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		By: Discerning the World		</title>
		<link>https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/06/26/satan-trickster-embracing-emerging-snake/#comment-863</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 07:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/05/26/tb-joshua-false-miracle-man/#comment-1151&quot;&gt;Deborah (Discerning the World)&lt;/a&gt;.

C, don&#039;t get too worked up over &#039;Pastor&#039; Chad.  He was the one who made the replica of my blog. He has a mind of filth.  Unfortuantely for him and his 1/10 working braincell - he forgets some of his congregation has access to internet and have seen what he has done and the things he has said across the internet.   They emailed me.  Ooopsss for Chad.  I think some of them even contacted Duke Divinity School and the Methodist whatever board he belongs too.

All I had to do was sit back and watch how one of his emergent friends betrayed him and how one person from his congregation found him commenting on my website and that let them to reading Nics website and Iggy&#039;s stuff.  Well...they didn&#039;t take it well.

So leave Chad to his own devices.  He burnt his toast a while ago already and does not even know it...probably never will.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/05/26/tb-joshua-false-miracle-man/#comment-1151" >Deborah (Discerning the World)</a>.</p>
<p>C, don&#8217;t get too worked up over &#8216;Pastor&#8217; Chad.  He was the one who made the replica of my blog. He has a mind of filth.  Unfortuantely for him and his 1/10 working braincell &#8211; he forgets some of his congregation has access to internet and have seen what he has done and the things he has said across the internet.   They emailed me.  Ooopsss for Chad.  I think some of them even contacted Duke Divinity School and the Methodist whatever board he belongs too.</p>
<p>All I had to do was sit back and watch how one of his emergent friends betrayed him and how one person from his congregation found him commenting on my website and that let them to reading Nics website and Iggy&#8217;s stuff.  Well&#8230;they didn&#8217;t take it well.</p>
<p>So leave Chad to his own devices.  He burnt his toast a while ago already and does not even know it&#8230;probably never will.</p>
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		By: cecilia		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 21:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Chad reply to Amanda1 July, 2009
Love the Lord your Godand your neighbor as yourself. Who is my neighbor? The answer comes back:  Even your most hated enemy And how does one show love to such people? Not by beating them over the head with your own perceptions of truth but by being a friend, by being in community with others, by lending a helping hand, by caring for the sick, by giving a drink of water, a plate of food, a shelter. That is love.
&#062; Matthew 5: 44But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, (NIV, NASB, Amplified, NLT, ESV, NKJV, ASV, TNIV)
44But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; (KJV)
44But I tell you to love your enemies and pray for anyone who mistreats you. (CEV)
44 But I say to you, love your enemies. Pray for those who hurt you. (NCV)
44But I tell you, love your enemies. Ask God to do good to those who trouble you. (Worldwide English)
NOT ONE OF THESE mention your most hated enemy. As a matter of fact, even Bibles in other Languages dont have those words in.
This is where (I feel) one of the main roots of distortion lies  in the extras. Put in an extra word or phrase, so people will understand it. Says who? Your enemy is your enemy. No. differentiation between two of those. In this scripture it doesnt say that your neighbour is even your most hated enemy. Chad, you are putting Mtt. 22:37-39 (Luk. 10:27) in the same sentence as Mtt. 5:44. You should know as a pastor not to do that? In fact, in Luk. 10, an expert in the law stood up to test Jesus with the question who is my neighbor?, Jesus went on and replied with a story about &quot;A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho (NOT mentioning of what nationality the man was), and robbers stripped him (not mentioning the nationality of the robbers); these 2 people (ya, maybe representing these 2 nationalities) avoid the scène (didnt want to get involved, whether by law or other reasons) -  priest , levite; then the Samaritan helped him. Jesus asked  36&quot;Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man . . .  they answered &quot;The one who had mercy on him.&quot; Then Jesus told this law-expert to go do the same. I often ask WHY DO people tend to add extras to the Word of God? because in doing so, you distort the original and the meaning thereof.

Chad said on July 2nd, 2009 at 13:37
Please, feel free to show where anything I have said or any of my friends stands in direct contradiction to Scripture. This is your chance to show me, a lowly pastor, the error of my ways and perhaps you can save an entire congregation from the pits of hell.  Chad, the adding to the Scripture above, is one example to answer your question here. And please dont belittle yourself by calling yourself names (I highlighted your words). YOU are saying it Chad, not others. Go and talk things out with the LORD God, all by yourself; wait on Him and HE will show you the error(s) of your way(s); and Chad, YOU are the pastor / shepherd of that flock! They are YOUR responsibility, God will ask them of YOUR hand. DTW has got NOTHING to do with saving your congregation from the pits of hell (pheeewww, I cant believe such language and thoughts can come from a pastor ....) cecilia]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chad reply to Amanda1 July, 2009<br />
Love the Lord your Godand your neighbor as yourself. Who is my neighbor? The answer comes back:  Even your most hated enemy And how does one show love to such people? Not by beating them over the head with your own perceptions of truth but by being a friend, by being in community with others, by lending a helping hand, by caring for the sick, by giving a drink of water, a plate of food, a shelter. That is love.<br />
&gt; Matthew 5: 44But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, (NIV, NASB, Amplified, NLT, ESV, NKJV, ASV, TNIV)<br />
44But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; (KJV)<br />
44But I tell you to love your enemies and pray for anyone who mistreats you. (CEV)<br />
44 But I say to you, love your enemies. Pray for those who hurt you. (NCV)<br />
44But I tell you, love your enemies. Ask God to do good to those who trouble you. (Worldwide English)<br />
NOT ONE OF THESE mention your most hated enemy. As a matter of fact, even Bibles in other Languages dont have those words in.<br />
This is where (I feel) one of the main roots of distortion lies  in the extras. Put in an extra word or phrase, so people will understand it. Says who? Your enemy is your enemy. No. differentiation between two of those. In this scripture it doesnt say that your neighbour is even your most hated enemy. Chad, you are putting Mtt. 22:37-39 (Luk. 10:27) in the same sentence as Mtt. 5:44. You should know as a pastor not to do that? In fact, in Luk. 10, an expert in the law stood up to test Jesus with the question who is my neighbor?, Jesus went on and replied with a story about &#8220;A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho (NOT mentioning of what nationality the man was), and robbers stripped him (not mentioning the nationality of the robbers); these 2 people (ya, maybe representing these 2 nationalities) avoid the scène (didnt want to get involved, whether by law or other reasons) &#8211;  priest , levite; then the Samaritan helped him. Jesus asked  36&#8243;Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man . . .  they answered &#8220;The one who had mercy on him.&#8221; Then Jesus told this law-expert to go do the same. I often ask WHY DO people tend to add extras to the Word of God? because in doing so, you distort the original and the meaning thereof.</p>
<p>Chad said on July 2nd, 2009 at 13:37<br />
Please, feel free to show where anything I have said or any of my friends stands in direct contradiction to Scripture. This is your chance to show me, a lowly pastor, the error of my ways and perhaps you can save an entire congregation from the pits of hell.  Chad, the adding to the Scripture above, is one example to answer your question here. And please dont belittle yourself by calling yourself names (I highlighted your words). YOU are saying it Chad, not others. Go and talk things out with the LORD God, all by yourself; wait on Him and HE will show you the error(s) of your way(s); and Chad, YOU are the pastor / shepherd of that flock! They are YOUR responsibility, God will ask them of YOUR hand. DTW has got NOTHING to do with saving your congregation from the pits of hell (pheeewww, I cant believe such language and thoughts can come from a pastor &#8230;.) cecilia</p>
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		By: Discerning The World		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 11:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/12/09/are-catholics-christian/#comment-2053&quot;&gt;cecilia&lt;/a&gt;.

Chad

&#062;&#062;  &quot;....the truth about your loveless religion &quot;

&lt;strong&gt;Ryan do you agree with that, what Chad said that we preach a LOVELESS religion?&lt;/strong&gt;

Chad, I am sure you are copying and pasting all your comments else where as you have told me so many times.  Go to Nics blog and comment there.  Take some coffee with you and a picnic basket...

Run along now...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/12/09/are-catholics-christian/#comment-2053" >cecilia</a>.</p>
<p>Chad</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;  &#8220;&#8230;.the truth about your loveless religion &#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Ryan do you agree with that, what Chad said that we preach a LOVELESS religion?</strong></p>
<p>Chad, I am sure you are copying and pasting all your comments else where as you have told me so many times.  Go to Nics blog and comment there.  Take some coffee with you and a picnic basket&#8230;</p>
<p>Run along now&#8230;</p>
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		By: Chad		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 11:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/12/01/your-sons-and-your-daughters-will-prophesy-but-not-yet/#comment-2042&quot;&gt;cecilia&lt;/a&gt;.

Ha!  DTW, do you not notice that every time you get cornered and asked a question that exposes the truth about your loveless religion you delete me?    If it weren&#039;t so sad it would be hilarious.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/12/01/your-sons-and-your-daughters-will-prophesy-but-not-yet/#comment-2042" >cecilia</a>.</p>
<p>Ha!  DTW, do you not notice that every time you get cornered and asked a question that exposes the truth about your loveless religion you delete me?    If it weren&#8217;t so sad it would be hilarious.</p>
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		By: Chad		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 10:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/12/09/are-catholics-christian/#comment-2028&quot;&gt;Deborah (Discerning the World)&lt;/a&gt;.

DELETED - Chad when you learn to be nice I&#039;ll think about letting you comment here again.  Not sure when that is going to be...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/12/09/are-catholics-christian/#comment-2028" >Deborah (Discerning the World)</a>.</p>
<p>DELETED &#8211; Chad when you learn to be nice I&#8217;ll think about letting you comment here again.  Not sure when that is going to be&#8230;</p>
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		By: Discerning The World		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 08:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/12/01/your-sons-and-your-daughters-will-prophesy-but-not-yet/#comment-2022&quot;&gt;Deborah (Discerning the World)&lt;/a&gt;.

Yip I did.  In fact the entire Emergent gang who comes and comments here read another book.  I think it&#039;s Gulliver&#039;s Travels.

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Ryan said:&lt;/strong&gt;  Actually, the scripture you&#039;re probably thinking of is James 2:19:
You believe that God is one; well and good. Even the demons believe that – and tremble with fear.&quot;
The Scripture doesn&#039;t say demons believe in Jesus. What it says is not the same as &quot;believing in Jesus&quot; which means you put your trust in and you wholly rely on Jesus.
The demons don&#039;t &quot;believe in Jesus&quot;. They believe that God is one. In fact, I could perhaps say that they believe the FACTS of Jesus but don&#039;t believe in the PERSON, which was my point.
Demons don&#039;t pick up their cross and follow Jesus because they don&#039;t follow Jesus or believe in Him.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Comment here:  2009/06/30 at 9:53pm

And Ryan, they do believe Jesus exists, they believe He is the Son of God, they believe that He can torment them night and day, they believe.They believe He can destroy them in an instance. They don&#039;t however following him, they follow Satan, hence Satan has been trying to destroy the line of Jesus since the beginning of time.   Kinda just like this article that Nic wrote.

Also:

&lt;strong&gt;Philip. 2:9-11 &lt;/strong&gt;

9  Wherefore God also &lt;strong&gt;hath highly exalted him&lt;/strong&gt;, and &lt;strong&gt;given him a name which is above every name&lt;/strong&gt;:
10 That at the &lt;strong&gt;name of Jesus every knee should bow&lt;/strong&gt;, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and &lt;strong&gt;things under the earth&lt;/strong&gt;;
11 And that &lt;strong&gt;every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord&lt;/strong&gt;, to the glory of God the Father.

By saying what you have said you have pulled down the Divinity of Jesus Christ.

&lt;strong&gt;Acts 19:15&lt;/strong&gt;
15  And the evil spirit answered and said to them, &quot;&lt;strong&gt;I recognize Jesus&lt;/strong&gt;, and I know about Paul, but who are you?&quot;  (These other were Jewish exorcists)

&lt;strong&gt;Matthew 8:29&lt;/strong&gt;
29 And they cried out, saying, &quot;&lt;strong&gt;What business do we have with each other, Son of God&lt;/strong&gt;? Have You come here to torment us before the time?&quot;

&lt;strong&gt;Mark 1:24&lt;/strong&gt;
24  saying, &quot;&lt;strong&gt;What business do we have with each other, Jesus of Nazareth&lt;/strong&gt;? Have You come to destroy us? I know who You are--the Holy One of God!&quot;

&lt;strong&gt;Mark 5:7&lt;/strong&gt;
7 and shouting with a loud voice, he said, &quot;&lt;strong&gt;What business do we have with each other, Jesus, Son of the Most High God&lt;/strong&gt;? I implore You &lt;strong&gt;by &lt;/strong&gt;God, do not torment me!&quot;

&lt;strong&gt;Luke 4:34&lt;/strong&gt;
34 &quot;Let us alone! &lt;strong&gt;What business do we have with each other, Jesus of Nazareth&lt;/strong&gt;? Have You come to destroy us? I know who You are--the Holy One of God!&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/12/01/your-sons-and-your-daughters-will-prophesy-but-not-yet/#comment-2022" >Deborah (Discerning the World)</a>.</p>
<p>Yip I did.  In fact the entire Emergent gang who comes and comments here read another book.  I think it&#8217;s Gulliver&#8217;s Travels.</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Ryan said:</strong>  Actually, the scripture you&#8217;re probably thinking of is James 2:19:<br />
You believe that God is one; well and good. Even the demons believe that – and tremble with fear.&#8221;<br />
The Scripture doesn&#8217;t say demons believe in Jesus. What it says is not the same as &#8220;believing in Jesus&#8221; which means you put your trust in and you wholly rely on Jesus.<br />
The demons don&#8217;t &#8220;believe in Jesus&#8221;. They believe that God is one. In fact, I could perhaps say that they believe the FACTS of Jesus but don&#8217;t believe in the PERSON, which was my point.<br />
Demons don&#8217;t pick up their cross and follow Jesus because they don&#8217;t follow Jesus or believe in Him.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Comment here:  2009/06/30 at 9:53pm</p>
<p>And Ryan, they do believe Jesus exists, they believe He is the Son of God, they believe that He can torment them night and day, they believe.They believe He can destroy them in an instance. They don&#8217;t however following him, they follow Satan, hence Satan has been trying to destroy the line of Jesus since the beginning of time.   Kinda just like this article that Nic wrote.</p>
<p>Also:</p>
<p><strong>Philip. 2:9-11 </strong></p>
<p>9  Wherefore God also <strong>hath highly exalted him</strong>, and <strong>given him a name which is above every name</strong>:<br />
10 That at the <strong>name of Jesus every knee should bow</strong>, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and <strong>things under the earth</strong>;<br />
11 And that <strong>every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord</strong>, to the glory of God the Father.</p>
<p>By saying what you have said you have pulled down the Divinity of Jesus Christ.</p>
<p><strong>Acts 19:15</strong><br />
15  And the evil spirit answered and said to them, &#8220;<strong>I recognize Jesus</strong>, and I know about Paul, but who are you?&#8221;  (These other were Jewish exorcists)</p>
<p><strong>Matthew 8:29</strong><br />
29 And they cried out, saying, &#8220;<strong>What business do we have with each other, Son of God</strong>? Have You come here to torment us before the time?&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Mark 1:24</strong><br />
24  saying, &#8220;<strong>What business do we have with each other, Jesus of Nazareth</strong>? Have You come to destroy us? I know who You are&#8211;the Holy One of God!&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Mark 5:7</strong><br />
7 and shouting with a loud voice, he said, &#8220;<strong>What business do we have with each other, Jesus, Son of the Most High God</strong>? I implore You <strong>by </strong>God, do not torment me!&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Luke 4:34</strong><br />
34 &#8220;Let us alone! <strong>What business do we have with each other, Jesus of Nazareth</strong>? Have You come to destroy us? I know who You are&#8211;the Holy One of God!&#8221;</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[Did anyone catch that Ryan comment about demons not believing in Jesus?  Do emergents have their own version of the Bible?  What about Mark 5?  “What have you to do with me, Jesus, Son of the Most High God?&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did anyone catch that Ryan comment about demons not believing in Jesus?  Do emergents have their own version of the Bible?  What about Mark 5?  “What have you to do with me, Jesus, Son of the Most High God?&#8221;</p>
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		By: Discerning The World		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/12/07/manhattan-declaration-warning-leads-you-toward-a-new-religion/#comment-1999&quot;&gt;Deborah (Discerning the World)&lt;/a&gt;.

Here it is:

Love Casts Out All Hell:  ]]></description>
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<p>Here it is:</p>
<p>Love Casts Out All Hell:  </p>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Deborah,

I feel abit exhausted just reading all this.

Don&#039;t really want to get involved in this discussion but a few thoughts came up.

The &#039;emergent&#039; movement is really getting momentum in all of it&#039;s many branches(tentacles rather). The bizare is getting just more bizarre. What is in: Spiritual &#039;portals&#039;, shamanistic principles and manifestions, angel feathers, gold dust, liberalism, etc. etc. etc. On one extreme you have the &#039;craziness&#039; of the charismatic movement and on the other you have the reformed intellectuals who are enjoying new found &#039;freedom&#039; of thought and expression.

I see at first that you were patronised and later on kind of asked to engage in nice and civil debate.

I wonder if a nice debate would have any of them leave their stance? The answer is obviously no. One thing is certain- they will not offend anybody with their gospel and that is to be expected. They will grow rapidly in numbers as the end draw near because it was prophesied. They will eventually form part of a global tolerant religion and will gladly accept the coming &#039;shaman&#039; who will be a wonderful and adorable person. Even more adorable than Obama.

Of course they all believe in Jesus. And that means they are all &#039;saved&#039;. They can prove it theologically. They are decent, courteous and even poetic, just like Jesus. It&#039;s going to happen. It&#039;s all been prophesied. Eventually, the elimination of the poor fundamentalist souls(who stubbornly stick to the Bible, shame) will seem so logical. It will be for world peace after all.

It&#039;s just amazing that christians can defend Nic after they clearly saw what he wrote. And they still ask you to point out his errors. Wow. Shocking! Bizare... expected.

blessings sister]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Deborah,</p>
<p>I feel abit exhausted just reading all this.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t really want to get involved in this discussion but a few thoughts came up.</p>
<p>The &#8217;emergent&#8217; movement is really getting momentum in all of it&#8217;s many branches(tentacles rather). The bizare is getting just more bizarre. What is in: Spiritual &#8216;portals&#8217;, shamanistic principles and manifestions, angel feathers, gold dust, liberalism, etc. etc. etc. On one extreme you have the &#8216;craziness&#8217; of the charismatic movement and on the other you have the reformed intellectuals who are enjoying new found &#8216;freedom&#8217; of thought and expression.</p>
<p>I see at first that you were patronised and later on kind of asked to engage in nice and civil debate.</p>
<p>I wonder if a nice debate would have any of them leave their stance? The answer is obviously no. One thing is certain- they will not offend anybody with their gospel and that is to be expected. They will grow rapidly in numbers as the end draw near because it was prophesied. They will eventually form part of a global tolerant religion and will gladly accept the coming &#8216;shaman&#8217; who will be a wonderful and adorable person. Even more adorable than Obama.</p>
<p>Of course they all believe in Jesus. And that means they are all &#8216;saved&#8217;. They can prove it theologically. They are decent, courteous and even poetic, just like Jesus. It&#8217;s going to happen. It&#8217;s all been prophesied. Eventually, the elimination of the poor fundamentalist souls(who stubbornly stick to the Bible, shame) will seem so logical. It will be for world peace after all.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just amazing that christians can defend Nic after they clearly saw what he wrote. And they still ask you to point out his errors. Wow. Shocking! Bizare&#8230; expected.</p>
<p>blessings sister</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/11/06/what-a-tragedy-prophet-kobus-van-rensburg/#comment-1998&quot;&gt;Deborah (Discerning the World)&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Francois!  Long time no see or blog should I say.

Indeed mind boggling, I&#039;m still recovering.  As you say, Nic&#039;s article is so obvious, but yet... they are not interested.

Your comment is actually very similar on to an article I am going to publish within the next 30 min.  Let me know if it hits the right spot.

D

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/11/06/what-a-tragedy-prophet-kobus-van-rensburg/#comment-1998" >Deborah (Discerning the World)</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Francois!  Long time no see or blog should I say.</p>
<p>Indeed mind boggling, I&#8217;m still recovering.  As you say, Nic&#8217;s article is so obvious, but yet&#8230; they are not interested.</p>
<p>Your comment is actually very similar on to an article I am going to publish within the next 30 min.  Let me know if it hits the right spot.</p>
<p>D</p>
<p>[Edited:  Make that 2 hours, not 30 minutes]</p>
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