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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
		<link>https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2012/11/19/jacob-prasch-twisting-scripture-the-midrash-way/#comment-496896</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Sep 2022 11:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2012/11/19/jacob-prasch-twisting-scripture-the-midrash-way/#comment-496869&quot;&gt;Angine Lieber&lt;/a&gt;.

Angine Lieber

Jacob Prasch is as false as can be, a Kabbalah (Midrash) follower who believes Jesus is Metatron.  

Please see this articles posted by us on our facebook group:  
Jacob Prasch newsletter where he says Jesus is Metaron: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ExposingFalseTeachinginSouthAfrica/permalink/3284079851667535/
Jacob Prasch says you must Worship the Goat: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ExposingFalseTeachinginSouthAfrica/permalink/3227545077321013/

You clearly have not tested the spirits as per 1 John 4:1-6.  I sincerely recommend you do.

This is what your minister did to me: https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2012/12/14/discerning-the-world-defence-from-the-attacks-of-jacob-prasch-and-moriel-ministries/


THE CULT OF JACOB PRASCH

Jacob Prasch has a false Jesus—one from Kabbalah known as Metatron. This different Jesus would certainly go some way to explaining how Prasch claims to be in contact with a god (his ministry ‘Moriel’ means ‘god is my teacher’ in Hebrew).

Yet Prasch exhibits no evidence of contact with the true Holy Spirit due to Prasch showing zero Fruit of the Spirit as per Galatians 5’s list of identifiers of the true Spirit’s involvement in mankind, and has lacked them over a sustained period of over 30 years!

&quot;James (Jacob) Prasch of Moriel shares his teaching that not only is the metatron - an occult mythical creature - in The Bible - (no it isn&#039;t) - but that this creature is THE Mashiach, the Christ, the Saviour and this should be quoted when witnessing to Jews because this is how the first Christians understood the tri-unity of The Godhead.
Elsewhere over the years, in other places, he has not mentioned it as part of witnessing but that it is a truth to be embraced and understood by gentiles too. For example in this audio recording - starting at 18 minutes he teaches about what is on the Kabbalah and the Zohar. So how exactly does this information draw anybody closer to The Lord Jesus Christ? It doesn&#039;t - quite the opposite.

In his Moriel Quarterly Newsletter for September 2009 on page 15, he writes: In conclusion: • Jacob wrestled with the Metatrone, God in a human form. • Joshua fell down before Him upon entering the Promised Land - the Metatrone. • The Metatrone is the middle pillar of the Godhead. • The Metatrone is Jehovah. • The Metatrone is in the Shekinah; the Shekinah is in the Metatrone. Jehovah God, Metatrone, Shekinah, three-in-one, one-in-three. • The Metatrone is the Redeemer; the Metatrone is the only way to God. • The
Metatrone is the only one in whose name He will answer our prayers. • The Metatrone is the only one to whom God has committed the future of Israel into His hands. • The Metatrone is the only agent of God’s salvation. • The Metatrone is the only one who has the right to give the way to the tree of life. • The Metatrone is the only one in whom, if you take refuge, you will be saved.&quot;

Get out of this cult while you can - run and don&#039;t look back.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2012/11/19/jacob-prasch-twisting-scripture-the-midrash-way/#comment-496869" >Angine Lieber</a>.</p>
<p>Angine Lieber</p>
<p>Jacob Prasch is as false as can be, a Kabbalah (Midrash) follower who believes Jesus is Metatron.  </p>
<p>Please see this articles posted by us on our facebook group:<br />
Jacob Prasch newsletter where he says Jesus is Metaron: <a target="_blank" href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/ExposingFalseTeachinginSouthAfrica/permalink/3284079851667535/"  rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.facebook.com/groups/ExposingFalseTeachinginSouthAfrica/permalink/3284079851667535/</a><br />
Jacob Prasch says you must Worship the Goat: <a target="_blank" href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/ExposingFalseTeachinginSouthAfrica/permalink/3227545077321013/"  rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.facebook.com/groups/ExposingFalseTeachinginSouthAfrica/permalink/3227545077321013/</a></p>
<p>You clearly have not tested the spirits as per 1 John 4:1-6.  I sincerely recommend you do.</p>
<p>This is what your minister did to me: <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2012/12/14/discerning-the-world-defence-from-the-attacks-of-jacob-prasch-and-moriel-ministries/"  rel="ugc">https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2012/12/14/discerning-the-world-defence-from-the-attacks-of-jacob-prasch-and-moriel-ministries/</a></p>
<p>THE CULT OF JACOB PRASCH</p>
<p>Jacob Prasch has a false Jesus—one from Kabbalah known as Metatron. This different Jesus would certainly go some way to explaining how Prasch claims to be in contact with a god (his ministry ‘Moriel’ means ‘god is my teacher’ in Hebrew).</p>
<p>Yet Prasch exhibits no evidence of contact with the true Holy Spirit due to Prasch showing zero Fruit of the Spirit as per Galatians 5’s list of identifiers of the true Spirit’s involvement in mankind, and has lacked them over a sustained period of over 30 years!</p>
<p>&#8220;James (Jacob) Prasch of Moriel shares his teaching that not only is the metatron &#8211; an occult mythical creature &#8211; in The Bible &#8211; (no it isn&#8217;t) &#8211; but that this creature is THE Mashiach, the Christ, the Saviour and this should be quoted when witnessing to Jews because this is how the first Christians understood the tri-unity of The Godhead.<br />
Elsewhere over the years, in other places, he has not mentioned it as part of witnessing but that it is a truth to be embraced and understood by gentiles too. For example in this audio recording &#8211; starting at 18 minutes he teaches about what is on the Kabbalah and the Zohar. So how exactly does this information draw anybody closer to The Lord Jesus Christ? It doesn&#8217;t &#8211; quite the opposite.</p>
<p>In his Moriel Quarterly Newsletter for September 2009 on page 15, he writes: In conclusion: • Jacob wrestled with the Metatrone, God in a human form. • Joshua fell down before Him upon entering the Promised Land &#8211; the Metatrone. • The Metatrone is the middle pillar of the Godhead. • The Metatrone is Jehovah. • The Metatrone is in the Shekinah; the Shekinah is in the Metatrone. Jehovah God, Metatrone, Shekinah, three-in-one, one-in-three. • The Metatrone is the Redeemer; the Metatrone is the only way to God. • The<br />
Metatrone is the only one in whose name He will answer our prayers. • The Metatrone is the only one to whom God has committed the future of Israel into His hands. • The Metatrone is the only agent of God’s salvation. • The Metatrone is the only one who has the right to give the way to the tree of life. • The Metatrone is the only one in whom, if you take refuge, you will be saved.&#8221;</p>
<p>Get out of this cult while you can &#8211; run and don&#8217;t look back.</p>
<p>WATCH VIDEO:<br />
<a target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0X10guKd5ms&#038;list=PL_35gPUlNGfKNYhybY6W8hTC79UmF0UVh"  rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0X10guKd5ms&#038;list=PL_35gPUlNGfKNYhybY6W8hTC79UmF0UVh</a></p>
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		By: Angine Lieber		</title>
		<link>https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2012/11/19/jacob-prasch-twisting-scripture-the-midrash-way/#comment-496869</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2022 15:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It seems the scriptures themselves make it very clear that the antichrist, man of lawlessness shows up and the masses think Christ has returned. This is the first “white” horseman in Revelation who appears to be, but is not Christ. The other horseman follow and bring much tribulation on the earth and the saints. The wrath of God/The Day of the Lord follows Christ coming to snatch the true believers away like an emergency “C” section as otherwise no one would be saved. Immediately following the Harpazo, Gods&#160;wrath is poured out in the inhabitants of the earth. In Gods timing, the true church will return to earth with Christ and then comes the Battle of Armageddon and satan bound for 1000 years and the beginning of the millennial reign. I believe James Jacob Prasch is the best teacher of the Bible that I have ever studied under. I have been studying Gods Word since a child and am now 65 years old. I have read many of James&#160;books, actually most of them and only find more understanding of The original text and common thread through the scriptures than I ever had. The whole Bible is more clear and unified with the way God uses James Jacob Prasch and Moriel ministries. You are mistaken.&#160;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems the scriptures themselves make it very clear that the antichrist, man of lawlessness shows up and the masses think Christ has returned. This is the first “white” horseman in Revelation who appears to be, but is not Christ. The other horseman follow and bring much tribulation on the earth and the saints. The wrath of God/The Day of the Lord follows Christ coming to snatch the true believers away like an emergency “C” section as otherwise no one would be saved. Immediately following the Harpazo, Gods&nbsp;wrath is poured out in the inhabitants of the earth. In Gods timing, the true church will return to earth with Christ and then comes the Battle of Armageddon and satan bound for 1000 years and the beginning of the millennial reign. I believe James Jacob Prasch is the best teacher of the Bible that I have ever studied under. I have been studying Gods Word since a child and am now 65 years old. I have read many of James&nbsp;books, actually most of them and only find more understanding of The original text and common thread through the scriptures than I ever had. The whole Bible is more clear and unified with the way God uses James Jacob Prasch and Moriel ministries. You are mistaken.&nbsp;</p>
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		By: Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)		</title>
		<link>https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2012/11/19/jacob-prasch-twisting-scripture-the-midrash-way/#comment-496807</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Apr 2022 06:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2012/11/19/jacob-prasch-twisting-scripture-the-midrash-way/#comment-496802&quot;&gt;stephen&lt;/a&gt;.

Stephen, what do you mean by &quot;modern interpretation?&quot; Most modern interpretations are way off track. From your post, it is clear that you believe in only one resurrection of both the believers and unbelievers at the Second Coming of Christ. It is quite untenable and unbiblical.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2012/11/19/jacob-prasch-twisting-scripture-the-midrash-way/#comment-496802" >stephen</a>.</p>
<p>Stephen, what do you mean by &#8220;modern interpretation?&#8221; Most modern interpretations are way off track. From your post, it is clear that you believe in only one resurrection of both the believers and unbelievers at the Second Coming of Christ. It is quite untenable and unbiblical.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2022 21:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The subject of the Coming of Christ and the resurrection has been hopelessly confused since the 19th century. It is really important to research and understand the history of the modern interpretation of this event if you are to have any chance of understanding it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The subject of the Coming of Christ and the resurrection has been hopelessly confused since the 19th century. It is really important to research and understand the history of the modern interpretation of this event if you are to have any chance of understanding it.</p>
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		By: Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Nov 2019 10:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2012/11/19/jacob-prasch-twisting-scripture-the-midrash-way/#comment-494550&quot;&gt;Understand The Times&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Understand The Times. We are not surprised, not surprised at all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2012/11/19/jacob-prasch-twisting-scripture-the-midrash-way/#comment-494550" >Understand The Times</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Understand The Times. We are not surprised, not surprised at all.</p>
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		By: Understand The Times		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Nov 2019 00:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I reached out to Moriel regarding his teaching that Jesus is the Metatron - not found in scripture only Talmudic /Kabbalah sources, I wasn&#039;t met warmly to say the least very sad.  :unhappy:]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I reached out to Moriel regarding his teaching that Jesus is the Metatron &#8211; not found in scripture only Talmudic /Kabbalah sources, I wasn&#8217;t met warmly to say the least very sad.  :unhappy:</p>
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		By: tbckawaii		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 May 2019 19:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jacob Prasch is presently under investigation for spiritual abuse by a British charity. This is part 3, or the most recent update from the investigator: https://youtube.com/watch?v=W7-mjDPLGcE]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jacob Prasch is presently under investigation for spiritual abuse by a British charity. This is part 3, or the most recent update from the investigator: <a target="_blank" href="https://youtube.com/watch?v=W7-mjDPLGcE"  rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtube.com/watch?v=W7-mjDPLGcE</a></p>
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		By: tbckawaii		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Apr 2019 17:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi,

Thanks for standing up against Prasch. His railing attack post here was used in my video about his bad behaviour and his personality cult https://vimeo.com/327533121 so your work has echoed down through the years.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Thanks for standing up against Prasch. His railing attack post here was used in my video about his bad behaviour and his personality cult <a target="_blank" href="https://vimeo.com/327533121"  rel="nofollow ugc">https://vimeo.com/327533121</a> so your work has echoed down through the years.</p>
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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2018 08:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2012/11/19/jacob-prasch-twisting-scripture-the-midrash-way/#comment-485402&quot;&gt;Zach&lt;/a&gt;.

Zach

The real point is this:  Zach follows Jacob Prasch, Zach loves Prasch&#039;s teachings, Zach is upset with DTW for &lt;em&gt;supposedly &lt;/em&gt;insulting Jacob Prasch in the article, which DTW did not.  Zach &lt;strong&gt;totally ignores&lt;/strong&gt; the fact of what Jacob Prasch said to us, because Zach is a JP fan. *whip out the poms poms...give us a J..give us an A..*

Look Zach, last thing I want is you coming here telling me how terrible we are towards Jacob Prasch because that&#039;s what &lt;strong&gt;your first comment&lt;/strong&gt; was all about, how bad DTW is, how wonderful Prasch.   

I see you have read this article https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2012/11/30/jacob-prasch-the-railer/ and you posted a lovely comment there which I deleted as well because you can&#039;t see anything wrong with Prasch&#039;s behaviour. 

I&#039;ve noticed that all Prasch&#039;s followers are like little &#039;&lt;em&gt;mini-mes&lt;/em&gt;&#039; of Jacob&#039;s personality and character...  Think Zach, when did you become a nasty person, was it before or after you started to follow Jacob Prasch and his erroneous teachings?
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2012/11/19/jacob-prasch-twisting-scripture-the-midrash-way/#comment-485402" >Zach</a>.</p>
<p>Zach</p>
<p>The real point is this:  Zach follows Jacob Prasch, Zach loves Prasch&#8217;s teachings, Zach is upset with DTW for <em>supposedly </em>insulting Jacob Prasch in the article, which DTW did not.  Zach <strong>totally ignores</strong> the fact of what Jacob Prasch said to us, because Zach is a JP fan. *whip out the poms poms&#8230;give us a J..give us an A..*</p>
<p>Look Zach, last thing I want is you coming here telling me how terrible we are towards Jacob Prasch because that&#8217;s what <strong>your first comment</strong> was all about, how bad DTW is, how wonderful Prasch.   </p>
<p>I see you have read this article <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2012/11/30/jacob-prasch-the-railer/"  rel="ugc">https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2012/11/30/jacob-prasch-the-railer/</a> and you posted a lovely comment there which I deleted as well because you can&#8217;t see anything wrong with Prasch&#8217;s behaviour. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve noticed that all Prasch&#8217;s followers are like little &#8216;<em>mini-mes</em>&#8216; of Jacob&#8217;s personality and character&#8230;  Think Zach, when did you become a nasty person, was it before or after you started to follow Jacob Prasch and his erroneous teachings?</p>
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		By: Tom (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2018 13:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Zach wrote:


&lt;strong&gt;Love is not tolerance. Love is not mixture. Love is not feeling good. Love is not an emotion. Love is not being nice.
Love is truth. Love is compassion. Love is substance. Love is correcting error. Love compels us to good. Love is Christ, who’s way is narrow.&lt;/strong&gt;


No!  You are wrong. The strait gate and narrow way are depicted in Prasch&#039;s loving words in &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2012/11/30/jacob-prasch-the-railer/&quot;&gt;this article&lt;/a&gt;.


I suggest that you stop writing comments here and first go and learn what love is before you come back.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zach wrote:</p>
<p><strong>Love is not tolerance. Love is not mixture. Love is not feeling good. Love is not an emotion. Love is not being nice.<br />
Love is truth. Love is compassion. Love is substance. Love is correcting error. Love compels us to good. Love is Christ, who’s way is narrow.</strong></p>
<p>No!  You are wrong. The strait gate and narrow way are depicted in Prasch&#8217;s loving words in <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2012/11/30/jacob-prasch-the-railer/" >this article</a>.</p>
<p>I suggest that you stop writing comments here and first go and learn what love is before you come back.</p>
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