Dear Amanda

My my but you can only lie. I quoted IOL.co.za regarding a jet, no helicopter was ever mentioned by us – you mentioned the helicopter 1st time here. You think everyone is stupid and can’t read. You can try blacken our name through lies because WE DISCERN by the Holy Spirit that Angus Buchan through his own words (see video below) is part and parcel of the Roman Catholic Church. We do not hate anyone, you hate us for discerning the truth. You are using this silly jet and helicopter ‘lie’ to hide from the truth that Angus Buchan is Catholic. You say you follow Jesus Christ and follow Him only, yet it seems you will protect Angus, and falsely accuse us instead.

Ohhhhh lookie what I found…. 🙂

If you don’t want to read, please LISTEN to Angus Buchan in his OWN WORDS. It’s a very short video, it really wont waste any of your time. You can hear Most Reverend Archbishop Angus Buchan say he believes in the HOLY CATHOLIC CHURCH at 10 seconds into the video, and he gets thousands upon thousands of people to pray after him. Will you pray this prayer with Angus, Amanda? Wink/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4RYMauUFTQ

You said “How insulting to question my experience. I did not say a whirlwind was the Holy Spirit falling as on the day of Pentecost.”

We are not insulting your experience we are QUESTIONING the validity of your experience. Bible says we are to test everything does it not?

1 John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

You originally said “one was about asking God about praying in tongues and a whirlwind”.

So if the Holy Spirit was not the whirlwind according to your words, you said; “I did not say a whirlwind was the Holy Spirit”, who or what was the whirlwind then?

You said the “Holy Spirit wants me to stop now, so I will let you go in peace” Are you sure it’s the Holy Spirit and not another spirit – who doesn’t want you to see the truth?

We love you so much Amanda that we are willing to argue with you till the cows come home to show you the TRUTH (that you steadfastly refuse to believe).

By the way, we don’t expect an apology from you for all your lies and false accusations against us ok? :hug:

Amanda, this seems to apply to you. And please take note, I am quoting this with much love and affection.

Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. (2 Timothy 3:7).

You wrote:

Angus is not preaching another gospel. He preaches Jesus Christ as Son of God, crucified, resurrected. How is that another gospel?

Yes, and so does Pope Francis and the Roman Catholic Church and God calls them “MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.” (Revelation 17:5).

Oh dearie me, I’m so sorry. I shouldn’t have quoted Revelation 17:5 because it is so UNLOVING to call anyone a harlot, let alone a church who preaches Jesus Christ as Son of God, crucified, and resurrected. Please forgive me.

https://www.catholic.org/clife/jesus/webelieve.php

Before you leave in the spirit of the “Holy Spirit” and in peace, would you mind telling us how you were saved?

I speak in love but you don’t. No I did not make up lies about Rodney Howard-Browne. I do see your sarcasm.

How insulting to question my experience. I did not say a whirlwind was the Holy Spirit falling as on the day of Pentecost. Again you lie about me and that’s why I said I won’t cast my pearls for it indeed got trampled even though I did not even expand on what happened.

It is my choice to click and read or not. I have read enough and don’t care for anymore on your site because even here I discern hatred especially from you Tom.

Angus is not preaching another gospel. He preaches Jesus Christ as Son of God, crucified, resurrected. How is that another gospel?

But anyway, now you turn against me and my experience. 🙂 My God is very much alive and active in my life, even when He is quiet. I know very well what Jesus meant by the casting pearls etc. I even made a verse pic about it the other day on my Christian page. But here it was certainly trampled on. I operate by the Holy Spirit. So do not grieve the Holy Spirit in me. I too stand on the word of God. I trust in no man (or woman).

Holy Spirit wants me to stop now, so I will let you go in peace. Bye/

Dear Amanda

You said “Too many links…sorry, but I don’t have time.”

I knew you would say that. 😀 You have time to listen to a false teacher David Owuor but you just don’dont have time to read an article handed to you on a silver platter. Here I will put 1 link for you to make it super easy for you. You will stand before God one day and He will remind you of this moment.

Read this article where Angus prays and says he believes in the Holy Catholic Church: https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2017/04/19/angus-buchan-time-unite-faiths-under-rome/

Angus Buchan called Rodney Howard-Browne his brother, as in ‘brother in Christ’. What an insult to Jesus Christ. Do you think the Apostle Paul went around calling false teachers ‘brothers in Christ’? No.

Looks like you will do anything, think anything and say anything to believe in Angus Buchan.

When you go visit the Pope (by invitation only) Amanda you are required to kiss the Pope’s ring Amanda…in other words you acknowledge him as the vicar of Christ and the Catholic church as your Mother church. Graham Power did not go to preach the truth to the Pope, but instead to discuss the ‘transformation’ of Africa to the Roan CAtholic church via the false unholy spirit that is spreading like FIRE and generally comes like a whirlwind. Here is another link explaining the difference between the Holy Spirit and the false unholy spirit. https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2012/06/23/the-biblical-holy-spirit-vs-the-false-unholy-spirit-of-fire/

You said “one was about asking God about praying in tongues and a whirlwind, but I won’t go into detail, I won’t bother to cast my pearls where it will only be trampled.”

Matthew 7:6 “Do not give what is holy to dogs or throw your pearls before pigs; otherwise they will trample them under their feet and turn around and tear you to pieces.”

Jesus uses dogs and pigs as representative of those who would ridicule, reject, and blaspheme the gospel once it is presented to them.

Thanks for insinuating we are pigs, and blaspheming the Holy Spirit because we believe the Word of God over your ‘experience’… what a nice person you are. I can clearly see the spirit by which you operate. You are not presenting the gospel to us, you are telling us about an EXPERIENCE you had and you have no proof other than your words that go against the gospel. Big difference. You asked God for something that He tells you in His Word has ceased. Do you think He is going to go against His Word? No. But someone else listened to your unbiblical request and gave you want your ‘wicked heart’ desired.

No one was more charismatic than the Apostle Paul, yet God revealed to him that those sign gifts were going to cease. Here is the gospel Amanda:

1 Corinthians 13:8 “Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.”

Your infatuation with this ‘jet’ and now ‘helicopter’ is very funny.

HI Amanda, I have a few questions for you. You wrote,

Angus thinks the wind at his meetings is the Holy Spirit at work. What harm is there in that? It seems he experiences God very literally. How can you deny when he says he spoke in tongues and sang in tongues? There are things God has done in my life that was supernatural, one was about asking God about praying in tongues and a whirlwind, but I won’t go into detail, I won’t bother to cast my pearls where it will only be trampled.

What is wrong with that? Well, it is a lie and all lies come from Satan and not God the Holy Spirit, or the Father, or Jesus Christ (John 8:44). Do you really think God sees no harm in that? I really think you should make sure whether your experience with God is a pearl and not something else. The Holy Spirit was poured out once at Pentecost in a spectacular way and will never again be poured out in that way.

You say you discerned Rodney Howard-Browne long ago. Don’t you mean you spoke ill and with hatred of him?

You say oom Angus should stay away from false prophets. My question: How can he stay away when he himself is a false prophet? False prophets believe we should put aside our petty doctrines and come together as a people – Roman Catholics, Presbyterians, Methodists, Dutch Reformed, Cosmic Christ believers etc. etc. He was not only nice to Rodney Howard-Browne. He blessed him and bid him Godspeed.

Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds. (2 John 1:9-11)

I suppose you would also accuse Paul of lovelessness when he says:

But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preaches any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed (anathema – cast int hell). (Gal 1:8-9).

Anyone who speaks of Jesus and the Holy Spirit at his meetings but encourages his followers to put aside their doctrines so that we may unite with others’, is a false prophet. PERIOD! If he is for Jesus and not against Him, as you say, he would never have said anything so demeaning of Christ’s doctrines as he did in a YouTube video. I said it before and I’ll say it again. You too are making yourself guilty of 2 John 11. I really think you should repent of that.

You wrote:

My husband went to Mitchell’s Plain prayer day in Cape Town. It was free, everything was free. There was prayer, people came to salvation.

Multitudes of people came to “salvation” at Billy Graham’s meetings. These so-called salvations were merely used as a means to send them back to the Roman Catholic Church.

And would you please stop your jet and helicopter story. I already said it’s not important.

I discerned Rodney Howard Brown long ago. I am absolutely not a fan. Maybe Angus is only being ‘nice’ with people. If I were Angus, I would stay clear of the false prophets. But maybe he does not know that they are! I also know Rick Joyner, Todd Bentley and many of the ‘Elijah list’ prophets are false prophets.
Maybe I am wrong about Angus, but until I hear with my own ears that he praises the Catholics and the pope and says something unbiblical, I won’t believe that he is not of God. Meeting with the pope does not make one false. I won’t care to, but to each his own.
I am disappointed that the dams in Cape Town are not full as he said they would be in March 2018. The atheists are having a field day with that. But I prefer to give people the benefit of the doubt, because he did not say God said so, he said that from himself. So I take it he was speaking in faith and it did not happen according to his faith. Anything he does in the Name of God that is not from God, he will answer to God for that, for that is taking the Name of our Lord in vain.

Has Angus actually ever said that he is a prophet? I have never heard him say that, only some of his followers claim that. I don’t. How about you guys go after the real false prophets like Dr. David Owuor. Now if there ever was a false prophet, that one is it, yet he preaches repentance and holiness! Owuor also preaches false pre-trib rapture.
His latest videos on Youtube channel “Repent and prepare the way” @ https://www.youtube.com/user/chitywa are crazy. He claims he is the two witnesses from Revelation, that “God doubled his prophet”. :ohno: Check/ He claims he is the “ancient prophet of God”. He claims that He caused the earth in Kenya to split, regarding the huge crack that opened up in Kenya. Fake fake fake photo manipulations in his videos, too ridiculous to even bother to mention, yet he has a following. Owuor is using fear to threaten those who oppose him.

Angus thinks the wind at his meetings is the Holy Spirit at work. What harm is there in that? It seems he experiences God very literally. How can you deny when he says he spoke in tongues and sang in tongues? There are things God has done in my life that was supernatural, one was about asking God about praying in tongues and a whirlwind, but I won’t go into detail, I won’t bother to cast my pearls where it will only be trampled. Oh and no pastor or anyone was involved with that or influenced me or experienced it with me, just God and I. Maybe it was nothing, but I know that I know it was God answering me. God is a God with whom nothing is impossible if we will only believe, have the faith Abraham had. I have faith. Granted sometimes I have faith and what I am asking of God, He does not grant me. I am okay with that, for God knows best even if I do not understand why. I love Him nonetheless. His grace is enough for me. I believe like Job, though He slay me, yet will I trust Him.

May God be merciful to all of us who can only see the splinter in another’s eye and not the beam in our own. May God open our eyes to our own lovelessness towards the brethren when all we can do is demonise everyone. God have mercy on us all. May God bless His church and open our eyes to the false prophets. There are many. I don’t care much for anyone’s titles. To me it is all about Jesus, not a mere fallible man.

My husband went to Mitchell’s Plain prayer day in Cape Town. It was free, everything was free. There was prayer, people came to salvation. I already mentioned that I don’t agree with everything he says, like when he demanded everyone go to Bloemfontein and that praying in our rooms is good but not what God wants for that day, but to be there in Bloem. Would I ever go to an Angus gathering?…I don’t know, I don’t think so, but I won’t run him down, because he speaks of the love of God but also warns people to repent, just like the Spirit in Revelation says to the churches, to repent. Angus is not against Jesus, he is for Jesus. Angus believes in the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit who are one.

God bless you.†♥
P.S. Too many links…sorry, but I don’t have time. And no Angus does not have a jet or helicopter. He said so himself in one of his videos.

Hi Tom

Very sad…

I don’t think Amanda will come back. Her god, Angus Buchan, is standing in her way and preventing her from finding the truth.