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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
		<link>https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/05/26/tb-joshua-false-miracle-man/#comment-486264</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/05/26/tb-joshua-false-miracle-man/#comment-486259&quot;&gt;PJ&lt;/a&gt;.

Dear PJ

In humility I would like to ask you this question based on something you said.

You said &quot;The style of Jesus in the Holy Ghost is to praying for people by either raising hands towards them or laying hand on them &lt;strong&gt;and speak the Word to command healing&lt;/strong&gt;&quot;

Who are you commanding?  The bible says we &#039;ask&#039;, no where does it say we &#039;command&#039;.

Jesus says John 14:13  &quot;And whatsoever ye shall &lt;strong&gt;ask &lt;/strong&gt;in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.&quot;

G154 αἰτέω aiteo (ai-te&#039;-ō) v.  &lt;strong&gt;ask &lt;/strong&gt;
1. to ask.
2. to request.

If, it&#039;s His will...

1 John 5:14-15 14 And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, &lt;strong&gt;if we ask any thing according to his will&lt;/strong&gt;, he heareth us: 15 And if we know that he hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of him.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/05/26/tb-joshua-false-miracle-man/#comment-486259" >PJ</a>.</p>
<p>Dear PJ</p>
<p>In humility I would like to ask you this question based on something you said.</p>
<p>You said &#8220;The style of Jesus in the Holy Ghost is to praying for people by either raising hands towards them or laying hand on them <strong>and speak the Word to command healing</strong>&#8221;</p>
<p>Who are you commanding?  The bible says we &#8216;ask&#8217;, no where does it say we &#8216;command&#8217;.</p>
<p>Jesus says John 14:13  &#8220;And whatsoever ye shall <strong>ask </strong>in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.&#8221;</p>
<p>G154 αἰτέω aiteo (ai-te&#8217;-ō) v.  <strong>ask </strong><br />
1. to ask.<br />
2. to request.</p>
<p>If, it&#8217;s His will&#8230;</p>
<p>1 John 5:14-15 14 And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, <strong>if we ask any thing according to his will</strong>, he heareth us: 15 And if we know that he hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of him.</p>
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		By: PJ		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2018 10:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s no one who loved TBJ like did,  I can&#039;t explain....
For many years I introduced people to watch Emmanuel TV.  I even helped lot of people install Emmanuel TV channel on DStv. I even tried to compare Tbj  with other great Men of God. 
The mistake I did, I never wanted to listen to critics about him. I thought people were lying against him because they got paid.  But finally I started hearing critics from people who worked with him for 11 years and others 14 years and one of them was the second in command to tbj... But let&#039;s say if they left the Scan and started exposing TBJ because of money,  I don&#039;t think there is anyone that could&#039;ve offered them more money than TBJ
I used to refuse to refuse to listen until I myself started to conduct my own investigations. 
I even prayed about it. God started to show me lot of things before the Scoan building collapsed and started to get many evidences.  Many evidences is the secret  similarities between the ministries of TBJ and other MINISTRIES that have already been exposed. 

But during my time with God he showed me things and methods that not biblical. But God told me that he is going to expose the false prophets one after the other and some of them have been exposed already, some have been caught with live snakes in church service boss day light and some have been accused of raping lot of their church members severally for many years. 
There are a lot of evidences although they wouldn&#039;t accept To be defeated...  What amazes me many believers don&#039;t remember the words if Jesus in Matthew 7:21-24 and Matthew 24:24. False prophets can also do GREAT SIGNS and WONDERS to DECEIVE even the chosen. 
People are impressed by fake humility and works of charity and reconciliation. All that cannot make anyone a genuine servant of God. 
I believe in genuine  miracles, signs and wonders. Since I was 14 to 24 years of age, God uses me and my friends to chase demons and heals the sick. It wasn&#039;t a thing to boast about,  there was phones,  no camera,  no media to impress people or to attract the crowd. Everything was done in humility for God&#039;s glory, without disgracing anybody and embarrassing people for the sake of broadcasting testimonies. We never collected any money from anyone because God&#039;s blessings are not for sale and we didn&#039;t want to be called names if titles because we knew the glory belongs to God alone. 
We were taught by the Spirit of God that God&#039;s anointing cannot expire Or renewed though receiving of items. The style of Jesus in the Holy Ghost  is to praying for people by either raising hands towards them or laying hand on them and speak the Word to command healing. It&#039;s not about impressing people by doing physical gestures. 
So people who don&#039;t read the bible,  they think everyone is from God. 
I suggest you pray that God will visit you and save you from false pastors and fake prophets.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s no one who loved TBJ like did,  I can&#8217;t explain&#8230;.<br />
For many years I introduced people to watch Emmanuel TV.  I even helped lot of people install Emmanuel TV channel on DStv. I even tried to compare Tbj  with other great Men of God.<br />
The mistake I did, I never wanted to listen to critics about him. I thought people were lying against him because they got paid.  But finally I started hearing critics from people who worked with him for 11 years and others 14 years and one of them was the second in command to tbj&#8230; But let&#8217;s say if they left the Scan and started exposing TBJ because of money,  I don&#8217;t think there is anyone that could&#8217;ve offered them more money than TBJ<br />
I used to refuse to refuse to listen until I myself started to conduct my own investigations.<br />
I even prayed about it. God started to show me lot of things before the Scoan building collapsed and started to get many evidences.  Many evidences is the secret  similarities between the ministries of TBJ and other MINISTRIES that have already been exposed. </p>
<p>But during my time with God he showed me things and methods that not biblical. But God told me that he is going to expose the false prophets one after the other and some of them have been exposed already, some have been caught with live snakes in church service boss day light and some have been accused of raping lot of their church members severally for many years.<br />
There are a lot of evidences although they wouldn&#8217;t accept To be defeated&#8230;  What amazes me many believers don&#8217;t remember the words if Jesus in Matthew 7:21-24 and Matthew 24:24. False prophets can also do GREAT SIGNS and WONDERS to DECEIVE even the chosen.<br />
People are impressed by fake humility and works of charity and reconciliation. All that cannot make anyone a genuine servant of God.<br />
I believe in genuine  miracles, signs and wonders. Since I was 14 to 24 years of age, God uses me and my friends to chase demons and heals the sick. It wasn&#8217;t a thing to boast about,  there was phones,  no camera,  no media to impress people or to attract the crowd. Everything was done in humility for God&#8217;s glory, without disgracing anybody and embarrassing people for the sake of broadcasting testimonies. We never collected any money from anyone because God&#8217;s blessings are not for sale and we didn&#8217;t want to be called names if titles because we knew the glory belongs to God alone.<br />
We were taught by the Spirit of God that God&#8217;s anointing cannot expire Or renewed though receiving of items. The style of Jesus in the Holy Ghost  is to praying for people by either raising hands towards them or laying hand on them and speak the Word to command healing. It&#8217;s not about impressing people by doing physical gestures.<br />
So people who don&#8217;t read the bible,  they think everyone is from God.<br />
I suggest you pray that God will visit you and save you from false pastors and fake prophets.</p>
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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
		<link>https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/05/26/tb-joshua-false-miracle-man/#comment-464091</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2018 09:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/05/26/tb-joshua-false-miracle-man/#comment-464089&quot;&gt;Robbie&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks Robbie

xcyborg_Prophet has not returned... :waiting: These &#039;judge not runaways&#039; are funny...

A &#039;xcyborg&#039; is also &lt;em&gt;artificial&lt;/em&gt; intelligence.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/05/26/tb-joshua-false-miracle-man/#comment-464089" >Robbie</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks Robbie</p>
<p>xcyborg_Prophet has not returned&#8230; :waiting: These &#8216;judge not runaways&#8217; are funny&#8230;</p>
<p>A &#8216;xcyborg&#8217; is also <em>artificial</em> intelligence.</p>
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		By: Robbie		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2018 06:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Xcyborg-prophet says...
&quot;I am not a SCOAN member, But I will not use the words you are using against TB&quot; - Why not? i am sure you could teach him a thing or two with your extended abilities?

cyborg
ˈsʌɪbɔːɡ/Submit
noun
a fictional or hypothetical person whose physical abilities are extended beyond normal human limitations by mechanical elements built into the body.

Judge not is the most oft misquoted verse in the Bible. People use it to hide their sinful lifestyles.
The Bible is clear and admonishes us to judge. NOT just judge but also to reprove, correct, rebuke and yes EXPOSE and eventually have NOTHING to do with them. It happens when we pay pastors and profits to read scripture to us instead of getting stuck in ourselves. We get stuck at Matt 7:1 and no further.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Xcyborg-prophet says&#8230;<br />
&#8220;I am not a SCOAN member, But I will not use the words you are using against TB&#8221; &#8211; Why not? i am sure you could teach him a thing or two with your extended abilities?</p>
<p>cyborg<br />
ˈsʌɪbɔːɡ/Submit<br />
noun<br />
a fictional or hypothetical person whose physical abilities are extended beyond normal human limitations by mechanical elements built into the body.</p>
<p>Judge not is the most oft misquoted verse in the Bible. People use it to hide their sinful lifestyles.<br />
The Bible is clear and admonishes us to judge. NOT just judge but also to reprove, correct, rebuke and yes EXPOSE and eventually have NOTHING to do with them. It happens when we pay pastors and profits to read scripture to us instead of getting stuck in ourselves. We get stuck at Matt 7:1 and no further.</p>
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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
		<link>https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/05/26/tb-joshua-false-miracle-man/#comment-464032</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deborah (Discerning the World)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2018 10:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/05/26/tb-joshua-false-miracle-man/#comment-464010&quot;&gt;Deborah (Discerning the World)&lt;/a&gt;.

Dear xcyborg_Prophet

You said &quot;The bible commands us not to judge one another.&quot;

Well you judged me and condemn, and said that I would be one of those who would have persecuted Jesus Christ when he performed His miracles when Jesus Christ walked the earth. What a disgusting comment to make to a Christian. I think you should practice what you preach and not judge us for pointing out that TB Joshua is a witch doctor who follows Roman Catholic doctrine.

The bible is clear, it says you MUST &lt;strong&gt;TEST THE SPIRITS&lt;/strong&gt; to see if they are from God...
&lt;ol&gt;

1 John 4:1-3 1Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 2Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: 3And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.&lt;/ol&gt;

I have tested TB Joshua on many levels, and he is a false teacher, Satan&#039;s minister of righteousness.  

&lt;ol&gt;
2 Corinthians 11:14-15 14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works&lt;/ol&gt;

TB Joshua will say to Jesus Christ one day that he did wondrous miracles in HIS NAME and the Bible says Jesus Christ will say to him...

&lt;ol&gt;
Matthew 7:21-23  21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. &lt;/ol&gt;

I pray that TB Joshua repents of his evil ways and is truly born again.

You said &quot;On the lighter side how many people have you healed this year? How many dead have you raised this year? How many people have you brought smiles onto their faces this year? Is that not Christ’s command to believers?&quot;

Let&#039;s look at that verse shall we, this is what the bible says: 

&lt;ol&gt;
Mark 16:17-18  17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; 18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. &lt;/ol&gt;

Now, here&#039;s a &lt;em&gt;real &lt;/em&gt;funny one for you:  How many serpents have you picked up lately, were bitten and did not die? How many deadly things did you drink and not die?  As you said: &lt;strong&gt;Is that not Christ’s command to believers?&lt;/strong&gt;  And no, you are not allowed to milk the venom out of the snake or to pull the snakes teeth out.

Go on xcyborg_Prophet, obey Christ&#039;s command.  You have to be able to do all of that.  Not just pick pieces of a verse out of the bible to make your &#039;nonsense fables&#039; that false teachers are in fact &#039;men/women of God&#039; sound true.

But since you can&#039;t answer that, let me help you understand the whole of that verse, it&#039;s very simple actually. (In fact I had to explain this to someone else just the other day so &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2012/06/23/the-biblical-holy-spirit-vs-the-false-unholy-spirit-of-fire/#comment-463630&quot;&gt;here is the comment&lt;/a&gt; see below:)

&lt;blockquote&gt;Who was Jesus Christ taking too in Mark 16? Well, lets have a look &lt;strong&gt;at the whole passage and see&lt;/strong&gt;…

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Mark 16:11-20 11 And they, when they had heard that he was alive, and had been seen of her, believed not.12 After that he appeared in another form to two of them, as they walked, and went into the country.13 And they went and told it to the residue: neither believed they them.14 Afterward he appeared to the eleven as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they believed not them which had seen him after he was risen.15 And he said to them, Go you into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.16 He that believes and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believes not shall be damned.17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.19 So then after the Lord had spoken to them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.20 And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.&lt;/ol&gt;

Ah, don’t you just love it when you find the answer to scripture in scripture  :thumbsup: “And they went forth”. Who are they? The Apostles 2 + 11 + later the Apostle Paul who Jesus spoke to all of them personally.. “The Lord working with them“…”with signs following“…“them” and them alone.  :clap:&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You said &quot;How many people have you brought smiles onto their faces this year?&quot;

Satan makes millions upon millions of people smile daily when he produces false miracles and makes people rich happy because of their own lusts and greed. Are you saying that Satan is now a Christian and obeying Christ&#039;s command, because he makes people smile? When a Muslim smiles on his way to Mosque to worship Allah, are you implying that Islam is biblical and Christ&#039;s command?  Heaven forbid.

Satan tempted Jesus Christ, and said he will give Him all the riches in the world if he falls down and worships him, this is what happens to man daily and it puts a &lt;strong&gt;big smile on their face.&lt;/strong&gt;

&lt;ol&gt;Matthew 4:9-10 9 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; 9And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me. 10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.&lt;/ol&gt;
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<p>Dear xcyborg_Prophet</p>
<p>You said &#8220;The bible commands us not to judge one another.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well you judged me and condemn, and said that I would be one of those who would have persecuted Jesus Christ when he performed His miracles when Jesus Christ walked the earth. What a disgusting comment to make to a Christian. I think you should practice what you preach and not judge us for pointing out that TB Joshua is a witch doctor who follows Roman Catholic doctrine.</p>
<p>The bible is clear, it says you MUST <strong>TEST THE SPIRITS</strong> to see if they are from God&#8230;</p>
<ol>
<p>1 John 4:1-3 1Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 2Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: 3And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.</ol>
<p>I have tested TB Joshua on many levels, and he is a false teacher, Satan&#8217;s minister of righteousness.  </p>
<ol>
2 Corinthians 11:14-15 14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works</ol>
<p>TB Joshua will say to Jesus Christ one day that he did wondrous miracles in HIS NAME and the Bible says Jesus Christ will say to him&#8230;</p>
<ol>
Matthew 7:21-23  21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. </ol>
<p>I pray that TB Joshua repents of his evil ways and is truly born again.</p>
<p>You said &#8220;On the lighter side how many people have you healed this year? How many dead have you raised this year? How many people have you brought smiles onto their faces this year? Is that not Christ’s command to believers?&#8221;</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s look at that verse shall we, this is what the bible says: </p>
<ol>
Mark 16:17-18  17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; 18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. </ol>
<p>Now, here&#8217;s a <em>real </em>funny one for you:  How many serpents have you picked up lately, were bitten and did not die? How many deadly things did you drink and not die?  As you said: <strong>Is that not Christ’s command to believers?</strong>  And no, you are not allowed to milk the venom out of the snake or to pull the snakes teeth out.</p>
<p>Go on xcyborg_Prophet, obey Christ&#8217;s command.  You have to be able to do all of that.  Not just pick pieces of a verse out of the bible to make your &#8216;nonsense fables&#8217; that false teachers are in fact &#8216;men/women of God&#8217; sound true.</p>
<p>But since you can&#8217;t answer that, let me help you understand the whole of that verse, it&#8217;s very simple actually. (In fact I had to explain this to someone else just the other day so <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2012/06/23/the-biblical-holy-spirit-vs-the-false-unholy-spirit-of-fire/#comment-463630" >here is the comment</a> see below:)</p>
<blockquote><p>Who was Jesus Christ taking too in Mark 16? Well, lets have a look <strong>at the whole passage and see</strong>…</p>
<ol>
Mark 16:11-20 11 And they, when they had heard that he was alive, and had been seen of her, believed not.12 After that he appeared in another form to two of them, as they walked, and went into the country.13 And they went and told it to the residue: neither believed they them.14 Afterward he appeared to the eleven as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they believed not them which had seen him after he was risen.15 And he said to them, Go you into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.16 He that believes and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believes not shall be damned.17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.19 So then after the Lord had spoken to them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.20 And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.</ol>
<p>Ah, don’t you just love it when you find the answer to scripture in scripture  :thumbsup: “And they went forth”. Who are they? The Apostles 2 + 11 + later the Apostle Paul who Jesus spoke to all of them personally.. “The Lord working with them“…”with signs following“…“them” and them alone.  :clap:</p></blockquote>
<p>You said &#8220;How many people have you brought smiles onto their faces this year?&#8221;</p>
<p>Satan makes millions upon millions of people smile daily when he produces false miracles and makes people rich happy because of their own lusts and greed. Are you saying that Satan is now a Christian and obeying Christ&#8217;s command, because he makes people smile? When a Muslim smiles on his way to Mosque to worship Allah, are you implying that Islam is biblical and Christ&#8217;s command?  Heaven forbid.</p>
<p>Satan tempted Jesus Christ, and said he will give Him all the riches in the world if he falls down and worships him, this is what happens to man daily and it puts a <strong>big smile on their face.</strong></p>
<ol>Matthew 4:9-10 9 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; 9And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me. 10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.</ol>
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		By: xcyborg_Prophet		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2018 08:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Madam Deborah, The bible commands us not to judge one another.TB Joshua does not need to be Jesus to work miracles, He just needs to believe in Jesus.
Joh 14:12  Verily, verily, I say unto you, he that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto the Father. 
I am not a SCOAN member, But I will not  use the words you are using against TB.

1Co 10:12  Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.  I am fighting the fight of faith  and will not assume the position of condemning other until I have received my crown. On the lighter side how many people have you healed this year? How many dead have you raised this year? How many people have you brought smiles onto their faces this year? Is that not Christ&#039;s command to believers?  There is more you can do to help populate heaven than condemn others.  If you think there is something wrong PRAY....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Madam Deborah, The bible commands us not to judge one another.TB Joshua does not need to be Jesus to work miracles, He just needs to believe in Jesus.<br />
Joh 14:12  Verily, verily, I say unto you, he that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto the Father.<br />
I am not a SCOAN member, But I will not  use the words you are using against TB.</p>
<p>1Co 10:12  Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.  I am fighting the fight of faith  and will not assume the position of condemning other until I have received my crown. On the lighter side how many people have you healed this year? How many dead have you raised this year? How many people have you brought smiles onto their faces this year? Is that not Christ&#8217;s command to believers?  There is more you can do to help populate heaven than condemn others.  If you think there is something wrong PRAY&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2018 16:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/05/26/tb-joshua-false-miracle-man/#comment-464007&quot;&gt;xcyborg_Prophet&lt;/a&gt;.

xcyborg_Prophet

I find it amazing that you are so blind that you can&#039;t tell a Roman Catholic church from a biblical church.  You also can&#039;t tell that TB Joshua is NOT Jesus Christ who is recorded in the Word of God...TB Joshua and his fake miracles will NEVER be recorded in the Bible.  Lord have mercy on you and your SCOAN church.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/05/26/tb-joshua-false-miracle-man/#comment-464007" >xcyborg_Prophet</a>.</p>
<p>xcyborg_Prophet</p>
<p>I find it amazing that you are so blind that you can&#8217;t tell a Roman Catholic church from a biblical church.  You also can&#8217;t tell that TB Joshua is NOT Jesus Christ who is recorded in the Word of God&#8230;TB Joshua and his fake miracles will NEVER be recorded in the Bible.  Lord have mercy on you and your SCOAN church.</p>
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		By: xcyborg_Prophet		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2018 14:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It is a shame that many of the miracles Jesus did were not recorded. i am sure if he were in the synagogue today and spat on the ground and rubbed it on a blind man&#039;s eyes to make him see, people will still persecute him. Lord have mercy on your church -John 20:30, John 21:25]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a shame that many of the miracles Jesus did were not recorded. i am sure if he were in the synagogue today and spat on the ground and rubbed it on a blind man&#8217;s eyes to make him see, people will still persecute him. Lord have mercy on your church -John 20:30, John 21:25</p>
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		By: Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)		</title>
		<link>https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/05/26/tb-joshua-false-miracle-man/#comment-452690</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2016 15:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/05/26/tb-joshua-false-miracle-man/#comment-452687&quot;&gt;Science Watch&lt;/a&gt;.

Science Watch

TB Joshua is not a Christian. He is a witch doctor in Christian disguise. There is not a single example in Scripture where Jesus or his disciples used the same tactics TB Joshua uses to allegedly heal people. 

Jesus never said that He came to the world to heal the sick every time someone prays for them. He said: &quot;For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost.&quot; (Luk 19:10). Your focus is wrong, completely wrong.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/05/26/tb-joshua-false-miracle-man/#comment-452687" >Science Watch</a>.</p>
<p>Science Watch</p>
<p>TB Joshua is not a Christian. He is a witch doctor in Christian disguise. There is not a single example in Scripture where Jesus or his disciples used the same tactics TB Joshua uses to allegedly heal people. </p>
<p>Jesus never said that He came to the world to heal the sick every time someone prays for them. He said: &#8220;For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost.&#8221; (Luk 19:10). Your focus is wrong, completely wrong.</p>
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		By: Science Watch		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2016 14:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[FAITH HEALING IN SCOAN Nigeria VS MEDICAL HEALING
It is a well-known debate that Faith healing has being a controversial issue since the coming of modern scientific discovery and research on diseases and sickness. Many philosophers of science has always made the claims that religious belief and miracles belongs to history, science will replace religion, the modern man will no longer be interested in religious believes or spirituality. The time will come where they will never support the ideal or believed in anything like faith healing. The religious bodies on their own parts especially the Christians have always stood their ground on the existence of God and faith healing for them even though very few people have experienced any miracle in their churches. If the Priest’s heart is right with Jesus, then miracles happen. One real block to miracles is the scientific sterile approach to bible study. As a result, it becomes a mind game. One modern day church, Scoan, Nigeria has changed world views on God and His work through the Son God, Jesus Christ, 
GOD is far greater than science after science is God; where science ends God starts.

Evidence shows that in the modern ministry of the church, the ministry of Tb Joshua, at Scoan, Nigeria who heals and delivers evil spirits by the power of Jesus Christ,  have come to prove to the world that those scientists are wrong with their claims, the fact remains that there are a few great ministers of God around the world that are healing by the Power Of Jesus Christ. 
But in the case of Tb Joshua’s ministry, the incredible healing and life restoration taking place there is so massive and mind-blowing. Terminal illness and disabilities are medically verified as healed. Medical science must be dumbfounded by the new reality especially now, that TB Joshua, Scoan, Nigeria have anointed five wise men and more are coming he said, which include female (wise women), to established an unmistakable fact that the future of the world lays in the hands of the church of God, and those speculations made by the founders and philosophers of science and medical science will not see the light of the day for God is the creation of heaven and earth including science.

Tb Joshua does say that “Doctors treat; God heals, God is the one that motivate doctors to treat, medicine is Nature”. Prophet TB Joshua does not just say it but has proven it all the time through the mind-blowing healing power of God in his life. The question is not, will medical scientist accept the easily verifiable facts of thousands of healed persons. Jesus don’t need scientific approval ! Let the healed speak for themselves.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FAITH HEALING IN SCOAN Nigeria VS MEDICAL HEALING<br />
It is a well-known debate that Faith healing has being a controversial issue since the coming of modern scientific discovery and research on diseases and sickness. Many philosophers of science has always made the claims that religious belief and miracles belongs to history, science will replace religion, the modern man will no longer be interested in religious believes or spirituality. The time will come where they will never support the ideal or believed in anything like faith healing. The religious bodies on their own parts especially the Christians have always stood their ground on the existence of God and faith healing for them even though very few people have experienced any miracle in their churches. If the Priest’s heart is right with Jesus, then miracles happen. One real block to miracles is the scientific sterile approach to bible study. As a result, it becomes a mind game. One modern day church, Scoan, Nigeria has changed world views on God and His work through the Son God, Jesus Christ,<br />
GOD is far greater than science after science is God; where science ends God starts.</p>
<p>Evidence shows that in the modern ministry of the church, the ministry of Tb Joshua, at Scoan, Nigeria who heals and delivers evil spirits by the power of Jesus Christ,  have come to prove to the world that those scientists are wrong with their claims, the fact remains that there are a few great ministers of God around the world that are healing by the Power Of Jesus Christ.<br />
But in the case of Tb Joshua’s ministry, the incredible healing and life restoration taking place there is so massive and mind-blowing. Terminal illness and disabilities are medically verified as healed. Medical science must be dumbfounded by the new reality especially now, that TB Joshua, Scoan, Nigeria have anointed five wise men and more are coming he said, which include female (wise women), to established an unmistakable fact that the future of the world lays in the hands of the church of God, and those speculations made by the founders and philosophers of science and medical science will not see the light of the day for God is the creation of heaven and earth including science.</p>
<p>Tb Joshua does say that “Doctors treat; God heals, God is the one that motivate doctors to treat, medicine is Nature”. Prophet TB Joshua does not just say it but has proven it all the time through the mind-blowing healing power of God in his life. The question is not, will medical scientist accept the easily verifiable facts of thousands of healed persons. Jesus don’t need scientific approval ! Let the healed speak for themselves.</p>
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