Cobus van Wyngaard – Avatar Portrays Wonderful World of Perfect Pantheism

Cobus van Wyngaard  -mycontemplationsblogCobus van Wyngaard – Avatar Portrays Wonderful World of Perfect Pantheism

Before I carry on..actually let me not waste my all my time on this one, because I mentioned this to Cobus before.  Please do all genuine Christians a favour and call yourself something other than Christian.  In fact you insult pantheists by calling yourself a Christian – ever ‘meditated’ on that one?  Here’s a mantra for you:  ‘I must stop lying to myself’.  Repeat 100x per sitting, 7x a day, for as long as it takes for you to be COMPLETELY honest.

I find it incredible that you are a pastor at an NG Kerk and you still have people come there on Sundays to ‘worship God’.  Let’s put that ‘god’ in lowercase shall we.  It would appear that the South African white population are quite an ungodly bunch.  Who would have guessed.   Jeremiah 17:9   The heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked.  Who can know it?”

Let’s make this coming New Years the year you tell your flock;  “I am not a Christian – everyone who wants to leave this church please do so now, and save yourselves from deception”.

See previous article and conversations with Cobus ‘pantheist’ van Wyngaard here:  How unique was the suffering of Jesus? Not unique at all! See article here on Avatar Movie:  Pantheism – Hollywood’s Religion of Choice for a Generation Now  and on Copenhagen Summit:  Why did Copenhagen fail?

Article taken from Cobus van Wyngaards – My Contemplations Blog:

18 December, the sad concurrency of Avatar and the Copenhagen accord

By Cobus van Wyngaard – December 23, 2009

18 December was the day Avatar was released in South Africa. 18 December was also the day of the Copenhagen accord.

Today I finally came around to reading the reports of Copenhagen. And I finally came around to watching Avatar. A sad concurrency of events.

Yes, Avatar is good. It might be one of those movies which will take me quite some time to work through. It presents a weird and magically wonderful world with effects which few, if anyone, have ever been able do. In combining this with the total over-romanticization of primal cultures, it reminds me of the 1999 Hallmark mini-series of Journey to the Center of the Earth (which I haven’t seen in 8 years or so, but I remember finding really brilliant at the time).

Avatar portrays this beautifully wonderful world of perfect pantheism (although they mess up this theological concept a bit with typical popular western theological ideas, but that will have to be left for another post), where everything is connected, and everything is in balance. It’s an Eden environment, where humanoids feel nature, care for nature, name the animals.

The movie is a blatant critique of colonialism, of the disconnect with nature brought about by our technocratic society, of the destruction of the earth by humans, of the disregard of everything sacred. And dare I say that the general reaction to this critique is positive. For many, the fantastic fantasy world of Pandora point to what we know, on a deep level, to be right, and true. Peace. Harmony. With all of creation. Living a simple lifestyle. Caring for the environment. Yes, all this and more, the beautiful world of Pandora is what we want. But we want to keep it fantasy.

Almost as if we need the fantasy of the possible life in harmony with nature, to keep our technocratic militaristic consumerist world alive. As if we know that as soon as the hope of peace and harmony disappear, we’ll die. So we keep the fantasy alive, so that we can continue our destruction. Because as soon as we walk out of Avatar, we continue our Christmas shopping, buying more than we need, and more than the earth can sustain. We go back to our lives in security villages and kept safe by large armies that keep the possibility of a society where the masses are living in absolute poverty alive. And not only do we shrug at a climate deal which screams against everything that Avatar has been fighting for, we kind of know that we are not willing to change our own lifestyles to be in harmony with our mother earth.

As the days after Copenhagen pass, the reaction of sadness, and sometimes madness, is heard over and over again. Yes, the thoughtful recognize the difficulties that the conversations faces, the thoughtful know that a first step in the right direction has been made. But the reality is that we are making decisions to safe our own asses. We have heard that gaia (to use Lovelock’s language) is going to make it difficult for humans, and we are willing to keep to the limits which was set so that our own comforts aren’t threatened. But harmony with the earth isn’t even on the table. Actually going above and beyond what the economy and human survival require isn’t even considered. A world where the human species is connected with everything around it is kept for the fantasy world of Pandora.



Mark 7:6-8    6And He said to them, “Rightly did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written:  ‘THIS PEOPLE HONORS ME WITH THEIR LIPS, BUT THEIR HEART IS FAR AWAY FROM ME.   7‘BUT IN VAIN DO THEY WORSHIP ME,  TEACHING AS DOCTRINES THE PRECEPTS OF MEN.’  8“Neglecting the commandment of God, you hold to the tradition of men.”

Mark 7:21-23    21“For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed the evil thoughts, fornications, thefts, murders, adulteries,  22deeds of coveting and wickedness, as well as deceit, sensuality, envy, slander, pride and foolishness.  23“All these evil things proceed from within and defile the man.”

2 Chronicles 12:14   14He did evil because he did not set his heart to seek the LORD.

Psalm 12:2    2They speak falsehood to one another;  With flattering lips and with a double heart they speak.

Psalm 28:3   3Do not drag me away with the wicked  And with those who work iniquity,  Who speak peace with their neighbors,  While evil is in their hearts.

Psalm 94:11  11The LORD knows the thoughts of man, That they are a mere breath.

Matthew  9:4   Knowing their thoughts, Jesus said, “Why do you entertain evil  thoughts in your hearts?

Matthew12:33   “Make a tree good and its fruit will be good, or make a tree bad and  its fruit will be bad, for a tree is recognized by its fruit.

Matthew34   You brood of vipers, how can you who are evil say anything good? For out of the overflow of the heart the mouth speaks.

Matthew35   The good man brings good things out of the good stored up in him, and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in him.

Matthew15:18    But the things that come out of the mouth come from the heart, and  these make a man ‘unclean.’


Matthew 22:37   Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with  all your soul and with all your mind.’


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Deborah Ellish is the author of the above article. Discerning the World is an internet Christian Ministry based in Johannesburg South Africa. Tom Lessing and Deborah Ellish both own Discerning the World. For more information see the About this Website page below the comments section.

1 Response

  1. Cobus

    A while ago you published an article on your blog where you said something to the effect that you were not sure if you were Christian. That ‘maybe’ you were. I had the link and I have misplaced it. Please would you be honest enough to comment here with that url.

    Also how many people from your church actually read your blog?

    Have you ever stood up in front of your congregation and told them the truth about what you really believe?

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