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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2013/01/04/jacob-prasch-chuck-missler-demonic-nephilim/#comment-496889&quot;&gt;Just Paul&lt;/a&gt;.

Dear Just Paul

To be honest I am glad the silence was deafening from Jacob Prasch because when he attacks he is like a rabid dog and he goes for the jugular.  When I first exposed Jasob Prasch years ago he went so far as to send 2 ex police officers that belong to his ministry in South AFrica after me - fortunately and I can only thank Jesus Christ for His protection but they never found me, or could not enter the estate where I lived at the time.
Jacob Prasch ranted about this in the comments section of a Youtube video.  Someone showed me and I was shocked.  I made a snapshot of his email in the comments section and pasted it over here. https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2012/12/14/discerning-the-world-defence-from-the-attacks-of-jacob-prasch-and-moriel-ministries/

So be thankful :smile:]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2013/01/04/jacob-prasch-chuck-missler-demonic-nephilim/#comment-496889" >Just Paul</a>.</p>
<p>Dear Just Paul</p>
<p>To be honest I am glad the silence was deafening from Jacob Prasch because when he attacks he is like a rabid dog and he goes for the jugular.  When I first exposed Jasob Prasch years ago he went so far as to send 2 ex police officers that belong to his ministry in South AFrica after me &#8211; fortunately and I can only thank Jesus Christ for His protection but they never found me, or could not enter the estate where I lived at the time.<br />
Jacob Prasch ranted about this in the comments section of a Youtube video.  Someone showed me and I was shocked.  I made a snapshot of his email in the comments section and pasted it over here. <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2012/12/14/discerning-the-world-defence-from-the-attacks-of-jacob-prasch-and-moriel-ministries/"  rel="ugc">https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2012/12/14/discerning-the-world-defence-from-the-attacks-of-jacob-prasch-and-moriel-ministries/</a></p>
<p>So be thankful 🙂</p>
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		By: Just Paul		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[It is refreshing that someone else has associated Jacob and Chuck as teaching the same demonic stuff. I discovered that Chucks teaching on the electric universe is exactly the same as the lucis trusts electric bridge. Then on careful study I found that Chucks Koinonia institute badge is a match for the lucis trusts metatron. And low and behold we have Jacob teaching about the metatron. I did challenge Chuck (long before he died) and also Jacob regarding this but the silence has been deafening.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is refreshing that someone else has associated Jacob and Chuck as teaching the same demonic stuff. I discovered that Chucks teaching on the electric universe is exactly the same as the lucis trusts electric bridge. Then on careful study I found that Chucks Koinonia institute badge is a match for the lucis trusts metatron. And low and behold we have Jacob teaching about the metatron. I did challenge Chuck (long before he died) and also Jacob regarding this but the silence has been deafening.</p>
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		By: Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Apr 2022 08:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2013/01/04/jacob-prasch-chuck-missler-demonic-nephilim/#comment-496797&quot;&gt;Andrew&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Andrew. There are only two diametrically opposing political systems in the world - autocracy (rule by force with an iron fist), and democracy (brittle clay: rule by the will of the majority). Eastern nations, and particularly Islam, are autocratic in their governance while Western nations are democratic. The sudden Western orchestrated influx of millions of Muslims into Europe is/was one of the major programs to democratize Islam. Between mid-2010 and mid-2016, an estimated 3.7 million Muslims migrated to Europe. Two ways are being applied to accomplish this - the denial that Islam is the source of terror and joining Muslims in rallies as a sign of rebuke to Germany’s growing anti-Islamic movement, spearheaded by Angela Merkel. (Read &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/13/angela-merkel-muslim-berlin-rally-pegida&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;). 

In the book &quot;Islam and Democracy&quot; by By John L. Esposito, John O. Voll the following paragraph describes the tendency for democratization among Muslims very well.

&lt;blockquote&gt;The resurgence of Islam and the desire for democratization in the Muslim world exist in a dynamic global context. Throughout the world, many peoples express similar desires, making religious resurgence and democratization two of the most important themes in contemporary world affairs. The assertion of special communal identities and the demand for increased popular political participation occur in a complex world environment in which technology reinforces global relationships at the same time that local and national and local cultural identities remain remarkably strong.

The demand and desire for democracy are widespread in contemporary global affairs. Few major political leaders or movements describe themselves as &quot;anti-democratic.&quot; Even when restoration of monarchy was advocated recently by some in Brazil, there was virtually no support among the monarchists for a restoration of a divine-right, absolutist monarchy. Instead, the monarchists proposed a &quot;presidential monarchy system&quot; and spoke of needing a system similar to the current Spanish monarchy. Many people agree that perhaps &quot;the most important global political development of the late twentieth century&quot; is the emergence of pro-democracy movements throughout the world and their success.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This should convince you that the iron and clay are already in the process of becoming one united entity. However, as the Bible prophesied, it will and cannot endure because iron and clay are wholly incompatible.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2013/01/04/jacob-prasch-chuck-missler-demonic-nephilim/#comment-496797" >Andrew</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Andrew. There are only two diametrically opposing political systems in the world &#8211; autocracy (rule by force with an iron fist), and democracy (brittle clay: rule by the will of the majority). Eastern nations, and particularly Islam, are autocratic in their governance while Western nations are democratic. The sudden Western orchestrated influx of millions of Muslims into Europe is/was one of the major programs to democratize Islam. Between mid-2010 and mid-2016, an estimated 3.7 million Muslims migrated to Europe. Two ways are being applied to accomplish this &#8211; the denial that Islam is the source of terror and joining Muslims in rallies as a sign of rebuke to Germany’s growing anti-Islamic movement, spearheaded by Angela Merkel. (Read <a target="_blank" href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/13/angela-merkel-muslim-berlin-rally-pegida"  rel="nofollow ugc">here</a>). </p>
<p>In the book &#8220;Islam and Democracy&#8221; by By John L. Esposito, John O. Voll the following paragraph describes the tendency for democratization among Muslims very well.</p>
<blockquote><p>The resurgence of Islam and the desire for democratization in the Muslim world exist in a dynamic global context. Throughout the world, many peoples express similar desires, making religious resurgence and democratization two of the most important themes in contemporary world affairs. The assertion of special communal identities and the demand for increased popular political participation occur in a complex world environment in which technology reinforces global relationships at the same time that local and national and local cultural identities remain remarkably strong.</p>
<p>The demand and desire for democracy are widespread in contemporary global affairs. Few major political leaders or movements describe themselves as &#8220;anti-democratic.&#8221; Even when restoration of monarchy was advocated recently by some in Brazil, there was virtually no support among the monarchists for a restoration of a divine-right, absolutist monarchy. Instead, the monarchists proposed a &#8220;presidential monarchy system&#8221; and spoke of needing a system similar to the current Spanish monarchy. Many people agree that perhaps &#8220;the most important global political development of the late twentieth century&#8221; is the emergence of pro-democracy movements throughout the world and their success.
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<p>This should convince you that the iron and clay are already in the process of becoming one united entity. However, as the Bible prophesied, it will and cannot endure because iron and clay are wholly incompatible.</p>
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		By: Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2022 06:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2013/01/04/jacob-prasch-chuck-missler-demonic-nephilim/#comment-496798&quot;&gt;Andrew&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Andrew, this site is not a political party but a discernment ministry to warn and encourage people to discern between God&#039;s truth and Satan&#039;s lies. Therefore, personal opinions do not count here. What we want to know is the plain truth of God because that alone sets one free from error.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2013/01/04/jacob-prasch-chuck-missler-demonic-nephilim/#comment-496798" >Andrew</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Andrew, this site is not a political party but a discernment ministry to warn and encourage people to discern between God&#8217;s truth and Satan&#8217;s lies. Therefore, personal opinions do not count here. What we want to know is the plain truth of God because that alone sets one free from error.</p>
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		By: Andrew		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2022 01:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You call Chuck Missler out for his opinion but then give your opinion. I quote &quot;&lt;span&gt;This speaks of the attempted UNION between imperialism and democracy.&quot;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span&gt;I find no reference to democracy in the related scriptures. Please explain.&lt;/span&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You call Chuck Missler out for his opinion but then give your opinion. I quote &#8220;<span>This speaks of the attempted UNION between imperialism and democracy.&#8221;</span><br />
<span>I find no reference to democracy in the related scriptures. Please explain.</span></p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2022 09:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[While pulling up Chuck Missler for his own opinion, you do the same in your desire to prove him wrong with regards to the clay feet of the statue in Daniel! I quote &quot;&lt;span&gt;The last re-establishment of the Roman Empire is described as iron mixed with miry clay, which is nothing but&#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;em&gt;brittle pottery&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span&gt;.&#160;This speaks of the attempted UNION between imperialism and democracy.&#160;In the end this Roman Empire so easily shattered when Jesus Christ returns&quot;.&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span&gt;I find no reference to democracy in the passage nor any where else that refers to this! Please explain!&lt;/span&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While pulling up Chuck Missler for his own opinion, you do the same in your desire to prove him wrong with regards to the clay feet of the statue in Daniel! I quote &#8220;<span>The last re-establishment of the Roman Empire is described as iron mixed with miry clay, which is nothing but&nbsp;</span><em>brittle pottery</em><span>.&nbsp;This speaks of the attempted UNION between imperialism and democracy.&nbsp;In the end this Roman Empire so easily shattered when Jesus Christ returns&#8221;.</span><br />
<span>I find no reference to democracy in the passage nor any where else that refers to this! Please explain!</span></p>
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		By: Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Feb 2022 08:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2013/01/04/jacob-prasch-chuck-missler-demonic-nephilim/#comment-496756&quot;&gt;Heaven&lt;/a&gt;.

You wrote, &quot;Also just because nelphims are demonic doesn’t mean that the doctrine is.&quot; I have never heard such an outrageously stupid statement in all my life. You may as well say, Satan is demonic but that does not mean he is evil and the arch enemy of God.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2013/01/04/jacob-prasch-chuck-missler-demonic-nephilim/#comment-496756" >Heaven</a>.</p>
<p>You wrote, &#8220;Also just because nelphims are demonic doesn’t mean that the doctrine is.&#8221; I have never heard such an outrageously stupid statement in all my life. You may as well say, Satan is demonic but that does not mean he is evil and the arch enemy of God.&#8221;</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2022 23:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You know Tom the Bible mentions flying chariots. Ufos have been a things before the 20th century, but they didn’t call them that [removed]
Also just because nelphims are demonic doesn’t mean that the doctrine is. Maybe you and Debroh should have done research before laughing something off. Also you guys believe in a deity that made the world in six days. You guys have no right to point fingers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know Tom the Bible mentions flying chariots. Ufos have been a things before the 20th century, but they didn’t call them that [removed]<br />
Also just because nelphims are demonic doesn’t mean that the doctrine is. Maybe you and Debroh should have done research before laughing something off. Also you guys believe in a deity that made the world in six days. You guys have no right to point fingers.</p>
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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jun 2019 12:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2013/01/04/jacob-prasch-chuck-missler-demonic-nephilim/#comment-493595&quot;&gt;Derrick Whitehorn&lt;/a&gt;.

Dear Derrick

No Jacob Prash did not say that, the Book of Enoch says that, and Jacob Prasch &lt;strong&gt;agrees &lt;/strong&gt;with Book of Enoch and Nephilim teaching.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2013/01/04/jacob-prasch-chuck-missler-demonic-nephilim/#comment-493595" >Derrick Whitehorn</a>.</p>
<p>Dear Derrick</p>
<p>No Jacob Prash did not say that, the Book of Enoch says that, and Jacob Prasch <strong>agrees </strong>with Book of Enoch and Nephilim teaching.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom (Discerning the World)]]></dc:creator>
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Derrick Whitehorn

In chapter 7 verses 11-15 in the Book of Enoch it is written . . .



&lt;blockquote&gt;11. And the women conceiving brought forth giants,

12. Whose stature was each three hundred cubits [about 442 feet]. These devoured all which the labour of men produced; until it became impossible to feed them;

13. When they turned themselves against men, in order to devour them;

14. And began to injure birds, beasts, reptiles, and fishes, to eat their flesh one after another, and to drink their blood.

15. Then the earth reproved the unrighteous.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



Jacob Prasch admits that the Book of Enoch has no doctrinal veracity but does indeed help us to understand the Bible better. He writes:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.moriel.org/articles-and-news/7175-the-book-of-enoch-june-2019.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;What is important to remember is that such books are of literary and historical value in contributing to properly interpreting The Word of God, but on their own are not a basis of doctrinal theology.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Does the fact that the giants (Nephilim) in the Book of Enoch were 442 feet tall have any doctrinal value? Of course not. It can only be of historical value if it were true. Prasch seems to think so, having seen that he attributes to its content historical value that helps us to properly interpret the Word of God. The onus is on him to prove that the entire Book of Enoch is a historically factual source, and indeed completely reliable, including Chapter 7 and verses 7-11. Should he argue that it is the only portion in Enoch that cannot be trusted, he cannot possibly value it as a historically reliable source, simply because a single lie or mistake in Enoch causes it to be an unreliable source. How can you use lies to properly interpret the Word of God? (John  8:44). Can you tell us?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2013/01/04/jacob-prasch-chuck-missler-demonic-nephilim/#comment-493595" >Derrick Whitehorn</a>.</p>
<p>Derrick Whitehorn</p>
<p>In chapter 7 verses 11-15 in the Book of Enoch it is written . . .</p>
<blockquote><p>11. And the women conceiving brought forth giants,</p>
<p>12. Whose stature was each three hundred cubits [about 442 feet]. These devoured all which the labour of men produced; until it became impossible to feed them;</p>
<p>13. When they turned themselves against men, in order to devour them;</p>
<p>14. And began to injure birds, beasts, reptiles, and fishes, to eat their flesh one after another, and to drink their blood.</p>
<p>15. Then the earth reproved the unrighteous.</p></blockquote>
<p>Jacob Prasch admits that the Book of Enoch has no doctrinal veracity but does indeed help us to understand the Bible better. He writes:</p>
<blockquote><p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.moriel.org/articles-and-news/7175-the-book-of-enoch-june-2019.html"  rel="nofollow">What is important to remember is that such books are of literary and historical value in contributing to properly interpreting The Word of God, but on their own are not a basis of doctrinal theology.</a></p></blockquote>
<p>Does the fact that the giants (Nephilim) in the Book of Enoch were 442 feet tall have any doctrinal value? Of course not. It can only be of historical value if it were true. Prasch seems to think so, having seen that he attributes to its content historical value that helps us to properly interpret the Word of God. The onus is on him to prove that the entire Book of Enoch is a historically factual source, and indeed completely reliable, including Chapter 7 and verses 7-11. Should he argue that it is the only portion in Enoch that cannot be trusted, he cannot possibly value it as a historically reliable source, simply because a single lie or mistake in Enoch causes it to be an unreliable source. How can you use lies to properly interpret the Word of God? (John  8:44). Can you tell us?</p>
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