Dani

You said “We’re told to “watch” numerous times and revelations, dreams and visions occur as warnings to us”

Bible says to watch and pray, I don’t remmeber it saying what you have stated. What kind of revelations, dreams and visions have you been having?

You wrote:

1 Peter 4:6 “For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.”

Why were the antediluvian critters given the wonderful opportunity to hear the Gospel of salvation preached to them so that they may be saved (judged in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit)? If God is a God of perfect justice and righteousness, it follows that He should be doing the very same thing to this day. Is He still preaching the Gospel to the dead in Hades (hell)?

1 Peter 4:6 “For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.”

This has got absolutely nothing to do with 1 Peter 23:18-21. 1 Peter 4:6 is addressed to believers and not unbelievers who are already dead and buried, and in hell.

The very first two verses affirm this.

Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin; That he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh to the lusts of men, but to the will of God. (1 Pe 4:1-2)

There is no evidence whatsoever that some of the antediluvian sinners believed the Gospel and were saved. Your assumption that they were but suffered judgment in the flesh because they were not baptized into the ark is another gospel. Again, I urge you to repent in view of Galatians 1:8-9. You are playing with fire. No one has ever preached the Gospel to the dead so that they may be saved.

You wrote:

You wrongfully put words in my comments when you said, “In that every single one of them must have been saved.” ?? Where did you draw that wild false doctrine from? Didn’t come from me. Read the verse again.

If some were saved, as you say, despite them having been baptized, then all those who perished in the the flood must have been saved, because they too weren’t baptized, as you say. God is a just and righteous God. How do you know that those who were saved despite them not having been baptized, believed the Gospel? You are speculating and that’s dangerous.

Of course you do not know how many were allegedly saved who perished in the flood, I know, and a quoted to you some verses from Scripture to prove it. Yet you reject those verses. No wonder you cannot see a seven-year tribulation in the Bible. If you cannot see the obvious meaning of verses, how are you going to see anything else in the Bible.

Don’t apologize to me for wasting your time. I hate feigned humility. I really mean it. You have no intention of listening to the Word of God.

They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them. We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error. (1 Jn 4:5-6)

1 Peter 4:6 “For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.”

Is this the, “another gospel” you are referring too and “warning” me about? This isn’t some mythical “7 year Tribulation” verse that doesn’t exist. It’s the KJV Bible. The verse is there. 1 Peter 4:6.

You wrongfully put words in my comments when you said, “In that every single one of them must have been saved.” ?? Where did you draw that wild false doctrine from? Didn’t come from me. Read the verse again.

“that they MIGHT be judged……”. Noah, a preacher of righteousness PREACHED to these ungodly people. How many got Saved but we’re still judged according to the flesh? I haven’t a clue. But it was for THAT reason that they were preached unto. So that they could “live according to God in the spirit”.

My apologies for wasting your time. Thank you for the feedback. God Bless

LT, you are wasting my time. Bye Bye. Have a nice time during the tribulation under Antichrist. I can’t debate someone who refuses to answer questions.

Weren’t all the ungodly people judged in the flesh when they succumbed to the waters of the flood? In that case every single one of them must have been saved. You are preaching another Gospel and I would like to warn you to stop it before it is too late.”

Jeremiah was writing that which God had spoken to him. He writes a description of the trouble the people were in at the present time, and coming time. They were in Babylonian captivity. The Jews were to be restored again and taken out of the 70 year captivity. This is reflected from Jer 30:1-11.

This all happens BEFORE Christs’ First Coming in the flesh. Plenty of commentaries link this to end time theology. Which is possible no doubt. But the context is dealing with the present time in captivity.

IF….IF….IF….we were to “allude” to an end time theology, Matthew 24:21 might fit the bill. But to call Jeremiah 30:7 “time of Jacobs trouble”, the 70th week “7 year Tribulation” (which is NEVER found in scripture), is ridiculous exegesis of the scripture.

Cheers to hoping you don’t ignore the thrust of the comment and expose a missed comma or period. *shrug*

Tom said “Weren’t all the ungodly people judged in the flesh when they succumbed to the waters of the flood? In that case every single one of them must have been saved. You are preaching another Gospel and I would like to warn you to stop it before it is too late.”

Spot on Tom. LT does indeed preach another doctrine.

LT

Not even God can convince you of a seven-year tribulation when you refuse to see it in his Word. Why then, do you think, should I waste my time?

You seem to like playing with words and cause confusion. You used the words “ONE time” in one of your comments. I responded with “ONCE-off.” You then said you used the word “obscure” and no ONCE -off. Now, tell me what’s the difference between obscure and ONE time ONCE -off? The ONE time or ONCE-off tells you it is obscure. Stop playing your little games with me. I am not a fool.

There is a “Jacob’s Trouble” in the Bible not so? Would you agree to that? The fact that it’s in the Bible proves that it must be i important. So, when do you say, will Jacob’s Trouble” transpire?