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		By: Robbie		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Rego Motsepe

The Biblical fact is...Those who are unwilling or incapable of discerning or judging between good and evil are in this manner revealing either their disobedience or their immaturity.
And you plead?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rego Motsepe</p>
<p>The Biblical fact is&#8230;Those who are unwilling or incapable of discerning or judging between good and evil are in this manner revealing either their disobedience or their immaturity.<br />
And you plead?</p>
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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 May 2019 07:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2011/12/14/shocking-kobus-van-rensburgs-son-preaching-while-drunk-at-sunday-morning-service-20-nov-2011/#comment-493067&quot;&gt;Rego Motsepe&lt;/a&gt;.

Dear Rego Motsepe

1st, please answer Tom&#039;s question.

2nd, when &quot;Jesus said let him without sin cast the 1st stone&quot; he was not taking to ministers of churches, he was talking to ordinary people in the street who were going to stone a woman for committing adultery.

3rd, it&#039;s this &#039;judge not&#039; attitude that has allowed Satan to run rampant in the church. &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/09/11/christians-judge-righteously/&quot;&gt;The bible in fact tells us to Judge Righteously&lt;/a&gt;. 

4th, I&#039;m going to do an article on a list of Satanic ministers in South Africa and I hope you come to comment and tell us to &#039;judge not&#039;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2011/12/14/shocking-kobus-van-rensburgs-son-preaching-while-drunk-at-sunday-morning-service-20-nov-2011/#comment-493067" >Rego Motsepe</a>.</p>
<p>Dear Rego Motsepe</p>
<p>1st, please answer Tom&#8217;s question.</p>
<p>2nd, when &#8220;Jesus said let him without sin cast the 1st stone&#8221; he was not taking to ministers of churches, he was talking to ordinary people in the street who were going to stone a woman for committing adultery.</p>
<p>3rd, it&#8217;s this &#8216;judge not&#8217; attitude that has allowed Satan to run rampant in the church. <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/09/11/christians-judge-righteously/" >The bible in fact tells us to Judge Righteously</a>. </p>
<p>4th, I&#8217;m going to do an article on a list of Satanic ministers in South Africa and I hope you come to comment and tell us to &#8216;judge not&#8217;.</p>
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		By: Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 May 2019 06:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2011/12/14/shocking-kobus-van-rensburgs-son-preaching-while-drunk-at-sunday-morning-service-20-nov-2011/#comment-493067&quot;&gt;Rego Motsepe&lt;/a&gt;.

Rego Motsepe

And Paul who received the Gospel directly in a vision of Jesus said:

&lt;blockquote&gt;But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. (Galatians 1:8-9).&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Nadab and Abihu, the two sons of Aaron, were struck down dead by God when they brought strange fire before Him. Today preachers can appear drunk before Him and nothing happens? Why? Do you know?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2011/12/14/shocking-kobus-van-rensburgs-son-preaching-while-drunk-at-sunday-morning-service-20-nov-2011/#comment-493067" >Rego Motsepe</a>.</p>
<p>Rego Motsepe</p>
<p>And Paul who received the Gospel directly in a vision of Jesus said:</p>
<blockquote><p>But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. (Galatians 1:8-9).</p></blockquote>
<p>Nadab and Abihu, the two sons of Aaron, were struck down dead by God when they brought strange fire before Him. Today preachers can appear drunk before Him and nothing happens? Why? Do you know?</p>
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		By: Rego Motsepe		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 May 2019 04:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Judge not. One man&#039;s sin is not better than your... Jesus said let him without sin cast the 1st stone.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judge not. One man&#8217;s sin is not better than your&#8230; Jesus said let him without sin cast the 1st stone.</p>
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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Apr 2019 09:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2011/12/14/shocking-kobus-van-rensburgs-son-preaching-while-drunk-at-sunday-morning-service-20-nov-2011/#comment-490125&quot;&gt;Richard Kirk&lt;/a&gt;.

Dear Richard Kirk

How about this:  https://www.discerningtheworld.com/category/topics-of-interest/judging/

All the scripture you need.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2011/12/14/shocking-kobus-van-rensburgs-son-preaching-while-drunk-at-sunday-morning-service-20-nov-2011/#comment-490125" >Richard Kirk</a>.</p>
<p>Dear Richard Kirk</p>
<p>How about this:  <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/category/topics-of-interest/judging/"  rel="ugc">https://www.discerningtheworld.com/category/topics-of-interest/judging/</a></p>
<p>All the scripture you need.</p>
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		By: Richard Kirk		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[How about some more scripture. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Judge not lest you be also judged!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about some more scripture. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Judge not lest you be also judged!</p>
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		By: Jon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Mar 2016 07:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It is really astonishing how people keep on defending Kobus van Rensburg. This is the gospel Kobus van Rensburg jnr. is preaching: &quot; Spirit Word Ministries stands for the gospel, we preach the good news. Christ came that we can live richly and healthy...Koos jnr&quot; . This was Kobus van Rensburg jnr Facebook entry on February 15, 2014, i have the screen print for those who don&#039;t believe me. When I read the vicious comments aimed at the author of this article, it is frightening to see the lack of biblical discernment. 

There is a bunch of these so called &quot;prophets&quot; and &quot;apostles&quot; with a large following in South Africa. Very dangerous teachings. Guys like Leon du Preez and Gebhardt Berndt is gaining almost a cult like following in South Africa. I recently commented on Leon du Preez&#039;s facebook page about his blatantly false utterances, the attacks and comments I received from his followers were very similar to comments received by the author of this article. Leon du Preez and Gebhardt Berndt is now hosting the &quot;School of the Supernatural&quot; course at the Hatfield Christian Church in Pretoria. They have modules on the subject the works.

The troubling thing is I have close friends and family caught up in these cults of Kobus van Rensburg, Leon du Preez and the likes. Lost some dear friends because I warned them against these guys and their teachings.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is really astonishing how people keep on defending Kobus van Rensburg. This is the gospel Kobus van Rensburg jnr. is preaching: &#8221; Spirit Word Ministries stands for the gospel, we preach the good news. Christ came that we can live richly and healthy&#8230;Koos jnr&#8221; . This was Kobus van Rensburg jnr Facebook entry on February 15, 2014, i have the screen print for those who don&#8217;t believe me. When I read the vicious comments aimed at the author of this article, it is frightening to see the lack of biblical discernment. </p>
<p>There is a bunch of these so called &#8220;prophets&#8221; and &#8220;apostles&#8221; with a large following in South Africa. Very dangerous teachings. Guys like Leon du Preez and Gebhardt Berndt is gaining almost a cult like following in South Africa. I recently commented on Leon du Preez&#8217;s facebook page about his blatantly false utterances, the attacks and comments I received from his followers were very similar to comments received by the author of this article. Leon du Preez and Gebhardt Berndt is now hosting the &#8220;School of the Supernatural&#8221; course at the Hatfield Christian Church in Pretoria. They have modules on the subject the works.</p>
<p>The troubling thing is I have close friends and family caught up in these cults of Kobus van Rensburg, Leon du Preez and the likes. Lost some dear friends because I warned them against these guys and their teachings.</p>
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		By: Eunice		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[hi
i only ask that we keep praying and contending for the faith.
i just heard of Kobus today and decided to google him. thank God this is a Christian forum. please;
let the insults cease
let the Word be studied
let the truth be proclaimed.

many abound who rise and work all sorts. many of such are undiscovered, yet, they spread their beliefs
let our lights so shine before men...
and keep praying that the truth brought to us by Jesus Christ be not snatched from us whether by real/true or fake men. He is our only true/genuine model... undisputable.
this truth, John3:16.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi<br />
i only ask that we keep praying and contending for the faith.<br />
i just heard of Kobus today and decided to google him. thank God this is a Christian forum. please;<br />
let the insults cease<br />
let the Word be studied<br />
let the truth be proclaimed.</p>
<p>many abound who rise and work all sorts. many of such are undiscovered, yet, they spread their beliefs<br />
let our lights so shine before men&#8230;<br />
and keep praying that the truth brought to us by Jesus Christ be not snatched from us whether by real/true or fake men. He is our only true/genuine model&#8230; undisputable.<br />
this truth, John3:16.</p>
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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2014 14:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2011/12/14/shocking-kobus-van-rensburgs-son-preaching-while-drunk-at-sunday-morning-service-20-nov-2011/#comment-362755&quot;&gt;ali&lt;/a&gt;.

ali

REALLY!! He was not &quot;drunk&quot; in the Holy Spirit, but by a demonic spirit.  No where in the bible did anyone ever get drunk in the spirit.  And if it&#039;s not a demon then he is really drunk.

STOP JUDGING us for speaking the truth.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2011/12/14/shocking-kobus-van-rensburgs-son-preaching-while-drunk-at-sunday-morning-service-20-nov-2011/#comment-362755" >ali</a>.</p>
<p>ali</p>
<p>REALLY!! He was not &#8220;drunk&#8221; in the Holy Spirit, but by a demonic spirit.  No where in the bible did anyone ever get drunk in the spirit.  And if it&#8217;s not a demon then he is really drunk.</p>
<p>STOP JUDGING us for speaking the truth.</p>
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		By: ali		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2014 13:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[PEOPLE!!!! REALLY!!!! He was &quot;drunk&quot; in the HOLY SPIRIT!!!! and not physically drunk. 
STOP JUDGING. 
Media will take any headline and change it for their benefit. 

The most amaz]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PEOPLE!!!! REALLY!!!! He was &#8220;drunk&#8221; in the HOLY SPIRIT!!!! and not physically drunk.<br />
STOP JUDGING.<br />
Media will take any headline and change it for their benefit. </p>
<p>The most amaz</p>
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