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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Nov 2019 12:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dear Eddy

You said &quot;However this prayer is a topic that I would love to take to my support group tonight and see what the members there make of it,&quot;

Please ask them to all take their bibles with them to your group and compare the prayer to scripture...  :thumbsup:]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Eddy</p>
<p>You said &#8220;However this prayer is a topic that I would love to take to my support group tonight and see what the members there make of it,&#8221;</p>
<p>Please ask them to all take their bibles with them to your group and compare the prayer to scripture&#8230;  :thumbsup:</p>
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		By: Tom (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Nov 2019 15:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2017/09/21/rhema-bible-church-curses/#comment-494588&quot;&gt;Eddy&lt;/a&gt;.

Eddy, If you can prove to us that this ungodly prayer is in the Bible, we will join you in your deception.

&lt;blockquote&gt;May God bless you with DISCOMFORT
at easy answers, half-truths and superficial relationships
so that you may live deep within your heart.
 
May God bless you with ANGER
at injustice, oppression, and exploitation of people
so that you may work for justice, freedom and peace.
 
May God bless you with TEARS
to shed for those who suffer pain, rejection, hunger and war
so that you may reach out your hand to comfort them and to turn their pain into joy.

And may God bless you with enough FOOLISHNESS
to believe that you can make a difference in the world
so that you can do what others claim cannot be done
to bring justice and kindness to all our children and the poor.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The Holy Spirit is not a Spirit of discomfort. He is called the COMFORTER. What you are supporting is another spirit, NOT the Holy Spirit.

&lt;blockquote&gt;But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. For if he that cometh preacheth &lt;strong&gt;another Jesus&lt;/strong&gt;, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive &lt;strong&gt;another spirit&lt;/strong&gt;, which ye have not received, or &lt;strong&gt;another gospel&lt;/strong&gt;, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him. (2 Co 11:3-4)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Please make sure you have the genuine Gospel, the genuine Jesus and the genuine Spirit. Anything other than this will damn you to hell.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2017/09/21/rhema-bible-church-curses/#comment-494588" >Eddy</a>.</p>
<p>Eddy, If you can prove to us that this ungodly prayer is in the Bible, we will join you in your deception.</p>
<blockquote><p>May God bless you with DISCOMFORT<br />
at easy answers, half-truths and superficial relationships<br />
so that you may live deep within your heart.</p>
<p>May God bless you with ANGER<br />
at injustice, oppression, and exploitation of people<br />
so that you may work for justice, freedom and peace.</p>
<p>May God bless you with TEARS<br />
to shed for those who suffer pain, rejection, hunger and war<br />
so that you may reach out your hand to comfort them and to turn their pain into joy.</p>
<p>And may God bless you with enough FOOLISHNESS<br />
to believe that you can make a difference in the world<br />
so that you can do what others claim cannot be done<br />
to bring justice and kindness to all our children and the poor.</p></blockquote>
<p>The Holy Spirit is not a Spirit of discomfort. He is called the COMFORTER. What you are supporting is another spirit, NOT the Holy Spirit.</p>
<blockquote><p>But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. For if he that cometh preacheth <strong>another Jesus</strong>, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive <strong>another spirit</strong>, which ye have not received, or <strong>another gospel</strong>, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him. (2 Co 11:3-4)</p></blockquote>
<p>Please make sure you have the genuine Gospel, the genuine Jesus and the genuine Spirit. Anything other than this will damn you to hell.</p>
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		By: Eddy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Nov 2019 10:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think that the above prayer is for another god as you put it and I don&#039;t believe that any rehab center would want to curse recovering addicts or their families, do you have an understanding of addiction,co dependency,manipulation, the behaviors of addiction? I do not attend the church but I do know some of the family members personally and can tell you without a doubt in my mind that they would not go and curse people, especially pastor Allan. I would love to know if any if you understand the effects of drug addiction?
ever heard of pastor steven furtick from elevation church? I wonder if he would employ anyone who curses people to be on his team... I highly doubt it

However this prayer is a topic that I would love to take to my support group tonight and see what the members there make of it, seeing as we have all come out of primary care christian rehabs, none of us from hands of compassion but regardless slandering a rehab is not very christian like and is very judgmental, maybe you should get back to your bible and see what it says about judgement.

just some thoughts from a grateful recovering addict]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think that the above prayer is for another god as you put it and I don&#8217;t believe that any rehab center would want to curse recovering addicts or their families, do you have an understanding of addiction,co dependency,manipulation, the behaviors of addiction? I do not attend the church but I do know some of the family members personally and can tell you without a doubt in my mind that they would not go and curse people, especially pastor Allan. I would love to know if any if you understand the effects of drug addiction?<br />
ever heard of pastor steven furtick from elevation church? I wonder if he would employ anyone who curses people to be on his team&#8230; I highly doubt it</p>
<p>However this prayer is a topic that I would love to take to my support group tonight and see what the members there make of it, seeing as we have all come out of primary care christian rehabs, none of us from hands of compassion but regardless slandering a rehab is not very christian like and is very judgmental, maybe you should get back to your bible and see what it says about judgement.</p>
<p>just some thoughts from a grateful recovering addict</p>
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		By: Katlego		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2018 07:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[Deleted by DTW - I love how you judge me by telling me not to judge, very funny don&#039;t you think? Read: &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/09/11/christians-judge-righteously/&quot;&gt;As Christians We Must Judge Righteously&lt;/a&gt; and then you said I cause division and this is unbiblical? Really? Well, Jesus Christ said: 

Luke 12:50-53 (KJV)
50 But I have a baptism to be baptized with; and how am I straitened till it be accomplished! 51 &lt;strong&gt;Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:&lt;/strong&gt; 52 For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three. 53 The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. 

And the Apostle Paul said regarding division:

1Cor 11:18-19 (KJV)
18 For first of all, when ye come together in the church, &lt;strong&gt;I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it. 19 For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you&lt;/strong&gt;.  

I expose heresy, in order that there be division; error must be exposed, error separated from the truth so that true Christians may know who the FALSE Christians are.  Rhema Church and it&#039;s followers are FALSE.]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[Deleted by DTW &#8211; I love how you judge me by telling me not to judge, very funny don&#8217;t you think? Read: <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/09/11/christians-judge-righteously/" >As Christians We Must Judge Righteously</a> and then you said I cause division and this is unbiblical? Really? Well, Jesus Christ said: </p>
<p>Luke 12:50-53 (KJV)<br />
50 But I have a baptism to be baptized with; and how am I straitened till it be accomplished! 51 <strong>Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:</strong> 52 For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three. 53 The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. </p>
<p>And the Apostle Paul said regarding division:</p>
<p>1Cor 11:18-19 (KJV)<br />
18 For first of all, when ye come together in the church, <strong>I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it. 19 For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you</strong>.  </p>
<p>I expose heresy, in order that there be division; error must be exposed, error separated from the truth so that true Christians may know who the FALSE Christians are.  Rhema Church and it&#8217;s followers are FALSE.]</p>
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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
		<link>https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2017/09/21/rhema-bible-church-curses/#comment-460385</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deborah (Discerning the World)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2017 13:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2017/09/21/rhema-bible-church-curses/#comment-460367&quot;&gt;Mark&lt;/a&gt;.

Dear Mark

I have no doubt that Rhema Bible Church (Hagan and all his gang) are Roman Catholic trained.

Howeverrrrrr, would you mind explaining to me how breaking bread and drinking wine in &lt;strong&gt;remembrance&lt;/strong&gt; of Jesus Christ&#039;s sacrifice on the cross is remotely similar to the &lt;strong&gt;Roman Catholic holy communion of Transubstantiation?&lt;/strong&gt; :smile:

&lt;ol&gt;
The Apostle Paul said:

1 Corinthians 11:23-26  23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread: 24 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. 25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, &lt;strong&gt;in remembrance of me&lt;/strong&gt;. 26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord&#039;s death &lt;strong&gt;till he come&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;/ol&gt;



&lt;blockquote&gt;Transubstantiation (in Latin, transsubstantiatio, in Greek μετουσίωσις metousiosis) is, according to the teachings of the Catholic Church, the change of substance by which the bread and wine offered in the sacrifice of the sacrament of the Eucharist during the Mass, become, in reality, the body and blood of Jesus.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transubstantiation&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Genuine Christianity does not in any way blaspheme and say that they are actually cannibalizing Jesus&#039;s body (bread) and drinking His actual blood (wine) where in Catholicism the Eucharist Christ (the wafer) then &lt;strong&gt;rises &lt;/strong&gt;to becomes Mithra the &lt;strong&gt;sun god&lt;/strong&gt; in the &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monstrance&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Monstrance&lt;/a&gt;.  And each mass is the sacrifice of Jesus Christ over and over and over again.  That is why their &#039;Jesus Christ&#039; is permanently on the cross, He was never buried and never rose.  He is continuously nailed to the cross over and over at each and every mass that takes place across the world on a daily basis.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2017/09/21/rhema-bible-church-curses/#comment-460367" >Mark</a>.</p>
<p>Dear Mark</p>
<p>I have no doubt that Rhema Bible Church (Hagan and all his gang) are Roman Catholic trained.</p>
<p>Howeverrrrrr, would you mind explaining to me how breaking bread and drinking wine in <strong>remembrance</strong> of Jesus Christ&#8217;s sacrifice on the cross is remotely similar to the <strong>Roman Catholic holy communion of Transubstantiation?</strong> 🙂</p>
<ol>
The Apostle Paul said:</p>
<p>1 Corinthians 11:23-26  23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread: 24 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. 25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, <strong>in remembrance of me</strong>. 26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord&#8217;s death <strong>till he come</strong>.</ol>
<blockquote><p>Transubstantiation (in Latin, transsubstantiatio, in Greek μετουσίωσις metousiosis) is, according to the teachings of the Catholic Church, the change of substance by which the bread and wine offered in the sacrifice of the sacrament of the Eucharist during the Mass, become, in reality, the body and blood of Jesus.  <a target="_blank" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transubstantiation"  rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transubstantiation</a></p></blockquote>
<p>Genuine Christianity does not in any way blaspheme and say that they are actually cannibalizing Jesus&#8217;s body (bread) and drinking His actual blood (wine) where in Catholicism the Eucharist Christ (the wafer) then <strong>rises </strong>to becomes Mithra the <strong>sun god</strong> in the <a target="_blank" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monstrance"  rel="nofollow">Monstrance</a>.  And each mass is the sacrifice of Jesus Christ over and over and over again.  That is why their &#8216;Jesus Christ&#8217; is permanently on the cross, He was never buried and never rose.  He is continuously nailed to the cross over and over at each and every mass that takes place across the world on a daily basis.</p>
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		By: Mark		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2017 01:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Is Rhema Bible Church a Jesuit trained institution? I&#039;d say yes to that since they hold &quot;Communion&quot;. Heretical Roman Papal doctrine!
&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.rhemabiblechurch.com/im-new/#believe&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;

Flee from this... Read your Bible (hopefully it&#039;s not derived from the Westcott &#038; Hort interpretation of the Papally accepted Greek &#039;manuscripts&#039;).&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Rhema Bible Church a Jesuit trained institution? I&#8217;d say yes to that since they hold &#8220;Communion&#8221;. Heretical Roman Papal doctrine!<br />
<a href="https://www.rhemabiblechurch.com/im-new/#believe" rel="nofollow"></p>
<p>Flee from this&#8230; Read your Bible (hopefully it&#8217;s not derived from the Westcott &amp; Hort interpretation of the Papally accepted Greek &#8216;manuscripts&#8217;).</a></p>
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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deborah (Discerning the World)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2017 15:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2017/09/21/rhema-bible-church-curses/#comment-459804&quot;&gt;Claudia&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks Claudia for your comment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2017/09/21/rhema-bible-church-curses/#comment-459804" >Claudia</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks Claudia for your comment.</p>
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		By: Claudia		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2017 23:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh my. Sneaky and twisted indeed. Sounds just like Satan.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my. Sneaky and twisted indeed. Sounds just like Satan.</p>
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