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		By: Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Aug 2017 05:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2016/12/22/discipline/#comment-458416&quot;&gt;Sheepdog&lt;/a&gt;.

Sheepdog,

Thank you for your very insightful comment. It proves that our children are being brainwashed. Some of them are saved.

&lt;blockquote&gt;And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea. (Mar 9:42)&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2016/12/22/discipline/#comment-458416" >Sheepdog</a>.</p>
<p>Sheepdog,</p>
<p>Thank you for your very insightful comment. It proves that our children are being brainwashed. Some of them are saved.</p>
<blockquote><p>And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea. (Mar 9:42)</p></blockquote>
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		By: Sheepdog		</title>
		<link>https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2016/12/22/discipline/#comment-458416</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Aug 2017 00:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi again,

By the way, I work in the school setting and am seeing something interesting across the landscape.
Interesting, meaning bad.  They are propping up all these idols of the new world order and one world religion.
Characters like Ghandi, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., Nelson Mandela, John Lennon, Malala, Oprah, and a host of other
types with a false gospel of false peace and false solutions.  They seem to be pushing that activist, socialist utopia, world peace, secular humanism, yoga, divinity, pantheism, environmentalism, oneness, false tolerance, unity, and all the false humanism and utopia solutions that will come under antichrist.  They are indoctrinating them into that mindset.  They have yoga in some schools now and are pushing curriculum where they are supposed to imagine how they can save the world and that sort of thing.  Well, Christians know that we can&#039;t save the world.  Only Jesus will do that at His return, and we know He is our only hope.  We can&#039;t pretend to have another solution, or that someone other than the Lord does.  The believers brainwashed by the apostasy have already been inducted into the heresy of dominionism and preterism, so they are well groomed to embrace antichrist&#039;s kingdom, thinking it is them bringing in the kingdom, the height of arrogance because we can&#039;t save ourselves, individual soul or the whole world being restored, only Jesus can and will do that.  When we turn to Him, He saves us, and He will return to set up His kingdom for those who are His.

Anyway, just letting anyone know who has kids in public school nowadays.
( :]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi again,</p>
<p>By the way, I work in the school setting and am seeing something interesting across the landscape.<br />
Interesting, meaning bad.  They are propping up all these idols of the new world order and one world religion.<br />
Characters like Ghandi, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., Nelson Mandela, John Lennon, Malala, Oprah, and a host of other<br />
types with a false gospel of false peace and false solutions.  They seem to be pushing that activist, socialist utopia, world peace, secular humanism, yoga, divinity, pantheism, environmentalism, oneness, false tolerance, unity, and all the false humanism and utopia solutions that will come under antichrist.  They are indoctrinating them into that mindset.  They have yoga in some schools now and are pushing curriculum where they are supposed to imagine how they can save the world and that sort of thing.  Well, Christians know that we can&#8217;t save the world.  Only Jesus will do that at His return, and we know He is our only hope.  We can&#8217;t pretend to have another solution, or that someone other than the Lord does.  The believers brainwashed by the apostasy have already been inducted into the heresy of dominionism and preterism, so they are well groomed to embrace antichrist&#8217;s kingdom, thinking it is them bringing in the kingdom, the height of arrogance because we can&#8217;t save ourselves, individual soul or the whole world being restored, only Jesus can and will do that.  When we turn to Him, He saves us, and He will return to set up His kingdom for those who are His.</p>
<p>Anyway, just letting anyone know who has kids in public school nowadays.<br />
( :</p>
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		By: SheepDog		</title>
		<link>https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2016/12/22/discipline/#comment-453627</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jan 2017 06:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I couldn&#039;t agree more!  I work in school and see this firsthand.  I don&#039;t have kids so I am spared that end of it.  I know the devil is undermining the upbringing and discipline of kids in all areas, spurring them on to rebellion, you see it everywhere from the shows they watch, the music they hear, the psychology of the day, the laws, etc.  I live in the US and it is bad everywhere nowadays.  Interesting to hear how it is over there too.  

They made it &#039;illegal&#039; to spank your own kid, the biblical discipline that God calls for so that we don&#039;t spoil the child (spare the rod, spoil the child).  

In schools too they outlawed corporal punishment, and it&#039;s been hell on teachers ever since.  Most teachers leave as a result after they see the reality they are in for.  And the districts like it that way since teachers don&#039;t move up on the payscale if there is high turnover.  I found this all out the hard way too.  There is no support from administration.  You are just locked in a cage with the animals, if you want to keep your paycheck you just &#039;deal with it&#039; yourself.

Yes, it is psychological, emotional and verbal abuse and torture (and it can get physical), you are subject to bullying, threats, insults of every sort, harrassment, profanity, accusations, slander and gossip  and cyber-bullying.  If you dare even look their way they accuse you of &#039;laying a hand on them,&#039; and some kind of physical abuse (which would actually be the discipline they would desperately need).   They have the laws down pat and threaten to use them against you.  They expect lady teachers to &#039;stop fights&#039; between teenage males larger than they are, but if you stop one from hurting another by physically intervening, you are &#039;physically abusing and harming&#039; them!  The poor spoiled bratty little darlings!  

To top of all of that, the teacher is expected to be a miracle worker and like that fairytale, produce gold from the mire!  They are expected to get the scores on tests up to a certain level, but the kids don&#039;t want to learn and no one can make them try or stop the disruptive behavior because there is no discipline at all to be administered in the school system!  And even for those who want to learn, they make the material so hard with common core (purposefully confusing them), that even those blessed with a brain are frustrated and the rest are totally in revolt.  Add to that the endless meetings or &#039;professional development,&#039; the other destabilization tactics to demoralize teachers, the lack of gratitude and appreciation for teachers, and the attitude that &#039;it&#039;s all the teacher&#039;s fault&#039; when something goes wrong and yeah, it&#039;s a hellhole!  They have these meetings because someone dared accuse Johnny of wrongdoing and it&#039;s basically the teacher against the world; principal and admin take parents side along with their Johnny who can do no wrong while he gets away with murder.  It&#039;s all about pleasing the &#039;customer&#039; now, the students and the parents, at the expense of the teachers.  Teachers have become target practice basically.  Yes, the devil is behind that one too.  Districts get money per student attendance and it has become somewhat of a district competition.  Then there are the pop psychology junk books out there to add to it all.  I have the privilege of traveling around classrooms after hours and poke around.  I saw in the chicken soup for the teacher&#039;s soul book a story that was nuts (just more indoctrination and propaganda) where there was a teacher who disciplined a male student for bullying another shy female student who had been brought to tears.  Then when alone with the male bully, the bully began to cry too (a good thing here, it shows change and remorse) and because of this, the wimpy (male) teacher apologizes to the bully for disciplining him because he was crying!  Have they all lost their minds?!  It was okay for the victim to cry?  But God forbid the bully for his bad deeds?  He had been &#039;shamed&#039; for it, well GOOD!  He needs to be shamed for it because he needs to be ashamed for it!  But this shows how backwards their psychological solutions are and why society is an utter and total mess!  They claim man is basically good (now even divine according to false religion) when man is sinful in nature.  They stroke his ego and shun discipline and he is reared into a beast.  That is why society is so wicked now.  Nothing but rude, defiant, sassy, disrespectful, selfish, violent, arrogant, narcissistic spiteful, malicious, sadistical, hateful, obstinate, contemptuous brats... and those are just the students in the classrooms, good luck in traffic!

Great post!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more!  I work in school and see this firsthand.  I don&#8217;t have kids so I am spared that end of it.  I know the devil is undermining the upbringing and discipline of kids in all areas, spurring them on to rebellion, you see it everywhere from the shows they watch, the music they hear, the psychology of the day, the laws, etc.  I live in the US and it is bad everywhere nowadays.  Interesting to hear how it is over there too.  </p>
<p>They made it &#8216;illegal&#8217; to spank your own kid, the biblical discipline that God calls for so that we don&#8217;t spoil the child (spare the rod, spoil the child).  </p>
<p>In schools too they outlawed corporal punishment, and it&#8217;s been hell on teachers ever since.  Most teachers leave as a result after they see the reality they are in for.  And the districts like it that way since teachers don&#8217;t move up on the payscale if there is high turnover.  I found this all out the hard way too.  There is no support from administration.  You are just locked in a cage with the animals, if you want to keep your paycheck you just &#8216;deal with it&#8217; yourself.</p>
<p>Yes, it is psychological, emotional and verbal abuse and torture (and it can get physical), you are subject to bullying, threats, insults of every sort, harrassment, profanity, accusations, slander and gossip  and cyber-bullying.  If you dare even look their way they accuse you of &#8216;laying a hand on them,&#8217; and some kind of physical abuse (which would actually be the discipline they would desperately need).   They have the laws down pat and threaten to use them against you.  They expect lady teachers to &#8216;stop fights&#8217; between teenage males larger than they are, but if you stop one from hurting another by physically intervening, you are &#8216;physically abusing and harming&#8217; them!  The poor spoiled bratty little darlings!  </p>
<p>To top of all of that, the teacher is expected to be a miracle worker and like that fairytale, produce gold from the mire!  They are expected to get the scores on tests up to a certain level, but the kids don&#8217;t want to learn and no one can make them try or stop the disruptive behavior because there is no discipline at all to be administered in the school system!  And even for those who want to learn, they make the material so hard with common core (purposefully confusing them), that even those blessed with a brain are frustrated and the rest are totally in revolt.  Add to that the endless meetings or &#8216;professional development,&#8217; the other destabilization tactics to demoralize teachers, the lack of gratitude and appreciation for teachers, and the attitude that &#8216;it&#8217;s all the teacher&#8217;s fault&#8217; when something goes wrong and yeah, it&#8217;s a hellhole!  They have these meetings because someone dared accuse Johnny of wrongdoing and it&#8217;s basically the teacher against the world; principal and admin take parents side along with their Johnny who can do no wrong while he gets away with murder.  It&#8217;s all about pleasing the &#8216;customer&#8217; now, the students and the parents, at the expense of the teachers.  Teachers have become target practice basically.  Yes, the devil is behind that one too.  Districts get money per student attendance and it has become somewhat of a district competition.  Then there are the pop psychology junk books out there to add to it all.  I have the privilege of traveling around classrooms after hours and poke around.  I saw in the chicken soup for the teacher&#8217;s soul book a story that was nuts (just more indoctrination and propaganda) where there was a teacher who disciplined a male student for bullying another shy female student who had been brought to tears.  Then when alone with the male bully, the bully began to cry too (a good thing here, it shows change and remorse) and because of this, the wimpy (male) teacher apologizes to the bully for disciplining him because he was crying!  Have they all lost their minds?!  It was okay for the victim to cry?  But God forbid the bully for his bad deeds?  He had been &#8216;shamed&#8217; for it, well GOOD!  He needs to be shamed for it because he needs to be ashamed for it!  But this shows how backwards their psychological solutions are and why society is an utter and total mess!  They claim man is basically good (now even divine according to false religion) when man is sinful in nature.  They stroke his ego and shun discipline and he is reared into a beast.  That is why society is so wicked now.  Nothing but rude, defiant, sassy, disrespectful, selfish, violent, arrogant, narcissistic spiteful, malicious, sadistical, hateful, obstinate, contemptuous brats&#8230; and those are just the students in the classrooms, good luck in traffic!</p>
<p>Great post!</p>
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