Comments on: Jacob Prasch – Moderate Calvinists are Good, Hyper Calvinists are Bad.

By: Deborah (Discerning the World)

Deborah (Discerning the World) — Fri, 06 Jul 2018 09:48:41 +0000

In reply to Scott. No problem Scott!

By: Scott

Scott — Fri, 06 Jul 2018 09:39:06 +0000

Thank you for the link!! I was not implying that you were lying or being shady. I used that quote from this article to debate somone else and he wanted the date of the article is why i needed proof, so thank you. Goodday

By: Deborah (Discerning the World)

Deborah (Discerning the World) — Fri, 06 Jul 2018 09:20:23 +0000

In reply to Scott.

Hi Scott

You make it sound like I am fibbing…but I understand, you need the link 🙂 Sooo…

The correct link at the time was provided to that statement: http://moriel.org/MorielArchive/index.php/discernment/church-issues/aberrational-theology/dan-corner It appears it been removed after Moriel changed their website and removed a lot of information. However there is a program called Way Back Machine:

You can scrub your website as Moriel have done, but there is always a paper trail: https://web.archive.org/web/20120324124207/http://moriel.org/MorielArchive/index.php/discernment/church-issues/aberrational-theology/dan-corner

Happy reading.

Jacob Prasch is actually a Methodist (Arminianist) and follows the teachings of John Wesley (the founder of the Methodist church).

By: Scott

Scott — Fri, 06 Jul 2018 09:07:32 +0000

Hi could you please tell me where you got the moriel ministries comment (” where moriel ministries says: is not calvanistic and does not support unconditional once saved always saved , a distinction should be made between moderate calvanists and hyper -calvanists . And i agree with John MacArthur on a few things”) etc…..in this article? Perhaps can you provide the article it came from or a link to his comment so i can read Jacob’s comment for myself? I copied and pasted the link below the moriel ministries comment but i coukd not find jacob’s comment as you have it stated here- fyi Thank you

By: Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)

Tom Lessing (Discerning the World) — Sun, 11 Jan 2015 20:32:38 +0000

In reply to Rob. Rob, If nothing external can take salvatation from a saint what makes the internal so strong that it can? Jesus said, "My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand. I and the Father are one." (Joh 10:27-30). Are you greater than God that you can snatch yourself out of his hand? In any case, someone who is truly saved will NEVER regret his or her salvation and walk away from God. Those who do were never saved in the first place.

For godly grief produces a repentance that leads to salvation without regret, whereas worldly grief produces death. (2 Co 7:10)

Read this article.

By: Rob

Rob — Sun, 11 Jan 2015 12:49:42 +0000

The Bible says clearly that you cannot LOSE your Salvation. It also clearly says that nobody or nothing else external to you can take it from you! But absolutely NOWHERE does it say that you as a believer cannot FORSAKE your salvation and in fact many passages state you can!

By: Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)

Tom Lessing (Discerning the World) — Wed, 17 Jul 2013 14:38:51 +0000

In reply to Denis. Denis wrote:

The bible teaches that every man must work out his own salvation with fear and trembling

I'm sure you know this means that what God has worked in you, you must work out so that others may see the difference in your life. It does not mean that you have to contribute to your salvation.

By: Denis

Denis — Wed, 17 Jul 2013 14:34:36 +0000

The bible teaches that there will be false teachers and also great deception in the
end times. I listen and compare what is said with the word of God and look to the Lord
for guidance. The word does tell us that if a man speaks not according to the word of God
it is because there is no light in him. I do believe that it is neccessary for people to repent and accept Jesus Christ as saviour Jesus himself said unless you repent you will
perish.i also believe that Jesus is the way, the truth, and life that without him no man
will see God the Father.I have made mistakes as a born again christian,so did others i
am by no means perfect, but i do not want to sin and have no desire to.Is there a change
in my life. I can honestly answer that by saying without doubt yes and a big change.The
thing is that it is the Lord God that brought about the change in me.Glory belongs to God.The bible teaches that every man must work out his own salvation with fear and trembling.God judges all things, and will judge all those who has and do bring false doctrine.

By: Princess

Princess — Sat, 13 Apr 2013 21:12:47 +0000

Polemical thinking can never be a road to balanced truth. In correcting an error, it creates a different error, often more dangerous than the original one.

Redeemed wrote:

Abe # 10 & 11
You believe in “free grace”? In other words that repentance has no place in coming to Christ? Biblical repentance is NOT Lordship salvation! Free grace leads to false conversions and that is a grave danger.
I hope you have not fallen into the trap over there at expreacherman. Expreacherman is against Lordship salvation but have taken it to a ridiculous extreme.

By: lindar68

lindar68 — Sat, 13 Apr 2013 04:46:13 +0000

Martin Horan wrote:

No matter which way I look at Calvin’s teaching, it strikes me as blasphemous. It’s not only unbiblical but it’s illogical. It contradicts itself. Dave Hunt’s “What Love is this?” is the definitive book on Calvinism. It is a virtual masterpiece on the subject.
Dave has written another book worth reading called “A Calvinist’s Honest Doubts.” “Honest Doubts” and George L. Bryson’s “The Five Points of Calvinism” are two smaller books but they sum up all the basics of Calvinist doctrine and they are excellent books for those who don’t have the time or inclination to go into Calvinism as a deeper study. The comments an analysis in all three of these books are irrefutable. However, that won’t stop Calvinsits arguing against them.
Satan himself is a wishful thinker [Rev 12:12] but he plans to go out with his guns blazing [ibid] denying what he knows to be true. Calvinists–I guess like people in all cults–have a similar mindset.

Amen Martin! I am now re-reading What Love Is This? for the fourth time. Dave Hunt’s book Honest Doubts is simply excerpts from 3 or 4 chapters of What Love Is This? I have not read George L. Bryson’s book The Five Points of Calvinism, but Dave Hunt did quote him quite a bit.

I agree that there really is no “gray” area when it comes to the heresy of Calvinism. Calvinism is Calvinism.