak on the gospel in this way– Jesus’ blood was shed on the cross for your sins, He died and was resurrected bodily. That we need to believe on His sacrifice to be saved from the penalty of our sins. In fact he denies this as the way and speaks around it.

Salvation is explained by Clement as “Because first of all you seek the kingdom… say the word seek, once you have sought the kingdom you see the kingdom. And once you see the kingdom you enter the kingdom that you saw. And once you enter the kingdom you possess the kingdom that you entered and then you inherit the kingdom that you possessed” (The prophetic ministry of Kim Clement, Aug. 13, 2002 TBN) .This is exactly like his doctrinal statement, “The Kingdom within is simply the domain of God demonstrated through us. There is no physical place to enter the Kingdom of God. You SEEK the Kingdom; you SEE the Kingdom; you ENTER, you POSSESS and you INHERIT.” (Doctrinal belief)

Interesting that Clement makes a point that you must see it. Jesus said unless you are born again you cannot enter the kingdom of God after He said to Nicodemus you cannot see it unless one is born again. In other words only those regenerated – born anew will enter it, not those with the fallen nature of Adam, this is what He meant by seeing it. For he gives the example of the wind and the spirit, you cannot see it literally, but can see its affect. We enter in through Christ by the New Birth, and there is a literal future Kingdom to come. There is a spiritual aspect to the Kingdom, which is God’s rule, in the heart of every believer. This is an invisible spiritual kingdom. Jesus explains in other places that the kingdom will come to earth, when He comes back He will physically present to rule, it will one day be physical.

Kim Clement: “I know how a sinner feels because I have been one”

The Bible: Because of Kim Clements New Age theology of activating his “treasure” by belief in Jesus, he now apparently believes he was a sinner in the past which does imply he is not now; is he sinless now? The Bible however calls anyone who says they have no sin “self deceived.” To say we were once sinners is not accurate, we are still sinners because we do still sin.

Been a sinner or still a sinner? John 1:8 “If we say that we have no sin we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.” We are still sinners, Paul said so even at the end of his life. John who was closest to Jesus certainly teaches this.

We can break down John’s correction of the Gnostics in 1 Jn.1:8-9 Verse 8. Profession of sinlessness-self deception-not of truth living a lie. Claiming to live without any sin shows that one is deceived in regard to their present human condition. John refutes the error that we have no sin nature, by using the word sin in the singular sense. It is not just committing sin but the principle of sin. This would encompass sin in both a general sense, and sin in a specific sense, including every description. To admit that we have no guilt, no sinfulness means we have no need of the cleansing blood of Christ. For it continues to cleanse us as we confess our sin.

1 Jn.1:9 Confession of sin- brings divine cleansing, no confession and divine cleansing is denied; there is no removal of guilt and condemnation.

1 Jn.1:10. Denial of being a sinner- is tantamount to calling God a liar- then we have no revelation of the truth. Our goal is not to sin, but Scripture never says we are no longer sinners.

John’s epistle is addressing the Gnostics who denied the sin nature. John says to say such a thing “and the truth is not in us.” This is building on verse 6 it is a worse condition than “not doing truth.” The truth which is contained in the whole body of Christian doctrine; the revealed counsels and will of God. To claim sinlessness is to be void of truth and removed from reality.

1 Jn.1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His Word is not in us (1 Pt.1:23) because for one to enter into the kingdom they must humble themselves and admit they are a sinner. Ps. 32:5: “I acknowledged my sin unto Thee, and mine iniquity have I not hid: I said, I will confess my transgressions unto the Lord, and Thou forgavest the iniquity of my sin”

Kim Clement: “I do not believe you must be born again to obtain salvation.”

Recently Clement also said “When you’re born again the Bible doesn’t say that you are saved. The Bible says that when you are born again you see the kingdom it doesn’t say that you are saved even though salvation takes place and rebirth causes you to see the kingdom of God.” (The prophetic ministry of Kim Clement, Aug. 13, 2002 TBN)

So you get to see the kingdom being born again according to Clement but have not received salvation.

Which is it? He is confused. He says both at the same time. If the act of being born anew with God’s spirit does not equal salvation, one can only wonder why God would give someone His spirit to live their life through. Of all the statements Clement makes, this one absolutely crosses the line from biblical orthodoxy to outright confusion. There are many things Clement teaches that fall into this category, however this one is the most serious. The Bible is crystal clear about how one obtains salvation. Numerous passages could be cited however these will settle this issue clearly.

John 3:3: ” truthfully I say to you, except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.” 1 Peter 1:23 ” being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God which lives and abides forever.” This Word of God is the written word, not a new word from a modern prophet.

The Bible clearly teaches that a relationship with our creator depends on us being born again which means that we accept Jesus Christ as our Lord and saviour who died for our sins. He seems to think one can completely bypass this and still have a relationship with Christ. This vital truth is replaced with a discovery of what is inside.

Clement make it clear what he means, “I believe in Salvation according to Grace, which is a gift from God. I believe that confession of Jesus Christ and calling on Him for salvation allows you eternal life. I believe that you are born againafter salvation.”

Eph. 2:8: “For by grace you have been saved through faith” Faith in what? The gospel, when we hear it then we can call upon the Lord. How? By grace. So if we are saved through faith that comes by grace then Clement is wrong. This process is clearly demonstrated through the book of Acts. The basic biblical concept is that born again is salvation, not a separate event from it afterwards. This is just confusion to say salvation is different then being born again. Can one see the kingdom of God and not be born again yet? This is just a reshuffling of bible teaching. Titus 3:5-7: “according to His mercy He saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit, whom He poured out on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior, that having been justified by His grace we should become heirs according to the hope of eternal life.”

Eph. 2:4-5 “But God, who is rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved).” 1 Cor. 15:1-4: “Moreover, brethren, I declare to you the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received and in which you stand, by which also you are saved, if you hold fast that word which I preached to you– unless you believed in vain. For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, and that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day according to the Scriptures” 1 Cor.1:18 tells us it is the cross that saves, for the gospel is the power of God for our salvation.

Eph 1:13: “In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise” This is the very thing clement is saying does not happen. By believing you receive salvation and the Holy Spirit (which regenerates you- this is called born again).

James 5:19-20: “Brethren, if anyone among you wanders from the truth, and someone turns him back, let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save a soul from death and cover a multitude of sins.” This is the ministry of the New Testament priesthood is to turn those in sin to the truth, woe to those who speak in the name of the Lord and do not do this.

Clement says of preaching on hell “they have used a perverted doctrine to gain followers by preaching fear and manipulating them, at the same time pocketing large amounts of money by the merchandising of a lie. My focus is on one, not the other… You can’t force people to love Jesus, yet threaten them with hell if they don’t.”

True we are not to use hell to manipulate people, but there is a right motivation to fear an eternal judgment, even Jesus used this. Jesus spoke on hell often. Is it wrong to warn people of their future if they don’t repent? Jesus didn’t think so, He spoke on it, often warning the people. I wonder if Jonah had the wrong message from God telling the people destruction will be their future if not for repentance? Would they have repented and seen God’s mercy if it was a positive message like Clements? New age teaching avoids hell; it also teaches that we already have what we need inside us and it needs to be activated, as Bill Hamon his senior prophet says, “They called it my part of my ministry in the 60’s was to get everybody loose and liberated praisin’ the Lord in the dance and shouting. And so I preached and got ’em all activated.” He explains that he “started seminars and conferences and training sessions to teach, train, activate, mentor and mature people in the gifts of the Spirit. The Lord showed us that we can teach, train, activate people in prophetic ministry.” “The Protestant movement bought the revelation how to activate people the gift of eternal life. The Pentecostal movement brought the revelation how to activate people in the gifts of the Holy Spirit. And the Prophetic movement brought the revelation how to activate people and get ’em loose and free and flowing in their gifts and in the prophetic ministry.”

Clement claims “You cannot and will not make a disciple out of a sinner who has been introduced to Jesus Christ on the basis of their sinful inheritance only. The sinner wants something that he does not have. To approach them on the basis of their sin and condemning them to Hell, will only increase their contempt or else it will manipulate them into making a decision in order to survive the flames of Hell. Although we know that hell is a reality and sin is their snare, the way Jesus approached the sinner was through His perception of their need and the potential that was inside of them.

Clement reacts to those who criticize him by saying “My idea that each person is born with a treasure in their spirit is mocked, and I am accused of being a new age prophet because I will NOT focus on their sin but rather on their treasure. Unfortunately for my accusers, I also have evidence from the Word of God that assists me in backing up this belief.” Here is his example “after Jesus spoke life to Nathaniel he fell down and worshiped Him. Jesus spoke about the Kingdom of God opening and angels ascending and descending hereafter. The Kingdom of God was inside of Nathaniel; therefore Jesus had unlocked the spirit of that man and given him access to the Kingdom within.”

This is his evidence? To use this verse to say the kingdom was in Nathaniel when it does not say this at all is a dead giveaway of a Gnostic viewpoint, not a Christian interpretation, this is not handling the word of God correctly. To reinterpret Scripture in such a manner is like the Gnostics did, it becomes whatever you want it to. In his book The Superbeings New ager John Randolph Price “Along with those who come forth already evolved, it seems to me that many people have this potential within them” (p.16). “I know the Supermind is within each individual.” (p.17) although Price uses new age methods to gain access it still has the same concept, Clement just calls it something different. Price quoting another man states “The most important thing to learn is that within every person, whether in this dimension or another, is a presence and a power-the same Presence and Power through which this universe was created” (p.32-33). You can call it a light, spirit, the human soul, higher self and even treasure, it does not matter is all the same.

2 Cor. 4:6-7: “For it is the God who commanded light to shine out of darkness, who has shone in our hearts to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ. But we (who are born anew) have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellence of the power may be of God and not of us.”

We find the scripture saying the light shines into us to give us knowledge of Jesus, it is not of ourselves. It is not already is in us and is brought out. We are in darkness until salvation. Prior to this passage Paul explains 2 Cor. 4:3-4 “But even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing, whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them.” Clement has it backwards and for one claiming to be a prophet this is quite a surprise. The gospel is not an entry to illumination or knowledge of the human spirit but to have Christ come and live inside you, regenerating, bringing back to life the dead human spirit. It is put in us by God, it is His Holy Spirit that is the treasure, not the fallen human spirit.

Clement states, “Only when I was introduced to Jesus did I become aware of the fact that I had something precious in my spirit. When I met Him, I felt good about myself. I was aware of the fact that I had to change, but what was fascinating was that I felt like I could become a new creation when I met Him. My spirit was dead unto sin, but once I was alive in Christ, I had access to the treasure within me. What is this treasure within me? The treasure within me is my pre-ordained destiny and my inheritance. This was the inheritance that Jesus granted to me at the cross, based upon my acceptance of His sacrifice.”

This is Gnosticism, to discover a treasure within ourselves, he didn’t discover his sin, that he was a sinner but had a treasure. Yet he does say his spirit was dead, but he pours a completely different meaning into it. This is far from the biblical teaching of the apostle Paul who said I know in me dwells no good thing.” Paul who had a radical conversion, being a prior murderer of Christians wrote in Rom. 7:17-18: “But now, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me. For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh) nothing good dwells; for to will is present with me, but how to perform what is good I do not find.” In anything we do it is always described as “To this end I also labor, striving according to His working which works in me mightily” (Col 1:29). It is His power His work through us, not ourselves; it is not our spirit but His. Paul says he still has the fallen nature that can work through the flesh.

Clement justifies his position of a treasure inside us already by reinterpreting “Ephesians 1: 4: “..just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, It also states in Ephesians 1:11 that “in Him we have also obtained an inheritance, that was predestined according to the purpose of Him.” In other words, what we carry inside our spirits throughout our lives is the predestined inheritance only accessible through our acceptance and obedience to Jesus Christ. As a sinner you carry it without obtaining it or “seeing” it because you are blind. As a Christian who has been redeemed (saved), you obtain it (your predestined inheritance) by being born again.”

Contrary to Clements view, predestination does not mean we have anything of God in us until we are born again by His Spirit. (It also involves God’s foreknowledge) We are not in Him until we believe the gospel, 1 Cor.12:13 then we are put in His body and He is put in us, thus uniting us in Spirit. Clement makes it clear that we need an illumination to see what we already have.

He also uses the women at the well “Jesus also said, “If you knew the gift of God and who it is that asks you for a drink, you would have asked Him and He would have given you living water.” Please note that He said something unusual to an adulterous woman, “The water that I shall give will become IN YOU a fountain of water springing up into everlasting life.”

Again, Clement makes the Scripture to say what he wants it to. John 4:14 Jesus said, “the water that I shall give him will become in him a fountain of water springing up into everlasting life” Jesus gives the water, it comes from Him not us. John 7:38-39: “He who believes in Me, as the Scripture has said, out of his heart will flow rivers of living water. But this He spoke concerning the Spirit, whom those believing in Him would receive; for the Holy Spirit was not yet given, because Jesus was not yet glorified.”

Clement insists, “I do not believe that you must be born again to obtain salvation. As I have explained in the preceding paragraph, I believe there is a distinction. The Bible clearly tells us that “whosoever calls upon the Name of the Lord shall be saved” and “whosoever believes on Him shall have everlasting life.” When Nicodemus approached Jesus, he came with a hungry heart declaring that “no one could do these signs that You do unless God is with Him.” Jesus was a demonstration of dominion that no one else had, and Nicodemus was inquiring about it. Nicodemus was not asking how to be saved.”

Maybe Nicodemus did not ask, but Jesus certainly offered it to him with one of the most detailed explanations in Scripture. To deny this is to deny the Biblical new birth by faith in the gospel that Jesus explained to Nicodemus.

Clements states, “BEFORE Jesus died on the cross, He told Nicodemus, who was saved according to the law [at that time]; “Unless one is born again, he cannot SEE the KINGDOM OF GOD.” Jesus was not speaking about the salvation that would come because of His sacrifice on the cross. He was referring to seeing and inheriting the Kingdom of God.”

Was Nicodemus saved? Jesus told the people to believe in Him as the Messiah to be saved.  Later on in the chapter, Jesus went on to explain how salvation would come when He said to Nicodemus, in John 3:16, “God so loved the world that He gave his only begotten son, that whosoever believes on Him [Jesus] should not perish but have eternal life.” He was explaining the way that salvation would come. Prior to that, He was telling Nicodemus how to see and inherit the Kingdom of God.

To be saved one needs the Spirit. Paul says it is the proof that one is Christ’s. All you have is sin in you before one is in Christ, not treasure.

In fact the work of the Holy spirit to the unbeliever is  “He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:  of sin, because they do not believe in Me.” ( John 16:8-9). This is something Clement says he will not address.

Clement by this statement shows why he believes in the concept of the treasure in you. “I believe that only after salvation do you qualify to see, inherit and possess the Kingdom of God, which is inside of you.” “This is the same Kingdom that the Pharisees were inquiring about in Luke 17:20-21: “Now when He was asked by the Pharisees when the Kingdom of God would come, He answered them and said, ‘The Kingdom of God does not come by observation, nor will they say “see here” or “see there”! For indeed the Kingdom of God is within you.'”

“This treasure sounds similar to the occultist Levi Dowlings channeled book “find the house of God; it is within the soul (40:7 Aquarian Gospel of Jesus Christ by Levi Dowling ) “This kingdom is not far away, but man with mortal eyes can see it not; it is within the heart.” (29:19 ibid. )

Clement makes the same mistake the New Agers make (and some cults). Jesus was not saying the kingdom was already inside us needing to be released or activated to life. In this passage it was the Pharisees that asked the question of when the Kingdom would come. Surely Jesus is not saying the Kingdom is within them! But according to Clements theology of a treasure inside everyone, it would mean exactly that. The Greek word points to Him as the kingdom in Greek-entos. It means the kingdom was in their midst, among them, He Jesus Christ was physically present and wherever He is the kingdom is. That is why he told us to pray your kingdom come.

But Clement also reinterprets “Your Kingdom come, Your will be done ON EARTH as it is IN HEAVEN” to mean — “This is not encouraging us to pray for one event, but a continual flow of the Kingdom coming, in order for us to perform His will ON EARTH as it is IN HEAVEN. The Kingdom within is simply the domain of God demonstrated through us. There is no physical place to enter the Kingdom of God” (Clement’s Doctrinal belief).

This again is wrong. As already stated there is a spiritual aspect to the Kingdom, which is God’s rule, in the heart of every believer today. This is an invisible spiritual kingdom. In this way, we enter in the Kingdom. There are two aspects to the kingdom, one is that those born again are citizens, translated from the kingdom of darkness to light (Acts 26:12-18). The other, which Clement neglects is a literal kingdom, a messianic rule by Jesus that will commence by His Second Coming. Jesus explains in many places that the kingdom will come to earth when He comes back and is physically present to rule, it will be literal. Jesus said before Pilate, “If my kingdom were of this world my followers would fight.” He will be physically present to rule from Israel for 1,000 years and the saints will co-reign with Him. This is the “true kingdom” on earth that we are to be patiently waiting for the king to establish in his timing. A literal kingdom is coming, Paul spoke of this Kingdom in a future tense (1 Cor. 6:9; 15:50; Gal. 5:21; Eph. 5:5). 2 Peter 1:10-11 also speaks of the Kingdom in a future tense. This kingdom is entered in by humility not by taking the world and destroying Satan’s kingdom down by force.

One can read the book of Daniel and Revelation to see how God explained this to us. Dan.7:21-23: “I was watching; and the same horn (little horn) was making war against the saints, and prevailing against them, “until the Ancient of Days came, and a judgment was made in favor of the saints of the Most High, and the time came for the saints to possess the kingdom.” V.27 “Then the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdoms under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people, the saints of the Most High.” When does this happen, at the 2nd coming. The Church is not ruling when Christ comes again, for Jesus comes back to break the ruling kingdom at this time when He returns (Daniel 2:44).

If what Clement says is true then Scriptures like these make no sense “When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the holy angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats. And He will set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left. Then the King will say to those on His right hand, ‘Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.”

Clement also says when you have the kingdom “Satan is not concerned about whether or not you are going to heaven. He does, however, tremble at the thought of a Christian obtaining “perception” [spiritual sight] because of spiritual knowledge. Satan knows that once this happens, he is again bound and cannot operate freely. He has no power over the individual, over families, communities, regions, businesses and even over Nations if enough people operated with ‘Dunamis” (Doctrinal belief).

Satan does not care if you go to heaven! Of course he does. He wants to take as many as he can to hell with him. To say he has no power over the individual, over families, nations etc. if we operate with enough dunamis, implies we can take over and be immune to anything he does. The Bible teaches he is unable to have power over any Christian who walks in the spirit and prays and applies the word, we already have the victory individually if we obey. Yet we will always be spiritually attacked as long as we are in the world, just as the apostles were.

All this is not surprising when clement says such silly things as “I don’t want gold dust, I want gold bars…now” (Oct. 22, 2002). “Our blood type has changed from 0 positive to JC positive” (TBN Clement’s program Feb.3 2004)

Eschatology and Warfare

Clement is very focused on breaking the power of Satan and practices the “new type” of spiritual warfare “Your people stand before you tonight satisfied, satisfied that you have once again shattered the dreams of demons and raised the hopes of your people. Just by a few utterances we have received the promise of God, the promises of God are yea and amen, everyone says yea and amen, say it again, (people) ‘yea and amen’ say it again (people) ‘yea and amen.'” (2001 Clements program TBN)

“I believe that we are the body of Christ and He is the head. He gave us the power to spread the Gospel, overcome demons, and disciple the Nations.”

Yes this is true in a certain sense, but how far does one take this? His overcoming demons is done by prophetic utterances and binding them.

Do we complete the job and then Jesus comes back? That’s what his senior prophet Bill Hamon believes, but it is not what the Bible teaches. Clement hold to his own variation of dominion, kingdom now teaching. He sings overcome, overtake, occupy until he comes, Clement says it means you’re going to take over. Clement explains ” The kingdoms of this world will shall become the kingdom of our God understanding this, that whatever is controlled by the world is actually going to be transformed in the kingdom of God, so whatever you see out there that you’re calling obnoxious and evil has the potential to become the kingdom of God” lets take media , its evil isn’t it, yea it is but that is the kingdom of God its going to be translated (sounds like this) its going to be an infiltration into those regions and that’s where we are going to work from within out not trying shout from the outside to get it to change but that’s what I believes going to happen. So you see anything right now that you don’t like that’s making you mad whatever kingdom it is whether its in the sports world, arts, the economic world that is going to become the kingdom of God.” (The prophetic ministry of Kim Clement, Aug, 13, 2002 TBN)

Clement makes these telling statements on the 2nd coming “I do not agree with some modern eschatologist and some of the erroneous dispensational teachings that suggest we are on a holding pattern so that Jesus can return to complete the job that we never finished.”

So then who completes it if he does not? We do! Any prophet that speaks about the kingdom now (dominionism) without Christ’s coming is a FALSE PROPHET.

In fact Clements Doctrinal Statement says, “I believe in the 2nd Coming of Jesus Christ. I believe in the fact of meeting Him in the air, but for a different reason than to escape from the wrath of the beast.” (Kim Clement, Doctrinal Statement September 26, 2001)

We all know we will be changed and glorified when Jesus comes but is it wrong to long for His coming and wanting to escape the coming tribulation and the beast who kills the saints? Are we supposed to be looking forward to this? Definitely!

Kim Clement- Don't Focus On The Rapture

Kim Clement- Don’t Focus On The Rapture

Well Clement tells us what he really thinks, “How many of you are tired of hearing about Jesus coming back? Nobody will says yes of course, because we think its blasphemy to say, well what’s wrongs with Jesus coming back. I know, I’m very exited about him coming back and I feel we need to take our mind off him coming back because we don’t know when he’s coming and we try to tell people when he is coming, and I don’t think he knows himself when he’s coming, just joking, OK, he said the Father knows anyway, he probably knows now. I don’t want to hear about Jesus coming back I want to hear about the kingdom coming. Jesus is coming back it’s a fact but its the most irrelevant thing to preach, because preaching it, there’s nothing to preach about. What are you going to preach on for, for for an hour about Jesus coming what’s it going to look, you don’t know what its going to look like. What’s it going to sound like, going to sound like a trumpet uh what can you say. But you can preach about the kingdom and let me tell you something about the kingdom...” (The prophetic ministry of Kim Clement, Aug, 13, 2002 TBN)

Can one be excited about the second coming and also deride it and tell us not to focus on it. Is it irrelevant to preach? The “hope” of the New Testament is “looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ” (Titus 2:13). Jesus and the apostles all said to watch, “Watch therefore, for YOU KNOW NEITHER THE DAY NOR THE HOUR IN WHICH THE SON OF MAN IS COMING.” Jesus comes for His Bride unexpectedly, “LIKE A THIEF IN THE NIGHT.” However, the bride is not taken by surprise if she is prepared and watching for Him.1 John 3:2-3 promises that “When He is revealed we shall be like Him for we shall see Him as He is, And everyone who has this hope in Him purifies himself, just as He is pure.” He who has “this hope” is looking forward to the Lord’s return, cleanses themselves (keeps himself from the pollution in the world). Instead Clement wants the church to fight demons and take over the world system and make it the kingdom of God.

I believe that His coming is for a triumphant and glorious church, not a bunch of passive, backbiting, heresy hunters who cause division.

Who is really causing the division? Those who teach contrary to the word,  which has already been pointed out.

Clement also teaches “God’s word contains miracle-working creative power! It has the ability to create something from nothing. In fact, the moment God speaks something to you, it is already a fact because with God there is no time. In the beginning of time, God spoke the world and all of its surroundings and properties into existence. Today, wonderful things still happen when God speaks. He does not speak something into your life that you already have, but something that you do not yet possess. Speaking His word actually initiates the thought into existence and vocalizes God’s intent for that situation. He has promised that His Word would accomplish the thing He sent it to do. “So shall My word be that goes forth from My mouth; It shall not return to Me void, But it shall accomplish what I please, and it shall prosper in the thing for which I sent it.” (Isa. 55:10-11) (The above is taken from excerpts from “The Sound of His Voice” by Kim Clement, from Prophetic Image Expressions).

Clement utilizes what we would identify as word faith teachings in his teachings “speaking his word actually initiates what God wants to accomplish into existence and vocalizes God’s intent for that situation.” This statement and other variations can frequently be found in many New Age circles. It is also found in the prophetic movement with the new prophets such as Dutch Sheets, who believed by speaking words into the heavenlies it will change the atmosphere. It is one thing when God speaks, in this he is correct, but to claim the same ability to man even if we recite his word does not bring something into existence. Clement comments: that many leaders have asked me to share these visions (he had in ’93), where he describes having tremendous visions for five hours … when I came and I shared a little bit with my wife and my mouth was shut and the Spirit of the Lord said to me, “You are not to share this until ’97. This is not to be spoken about” because only when it’s spoken out, then it is released, because God creates as He speaks, and so God said this is not to be spoken.”

Clement describes “When you hear the voice of God it is a voice that…sounds so familiar, someone you have known for a long time… the biggest problem is to distinguish between God’s voice and your own. God has to use your thought patterns and your voice. We learn by trial and error. To know the voice of the Lords is by faith as well. There is always a constant fight between the flesh and the Spirit.” (Kim Clement TBN broadcast 4/14/94)

I would have to disagree that God’s voice is something we are all familiar with, someone we know. Neither does God use your thought patterns or your voice, He is not limited by or dictated through our human nature. Clement is really pointing to our own heart and soul according to the Bible. When God spoke to the prophets they knew it was God. The prophets must have been able to distinguish the words of this voice from his own heart, from their own personal soul or spirit. This is the only way he would be capable to confidently and accurately speak to the people in the name of God the words given him. The only example we have of this is with Samuel who was young and never heard the voice of God and mistook it at first for another, Eli.

I realize that as a new believer one would learn to distinguish the Lord’s voice from others, but this would be done by becoming familiar with the Scripture. You would never be able to tell God’s voice if you are listening to new prophets words that claim to be from the Lord. It is not the sound of the voice per se but what is being said, the content. Kim Clement claims that as a prophet of God we learn by ” trial and error” to discern if what was said to him in his ” thought patterns” are really from God or not. Now that word error is the one we should notice and be concerned about. As already mentioned, a true prophet of God will always be free from all errors when pertaining to the message that God entrusts him to speak. Now does that mean that a true prophet of the Lord will be perfect in all aspects in life, certainly not, however concerning the message itself, a true prophet will always be 100% correct. If a true prophet can “miss it sometimes,” and then get it right sometimes then it would be impossible to detect a false prophet, wouldn’t it? This is not like playing baseball and striving to get over a 400 batting average.


Kim Clement has had visitations from a false Jesus figure and preaches that everyone must have these visitations – this is unbiblical.  Jesus said we are to believe by FAITH ALONE.

Kim Clement- Appearances of Jesus

Kim Clement- Appearances of Jesus

A list of Kim Clements False Prophecies

After learning about Clement’s doctrinal conflicts with Scripture we should now look at his prophecies, which become a product of wrong doctrine on core issues.   Editors comments are in blue. National School Of The Prophets, Mobilizing The Prophetic Office Bill Hamon, 5/12/2000, Session 11

Bill Hamon who is Clement’s senior prophet prays “Now, Lord, I ask you right now to put that catalytic germinating activating bringing forth anointing in everyone here and let it start working that everyone here before the year is out will be flowing like a river in the prophetic.”

And flow it does, unceasingly. Scripture says 1-3 prophecies at the most but there seems to be no limit to prophesying by the new prophets.

(Quotes taken from the video, “Trinity Broadcast Network, A Temple To The Gods and Goddesses.)  On the TBN, Kim Clement repeats ideas like,

“We are going to kick some b—- in the new millennium.” And at least once, he said, “We are going to stick spears up the b—- of the Philistines.”

He is supposed to be prophesying when he said those words, which should make anyone question this because God does not speak in such vulgar terms in the vernacular of today. In fact Clements prophesying ability is encapsulated by this type of style and delivery.

This was recorded a month or more before at TBN, Nashville, Tennessee, and Aired December 31, 2000.

Kim Clement: “There’s been a time for Democrats.. and there’s been now a time for Republicans.. actually I think it’s time for a THEOCRACY!.. I think it’s time for some divine intervention.. I think it’s time to forget about Democrat OR Republican.. or Bush or Gore.. or Bore or Gush!.. FORGET ABOUT THEM!.. God said.. I did this whole thing.. because I want people to know.. that there is NO President, BUT the PRESIDENT of heaven.. who’s GOING to rule this nation from the year 2001.. I’m going to be ruling.. for God says.. I have designated THIS time to be Mine.. says the Lord.. THIS.. IS.. YOUR.. TIME!.. says the Spirit of the Lord.. hallelujah…”

The only nation that EVER had a theocracy with God being their ruler was Israel, nowhere in Scripture is there a hint of any other nation being ruled like this until Christ comes back to rule all the nations. It should be obvious to all that this prophecy didn’t happen. God does not call himself the president of heaven and this is doubtful He would use such terminology to express this, sorry this is way off. Praise the Lord, 9/3/2001  from

TBN interview by Dean Brown: What is the prophetic word concerning the Middle East? I mean, is there a specific prophetic word that you are giving now? I mean, you gave a general word that the Islamic nations would come to Christ, but is there a specific time frame that God speaks to your spirit about?

Kim Clement: “Yes, well some of it I can’t share now, of course, but 2002 is when I saw this huge thing happening because of something that happened between America and China, funny enough, that would take place and then – I saw that eight years ago – and then as a result of that I saw the surrender of masses of wealth coming from the East to the United States of America and the West”.

Well has this happened? No. How obvious of a false prediction does one need to know that Clement is not a prophet like the Bibles prophets. Does it matter to those trapped by their words that it failed?

Jewel Grewe points out On the TBN program, this particular “prophet” Kim Clement, actually said that the Christians will be a superhuman powerful force that will grind Satan into the ground. The very topping on the cake was that the Word of God when used was twisted. For example, Matthew 16:16-18, “Peter … said, Thou art Christ, the Son of the Living God. And Jesus … said … flesh and blood has not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven-and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of Hell will not prevail against it This scripture was interpreted on this program as meaning, “Christians must get into revelation from the Word.” Yes this sounds very good. However it is how “the Word” is defined that is so troubling. By the “Word,” this “prophet” means a fresh prophetic voice, or revelation experienced subjectively apart from the literal Bible revelation. He intimated that for Christians to survive they must build on new subjective revelations and experiences. This concept makes the written Word of God of no effect, especially if this new revelation is put on a par with scripture … So the Prophet continues, “…and upon this rock of revelation, I will build my church. There has to be a fresh revelation for the church today to built on, and the Gates of Hell will not prevail against the rock of this fresh revelation!”…Matt Crouch’s enthusiastic response was, “The Word that we heard as children is not fresh revelation and is not applicable for today. It isn’t any good for the warfare today … we are building on Christ and Fresh revelation.” (Discernment, March/April, 1993, “Prophets Etc.’ by Jewel van Der Merwe).

Clement does not have an inclination to hold to the old so he promotes a fresh revelation that will keep the church from being taken over. The fact is, the fresh revelation will actually bring a takeover of the church from the enemy not withhold it.

Prophet Kim Clement December 19, 1997 Detroit Flame Kim Clement: “And therefore, salvation is coming says the Lord in a swift manner. But before it does, before the year 2000, I will strike to the very core the defiant forces that have risen against My people. I will strike them down to nothing. They will be as nothing. And they will say, look one minute we were strong, one minute we were powerful, look we have been stricken down. Because Babylon the Great is great fallen, is fallen.” Babylon the Great is fallen! Did it happen? Before the year 2000.  No. Prophet Kim Clement Dec. 16, 1995 New Life Church Kim Clement:  “I pray for Detroit city that, God, You would send forth Your flame to the four corners of the earth. I prophesy on behalf of the Lord God Jehovah. From this city I will prophesy to the nation. I will send forth my flame to the north, the south, to the mountains, to the west and a flame shall come from this City.”

Who prophecies on God’s behalf? In the new age they constantly refer to flames and fire for cleansing upon areas and cities. In Scripture God never says he will send flames to areas unless it is for judgment, something that seems to be missing in Clements prophecies. Remember when the sons of thunder wanted to call down fire upon the people. The only flames that appeared after Christ left was a one time occurrence at Pentecost.

Prophet Kim Clement February 3, 1996 New Life Church Kim Clement: “God says, there shall be a tremendous outpouring of My Spirit. People of God, listen to me for if you do not heed, you will not be a part of it. If you do not see it, you will not be a part of it. I have raised up in this end time even those who will declare His righteousness as the oracles of God as Hosea and a Haggai. I have raised up a Habbukuk. I raised up the ones who will rebuild the temple in its former glory and Nehemiah that will not be afraid of Sanballat. He will not be afraid of the ones who have stood before him and said, “You will not build this place.” For God says I will rebuild the temple, but not only that, it shall be rebuilt with those who will build with one hand and have a sword and shield in the other hand for they will not be afraid, says the Lord.”

Does God say he will raise up new prophets like those who wrote the Scriptures? Where? Certainly not in the Scripture. Does God ever compare one prophet to another like Clements prophecy? For those who follow the “new” prophets they don’t need the Scripture to justify this kind of talk. Who are these new prophets that are just like the Old Testament prophets? Other Christian Gnostics like Rick Joyner. The next temple built is to be for the antichrist to make desolate, God does not build it and neither do we. God has and continues to build a spiritual temple; we are spiritually already a temple built by God and each person is another brick added as they repent and come to know Jesus through His gospel. Jesus said I will build my church,” we do not build it. What kind of prophesy is this that goes against Scriptures teachings?

July 25, 1996 Prophet Kim Clement Kim Clement:  “I will even take the rabbi’s, even take the people that are dressed in the cloaks and garments. They will come out and say there is only one Lord. His name is Jesus! It’s Jesus! I will even allow my Spirit to baptize them in the very sanctuaries. I will even go into the temples, and I will fill them with my Spirit. And don’t let anybody tell you that I cannot do it, says the Lord. I can go to the temple any time I like. I can go to the Jewish places anytime I like. I can go to Mount Zion any time I like. I will go wherever I want to.”

(I’m sorry but this does not sound like the God of Scripture, who boasts in this way about moving wherever he wants to, sounds like human nature to me)

Kim Clement:  “But that’s not all! But that’s not all! He says, I’m going to go way beyond and even go into the Christian Science church. I will go to the Scientologists. I will even go to the Jehovah Witnesses. And they will go from JW to JC in the house! For God says, I’ll take the Jehovah Witnesses, the Christian Scientists, I will even take the psychics, and fill them with my Spirit. You know why? You know why, says the Lord? Because I’ll go wherever I want. I’ll go wherever I want. But listen – I’m about to take a trip to Israel.”

This is Biblically wrong. God will take repentant psychics, Jehovah Witnesses, and Christian Scientists not those who practice it. Again this is missing the element of repentance from sin and hearing the gospel as a means to be saved. Remember he believes there is this treasure inside everyone to be released.

Kim Clement:  “I’m about to take a trip to Israel,”

God boasting he can do what he wants; speaking in our modern genre makes this suspect of being from the Lord.

Clement goes on, “And the Spirit of the Lord says, when that happens, there will be an invasion of my blood into the territories that would never be holy, but shall become holy. I will take the holy places which are actually unholy, and I will lift them up. I will declare, this is NOT holy. I will tear down the idols and their gods. I will tear down the spirits of Allah.”

Invasion of his blood? Nowhere does God speak in such a manner, but this is typical charismatic speech. Have the idols of Islam been removed? Not even close. Although many a false prophet has prophesied a great revival in Islam, it has not taken place. There are enough biblical reasons why this cannot happen. The bottom line is that Clement is way off in his prophesying and it has little substance and is irrelevant to the Bible.

Prophetic Word Kim Clement Detroit Regional Meeting Sunday, January 19, 1997

Kim Clement:  “You will not be terrorized by the enemy of plague that will try and come upon this nation. God says the kingdom of light will survive and the kingdom of darkness will be shaken and the people will be afraid and they will come to salvation as a result of a need, and that need will drive them to the cross. I’ll even take the Buddhists, I’ll even take the Muslims, I’ll even take the Hare Krishnas, I’ll even take the New Agers. I’ll go into the houses, I’ll go into the churches and I will raise them up and they will become people of God and they will be filled with my Spirit. Get ready, because the kingdom of darkness will be shaken, but the kingdom of light will survive,” says the Lord.

Over and over we hear God is going to do these incredible things with those in the cults and other religions but they never happen. We are the ones that are supposed to be witnessing for this to happen, when in history has God just flew over by his spirit and people like this are saved? If we want them to be saved we need to be equipped and witness to them.

Kim Clement: … “The Jesus-type revival that took place in the 60s and the 70s – the Charismatic movement. The faith movement that took place in the 70s and the 80s. The governmental church that took over and decided that this was the way to do it, even those that were in discipleship. God says not one, not one are as significant in terms of what I’m going to be doing. Not one of them is as powerful as what I’m going to do. Not one of them is going to feel what I’m going to do. None of them did what this one is going to do. That was nothing compared to what I’m going to do now. In other words, if you can think of any revival, whether it be the Azusa Street revival or the 1948 restoration, or whether it was the healing revival, or whether it was the Charismatic movement, God says every one of them accumulated together will be nothing compared to the one that is about to take place at the turn of this century that will literally rock not one nation, not two nations, but every nation in the earth will be shaken by the spirit of conversion that is about to come upon the earth,” says the Lord.

The Charismatic movement, the faith and healing movement. The past movements are compared to what God is going to do. I can say this Clements prophecies are consistent. Does God does compare moves of His Spirit with each other, some of these movements are filled with false teachings! Clement prophesies about the largest revivals in history taking place all over the world and continues to do so. The turn of the century came and went and without this greater revival than all others. Now certainly there has been a steady increase in conversions to Christ in particular areas that have not heard the gospel before, and we praise God for this work, but nothing irregular has taken place on the scale that Clement has promised in the last five -six years since he said this, especially by the turn of the century. Certainly every believer in Christ hopes at the thought of something like Clements

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43 Responses

  1. Kay says:

    Thanks for putting a lot of work into these articles. Appreciate that you use the Bible as your authority. Keep up the good work.

    I am so sad that much of this rubbish comes from my home country. Sad part is that many Christians overseas will think if it comes from America it must be right. Everyone has to check these things out with God’s Word. I don’t care where it comes from we all need to compare it with the Word of God.

    And this I pray, that your love may abound yet more and more in knowledge and in all judgment; That ye may approve things that are excellent; that ye may be sincere and without offence till the day of Christ.-Philippians 1:9-10

  2. Kate Akele says:

    As we say here in Nigeria, na wah! Seems to me the sheeple love to have it so! Hosea 4:6 at play here big time!

  3. Betty Harmon says:

    I never have agreed with Paul Crouch to have someone like Km Clement on the air. Surely Paul is not that desperate! There is something evil about Kim’s program and I cannot explain it. I saw him on TBN where there were several guests and he acted like a space alien. You could see that he behaved very differently than everyone else. It was almost as if he was extremely uncomfortable just setting there. I just have never felt good about him.

  4. Betty Harmon says:

    Lets just word it like this. BAD news

  5. Redeemed says:

    Betty, Paul & Jaqn Crouch embraces all kinds of false teachers, Clement being only one of them. The list is endless and TBN is absolutely corrupt to the core. If you put any stock in it, start to evaluate what their programming. Some of it may sound good on the surface, but it is laden with leaven and error. They try to make themselves look good by associating with Franklin Graham, but if you look deeper you will see the problems with that as well.

    On the TBN schedule you will find a Roman Catholic priest, Dominionists, ecumenists, Prosperity teachers, etc.

  6. Nathan says:

    The Bible says that Jesus was the only human that did not sin; that means that there were many legit prophets in the Old Testament that sinned. Just as a Christian can be “false” it does not neglect that they are truly part of God’s flock. So being wrong in a perdiction does not make you false prophet. A true prophet is one who points to Jesus. Kim points to Jesus. Now, he may not always predict everything accurately. But if you have to have all the right teaching to be “true” then every human, other than Jesus, is “false.” And we are all damned.

    So the author of this site: you don’t seem to understand grace or the cross, or the New Testament for that matter. Faith in Jesus is what makes you “right” and “true” not your actions or words. So he can say everything “false” except for Jesus and he is “true.” And if there are pastors and teachers today, then yes there are apostles and prophets too. Notice the Bible says: there will be false prophets. Why put a label of false if every one that claims to be a prophet is false? It would say “prophets will arise” not “false prophets..”

    Oh, God in his greatness has not “judged” anyone yet; perhaps its too early for you to do so as well?

    So I think your words are false; I can’t say whether or not your right with the Lord through the blood of Jesus….

  7. Nathan

    Technically sinning and prophesying falsely are 2 different things Nathan. ALL legit prophets in the bible NEVER prophesied falsely. False prophets prophecy falsely because of sin in their lives. They are not genuine Christians because of sin, therefore they lie (prophecy falsely). So technically, yes it’s sinning, but because of a bigger problem.

    Read this to understand the office of prophet in bible times and today:

  8. Troy says:

    With all due respect to everyone, I was reading the comments on the Kim Clement article that links to this one.

    Several of you made accusations that the gift of prophecy has ceased OH but I beg to differ.

    If you truly believe that then please, PLEASE give me a reason to dis believe this scripture

    Act 2:17 (KJV) And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
    Act 2:18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:
    Act 2:19 And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:
    Act 2:20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come:

    This is spoken by Peter quoting Joel on the day of Pentecost.

    Now why would the gift of prophecy cease when Christ came…yet God said, in the last days BEFORE the coming of the Lord? (talking about the 2nd coming here notice the mention of wonders in the heavens and on earth blood fire and all that)

    2 Peter 3:8 ‘But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.’

  9. Troy

    Acts 2 is part of Joel 2 – please read this article to clarify fully. Your Sons and Your Daughters Will Prophesy, But Not Yet…


  10. Martin Horan says:

    It’s interesting how many people are passionate for signs and wonders and miracles.
    I admit that I am too. I pick up the Bible and when I read it I am reading the Word of God Himself. Imagine that! Now that’s a real and irrefutable miracle.
    And it is FULL of prophecies, many of which have passed already, so I know the rest in this wonderful Book will come to pass. These prophecies authenticate God’s sovereignty, they equip humanity for the days in which we have lived, live now and will live in the future and they help to spare lives and save souls.
    It’s full of real signs and real wonders and that itself is a real miracle.
    This book–THE Book–reveals to me God Himself and His Son and His Holy Spirit and how I can relate to them and they relate to me. Talk about miracle!
    It is astonishing that I have this book in my home and can read it whenever I want. Actually, that’s another miracle.
    ALL of this Book is given by inspiration of God for doctrine, for reproof, for correction and for instruction in righteousness so that the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished in good works [2 Timothy 3:16:17].
    It tells me how to spot religious quacks, spiritual charlatans, false prophets, and the devil’s servants masquerading as angels of light.
    It also tells me that the prophets were until John [Luke 16:16]. And Revelation 22:18 and 19 are also worth checking out regarding the warnings on false prophets adding to or taking from its prophecies.
    The list goes on and on and on of all the wonderful promises and gifts in it–The Book–for me and anyone else who believes them and appropriates them.
    So, when some guy comes along telling me of the signs and wonders he’s experienced I go back to The Book and remember I Thessalonians 5:21 and I John 4:1 and I heed those two Scriptures. They remind me put such a guy–or gal–to the test. And when I do and see that what they say does not tie up with The Book, there is no contest. The Book is right and they are wrong. They are like a man stumbling about in the pitch darkness.
    What surprises me is that I meet people who call themselves Christians who do not do as those two above Scriptures command. They listen to men and women whose words blatantly contradict The Book. Some of them even get quite angry when the unscriptural things these charlatans say and preach are pointed out to them.
    Sadly, put the words of those false prophets and masqueraders as angels of light above God’s Word which–as the Psalmist tells us–God magnifies above His Own Name. That means they are making these people their gods. I sometimes wonder if they realize that they are doing so and therefore making themselves idolators.
    They are trusting in man when The Book tells us not to [Psalm 146:3].
    The Lord Jesus Christ Himself says that an evil and an adulterous generation LOOKS FOR a sign, though signs sometimes FOLLOW. We are not to seek them but to walk by faith and not sight.
    It is a tragedy that the followers of these mere men believe their signs, wonders and prophecies–the products of fallible imaginations–when they can have the real thing. That’s the Bible–which contains the Truth, the whole Truth and nothing but the Truth.

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  12. Jeanne says:

    I was recently introduced to Kim’s ministry by a friend of mine who sent me a link to one of his videos, and I have been watching his broadcasts online for about a month now. I admit I am saddened to read this article, because I have enjoyed listening to Kim, and there is a lot of what he says that I agree with; especially his support for Israel.

    It is true that a lot of people have been wounded by a legalistic and unloving church, and Kim seems a refreshing change from all that on the surface. I believe non-Christians should be accepted and loved as they are by the church, and then let the Holy Spirit deal with their sin instead of us insisting they conform to our ways BEFORE we let them in. The body of Christ is too divided by denominational differences instead of being unified as the Lord would have us be.

    The subtle lies are mixed in with a lot of sound biblical truth. For instance, the first and last paragraphs of Kim’s beliefs on salvation read as follows:

    “I believe the only way for a person to be saved is through the name of Jesus and by confession that He is Lord. The only way to the Father is by accepting the sacrifice that His Son made by shedding his blood.”

    “His sacrifice was to restore Divine communion between man and God.”

    The full paragraph cited above on Kim’s view of the Second Coming reads:

    “Focusing on the rapture has caused many to lose their burden for the lost. This escapism mentality has caused lethargy in the church because they are waiting to be caught away from the claws of the Anti-Christ. However, if Jesus is Lord and taught us to seek “first” the Kingdom of God, then why should we focus our attention on the removal of the righteous who carry the Kingdom within them? (Luke 17:21) Many Bible prophecy teachers prefer to incite fear and anxiety in the people by focusing the attention on the evil present in this world, and hardly ever focusing their attention on the present greatness of God.

    I do believe that we will meet Him in the air, but I am more excited about winning a generation to God, and then meeting Him in the air with them.” (This part I agree with wholeheartedly.)

    While a lot of what he says may not be worded in a way I would expect, I guess perhaps I have been guilty of twisting his words in my mind to line up with my beliefs, because I wanted to be able to believe him. Although I do admit that there have been a few things I’ve heard from him that I immediately rejected as unbiblical, and yes, even New Age-y. (He’s made references to the Butterfly Effect and the Law of Attraction, both of which I know are New Age ideas.)

    I do not label myself as a sinner; I am a saint (one who has had my sins washed clean in the blood of Christ Jesus) who still sins. In the words of Paul, the spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak, and as has been said many times, the trouble with a living sacrifice is that it keeps crawling off the altar, which has certainly been true in my case.

    I also believe that God has a plan and a purpose and a will (treasure) for every person, but the only way we can unlock that treasure (fulfil God’s will in our lives and realise our purpose) is to admit that we are sinners and accept the sacrifice of Christ Jesus to cleanse us from our sin and to submit our will to His.

    God DOES accomplish His will through His people, and though His ultimate plan will not be thwarted, His will is not always accomplished. It was by God’s will that Jesus came to die on the cross for our sins, but I’m certain that it was NOT His will for that sacrifice to be necessary in the first place. He knew Adam and Eve were going to sin before He even began creating the universe, but it was not His will that they should do so. God also knew Lucifer would grow proud and rebellious before He created him, but I don’t believe for a minute that it was His will that Lucifer should rebel. God could have created a world full of puppets, but He didn’t because He wanted fellowship with beings who would love Him of THEIR OWN free will. Having the freedom to love God also means we have the freedom NOT to.

    I am not content with my present circumstances spiritually, as I want more of God’s presence in my life, and I want to have a closer, more intimate relationship with Him. Paul said we were to covet the gifts of the spirit,
    (1Co 12:31 But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way.
    1Co 14:39 Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues.) so what’s wrong with that?

    I guess the bottom line comes down to the question of whether Kim Clement is truly an evil person who is out to deliberately deceive people, or if he is simply misguided. Is he even truly a Christian? I think only God can answer that…

  13. Ruth says:

    I agree with your desire to discern the truth; however I feel it needs to be done in a way that comes across as done in love rather than condemnation and does not look like christians coming against christians to the non-christians who just see it as typical religious people in-fighting. I feel that at the end of the day we need to remember God is the judge of us all. Let us remember that God sees the heart and if Kim Clements truly loves God and his heart is right. I am sure that many people may come to love and know God through his ministry, whether you believe it completely right all not, with regard to his prophesy. We also need to focus on that positive and pray for and encourage Kim Clements in the right directions rather than just beating him down totally. Maybe his prophesying isn’t right – but I am sure that with God all things are possible. Lets pray that God leads him and leads us also into his light. I had singing tapes I used to play over and over again at 16 of his, that got me through a very hard time and to focus on God. So there is positives there as well. Lets praise God for the good that he can do through people also. Yes, God can work through whoever He wants, however He wants. Maybe Kim’s prophesying is a lot of ‘Kim’ and he needs to pray and think about this. If so, if he realizes, repents and seeks God’s face God will restore him. Kim may not be doing anything wrong intentionally, he may really have a heart after God and may be doing much to promote His kingdom. God only knows for sure and we all have to our death to come to repentance before we stand before our judge and maker. May we all be found to have been pleasing to Him. May God’s will be done here on Earth as it is in Heaven until then.

  14. Ruth

    >> I agree with your desire to discern the truth; however I feel it needs to be done in a way that comes across as done in love rather than condemnation and does not look like christians coming against christians to the non-christians who just see it as typical religious people in-fighting

    The truth is spoken here in love. You feel that we are speaking it in hared, but it is not so. You feel this way because you disagree with what is being said. The Bible tells the truth, and the bible was constant in calling out false teachers who spoke another doctrine. This article is to WARN those who care to know the TRUTH, and steer clear from Kim Clement.

    >> Let us remember that God sees the heart and if Kim Clements truly loves God and his heart is right.

    If Kim’s words speak AGAINST the God of the bible then Kim’s heart is not in the right place, Kim’s heart is wicked and the article explain that fully and comprehensively.

    >> whether you believe it completely right all not, with regard to his prophesy.

    Ohh but what does the bible say Ruth about a False Prophet that speaks false teaching? Are you willing to ignore what God says?

    Deuteronomy 18:22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.

    Ezek 12:25 “For I am the LORD. I speak, and the word which I speak will come to pass; it will no more be postponed; for in your days, O rebellious house, I will say the word and perform it,” says the Lord GOD.”‘

    >> We also need to focus on that positive and pray for and encourage Kim Clements in the right directions rather than just beating him down totally

    Kim Clement needs to know and understand like the adult that he is that he is FOLLOWING and PREACHING a false gospel that is going to land himself up in hell, and he is teaching this false teaching to followers like yours (who don’t want to obey God’s commandments) and you are going to go to hell as well. When you stand before God, you will not be able to tell God, ‘hold on, lets think positively for a second, Kim and I are innocent because no one told us the truth.” But you were told the truth Ruth and you ignored it.

    >> I had singing tapes I used to play over and over again at 16 of his, that got me through a very hard time and to focus on God.

    Kim Clements singing tapes got you through the day? Why did Jesus Christ not get you through the day?

    >> Lets praise God for the good that he can do through people also.

    Kim does no good. He is leading people to a false Christ and you are following him.

    >> Maybe Kim’s prophesying is a lot of ‘Kim’ and he needs to pray and think about this.

    Maybe you need to read your bible and understand what God thinks of people who tell lies. When someone says they ‘speak on behalf of you’ but you never said those things, are they not lying? Now imagine saying that about God!! Do you have no respect for who God is?

    >> Kim may not be doing anything wrong intentionally, he may really have a heart after God and may be doing much to promote His kingdom.

    Will you be able to say that to God one day when you stand before Him? Is that the excuse everyone can use? “I didn’t know what I was doing”? Don’t be so fooled Ruth, of course he knows what he if following and deep down you know too.

  15. Belfry says:

    The signs of a false profit (OOPS, I mean prophet):

    Puts on a great show!………………CHECK
    History of wrong prophecy…………..CHECK
    Send me money……………………..CHECK

    If it looks like a false prophet, acts like a false prophet, talks like a false prophet…

  16. Belfry

    Preaches false doctrine…………CHECK


  17. Debra says:

    The most G-Dly and incredible human being I have ever met. The miracles that have happened in my personal life on a gigantic scale in the past year of partnering with kim have been remarkable !!!! seems like so much is written here to attempt to prove he’s a “false prophet” I cant possibly read all nor do I need to. I personally have experienced supernatural intervention and blessings on a gigantic scale. I wish there were more people like kim who are courageous enough to truly stand against. EVIL

  18. Debra,

    The most wonderful miracle to occur in anybody’s life is the new birth. Are you saved? Most people are so taken up with miracles, signs and wonders these days that they forget to be saved. Performing miracles means absolutely nothing. (Matthew 7:21-23). Satan himself is going to perform many miracle through the Antichrist.

    2Th 2:7-10
    (7) For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
    (8) And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
    (9) Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
    (10) And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

    All those gigantic miracles you’ve experienced in your life and your partnering with Kim Clement won’t won’t help you one single bit to get to heaven if your’e not saved.

    Would you mind telling us how you were saved? (1 Peter 3:15).

  19. R.A D. says:



  20. Dear R.A.D


    Why are you confused? Jesus gives us a sound mind (2 Timothy 1:7) Kim Clement appears to have confused you with his tornado of false teaching – 2 million people all walking down the WIDE path that leads to destruction, for NARROW is the road that leads to heaven. (Matthew 7:13)

    Predicting the future is called divination, Kim Clement practices witchcraft and he is an abomination to God. “anyone who practices divination or tells fortunes or interprets omens, or a sorcerer or a charmer or a medium or a necromancer or one who inquires of the dead, 12 for whoever does these things is an abomination to the Lord.” (Deuteronomy 18:10b-12a)

  21. Jan says:

    Welp, end of the story, as he has passed away today. Was he removed? He was only 60.

  22. lu says:

    The bible warns us not to judge…

    Even in the bible, not all prophecies came true. Jonah was told to tell Nineveh that God would destroy it, but prayer and fasting caused the Lord to change His mind.

  23. lu

    Where in the Bible are we told not to judge? In fact the Bible commands us to judge righteously.

    But the spiritual man [the spiritually mature Christian] judges all things [questions, examines and applies what the Holy Spirit reveals], yet is himself judged by no one [the unbeliever cannot judge and understand the believer’s spiritual nature].. (1 Cor 2:15).

    I suggest that you take off the spectacles that are blinding you to the truth, and read the Bible correctly.

    So Jonah arose, and went unto Nineveh, according to the word of the LORD. Now Nineveh was an exceeding great city of three days’ journey. And Jonah began to enter into the city a day’s journey, and he cried, and said, Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown. So the people of Nineveh believed God, and proclaimed a fast, and put on sackcloth, from the greatest of them even to the least of them. For word came unto the king of Nineveh, and he arose from his throne, and he laid his robe from him, and covered him with sackcloth, and sat in ashes. (Jon 3:3-6)

    God set them an ultimatum, that he would destroy Nineveh, unless they repented of their evil ways. As you may know, Jonah’s stay in the belly of a fish for three days and three nights was a sign that Christ would be crucified and buried for three days and three nights, after which He would be raised from the dead unto the salvation of everyone who believed. (Matthew 16:4). It proves that Christ’s death and resurrection covered the sins of Nineveh, if they repented. And, as you may know, that was exactly what they had done, and were accordingly pardoned and saved. This applies to every single person who repents or refuses to repent. Those who repent are pardoned and will go to heaven; and those who refuse will spend an eternity in hell. Neither God nor Jonah prophesied that Nineveh would be destroyed within forty days, and neither is the eternal salvation of those who repent, and the eternal damnation of those who don’t, a prophecy. It is a DECREE of God, in the form of an ultimatum.

    Your suggestion the Jonah event was a prophecy that did not come true, makes God a liar and a cheat.

  24. D. Williams says:

    Jesus Said: Let the Wheat and Tares grow together and in His Harvest, He will do the separating.
    Let us not get caught up with who’s False and Whos True. Let us stay focused on Jesus Christ
    He knows the True Heart of Man……..He will Judge us All. Just make sure your life is in Line with the Word of God, so when He calls you home, you will be ready, and it really doesn’t matter what anyone says or think, because in the end, it only You and God.
    I’M Praying For Everyone to Finish Strong.

  25. Dear D Williams

    Are you a tare?

    Tell me…if you get all huffy and can’t handle it when men separate good from evil as the bible tells us too, what will you do when you stand before God and He separates you as an evil tare from the good wheat.

  26. Dick says:

    I see Kim’s prophetic words coming to pass on a regular basis. I believe Kim Clement is a true prophet of God. There are end time prophecies presently being fulfilled that were given hundreds of years ago by Isaiah, Jeremiah, Etc.; are we to brand these men of God false prophets because their words were not immediately fulfilled. How about we start worshiping the true God of the Word rather than the one we have created in our own minds. I believe you are a FALSE PROPHETIC voice!!!

  27. How can you say we are a “FALSE PROPHETIC VOICE” when we have never predicted a single thing or prophesized a single event which we believe is going to happen in the future, except for the things that are already prophesied in the Bible? Kim Clement, on the other hand, prophesied many things that never came to pass which, of course, makes him a false prophet according to the standard the Word of God sets for a prophet.

    If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder, And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them; Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul. Ye shall walk after the LORD your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him. And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to thrust thee out of the way which the LORD thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put the evil away from the midst of thee. (Deuteronomy 13:1-5).

    And yet, Clement said, “You can be a wrong prophet and not be a false prophet” (Trinity Broadcasting Network, “The prophetic ministry of Kim Clement,” Aug, 13, 2002).

    If you really love the Lord you will immediately stop listening to and following Kim Clement, for he not only lied in his prophecies but also preached another gospel.

  28. I quoted Clement as saying on TBN that “You can be a wrong prophet and not be a false prophet.” If, as Clement claimed, his prophecies were inspired by God, his statement suggests that God can be wrong which places Him squarely in Satan’s domain of lies. Simple arithmetic says “wrong=false=lies=Satan” (John 8:44). That’s pure blasphemy. I strongly doubt whether Clement is in heaven. How can anyone in his right mind follow the teachings and prophecies of someone who said that God is wrong and, therefore, a liar, and is now probably in hell? There sure are some strange people on this planet. Phew!

  29. Robbie says:


    In case you missed this prophecy from Kim – “As I stand at this cross, there is one that I have chosen who has kneeled at this cross many, many times. I speak of the one who calls himself after St. Francis of Assisi. The Spirit of the Lord spoke for him to come and stand at the head, but this man is not like any other, says the Lord. This man has been appointed to join the hearts of Protestant faith – Catholic – those who are Spirit-filled”…”My eye, says the Lord, is upon planet Earth, to pour out of My Spirit. And I have chosen Pope Francis (IN A GOOD WAY) as one of the voices that will speak,

    If you agree with this you should really stop listening to every Tom and Harry… :nope:

  30. Romeo says:

    Clement seems like a False Prophet of the Antichrist spirit :nope:

  31. Olaf says:

    Do you really know who POPE FRANCIS is? He is “King” of the VATICAN?
    A little background on the WOMAN (Whore) of Revelation.17:3. So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
    The WOMAN SITS on a SCARLET (Communist – UN) which has 7 Heads (G7) and 10 Horns (World Trade Org.)
    Rev.17:7. And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the BEAST that CARRIETH her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.
    The WOMAN has TWO Colours of the GARMENTS worn by the Bishops and Cardinals. (Purple and Scarlet)
    Rev.17:4. And the woman was arrayed in PURPLE and SCARLET colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
    WHAT is the LOCATION of the WHORE? (Rome is on 7 Mountains)
    Rev.17:9. And here [is] the mind which hath wisdom. The SEVEN heads are SEVEN mountains, on which the woman sitteth.
    There are 7 HEADS of this WHORE. (5 DIE, ONE is, the OTHER [King BENEDICT] is HEAD -The OTHER [King]for a SHORT Space)
    Rev.17:10. And there are SEVEN kings: FIVE ARE FALLEN, and one is, [and] the OTHER is not yet come; and when he cometh, HE must continue a SHORT space.

    HOW come there are 7 KINGS, when the VATICAN is a CHURCH???
    >>The VATICAN is a SOVEREIGN Country!<<
    Since the LATERAN Treaty in 1929, there were 7 POPES elected (Since 1929) – FRANCIS is 7th!
    You CANNOT have a KING without a DOMAIN!

  32. Rebecca says:

    The NT doesn’t have prophets like OT prophets. Old testament believers did not have the Holy Spirit living inside of them. The Spirit came upon OT prophets. Under the new covenant, the Holy Spirit lives inside believers and gives them gifts, like the gift of teaching or the gift of prophesy, as the Spirit wills. I agree that this man was a false teacher and not a prophet. I disagree that the gift of prophesy ended. It did not end any more than any of the other spiritual gifts ended.

  33. Dear Rebecca, You said that you disagree that the gift of prophecy ended. Do you mean the gift of foretelling future events is still in vogue in churches today? Before you answer, would you mind telling us what the following passage in Scripture means?

    God, having spoken to the fathers long ago in [the voices and writings of] the prophets in many separate revelations [each of which set forth a portion of the truth], and in many ways, has in these last days spoken [with finality] to us in [the person of One who is by His character and nature] His Son [namely Jesus], whom He appointed heir and lawful owner of all things, through whom also He created the universe [that is, the universe as a space-time-matter continuum]. (Hebrews 1:1-2).

    Every single person who gets up in church and tells you, “God said this to me and He said that to me” is an infamous liar and an agent of the devil. God did not speak to him because He has completely and finally spoken through his Son. In fact, He has put a huge FULL STOP behind everything Jesus has spoken and all the things (including prophetic revelation in the future) he spoke via his twelve apostles and Paul of Tarsus. And that’s precisely why the apostles and Paul warns very seriously.

    We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error. (1 Jonn 4:6)

    Anyone who does not speak according to what the twelve apostles and Paul preached, and claims to have new revelations from God in regard to future events is not saved and needs to repent.

    To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them. (Isaiah 8:20)

    Don’t listen or believe persons who allegedly prophesy future events. By doing so you are polluting yourself with lies (John 8:44).

  34. Carlos says:

    I would like to know the sources for some of his statements posted on here as i cant see them anywhere.

  35. Carlos. You will have to be more specific. To which statements are you referring?

  36. Carlos says:

    Oh yeah sorry about that. When you said “In an Interview with Matt Crouch on TBN Clement” do you have a link for this. I have a friend who I want to share this with but I would like them to be able to here kim say it.Specifically the parts of being born again.

  37. Hi Carlos

    Any snapshots I got from his website as been removed.

    Most info came from here
    I do not know the author of the above pdf article and I would not recommend them, but they have a lot of other info on there that is alarming to say the least.

    I got my information from ( and <-- please read both. It would appear these things were said on TBN on TV, back in early 2000's when recording videos and sticking them on youtube/internet didn't exist, so they were noted down by Mike Oppenheimer from Let us Reason Ministries. I do not know the author of the above pdf article and I would not recommend them, but they have a lot of other info on there that is alarming to say the least.

  38. Carlos says:

    Ok I undersatnd. God bless!

  39. Monique says:

    [deleted by DTW – Yes and Kim said you don’t have to be born again. One day when you stand before God and He reminds you of this very conversation, don’t say lie and tell God we didn’t try and warn you.]

  40. Ida Geyser says:

    Dear DTW,

    Just wanted to add to the story, because Kim Clement’s heresy didn’t stop when he died. It spread to the family and now it’s back in my town too, with the prophetess Cindy as new kid on the block.

    I wish I could warn Cindy against these people, but she not listening to me. They sucking people into the lies. They promising you a prophetic word into your life when you pay the R100 and join their breakfast. Is that bizarre or what?

    Regards, :unhappy:

  41. Dear Ida.

    We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error. (1 John 4:6).

    To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them. (Isa 8:20).

  42. Cynthia says:

    Only God is allowed to judge the prophets. No one else. Test the spirits, use discernment, yes. But GOD judges, not us.

  43. Thqrlene LakesMathis says:

    many false Prophets & just because he uses Jesus’s name can be a way to decieve! He’s a chanter,like the pagans do,I believe this pg. for sure!

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