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		By: Elmer G. White		</title>
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&lt;blockquote&gt;Tom (Discerning the World)  30 Dec, 2018 at 3:10 pm

It is SDA sin to neglect dealing (instant in season, right?) with your objections to their demonic teachings. Therefore they are proven to be total commandment breakers, total liars, filthy adulterers, idolators, murderers, total sabbath breakers! James 2:10 tells us all about their law keeping claims! SDA&#039;s are incapable of keeping anything holy! Such deceived pretenders.

Just because they dress like you, own computers, and speak proper English doesn&#039;t mean they are anything but hypocritical, proud, deceived reprobates. Now do you believe in total spiritual depravity? (Jesus taught that the flesh counts for nothing.)

&quot;Are you really going to allow a false prophet called Ellen G White and her church lead you straight to hell?&quot; -- Tom&lt;/blockquote&gt;



Jesus&#039; answer to this question is: &quot;without Me you can do nothing&quot;. He gives life to whom He pleases, until then, if ever, they (SDA&#039;s) are abjectly helpless, powerless to do anything about their rotten adventist condition. I have seen SDA&#039;s leave adventism and dive into Catholicism, atheism, Eastern Orthodox, and Mormonism. Dwight Nelson in Michigan (SDA famous preacher, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YknF_VvHo3Y) is convinced that he, his SDA flock, Ellen White, and Islam all worship the same Allah god. He might be right! &quot;Without Me you can do nothing (no good works)&quot; -- so true!

Rare SDA&#039;s who have been Gifted Life will, without fail, shed their sinful Adventist idolatry, rejecting the false she-prophet of Adventism. Born again&#039;s will know how to cling to True Jesus&#039; teachings, rejecting the rotten 1844-based false-christ, unscriptural Ellen White imaginings, antichrist teachings, and doctrines of demons of the depraved SDA system.

Adventism is 100% sin.
Adventism is profane.
Adventism creates lies.
Adventism is from the pit,
Adventists are religious liars,
Adventism is spiritually criminal.
Adventism is Holy Spirit blasphemey.
Adventism is detestable to Holy, Perfect God.
Adventism is a conga line of religious pretenders,
Adventism REFUSES to abide in Jesus&#039; teachings.
Adventists &quot;win&quot; souls to a fake 1844-concocted &quot;jesus&quot; idol,
Adventism is systematized, unregenerate, depraved unbelief.

Once the 1844-Millerite rabble (soon to rename themselves SDA&#039;s: subterfuge) got past scriptural integrity, the rest of their rebellion to Jesus was easy, feeding yet more disobedience to Jesus into their theological loop (wrong side of Luke 6:46-49). SDA&#039;s are bringing a water pistol to a gun fight. They lied in 1844 (Romans 3:4) and they&#039;ll lie to you now, serving their fathers agenda.

Please forgive me if it seems I am undecided what scripture has to say about such hypocritical tares. I&#039;ll try to firm up my beliefs.

Just the spiritual janitor taking the corrupt, festering trash called Adventism to the curb.]]></description>
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<blockquote><p>Tom (Discerning the World)  30 Dec, 2018 at 3:10 pm</p>
<p>It is SDA sin to neglect dealing (instant in season, right?) with your objections to their demonic teachings. Therefore they are proven to be total commandment breakers, total liars, filthy adulterers, idolators, murderers, total sabbath breakers! James 2:10 tells us all about their law keeping claims! SDA&#8217;s are incapable of keeping anything holy! Such deceived pretenders.</p>
<p>Just because they dress like you, own computers, and speak proper English doesn&#8217;t mean they are anything but hypocritical, proud, deceived reprobates. Now do you believe in total spiritual depravity? (Jesus taught that the flesh counts for nothing.)</p>
<p>&#8220;Are you really going to allow a false prophet called Ellen G White and her church lead you straight to hell?&#8221; &#8212; Tom</p></blockquote>
<p>Jesus&#8217; answer to this question is: &#8220;without Me you can do nothing&#8221;. He gives life to whom He pleases, until then, if ever, they (SDA&#8217;s) are abjectly helpless, powerless to do anything about their rotten adventist condition. I have seen SDA&#8217;s leave adventism and dive into Catholicism, atheism, Eastern Orthodox, and Mormonism. Dwight Nelson in Michigan (SDA famous preacher, <a target="_blank" href="https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YknF_VvHo3Y"  rel="nofollow ugc">https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YknF_VvHo3Y</a>) is convinced that he, his SDA flock, Ellen White, and Islam all worship the same Allah god. He might be right! &#8220;Without Me you can do nothing (no good works)&#8221; &#8212; so true!</p>
<p>Rare SDA&#8217;s who have been Gifted Life will, without fail, shed their sinful Adventist idolatry, rejecting the false she-prophet of Adventism. Born again&#8217;s will know how to cling to True Jesus&#8217; teachings, rejecting the rotten 1844-based false-christ, unscriptural Ellen White imaginings, antichrist teachings, and doctrines of demons of the depraved SDA system.</p>
<p>Adventism is 100% sin.<br />
Adventism is profane.<br />
Adventism creates lies.<br />
Adventism is from the pit,<br />
Adventists are religious liars,<br />
Adventism is spiritually criminal.<br />
Adventism is Holy Spirit blasphemey.<br />
Adventism is detestable to Holy, Perfect God.<br />
Adventism is a conga line of religious pretenders,<br />
Adventism REFUSES to abide in Jesus&#8217; teachings.<br />
Adventists &#8220;win&#8221; souls to a fake 1844-concocted &#8220;jesus&#8221; idol,<br />
Adventism is systematized, unregenerate, depraved unbelief.</p>
<p>Once the 1844-Millerite rabble (soon to rename themselves SDA&#8217;s: subterfuge) got past scriptural integrity, the rest of their rebellion to Jesus was easy, feeding yet more disobedience to Jesus into their theological loop (wrong side of Luke 6:46-49). SDA&#8217;s are bringing a water pistol to a gun fight. They lied in 1844 (Romans 3:4) and they&#8217;ll lie to you now, serving their fathers agenda.</p>
<p>Please forgive me if it seems I am undecided what scripture has to say about such hypocritical tares. I&#8217;ll try to firm up my beliefs.</p>
<p>Just the spiritual janitor taking the corrupt, festering trash called Adventism to the curb.</p>
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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
		<link>https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2017/08/11/sda-church-seeking-finding-new-havens-error-deceit/#comment-494387</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Oct 2019 18:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2017/08/11/sda-church-seeking-finding-new-havens-error-deceit/#comment-494382&quot;&gt;Elmer G. White&lt;/a&gt;.

Dear Elmer G. White ( :giggle: at the name)

Please send your exposes to discerningtheworld@gmail.com, will be happy to look at them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2017/08/11/sda-church-seeking-finding-new-havens-error-deceit/#comment-494382" >Elmer G. White</a>.</p>
<p>Dear Elmer G. White ( :giggle: at the name)</p>
<p>Please send your exposes to <a href="mailto:discerningtheworld@gmail.com">discerningtheworld@gmail.com</a>, will be happy to look at them.</p>
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		By: Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)		</title>
		<link>https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2017/08/11/sda-church-seeking-finding-new-havens-error-deceit/#comment-494384</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Oct 2019 17:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2017/08/11/sda-church-seeking-finding-new-havens-error-deceit/#comment-494382&quot;&gt;Elmer G. White&lt;/a&gt;.

Elmer. I know of many ex-SDA&#039;s who are saved. They left the SDA and is now warning others against their former church]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2017/08/11/sda-church-seeking-finding-new-havens-error-deceit/#comment-494382" >Elmer G. White</a>.</p>
<p>Elmer. I know of many ex-SDA&#8217;s who are saved. They left the SDA and is now warning others against their former church</p>
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		By: Elmer G. White		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Oct 2019 15:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lori said: &quot;Here’s a thought&quot; and &quot;this is just my own thoughts&quot;

Bible sez: Let every man be a liar and God be true, much? How do your lying thoughts make you a commandment keeper? (They don&#039;t!) Jesus&#039; command is to deny self, and you are sinning against that teaching. How does this disobedience make you a commandment keeper? (It doesn&#039;t!) James 2:10 tells us that all your ongoing sin makes you a TOTAL law breaker, so even your claims of keeping some day holy are actually the sin of bearing more false witness compounded by deceiving yourself and others. Jesus commands to not be deceived, but you boldly rebel against that command as well (that is because &quot;without Me you can do nothing&quot;). Liars keep nothing holy, not even their much ballyhoo&#039;d, venerated sabbath day! Breaking all the law means that you take Gods name in vain as well (assigning Him the name of Michael) and you let others handcraft a concocted god for you: the god that started an Investigative Judgement in 1844. This is the SDA sin of IDOLATRY. Jesus, truely God, taught His word would judge YOU on the last day, John 12:48. SDA&#039;s disobey Him on this point with their satanic Ellen-White-based theories. SDA&#039;s are utter failures at following Jesus&#039; commands.

Their &quot;faith&quot; without good works at Jesus&#039; commands, is dead faith, shipwrecked. SDA&#039;s worship a god called Michael, but in reality they have been tricked into worshipping Satan. True Christians discern this from their false Leviticus-16-scapegoat teaching. Their belief system is riddled with doctrines of demons.

SDA&#039;s are the among the most deceived, disobedient, people on the planet. They go around promoting a false she-prophet, Ellen White, in direct rebellion to Jesus command in Matthew 7:15-23. Notice no forgiveness is stressed in this passage. But He will tell SDA&#039;s to get away from Him, true prophecy there!  Their rebellion to Jesus commands and utter stubborness to repent are accounted to them as witch-craft and idolatry -- hardly the model of 10 commandment keepers they claim they are! SDA&#039;s are repugnant to the gospel, they teach a false christ (really ANTICHRIST), Galations 1 informs us twice to let them be cursed. So be it.

True Christians will soon recognize SDA&#039;ism is 100% sin and is a vehicle for blaspheming Holy Spirit, ultimately. Their will be no SDA&#039;s in heaven. They will be the ones gnashing their teeth in outer darkness for eternity.

True Christians do not jeopardize their salvation by scripturally recognizing SDA&#039;s and Ellen White as ministers of Satan, 2 Corinthians 11:4,13-15.

(I have a few more expose&#039;s completed if you&#039;d care to feature them)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lori said: &#8220;Here’s a thought&#8221; and &#8220;this is just my own thoughts&#8221;</p>
<p>Bible sez: Let every man be a liar and God be true, much? How do your lying thoughts make you a commandment keeper? (They don&#8217;t!) Jesus&#8217; command is to deny self, and you are sinning against that teaching. How does this disobedience make you a commandment keeper? (It doesn&#8217;t!) James 2:10 tells us that all your ongoing sin makes you a TOTAL law breaker, so even your claims of keeping some day holy are actually the sin of bearing more false witness compounded by deceiving yourself and others. Jesus commands to not be deceived, but you boldly rebel against that command as well (that is because &#8220;without Me you can do nothing&#8221;). Liars keep nothing holy, not even their much ballyhoo&#8217;d, venerated sabbath day! Breaking all the law means that you take Gods name in vain as well (assigning Him the name of Michael) and you let others handcraft a concocted god for you: the god that started an Investigative Judgement in 1844. This is the SDA sin of IDOLATRY. Jesus, truely God, taught His word would judge YOU on the last day, John 12:48. SDA&#8217;s disobey Him on this point with their satanic Ellen-White-based theories. SDA&#8217;s are utter failures at following Jesus&#8217; commands.</p>
<p>Their &#8220;faith&#8221; without good works at Jesus&#8217; commands, is dead faith, shipwrecked. SDA&#8217;s worship a god called Michael, but in reality they have been tricked into worshipping Satan. True Christians discern this from their false Leviticus-16-scapegoat teaching. Their belief system is riddled with doctrines of demons.</p>
<p>SDA&#8217;s are the among the most deceived, disobedient, people on the planet. They go around promoting a false she-prophet, Ellen White, in direct rebellion to Jesus command in Matthew 7:15-23. Notice no forgiveness is stressed in this passage. But He will tell SDA&#8217;s to get away from Him, true prophecy there!  Their rebellion to Jesus commands and utter stubborness to repent are accounted to them as witch-craft and idolatry &#8212; hardly the model of 10 commandment keepers they claim they are! SDA&#8217;s are repugnant to the gospel, they teach a false christ (really ANTICHRIST), Galations 1 informs us twice to let them be cursed. So be it.</p>
<p>True Christians will soon recognize SDA&#8217;ism is 100% sin and is a vehicle for blaspheming Holy Spirit, ultimately. Their will be no SDA&#8217;s in heaven. They will be the ones gnashing their teeth in outer darkness for eternity.</p>
<p>True Christians do not jeopardize their salvation by scripturally recognizing SDA&#8217;s and Ellen White as ministers of Satan, 2 Corinthians 11:4,13-15.</p>
<p>(I have a few more expose&#8217;s completed if you&#8217;d care to feature them)</p>
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		By: Robbie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robbie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jun 2019 18:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Another SDA pastor says Allah is god
https://youtu.be/XP3YrD3I9TA]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another SDA pastor says Allah is god<br />
<a target="_blank" href="https://youtu.be/XP3YrD3I9TA"  rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtu.be/XP3YrD3I9TA</a></p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jun 2019 18:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Another SDA misinterpretation?

https://youtu.be/6b-6PS8J528

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another SDA misinterpretation?</p>
<p><a target="_blank" href="https://youtu.be/6b-6PS8J528"  rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtu.be/6b-6PS8J528</a></p>
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		By: Seth E Hall		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Seth E Hall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Mar 2019 09:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2018 13:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2017/08/11/sda-church-seeking-finding-new-havens-error-deceit/#comment-488427&quot;&gt;Berris-Dale Joseph&lt;/a&gt;.

Berris-Dale Joseph.

Elton did the right thing to leave the SDA Church, and so should you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2017/08/11/sda-church-seeking-finding-new-havens-error-deceit/#comment-488427" >Berris-Dale Joseph</a>.</p>
<p>Berris-Dale Joseph.</p>
<p>Elton did the right thing to leave the SDA Church, and so should you.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom (Discerning the World)]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2017/08/11/sda-church-seeking-finding-new-havens-error-deceit/#comment-488420&quot;&gt;Berris-Dale Joseph&lt;/a&gt;.

Berris-Dale Joseph

Do you really believe these heresies proclaimed by Ellen G White and her followers?
A statement appears in the official church paper, The Review and Herald, clearly affirming the high position in which Ellen White is held in the Adventist church.

&quot;Seventh-day Adventists hold that Ellen G. White performed the work of a true prophet during the seventy years of her public ministry. As Samuel was a prophet, as Jeremiah was a prophet, as John the Baptist, so we believe that Mrs. White was a prophet to the church of Christ today&quot;. (The Review &amp; Herald. October 4, 1928.)

Old Testament prophets were stoned to death if they only had one (a single) prophecy incorrect.

She predicted that &quot;Old Jerusalem never will be built up&quot;. In Early Writings, p. 75, she said, &quot;I was pointed to some who are in the great error of believing that it is their duty to go to Old Jerusalem and think they have a work to do there before the Lord comes .... I saw that Satan had greatly deceived some in this thing,... I also saw that Old Jerusalem never would be built up; and that Satan was doing his utmost to lead the minds of the children of the Lord into these things now, in the gathering time&quot;.

Her prophecy never came true. Since the nation of Israel&#039;s rebirth in 1948, &quot;old Jerusalem&quot; has been greatly built up.

She believed and predicted that she would be among &quot;the living saints&quot; when Jesus returned.

&quot;Soon our eyes were drawn to the east, for a small black cloud had appeared, about half as large as a man&#039;s hand, which we all knew was the sign of the Son of man....Then there was a mighty earthquake. The graves opened, and the dead came up clothed with immortality. The 144,000 shouted, &quot;Alleluia!&quot; as they recognized their friends who had been torn from them by death, and in the same moment we were changed and caught up together with them to meet the Lord in the air&quot;. Early Writings, p. 15-16

She died at her home near St. Helena, California on July 16th, 1915. Eight days later she was buried beside her husband, James White, in Oak Hill Cemetery, in Battle Creek, Michigan.

In 1862 she predicted that &quot;when England does declare war [against the North, during the Civil War], all nations will have an interest of their own to serve, and there will be general war, general confusion.&quot; The result will be that &quot;this nation [the United States] will...be humbled into the dust&quot;. Testimonies for The Church, vol. 1, p. 259.

History clearly proves that England did not &quot;declare war&quot; against the United States during the Civil War, and the United States was not &quot;humbled into the dust.&quot;

In the 1850s she predicted that the Lord would return in a few months.

&quot;In a view given June 27, 1850, my accompanying angel said, ‘Time is almost finished’....Said the angel, ‘Get ready, get ready, get ready...’ I saw that there was a great work to do for them and but little time in which to do it....Then I saw that the seven last plagues were soon to be poured out upon those who have no shelter...&quot; Early Writings, p. 64

She continues to explain her vision and makes a startling prediction that only a few months are left before the Lord will return. &quot;But now time is almost finished, and what we have been years learning, they [&quot;they who of late have embraced the truth&quot;] will have to learn in a few months. They will also have much to unlearn and much to learn again&quot;. Early Writings, p. 67.

She allegedly saw Enoch on Jupiter and Saturn.

&quot;The Lord has given me a view of other worlds, Wings were given me, and an angel attended me from the city to a place that was bright and glorious. The grass of the place was living green, and the birds there warbled a sweet song. The inhabitants of the place were of all sizes; they were noble, majestic, and lovely....I asked one of them why they were so much more lovely than those on the earth....Then I was taken to a world which had seven moons. There I saw good old Enoch, who had been translated&quot;. Early Writings, pp. 39-40

Ellen&#039;s husband, James White verified her vision. He wrote, &quot;At our conference in Topsham, Maine, last Nov., Ellen had a vision of the handy works of God. She was guided to the planets Jupiter, Saturn, and I think one more. After she came out of vision, she could give a clear description of their Moons, etc.. It is well known, that she knew nothing of astronomy, and could not answer one question in relation to the planets, before she had this vision&quot;. A Word to the Little Flock&quot;, p. 22

Excellent satellite pictures of Jupiter and Saturn have not revealed any life forms.

&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Are you really going to allow a false prophet called Ellen G White and her church lead you straight to hell?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in my name that I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die.’ And if you say in your heart, ‘How may we know the word that the LORD has not spoken?’— when a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the word does not come to pass or come true, that is a word that the LORD has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously. You need not be afraid of him. (Deuteronomy 18:20-22)
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<p>Berris-Dale Joseph</p>
<p>Do you really believe these heresies proclaimed by Ellen G White and her followers?<br />
A statement appears in the official church paper, The Review and Herald, clearly affirming the high position in which Ellen White is held in the Adventist church.</p>
<p>&#8220;Seventh-day Adventists hold that Ellen G. White performed the work of a true prophet during the seventy years of her public ministry. As Samuel was a prophet, as Jeremiah was a prophet, as John the Baptist, so we believe that Mrs. White was a prophet to the church of Christ today&#8221;. (The Review &#038; Herald. October 4, 1928.)</p>
<p>Old Testament prophets were stoned to death if they only had one (a single) prophecy incorrect.</p>
<p>She predicted that &#8220;Old Jerusalem never will be built up&#8221;. In Early Writings, p. 75, she said, &#8220;I was pointed to some who are in the great error of believing that it is their duty to go to Old Jerusalem and think they have a work to do there before the Lord comes &#8230;. I saw that Satan had greatly deceived some in this thing,&#8230; I also saw that Old Jerusalem never would be built up; and that Satan was doing his utmost to lead the minds of the children of the Lord into these things now, in the gathering time&#8221;.</p>
<p>Her prophecy never came true. Since the nation of Israel&#8217;s rebirth in 1948, &#8220;old Jerusalem&#8221; has been greatly built up.</p>
<p>She believed and predicted that she would be among &#8220;the living saints&#8221; when Jesus returned.</p>
<p>&#8220;Soon our eyes were drawn to the east, for a small black cloud had appeared, about half as large as a man&#8217;s hand, which we all knew was the sign of the Son of man&#8230;.Then there was a mighty earthquake. The graves opened, and the dead came up clothed with immortality. The 144,000 shouted, &#8220;Alleluia!&#8221; as they recognized their friends who had been torn from them by death, and in the same moment we were changed and caught up together with them to meet the Lord in the air&#8221;. Early Writings, p. 15-16</p>
<p>She died at her home near St. Helena, California on July 16th, 1915. Eight days later she was buried beside her husband, James White, in Oak Hill Cemetery, in Battle Creek, Michigan.</p>
<p>In 1862 she predicted that &#8220;when England does declare war [against the North, during the Civil War], all nations will have an interest of their own to serve, and there will be general war, general confusion.&#8221; The result will be that &#8220;this nation [the United States] will&#8230;be humbled into the dust&#8221;. Testimonies for The Church, vol. 1, p. 259.</p>
<p>History clearly proves that England did not &#8220;declare war&#8221; against the United States during the Civil War, and the United States was not &#8220;humbled into the dust.&#8221;</p>
<p>In the 1850s she predicted that the Lord would return in a few months.</p>
<p>&#8220;In a view given June 27, 1850, my accompanying angel said, ‘Time is almost finished’&#8230;.Said the angel, ‘Get ready, get ready, get ready&#8230;’ I saw that there was a great work to do for them and but little time in which to do it&#8230;.Then I saw that the seven last plagues were soon to be poured out upon those who have no shelter&#8230;&#8221; Early Writings, p. 64</p>
<p>She continues to explain her vision and makes a startling prediction that only a few months are left before the Lord will return. &#8220;But now time is almost finished, and what we have been years learning, they [&#8220;they who of late have embraced the truth&#8221;] will have to learn in a few months. They will also have much to unlearn and much to learn again&#8221;. Early Writings, p. 67.</p>
<p>She allegedly saw Enoch on Jupiter and Saturn.</p>
<p>&#8220;The Lord has given me a view of other worlds, Wings were given me, and an angel attended me from the city to a place that was bright and glorious. The grass of the place was living green, and the birds there warbled a sweet song. The inhabitants of the place were of all sizes; they were noble, majestic, and lovely&#8230;.I asked one of them why they were so much more lovely than those on the earth&#8230;.Then I was taken to a world which had seven moons. There I saw good old Enoch, who had been translated&#8221;. Early Writings, pp. 39-40</p>
<p>Ellen&#8217;s husband, James White verified her vision. He wrote, &#8220;At our conference in Topsham, Maine, last Nov., Ellen had a vision of the handy works of God. She was guided to the planets Jupiter, Saturn, and I think one more. After she came out of vision, she could give a clear description of their Moons, etc.. It is well known, that she knew nothing of astronomy, and could not answer one question in relation to the planets, before she had this vision&#8221;. A Word to the Little Flock&#8221;, p. 22</p>
<p>Excellent satellite pictures of Jupiter and Saturn have not revealed any life forms.</p>
<p><em><strong>Are you really going to allow a false prophet called Ellen G White and her church lead you straight to hell?</strong></em></p>
<p>But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in my name that I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die.’ And if you say in your heart, ‘How may we know the word that the LORD has not spoken?’— when a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the word does not come to pass or come true, that is a word that the LORD has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously. You need not be afraid of him. (Deuteronomy 18:20-22)</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[Elton: The blessed Christ Jesus does not contradict Himself. Speaking of diet, God already told you, by having told the Jews, how to eat and how not yo eat in the Old Testament and in Acts 10 of the New Testsment. Now, speaking of spiritual things Jesus is referring to spiritual defilement, that the foods we are supposed to eat cannot defile the spiritual realm, nor can eating with unwashed hands defile the spiritual heart. Now having said that,  you will agree that Jesus would not tell someone to drink poison, right? Where does poison in this sense come from? Outside the body. Can it defile the body if drunk? Yes it can. So Jesus does not mean that nothing eaten can make us sick. If somebody is allergic to a certain food would it not hurt the person if ingested? Yes, it would. Furthermore, God instructed the Israelites not to eat certain meats nor to eat the blood of animals that are permissible to eat. Would Jesus go against this fundamental teaching later on by saying nothing outside can defile the person, so est snything you want? He would not. You and I need to understand beyond mere words, and take into consideration the contexts of the Master&#039;s arguments and teachings. If you would subscribe properly to the guidance of the Holy Spirit, whose job it is to work with you to give you understanding of the Word, you would do better. Dietarily speaking, God means what He said, still, when He instructed His people not to eat pork, eel, shrimp, lobster, shellfish, congue, etc. In other words only what has fins and scales are designated as fit for human consumption in the sea. The other animals are good, but they are not good to eat. They are good at their assigned job, to clean up the ocean floor and keep it clean. Only animals on the land that chew their cud and have cloven feet are designated as clean for food. The specific designations for animals that fly are also given in the same place, Biblically.

Thus, three clear specificstions to bear in mind still, in the consumption of animals on the land, as it is a binding dietary mandate for all mankind: 1) the animal that may be eaten as food must chew its cud 2) it must have cloven shaped feet and 3) its blood should be drained out and not at all be consumed. For says the Lord of life, &quot;The life of the animal is in its blood.&quot;

Elton, you did not need to leave the SDA church. You might have thought you heard Jesus Christ telling you to leave His church, but you did not hear Him tell you that. That is for sure.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elton: The blessed Christ Jesus does not contradict Himself. Speaking of diet, God already told you, by having told the Jews, how to eat and how not yo eat in the Old Testament and in Acts 10 of the New Testsment. Now, speaking of spiritual things Jesus is referring to spiritual defilement, that the foods we are supposed to eat cannot defile the spiritual realm, nor can eating with unwashed hands defile the spiritual heart. Now having said that,  you will agree that Jesus would not tell someone to drink poison, right? Where does poison in this sense come from? Outside the body. Can it defile the body if drunk? Yes it can. So Jesus does not mean that nothing eaten can make us sick. If somebody is allergic to a certain food would it not hurt the person if ingested? Yes, it would. Furthermore, God instructed the Israelites not to eat certain meats nor to eat the blood of animals that are permissible to eat. Would Jesus go against this fundamental teaching later on by saying nothing outside can defile the person, so est snything you want? He would not. You and I need to understand beyond mere words, and take into consideration the contexts of the Master&#8217;s arguments and teachings. If you would subscribe properly to the guidance of the Holy Spirit, whose job it is to work with you to give you understanding of the Word, you would do better. Dietarily speaking, God means what He said, still, when He instructed His people not to eat pork, eel, shrimp, lobster, shellfish, congue, etc. In other words only what has fins and scales are designated as fit for human consumption in the sea. The other animals are good, but they are not good to eat. They are good at their assigned job, to clean up the ocean floor and keep it clean. Only animals on the land that chew their cud and have cloven feet are designated as clean for food. The specific designations for animals that fly are also given in the same place, Biblically.</p>
<p>Thus, three clear specificstions to bear in mind still, in the consumption of animals on the land, as it is a binding dietary mandate for all mankind: 1) the animal that may be eaten as food must chew its cud 2) it must have cloven shaped feet and 3) its blood should be drained out and not at all be consumed. For says the Lord of life, &#8220;The life of the animal is in its blood.&#8221;</p>
<p>Elton, you did not need to leave the SDA church. You might have thought you heard Jesus Christ telling you to leave His church, but you did not hear Him tell you that. That is for sure.</p>
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