Nelson Mandela, Thabo Mbeki, Desmond Tutu all Freemasons

Nelson Mandela Freemason hand sign2

I have believed Nelson Mandela to be a Freemason for many a year but there has not been any proof until now.  DTW has written the following articles on Nelson Mandela where he stated at a function that Maitreya (the Christ) visited him when he was still in prison on Robben Island – see article here:  Mandela, Maitreya and a Rainbow Nation.  Then see article where he is quite happy to be compared to Jesus Christ in a Last Supper painting: Mandela as Jesus Christ, and here again where the ANC compares Madiba to Jesus Christ:  “Stop Comparing Mandela to Jesus”  or  where they liken him to Moses who led the Israelites out of Egypt – a comparison to leading the blacks out of Apartheid here:  ANC likens Madiba to Moses.

But was Nelson Mandela a Freemason?  He was part of The Elders setup by Richard Branson (freemason) and Peter Gabriel (freemason), see here:  The Elders and the New World Order

Nelson Mandela and Freemason hand signs.

Freemasons are known to give hand signals when they are taking photos or greeting others to let other Freemasons know that they are one of them.  This picture was taken from Modern Maturity Magazine in 2004.  An entire page was dedicated to this photo of Nelson Mandela.  The magazine is published by AARP who is run by radical leftists.  Mandela joyfully shows his hands in the position of a double V, this is based on the Hebrew letter ‘shin,’ and supposedly invokes Kabbalalistic magic.  It is reported that Mandela became a Freemason in 1994.  The Rothchilds and the Oppenheimers (all Freemasons running the scenes to establish a New World Order along with other so called Black Nobility families) who were the orgistrators of the fall of Apartheid and are the ones who still actually run what goes on behind the scene in South Africa today – so there is a ‘third force’ if you want to call it that who is controlling what happens to this country.

Nelson Mandela freemason Shin V handsignal
Freemason Kaballah Shin V

Below you will find pictures of Nelson Mandela who was knighted into the Order of St John, as a Knight of Malta.

Nelson Mandela and The Knights of Malta.

NElson Mandeal - Knight of Malta
Nelson Mandeal – Order of St John stamp

The Nights of Malta is a Freemason Order for anyone of notability; from politicians right down to our so called Christian clergy.  See article here of Apostle Rick Joyner from Morningstar ministires who is happy to flash about his Masonic Knight of Malta robes.”…There are now two bodies-one Catholic and the other Protestant, but each repudiates the other…”

“The degree of Knights of Malta is conferred in the United States as “an appendant Order” in a Commandery of Knights Templar. There is a ritual attached to the degree, but very few are in possession of it, and it is generally communicated after the candidate has been created a Knights Templar…”  [1]

Nelson Mandela was not the only one from South Africa who was knighted – Freemason, Thabo Mbeki too was knighted.

Thobo Mkeki - Knight of Malta

But who would have guessed that Desmond Tutu was a Freemason as well?Desmond Tutu is also part of The Elders.

Nelson Mandeal - Desmond Tutu - Knight of Malta

And now we know – solid proof that Nelson Mandela, Thabo Mbeki and our ever more famous Archbishop Desmond Tutu are Freemasons who worship LUCIFER as their god.


[1] An Encyclopedia of Freemasonry and Its Kindred Sciences,” etc. by Albert G. Mackey, M.D., Thirty-Third Degree, Volume I, published by the Masonic History Company, Chicago, New York, & London, 1925, Volume One, pp. 392-95

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33 Responses

  1. Louis says:

    As if being communists and terrorists/killers weren’t enough they all had to be Freemasons too. lol. Seems like there is no limit to their degree of sickness and perversion.

  2. Louis,

    You cannot become a Freemason without an invitation by the Freemason hierarchy. It was like this also with the former Broederbond in South Africa. Pride is one of the main reasons why so many well-known black South Africans fall for Freemasonry because it allegedly broke down the walls of racism. Wikipedia says the following:

    rince Hall Freemasonry exists because of the refusal of early American lodges to admit African-Americans. In 1775, an African-American named Prince Hall,[52] along with fourteen other African-Americans, was initiated into a British military lodge with a warrant from the Grand Lodge of Ireland, having failed to obtain admission from the other lodges in Boston. When the military Lodge left North America, those fifteen men were given the authority to meet as a Lodge, but not to initiate Masons. In 1784, these individuals obtained a Warrant from the Premier Grand Lodge of England (GLE) and formed African Lodge, Number 459. When the UGLE was formed in 1813, all U.S.-based Lodges were stricken from their rolls – due largely to the War of 1812. Thus, separated from both UGLE and any concordantly recognised U.S. Grand Lodge, African Lodge re-titled itself as the African Lodge, Number 1 – and became a de facto “Grand Lodge” (this Lodge is not to be confused with the various Grand Lodges on the Continent of Africa). As with the rest of U.S. Freemasonry, Prince Hall Freemasonry soon grew and organised on a Grand Lodge system for each state.

    Widespread segregation in 19th- and early 20th-century North America made it difficult for African-Americans to join Lodges outside of Prince Hall jurisdictions – and impossible for inter-jurisdiction recognition between the parallel U.S. Masonic authorities. By the 1980s, such discrimination was a thing of the past, and today most U.S. Grand Lodges recognise their Prince Hall counterparts, and the authorities of both traditions are working towards full recognition. The United Grand Lodge of England has no problem with recognising Prince Hall Grand Lodges.[55] While celebrating their heritage as lodges of black Americans, Prince Hall is open to all men regardless of race or religion.

    And then the Americans and the British have the audacity to say that Apartheid was started in South Africa. Hypocrites!

  3. Luis says:

    http://www.traditioninaction.org/Questions/F068_Malta.htm

    [Edited by DTW: You ask a question to liars (Roman Catholic Church) and you get a lie.]

  4. Garry says:

    Clearly you have no idea about freemasonry. How many of you have actually been masons, know masons or have even bothered to enter into debate with a lodge member?
    Firstly…You are never invited to join freemasonry. You have to approach them.
    Secondly… freemasonry is not a religion however you have to have a firm belief in GOD. Atheists are not welcome in the order. In our lodge we are mostly Christian so we use the Bible in our meetings. We call the bible the volume of the sacred law because in lodges of other faiths they will use whatever holy book is sacred to them, whether it be the Torra, Koran etc etc. In fact i have seen initiations in Christian lodges where a joining Muslim brother took his obligation on a Koran which was placed on top of the bible. Interesting fact…the Grand Master of the Israeli Lodges is a Palestinian it is a great pity that this could not realistically happen outside of freemasonry.

    Thirdly….You can’t be made a Knight of Malta without going through other degrees first…the correct path would be the 3 degrees in freemasonry, then the Royal Arch, Knights Templar and then Malta. Interesting fact…KT is considered a Christian degree and is always opened with the Lords Prayer and a salute to Christ our Lord, Christ our Prophet and Christ our Savior.. each with the sign of a crusader which is a cross drawn in the air. There is also always a symbol of Christ on a cross.

    There are 33 degrees in Freemasonry because Christ was 33 years old when he gave his life for us on the cross.

  5. Dear Garry

    Thank for all that info we already know. You don’t have to jump in the fire to know it’s going to burn you. You don’t need to be a mason to know what occultism is about.
    Clearly you have no idea about real Christianity, because you have never been one. Wink/ The Christianity you speak off is the fake version – you have been lied to about that too.
    By the way, Jesus Christ is the Son of God, not Christ the Prophet. Jesus’ revelation of God is far superior than a mere prophet He is our Prophet, High Priest and King. In the Koran the Christ they speak off is a mere prophet too and Allah has no son. Your GOD is Lucifer and you know that.

  6. Garry says:

    [deleted by DTW with our comment to you:] Don’t leave a comment where you ‘judge us’ for ‘judging others’ – Same goes for ‘criticising us’ for ‘criticising’ – just silly. See comments section

  7. Garry says:

    WOW! you clearly have issues. fake Christianity… you need to get off the internet and stop being brainwashed by lunatic conspiracy theories that carry no weight …. You do not know me and yet you insult me by saying I’m not a Christian and worship the Devil, what sort of Christian are you… I suppose you are one of those “charismatic” type of christians who cannot accept or even tolerate any other faith….even those from different Christian denominations…..That is plain bigotry and totally un-Christian like……If your attitude is the one practiced by the REAL Christianity you talk about, then i’m perfectly happy with my “fake” version which involves loving thy neighbour, forgiveness and helping the helpless. Shame on you and your real version of Christianity.

  8. Dear Garry

    You must think Jesus Christ THE SON OF GOD and all genuine Christians are totally stupid.

    You know who you really worship my friend, under the disguise of ‘Christianity’.

    Christian Masonic Lodges”…do you want me to laugh Garry? Let’s get serious now shall we.

    Lucifer [and Baphomet,] is your god. In the ritual of exultation, (as early as the 4th degree,) the name of the Great Architect of the Universe, Baphomet (that is your ‘G’ in the Masonic Square and Compasses) is revealed to the master mason as Jahbulon. Stephen Knight explained, “Jahbulon is a precise designation that describes a specific supernatural being – a compound deity composed of three separate personalities fused into one,” – and this name signifies the unholy trinity of Satan.

    The name of the Great Architect of the Universe, Jahbulon, the god of the masonic lodge, is revealed to the master mason first. ‘High’ masons know him as Baphomet, the goat-god of lust and power.

    I am going to love my neighbour and help the helpless…

    Jesus Christ the son of God, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob says to you:

      James 5:12 “But above all things, my brethren, swear not, neither by heaven, neither by the earth, neither by any other oath: but let your yea be yea; and your nay, nay; lest ye fall into condemnation.” Matthew 5:34-37

    And to you Garry the builder (mason):

      Acts 4:11 (AMP) “This Jesus is the stone which was despised and rejected by you, the builders, but which became the chief Cornerstone.”

    As for forgivenss, Jesus Christ the son of God says:

      1 John 1:9 “If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.”
  9. Garry says:

    Again your knowledge of Masonry is frighteningly lacking…..There is no 4th degree in Masonry. The Holy Royal Arch is a completion of the 3rd degree. The Stone you refer to was called a Keystone……In the Mark degree ceremony it is rejected by the builders as it was an unusual shape as it was not square….a shape that was never seen before. In the ceremony The Architect then instructs the builders to go to the quarry and search for that same stone and return it at all cost. In history the shape of this stone revolutionized construction and allowed the more skilled craftsman to build arches and flying buttresses …..Arched structures are significant as they allowed light into massive structures for the first time…look at the great stained glass windows of some of the worlds most significant religious structures, Look at the stones carefully and you will see each one will have a small “Mark” engraved onto them which will identify each and every craftsman who carved them….this mark was used to collect wages….in those days it mainly corn and oil or specie.
    By the way The name of the Great Architect of the universe is Jehovah!

  10. Hi Garry

    You said “There is no 4th degree in Masonry.”

    No? Really? You are either not a higher degree Mason or your lodge doesn’t have a 4th degree or you are a architect of deception like your ‘G’. Of course there is a 4th degree – http://www.freemasons-freemasonry.com/beresiner3.html

    By the way, the name of the Great Architect of the Universe in Masonry is Juhbulon (Lucifer or Baphomet, Allah, Krishna, Buddah etc,.) not Jehovah. You use the God of Christianity as a disguise.

    Your explanation of the stone and of the light through those “most significant religious structures” = traditions of men. Might be true in your mind and that of the mind of your little Prophet Jesus and his little Lodges, but to the Son of God Jesus Christ it means absolutely nothing…

      Colossians 2:8 “Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.”

    Your little stones and religions buildings with stained glass windows are:

      Psalms 115:4-8 “4 Their idols are silver and gold, the work of men’s hands. 5 They have mouths, but they speak not: eyes have they, but they see not: 6 They have ears, but they hear not: noses have they, but they smell not: 7 They have hands, but they handle not: feet have they, but they walk not: neither speak they through their throat. 8 They that make them are like unto them; so is every one that trusteth in them. “
  11. Garry says:

    Degrees in ENGLISH Freemasonry are the following:
    1.Entered Apprentice, 2.Fellow craft, 3.Master Mason – When a Freemason has attained the rank of a Master Mason he is then entitled, after a period of one month, to be exalted into a Royal Arch Chapter in order to complete fully his Master Mason’s Degree. However I will grant you that The Holy Royal Arch was considered a 4th degree in 1751 for about 60 years.
    Then there is Mark Master Masons, Royal Arch Mariners (topic of Noah) Knights Templar and Knights of Malta which are all considered orders.
    We then have the Rose Croix which is considered to be the 18th Degree. Then there is the 30th Degree and finally a 33rd Degree.
    If you are from America then Freemasonry here would be Scottish or York Rite which is different to our English constitution.
    I have been a Mason for over 15 years belong to many orders and will be advancing to 18th degree next year. Before Masonry I wasn’t a very tolerant person, was prejudice and not a very kind hearted person. I now have great respect and tolerance of all faiths (Christianity is the youngest of the main religions so it is nice to understand what came before it) I raise money for Charity, sing hymns, help out at soup kitchens and believe that I have a much kinder heart and appreciation for my fellow creatures. I come from England but reside in South Africa and I find your intolerance for other faiths reminiscent of the dark days of apartheid.

  12. Garry

    You said “Before Masonry I wasn’t a very tolerant person, was prejudice and not a very kind hearted person.”

    So Masonry saved you, not Jesus Christ the Son of God who says:

      Luke 10:27 “And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.”

    You said “I raise money for Charity, sing hymns, help out at soup kitchens and believe that I have a much kinder heart and appreciation for my fellow creatures.”

    Jesus Christ the Son of God says to you:

      Matthew 6:1-4
      1 Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.
      2 Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
      3 But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:
      4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.

    That reward you get for bragging about your charity is condemnation .

    Your good works are like filthy rags before the Almighty Living God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob.

      Isaiah 64:6 “But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.”

    Jesus Christ the Son of God says to you Garry:

      John 5:39-44
      39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
      40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.
      41 I receive not honour from men.
      42 But I know you, that ye have not the love of God in you.
      43 I am come in my Father’s name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.
      44 How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, and seek not the honour that cometh from God only?

    You said “I come from England but reside in South Africa and I find your intolerance for other faiths reminiscent of the dark days of apartheid.”

    I am quoting from the Bible Garry, the one you say you believe in, how can you call the Bible scripture (Jesus’ Word) reminiscent of the dark days of apartheid? I am from South Africa and lived in the days of Apartheid, it was atrocious to say the least – funny thing is Garry it was run by a Freemason Calvinist Government :nod:

    You are not only intolerant of genuine Christianity but of JESUS CHRIST THE SON OF GOD HIMSELF. Jesus Christ was hated by everyone, that is why Lucifer did his utmost to kill him, not realizing it was God’s plan all along that Jesus Christ would die for the forgiveness of the sins of the world for those who would believe in Him and come to him seeking forgiveness of their sin. (John 3:16-17)

    Jesus Christ the Son of God was hated, and so are genuine Christians:

      John 15:18 [Jesus Says] If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.
      Luke 6:22 “Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man’s sake.”

    Jesus Christ the son of God Himself says this about people and doctrines that go against HIS teaching.

      Romans 16:17-18
      17Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
      18For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.
      Galatians 1:8-9
      8But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
      9As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

    This is in reference to all false prophets including you little Prophet Jesus:

      2 Peter 2:1 “But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.”
  13. Garry

    Just going back to your other comment where you said “There are 33 degrees in Freemasonry because Christ was 33 years old when he gave his life for us on the cross.”

    Isn’t it interesting that Masonry classify their number of Degrees upto 33 based on the year when their ‘Christ’ died, but don’t mention the resurrection? Hmmmmm You would think if they were truly Christian they would rather say

    “There are 33 degrees in Freemasonry because Christ was 33 years old when he gave his life for us on the cross, buried and RESURRECTED and now seats at the right hand side of the Father.”

    Nope, they just stop right at the death part. Why? Because He never rose Garry. Therefore this Prophet Jesus of yours is not Jesus Christ the Son of God of the Bible, but an impostor.

  14. Jani says:

    Dear Gary,

    You do not have a clue about to be a Christian. Your LORD is Lucifer. Your Lord know how to lie, deceit,
    and blinded you to believe everything. This is so sad. There is only on God. There is only one way and that is Jesus Christ the Son of God. Nobody can come to Me, the Word of God says (our Bible) but through my Son Jesus Christ. He is the truth the life and the way. This is not what we telling you, this is in actual fact GOD’S Word, spoken. Sorry/

  15. It appears Garry has disappeared :waiting:
    I pray that he left here actually thinking about those Bible scriptures I quoted him and didn’t just browse over them because his heart is so hardened that he can’t bare to actually read the Word of God and hear what Jesus Christ has to say to him. I truly pray that his eyes are opened to the truth as the Holy Spirit tugs at his heart.

  16. Daisy says:

    Praying for Garry tonight!

  17. Mos says:

    Garry wrote:

    Clearly you have no idea about freemasonry. How many of you have actually been masons, know masons or have even bothered to enter into debate with a lodge member?
    Firstly…You are never invited to join freemasonry. You have to approach them.
    Secondly… freemasonry is not a religion however you have to have a firm belief in GOD. Atheists are not welcome in the order. In our lodge we are mostly Christian so we use the Bible in our meetings. We call the bible the volume of the sacred law because in lodges of other faiths they will use whatever holy book is sacred to them, whether it be the Torra, Koran etc etc. In fact i have seen initiations in Christian lodges where a joining Muslim brother took his obligation on a Koran which was placed on top of the bible. Interesting fact…the Grand Master of the Israeli Lodges is a Palestinian it is a great pity that this could not realistically happen outside of freemasonry.

    Thirdly….You can’t be made a Knight of Malta without going through other degrees first…the correct path would be the 3 degrees in freemasonry, then the Royal Arch, Knights Templar and then Malta. Interesting fact…KT is considered a Christian degree and is always opened with the Lords Prayer and a salute to Christ our Lord, Christ our Prophet and Christ our Savior.. each with the sign of a crusader which is a cross drawn in the air. There is also always a symbol of Christ on a cross.

    There are 33 degrees in Freemasonry because Christ was 33 years old when he gave his life for us on the cross.

    33 degree masons are sworn in on the Quran. For all facts listen to Water Veight.

  18. Dear Mos

    I can’t seem to find anything on ‘Water Veight’. Do you mean Walter Veith from the demonic cult of Seventh Day Adventism who is just as ungodly as a 33 degree mason as he worships the prophetess Ellen G White?

  19. Garry

    You say Freemasonry is not a religion? Really? And yet you associate the 33rd degree of masonry with Christ’s age when he was crucified? The central doctrine of biblical Christianity is the cross of Jesus Christ. (1 Corinthians 1:18). This is a command. Don’t, I repeat don’t associate your filthy freemasonry rituals, doctrines and beliefs with Christ Jesus and his cross and then sanctimoniously declare that Freemasonry is not a religion. Freemasonry IS a religion and represents all the faiths there are in this world in a blasphemous ecumenical fashion. Get thee behind me, Satan!

    Read this:

    http://www.ephesians5-11.org/dodson.htm

  20. Paul says:

    I am not sure if anything I write here is going to make any difference, because I am not aware of any other people who suffer the absurdity of being told what they believe by people who have absolutely no idea what said persons believe.

    Freemasonry is not a religion. This is not up for debate. Two things we don’t discuss in lodge is religion and politics. The closest Freemasonry comes to religion is the fact that most Orders require you believe in a “creator god”, but I’ll have you know that not all Orders even require that. The Order I am in does not require it. The next “religious” (I could however contest it as such) requirement is that a person deemed fit and proper to be a Freemason, must be “true, upright, free and of mature age, sound judgement, and strict morals”. This wouldn’t be a good recruitment drive for Satanic “wannabe’s”, or persons with a sinister agenda.

    Non-Masons often pick up a book authored by a Freemason, and think they have hit the jackpot. If they kept digging further, they would be very confused. The confusion that would come about would result from Freemasonry seemingly being undecided as to what it’s belief is. A Freemason’s beliefs are his own, and do not represent freemasonry. Given an individual’s pursuit to do work for the glory of God and/or the perfection of humanity, this is going to be reflected in his behaviour and writings. One can easily write a book about one’s faith and one’s involvement in charity. No one would raise an eyebrow. Freemasonry is essentially three primary things. Firstly, a fraternity where like-minded people who share the same ideals comes together and we show love and compassion to one another. Secondly, Charity. Freemasons are charitable to their brethren who are in need, and to the world at large. Freemasonry is one of the most charitable organisations you will find anywhere. Hospitals have even been built by the fraternity. Finally, the one you are waiting for. Truth. Yes, we are in constant search of the truth, whatever that truth may be. It depends on the individual. Freemasonry gives you the keys, what you unlock and discover is dependent on your effort and thirst for knowledge. Why “truth” and the secrecy that Freemasonry once held on to, you might ask? Well ask Galileo and his compatriots about that. There was a time when truth was not such a desirable thing, and was regarded as heresy. Nearly 100 million Americans today, reject much of the scientific knowledge that has been discovered. To them. much of it borders on blasphemy, and under different circumstances, they would be lynching people for their discoveries. It’s not that Freemasonry “has the truth”. Freemasonry has never made such a claim. What Freemasonry stands to protect, is your right to the “truth”, without persecution, whatever it is.

  21. Paul says:

    I am just going to be brief on the next point, because it’s such a ludicrous one. For further reading, I suggest you google the “Taxil hoax”. The spurious claim that Freemasons worship Satan is insane. We don’t worship ANYONE in lodge. At most, we may ask for the blessing of the “Great Architect of the Universe” in our work. I don’t think the Abrahamic God, or any other god, will be offended by such a title.

    The idea of Satanism stems from the writings in the Taxil hoax, misaligning the writings of Albert Pike. Given the Christian misunderstanding of “Lucifer”, it is unfortunate that anyone would use the word, but then, does one always have to capitulate to peoples ignorance?

    Lucifer is not Satan. Jesus claimed to be Lucifer too. It is just a Latin word for “morning star”.

    This link will explain the origins of the term “Lucifer”, and give the quotes about Jesus, and by Jesus:

    http://www.acts17-11.com/dialogs_morningstar.html

  22. Your comments prove beyond any doubt that “the heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked.” (Jeremiah 17:9). You know as well as I do that every Mason is sworn to secrecy and may not reveal in any which way possible the secret contents of Masonic ritual. Therefore, your efforts to sanctify and defend Freemasonry is quite understandable. Many ex-Masons who have since turned to Christ Jesus for their salvation feel compelled to disclose Masonic secrets. However, many decline to do so because of their murky Masonic history. Do yourself a favor and read this short article, “Captain William Morgan.

    You are very keen to prove that Jesus is the bright Morning Star but reluctant to acknowledge that He is the essence of Truth. If Lucifer equals Jesus Christ then Satan is also the Truth which is absurd, to say the least (John 8:44). Had you acknowledged and worshiped Jesus Christ (not Lucifer) as the essence of Truth (John 14:6), you would never have said, “Truth. Yes, we are in constant search of the truth, whatever that truth may be. It depends on the individual. Freemasonry gives you the keys, what you unlock and discover is dependent on your effort and thirst for knowledge.” Truth, therefore, according to Masonic doctrine is whatever you may conjure up in your own mind. Hence, your own “truth” that Lucifer is Jesus Christ. Your journey to search for truth will always be an endless, fruitless and futile journey whilst you cling to the blasphemous idea that Jesus Christ is Lucifer, unless you repent and find the Truth in the real Jesus Christ of the Bible and not in Satan who cunningly changes himself into an angel of light to deceive you. (Matthew 7:14).

    All the Masonic Grand Lodges teach that Lucifer is the Holy Spirit. Yet, you claim that Freemasonry is not a religion. Had you sought truth, as you said, you would have known that worship is one of the primary purposes of Freemasonry. In fact, if all religions are welcome in the brotherhood of Freemasonry, as indeed they are, you cannot possibly forbid the other religions to worship their god or gods in the lodges. How do you accommodate the various religions under the banner of Freemasonry without them offending one another? You name your god “Great Architect of the Universe” and represent him with the symbol of the All-Seeing Eye which ancient Egypt used to represent their pagan god, Osiris. This is the ideal symbol to reflect unity and brotherhood among all the religions because all religions acknowledge the All Seeing as the all-seeing eye of their god/s. Hinduism, Islam, Buddhism, Rosicrucianism, Judaism, Catholicism, wizardry and witchcraft and even Satanism are all one under the All Seeing Eye. In fact, one of the most sacred and revered words in the 17th Degree of the Scottish Rite is Abaddon of Revelation 9:11 who is none other than Satan.

  23. Johaar says:

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  24. Bobby Fletcher says:

    funny seeing all the jesuits and masons frantically using their tactics here. sad

  25. offkeylocked says:

    The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he did not exist!
    What better place to hide and lead that in the guise of church…
    From the very beginning with the translation of God’s ” ” word….(Masons translated the Bible )

  26. Essence says:

    Morning guys, i see you all don’t understand. Jesus Christ never spoke about convincing people to be Christians. he never sent the Holy spirit to convince people or cause debates about God, heaven and religion. for starters there is no such thing as christian unless by man standards, see Act 11,26. The names by which the disciples were known among themselves were “brethren,” “the faithful,” “elect,” “saints,” “believers.” that is how we should look at ourselves as well and not as an organisation. i like what the masons do, refering to thier course as Brotherly love driven. as for Christians they are driven by self gain and self upliftment rather than caring for your family first before you can devote to any religious activity. you cannot be a freemason unless you can take care of your family. but christians spend everything they have in pastors, fake pasters and hurch dnation in order to recieve a blessing from jesus. while th Lord said do the duties as a believer in the promises God in Heaven will reward you accordingly. Paul said for those with wives they have two responsibilities, the family and Go. how can you please God when you care less of what your family has on the table just that you can receive a better blessing. Christians lost the ways of Jesus the moment they became an organisation. Get up guys and focus on the teachings of Jesus and forget miracles and blessings. its about the new earth, eternity and not personal gain. Lastly Gary you fast to react. please the mason teaches intellectual development… :laugh: so brother dont debate it correct it by focusing on the mission. :like: those who dont understand refer them to Jesus in prayer. and gather the brotherens for a vist inorder to support them in whatsoevr they lack in, maybe they will understand waht it mens to be freemason. lol im not one but thought i shoul intervine….

  27. You may be a nice guy with brotherly love oozing from your heart. However, the question we should ask, is – WHO ARE YOU WORSHIPING?

    http://www.ephesians5-11.org/gllink.htm

  28. Tim says:

    Yes. thats true.I was with Doxa Deo Church in Pretoria fighting the scourge of crime,prostitution and drugs at the Burgers Park and ANC heavy weights from the ANC ,its youth league and womens league were regulars at the adjacent HOliday Inn which was in fact the freemasons headquarters.A room was named after Mandela.Mbeki became a freemason while in exile and he was a double agent being sponsored by the freemasons with penthouses in paris and import cigars and wines.Tutu was a scientologist and his office in Bishopscourt and America were manned by well known scientologists! His chaplain was a double agent belonging to the senior structures of the Anglican church and scientology!South Africa is now a freemasons country and it is no more being ruled constitutionally but from Luthuli House.

  29. Tim says:

    We must work together to build a new world order.That was Ramaphosa`s invitation when he said;we must work together to build…a New World Order is that a secretive power elite with a globalist agenda is conspiring to eventually rule the world through an authoritarian world government—which will replace sovereign nation-states—and an all-encompassing propaganda whose ideology hails the establishment of the New World Order as the culmination of history’s progress. Many influential historical and contemporary figures have therefore been alleged to be part of a cabal that operates through many front organizations to orchestrate significant political and financial events, ranging from causing systemic crises to pushing through controversial policies, at both national and international levels, as steps in an ongoing plot to achieve world domination.We must work together to build a new world order.

  30. Tim Singiswa says:

    A new world order country serve to heighten the guilt of sin.Its a brutal country worse than despotic,dictatorial or authoritarian countries!Its more of a country imposed with martial law because citizens civil rights are denied and the only people who have rights its the armed forces like swat and cops!Its ruled by the media through lie,denial,influence,deceits,bluffs and propaganda and citizens and rulers are two separate entities!The rulers rule over citizens with the shadow government and citizen`s views are not desired!I mean,citizens were never contacted when the decision to write our passports in a foreign language;citizens are never consulted as regards the proliferation of foreigners and police are a quasi-police as it fight people not crime!nwo countries are infested with crime,drugs,grime,overcrowding,poor service delivery like waste management plan implementation,insecuring citizens and unleashing menacing people over defenceless ordinary people!

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