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		By: cecilia		</title>
		<link>https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/07/04/love-casts-out-all-hell/#comment-924</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 12:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[thanks D! the &quot;left-overs&quot; of certain way of thinking has just gone, and it was so easy. i didn&#039;t even had to argue with you or throw stones at you! I just couldn&#039;t find it in the Word of God! God bless ya! next yr must come quickly! c]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks D! the &#8220;left-overs&#8221; of certain way of thinking has just gone, and it was so easy. i didn&#8217;t even had to argue with you or throw stones at you! I just couldn&#8217;t find it in the Word of God! God bless ya! next yr must come quickly! c</p>
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		By: Discerning The World		</title>
		<link>https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/07/04/love-casts-out-all-hell/#comment-926</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 10:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2014/06/08/prt-1-a-biblical-appraisal-of-the-mosaic-congress-mosaic-church-johannesburg-4-5-sep-09/#comment-2432&quot;&gt;Hrugnir&lt;/a&gt;.

C

&#062;&#062; I didn&#039;t even have to argue with you or throw stones at you..

Thank goodness, cos I have a collection of stones that have been thrown at me and I&#039;ve run out of place to put them.  They are just piling up here on the side, more blocking the view of the tv if anything ahaha ;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2014/06/08/prt-1-a-biblical-appraisal-of-the-mosaic-congress-mosaic-church-johannesburg-4-5-sep-09/#comment-2432" >Hrugnir</a>.</p>
<p>C</p>
<p>&gt;&gt; I didn&#8217;t even have to argue with you or throw stones at you..</p>
<p>Thank goodness, cos I have a collection of stones that have been thrown at me and I&#8217;ve run out of place to put them.  They are just piling up here on the side, more blocking the view of the tv if anything ahaha 😉</p>
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		By: Discerning The World		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 07:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/12/13/rick-warren-a-recipe-for-disaster/#comment-2426&quot;&gt;Deborah (Discerning the World)&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi C

They only want to know who I am to hurt me; verbally, spiritually, emotionally etc.  And I would not underestimate their feelings of hate either that might cause me physical harm.

And indeed I am in no way afraid of meeting people :)  And you are 100% correct that I am alerted by the Holy Spirit as to who I can trust and can&#039;t.  Who has bad intentions and who doesn&#039;t.

When someone who follows other gods, prays for you, or tries to give you a blessing, you are to reject it outright. And of course this is going to offend them.  And if one has in their lives at one time accepted prayer from people who are not believers in Jesus Christ the Son of God and are not born again, even had hands laid on them, or even had people reach their hands out to you - all you need to do is repent of your sin through our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, tell Him you are sorry for falling for such tactics- even though you were unaware at the time, the Holy Spirit will make one aware to these things, will convict you and you obey through repentance of sin.

It&#039;s not that what they say will actually come back to them, because it was in them all along - sin.  What &lt;strong&gt;they say judges them &lt;/strong&gt;and if they do not repent of their sin, God will judge them personally.

This saying of &#039;what you say will come back to you if what you say is not good or even good for that matter will come back to you is reminiscent of karma and the law of return and actually white magic believe it or not.

Most of the time, we believe this stuff because this is what we were told by a &lt;em&gt;Christian &lt;/em&gt;pastor in church.   But when you read the scriptures you will see that they have taken scripture and twisted it.

It&#039;s like that verse, Death and life are in the power of the tongue, but they fail to mention the rest of the verse(s) - it&#039;s about gossip.  And we all know that gossip (lies) can destroy someone.  But why does the gossiper gossip?  Because, of the sin in their lives.  They are already condemned if they do not repent.  So it&#039;s not that their gossip will come back to them - the sin in their lives is what alrealy condemns them and repentance through Jesus Christ and acceptance of His sacrifice for us on the cross is the only thing that will set them free.

&lt;strong&gt;Proverbs 18:21&lt;/strong&gt;

21 Death and life are in the power of the tongue, And those who love it will eat its fruit.

&lt;strong&gt;Proverbs 12:13&lt;/strong&gt;

13 An evil man is ensnared by the transgression of his lips, But the righteous will escape from trouble.

&lt;strong&gt;Proverbs 13:3&lt;/strong&gt;

13 The one who guards his mouth preserves his life; The one who opens wide his lips comes to ruin

&lt;strong&gt;Matthew 12:37&lt;/strong&gt;

37 &quot;For &lt;strong&gt;by your words you will be justified&lt;/strong&gt;, and &lt;strong&gt;by your words you will be condemned&lt;/strong&gt;.&quot;

See you next year :) And I don&#039;t mean that you must stop commenting here and start again next year...hahaha...you know what I mean.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/12/13/rick-warren-a-recipe-for-disaster/#comment-2426" >Deborah (Discerning the World)</a>.</p>
<p>Hi C</p>
<p>They only want to know who I am to hurt me; verbally, spiritually, emotionally etc.  And I would not underestimate their feelings of hate either that might cause me physical harm.</p>
<p>And indeed I am in no way afraid of meeting people 🙂  And you are 100% correct that I am alerted by the Holy Spirit as to who I can trust and can&#8217;t.  Who has bad intentions and who doesn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>When someone who follows other gods, prays for you, or tries to give you a blessing, you are to reject it outright. And of course this is going to offend them.  And if one has in their lives at one time accepted prayer from people who are not believers in Jesus Christ the Son of God and are not born again, even had hands laid on them, or even had people reach their hands out to you &#8211; all you need to do is repent of your sin through our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, tell Him you are sorry for falling for such tactics- even though you were unaware at the time, the Holy Spirit will make one aware to these things, will convict you and you obey through repentance of sin.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not that what they say will actually come back to them, because it was in them all along &#8211; sin.  What <strong>they say judges them </strong>and if they do not repent of their sin, God will judge them personally.</p>
<p>This saying of &#8216;what you say will come back to you if what you say is not good or even good for that matter will come back to you is reminiscent of karma and the law of return and actually white magic believe it or not.</p>
<p>Most of the time, we believe this stuff because this is what we were told by a <em>Christian </em>pastor in church.   But when you read the scriptures you will see that they have taken scripture and twisted it.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like that verse, Death and life are in the power of the tongue, but they fail to mention the rest of the verse(s) &#8211; it&#8217;s about gossip.  And we all know that gossip (lies) can destroy someone.  But why does the gossiper gossip?  Because, of the sin in their lives.  They are already condemned if they do not repent.  So it&#8217;s not that their gossip will come back to them &#8211; the sin in their lives is what alrealy condemns them and repentance through Jesus Christ and acceptance of His sacrifice for us on the cross is the only thing that will set them free.</p>
<p><strong>Proverbs 18:21</strong></p>
<p>21 Death and life are in the power of the tongue, And those who love it will eat its fruit.</p>
<p><strong>Proverbs 12:13</strong></p>
<p>13 An evil man is ensnared by the transgression of his lips, But the righteous will escape from trouble.</p>
<p><strong>Proverbs 13:3</strong></p>
<p>13 The one who guards his mouth preserves his life; The one who opens wide his lips comes to ruin</p>
<p><strong>Matthew 12:37</strong></p>
<p>37 &#8220;For <strong>by your words you will be justified</strong>, and <strong>by your words you will be condemned</strong>.&#8221;</p>
<p>See you next year 🙂 And I don&#8217;t mean that you must stop commenting here and start again next year&#8230;hahaha&#8230;you know what I mean.</p>
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		By: cecilia		</title>
		<link>https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/07/04/love-casts-out-all-hell/#comment-923</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 22:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Whaau DTW, you r becoming very famous, many people want 2 meet u, want 2 know u ... I 2 was accused of being &quot;overly discerned&quot;, &quot;too controversial&quot;, more or less much of the names u r being called. I withdrew (4 a time), just observing, listening, waiting on the LORD. I came 2 t conclusion: people want 2 &quot;control&quot; the &quot;ministry / gifting&quot; of/in other people; because they don&#039;t understand how Holy Spirit is working in each individual; in the process they who speak out against &quot;accusers&quot; themselves turn into accusers; and so many are trapped in this accusing &quot;game&quot; just because the one wants to understand the other the way he wants 2. In scripture different functions are dealt out by Holy Spirit: some speak in love; some are axes, 2 break down &#038; rebuilt; some teach, rebuke, correct and train in righteousness. 2 discern in THIS manner, is DTW&#039;s &quot;task&quot; in this time &#038; NO-ONE will b able / gifted 2 do it exactly this manner.
I can stand 4 it that you DTW are NOT afraid to meet people (personal experience sea?). neither to share ur whereabouts - BUT you DTW are alerted by Holy Spirit who you can trust 2 keep the info 4 themselves.
reading all the comments, it seems 2 me that many want 2 be followed - in it almost forcing readers 2 agree/understand what they feel/believe; not so many r willing 2 b followers of &quot;the Word being made flesh&quot;.
I also know that when a negative word is spoken or even a curse, or even black or white magic - if the follower of Jesus Christ whom it is directed to, don&#039;t receive it - it will return to sender. SO PLEASE ALL BLOGGERS OUT THERE - stop this &quot;cursing/warnings&quot; whether you clothe it in black or white. it&#039;s too high a price to pay. rather concentrate on your own blogs. God is in control, not us (sometimes pathetic) human beings!
I am committed 2 t path the LORD has directed me, so I will not b influenced by re-actions.
DTW, keep up ur good research. Keep Standing! cecilia]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whaau DTW, you r becoming very famous, many people want 2 meet u, want 2 know u &#8230; I 2 was accused of being &#8220;overly discerned&#8221;, &#8220;too controversial&#8221;, more or less much of the names u r being called. I withdrew (4 a time), just observing, listening, waiting on the LORD. I came 2 t conclusion: people want 2 &#8220;control&#8221; the &#8220;ministry / gifting&#8221; of/in other people; because they don&#8217;t understand how Holy Spirit is working in each individual; in the process they who speak out against &#8220;accusers&#8221; themselves turn into accusers; and so many are trapped in this accusing &#8220;game&#8221; just because the one wants to understand the other the way he wants 2. In scripture different functions are dealt out by Holy Spirit: some speak in love; some are axes, 2 break down &amp; rebuilt; some teach, rebuke, correct and train in righteousness. 2 discern in THIS manner, is DTW&#8217;s &#8220;task&#8221; in this time &amp; NO-ONE will b able / gifted 2 do it exactly this manner.<br />
I can stand 4 it that you DTW are NOT afraid to meet people (personal experience sea?). neither to share ur whereabouts &#8211; BUT you DTW are alerted by Holy Spirit who you can trust 2 keep the info 4 themselves.<br />
reading all the comments, it seems 2 me that many want 2 be followed &#8211; in it almost forcing readers 2 agree/understand what they feel/believe; not so many r willing 2 b followers of &#8220;the Word being made flesh&#8221;.<br />
I also know that when a negative word is spoken or even a curse, or even black or white magic &#8211; if the follower of Jesus Christ whom it is directed to, don&#8217;t receive it &#8211; it will return to sender. SO PLEASE ALL BLOGGERS OUT THERE &#8211; stop this &#8220;cursing/warnings&#8221; whether you clothe it in black or white. it&#8217;s too high a price to pay. rather concentrate on your own blogs. God is in control, not us (sometimes pathetic) human beings!<br />
I am committed 2 t path the LORD has directed me, so I will not b influenced by re-actions.<br />
DTW, keep up ur good research. Keep Standing! cecilia</p>
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		By: Francois		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 12:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Where do I live?

Hi Nic. Havent been back to Deborah&#039;s sit for a while. Been distracted.

I live in Randburg. If I thought it would be beneficial to meet I would but would it?

If you do not see your writing as blasphemous what use would it do we chat? You insinuate that the devil is in Jesus and Jesus in the devil. No amount of face-to-face conversation can help if you defend this, or am I wrong?

[number removed by DTW] if you want to chat or meet but don&#039;t waste my or your time if you truly believe this.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where do I live?</p>
<p>Hi Nic. Havent been back to Deborah&#8217;s sit for a while. Been distracted.</p>
<p>I live in Randburg. If I thought it would be beneficial to meet I would but would it?</p>
<p>If you do not see your writing as blasphemous what use would it do we chat? You insinuate that the devil is in Jesus and Jesus in the devil. No amount of face-to-face conversation can help if you defend this, or am I wrong?</p>
<p>[number removed by DTW] if you want to chat or meet but don&#8217;t waste my or your time if you truly believe this.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/12/01/your-sons-and-your-daughters-will-prophesy-but-not-yet/#comment-2117&quot;&gt;cecilia&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I ask you to consider what you are doing, especially the damage you are causing to the body of Christ.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The body of Christ is made up of those saints who are justified by grace alone through faith alone in Christ&#039;s righteousness alone. That is it. All others are excluded. They should repent and believe the true Gospel. False teachers who want to widen the gate and let more in, hurt the body of Christ by spreading their doubts about the Word of God around. They obscure the sufficiency of the Gospel by adding works. This allows them to pretend the good Muslim must be saved, because God loves good works and will not send someone to hell if he has done some of that. Wrong. The Lord will only accept perfection, not good efforts. Those who refuse to accept Jesus Christ&#039;s finished work on their behalf, will find that the Lord will not lower His standards to accommodate them. The Gospel causes division, like it is supposed to do, but the emergents cannot stand it. They imagine they are doing pretty good keeping the LAW of LOVE.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/12/01/your-sons-and-your-daughters-will-prophesy-but-not-yet/#comment-2117" >cecilia</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>I ask you to consider what you are doing, especially the damage you are causing to the body of Christ.</p></blockquote>
<p>The body of Christ is made up of those saints who are justified by grace alone through faith alone in Christ&#8217;s righteousness alone. That is it. All others are excluded. They should repent and believe the true Gospel. False teachers who want to widen the gate and let more in, hurt the body of Christ by spreading their doubts about the Word of God around. They obscure the sufficiency of the Gospel by adding works. This allows them to pretend the good Muslim must be saved, because God loves good works and will not send someone to hell if he has done some of that. Wrong. The Lord will only accept perfection, not good efforts. Those who refuse to accept Jesus Christ&#8217;s finished work on their behalf, will find that the Lord will not lower His standards to accommodate them. The Gospel causes division, like it is supposed to do, but the emergents cannot stand it. They imagine they are doing pretty good keeping the LAW of LOVE.</p>
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		By: Eugene Roberts		</title>
		<link>https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/07/04/love-casts-out-all-hell/#comment-872</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2014/01/08/which-steps-have-you-taken-to-aid-world-transformation/#comment-2137&quot;&gt;Deborah (Discerning the World)&lt;/a&gt;.

Shhhhh, I&#039;m a undercover fundamentalist spying on the Emergent Gevaar... ;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2014/01/08/which-steps-have-you-taken-to-aid-world-transformation/#comment-2137" >Deborah (Discerning the World)</a>.</p>
<p>Shhhhh, I&#8217;m a undercover fundamentalist spying on the Emergent Gevaar&#8230; 😉</p>
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		By: Eugene Roberts		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 08:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/12/17/mark-driscolls-resurgence-and-emergence-with-catholicism/#comment-2123&quot;&gt;Deborah (Discerning the World)&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;ve got a flame thrower hidden in my garage... You can use it if you want to ;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/12/17/mark-driscolls-resurgence-and-emergence-with-catholicism/#comment-2123" >Deborah (Discerning the World)</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got a flame thrower hidden in my garage&#8230; You can use it if you want to 😉</p>
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		By: Discerning The World		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 06:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2014/01/08/which-steps-have-you-taken-to-aid-world-transformation/#comment-2137&quot;&gt;Deborah (Discerning the World)&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;em&gt;You&#039;ve &lt;/em&gt;got a flame thrower?  Now that is hardcore-fundamentalism.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2014/01/08/which-steps-have-you-taken-to-aid-world-transformation/#comment-2137" >Deborah (Discerning the World)</a>.</p>
<p><em>You&#8217;ve </em>got a flame thrower?  Now that is hardcore-fundamentalism.</p>
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		By: Discerning The World		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 06:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2014/01/08/which-steps-have-you-taken-to-aid-world-transformation/#comment-2137&quot;&gt;Deborah (Discerning the World)&lt;/a&gt;.

Nah I think he is pretty dead.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2014/01/08/which-steps-have-you-taken-to-aid-world-transformation/#comment-2137" >Deborah (Discerning the World)</a>.</p>
<p>Nah I think he is pretty dead.</p>
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