Comments on: Was Charles Haddon Spurgeon a Clairvoyant?

By: Collin

Collin — Sun, 18 Jul 2021 12:37:37 +0000

It always strikes me as funny when staunch Calvinists call people “heretics”. The word comes from a Greek word for choice! If sovereignty works as per the Calvinist claim then wherein was the choice? How can Paul and Peter and others who had seen Christ face-to-face and been taught by him and the Holy Spirit talk of choice when according to Spurgeon, God foreordained their falling away? If you believe in Jesus as the Son of God or if you believe at all the testimony of the Apostles then who has the greater authority? Yet I will say, some parables are confusing and could puzzle me about the matter. Yet again, what purpose is a call if there can be no answer? Why not just decree who stands and falls immediately. And why forestall the End Times? It’s a puzzle. From the Calvinist position you could say that it is because by sin certain of the Elect are born. This seems a mighty dangerous thing to assert because even also then you must say that them that passed through fire to Moloch went to God instead and that was part of his plan for the salvation of those of the Elect. And God speaks vehemently against that and I believe him. Yea, I am sure he did indeed snatch from Moloch every soul put through the fire to Moloch, because God is good and just. But he did not steal them from Moloch ( it’s the opposite, Moloch stole from God and God reclaimed and redeemed his own ) nor did he cause them to go through the fire. Yeah, he said it did not even enter his mind. He was indignant! ( At least, he may even have been wroth. ) Calling out false prophets and false gods and declaring the wickedness of those who had done this. The slander against his name. But it must be by the Calvinist position a work of quote “irresistible grace” that he “caused” those children to pass through fire so that they would not be condemned for their sins. Or else the Calvinist must say that not a single of those literal babies was Elect and so God did not care about them – when it’s clear from his declaration of indignation that he did! It makes a mockery of grace when you bear it out logically. It is my sincere hope that every child who dies in infancy goes to God because of who he is and what he has done, but if there’s Biblical basis for such a belief I would like much to hear it.

By: Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)

Tom Lessing (Discerning the World) — Sat, 04 May 2019 05:42:22 +0000

In reply to Arturo.

Is Spurgeon your God and therefore above reproach?

Read this:

https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2014/02/27/calvinism-greatest-delusion/

By: Arturo

Arturo — Fri, 03 May 2019 16:52:37 +0000

What extents some men will go to prove a point, as far as slander and fabricate something so utterly absurd about someone like Spurgeon, reminds me of just how full of [edited out] the world is. People will believe what they will believe no matter what. Whoever wrote this is better suited for fiction.

By: Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)

Tom Lessing (Discerning the World) — Sun, 01 Jul 2018 18:54:16 +0000

In reply to Chuck. Augustine was a Roman Catholic and Calvin a follower of Augustine. I suggest that you rather listen to Paul of Tarsus. The first two mentioned were heretics. Spurgeon believed that man does not have a free will, and Calvin believed that he should murder those who do have a free will before they could act upon theirs.

By: Chuck

Chuck — Sun, 01 Jul 2018 16:49:34 +0000

“The old truth that Calvin preached, that Augustine preached, that Paul preached, is the truth that I must preach to-day, or else be false to my conscience and my God. I cannot shape the truth; I know of no such thing as paring off the rough edges of a doctrine. John Knox’s gospel is my gospel.”

C. H. Spurgeon

By: Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)

Tom Lessing (Discerning the World) — Fri, 29 Apr 2016 18:21:13 +0000

In reply to Shaun.

Hi Shaun. You don’t seem to know anything about Calvinism. Please tell me what do you think of the following statements?

1) Jesus did not die for everyone.
2) Jesus only died for the elect.
3) Jesus does not love everyone.
4) Jesus only loves the elect.
5) God only draws the elect to his Son.
6) God hates sinners.
7) John Calvin was a serial killer.
8) God decreed everything, even Adam and Eve’s sin. King David’s murder of Bathsheba’s husband and his adultery with her, and Judas’ betrayal of Jesus, when a child is molested or raped by someone, that’s right God decreed it, i.e., EVERYTHING.
9) God casts the reprobate in hell to give Him more glory.
10. God casts the reprobate in hell because it gives Him great pleasure.
11) Man does not have a free-will.
12) Free willism is idolatry.

There are many more questions I can ask you but these twelve will suffice for the moment. Take your time.

By: Shaun

Shaun — Fri, 29 Apr 2016 14:10:32 +0000

Was C.H.Spurgeon a fraudster or demon possessed to point out a secret sin ? Perhaps , perhaps not . Who are we to limit or place in a shoe box the move of God ?
Did C.H.Spurgeon preach a false gospel , I think not , the gospel he preached was not only a Calvinistic gospel but the gospel that the Apostle Paul preached , Paul preached the gospel of Faith alone in Christ Alone to the glory of God alone . Any thing short of this message is a false message and nullifies the death of Jesus.

Salvation is found in Christ alone , these men preached this gospel . They understood the doctrine of justification by faith as the entire Bible echoes.

As for doctrine of election – scripture provides more than adequate verses to support this doctrine ,having said that the Book of Revelation has a verse declaring ,” whosoever will let him come drink from the fountain of life .

How can he come , if he is not drawn , how can he drink if he does not accept , no wonder the Bible says salvation belongs to our God . What an Awesome God whose heart is that none should perish but all have everlasting life .

All I am trying to say or ask, with all the good that came from the ministry of someone like C.H.Spurgeon , do we say that is was not of God if we declare him a clairvoyant ?

By: Deborah (Discerning the World)

Deborah (Discerning the World) — Fri, 18 Dec 2015 06:55:47 +0000

In reply to Joy Michael. Joy >> John Calvin was for his time. At that time the “WORD OF GOD” was not available to the common man. He formed his own understanding and preached as such. The question is what did he preach and what did the people of his time believe. IN JESUS CHRIST or in John Calvin. Today also it is the same. What do you believe in??!! Jesus Christ or men!! Discussing the frailties and weakness’s of men and exalting these frailties serves no purpose. John Calvin has lived on till this time as well, hence you have a multitude of Calvinists all believing in Calvinism that they believe is the gospel, do you believe in predestination, that God chose you to be saved before time memorial?

By: Joy Michael

Joy Michael — Tue, 15 Dec 2015 15:08:48 +0000

The MAIN QUESTION IS DO PEOPLE WHO HEAR THE MESSAGE ABOUT JESUS CHRIST I.E. “THE GOSPEL” FROM ANYONE IRRESPECTIVE OF OF HIS RELIGIOUS AFFILIATIONS — IS!!! Whether They Believe in “THE GOSPEL” or in the messenger. If they believe in the Gospel they are saved but if they believe in the messanger they are lost.
John Calvin was for his time. At that time the “WORD OF GOD” was not available to the common man. He formed his own understanding and preached as such. The question is what did he preach and what did the people of his time believe. IN JESUS CHRIST or in John Calvin. Today also it is the same. What do you believe in??!! Jesus Christ or men!! Discussing the frailties and weakness’s of men and exalting these frailties serves no purpose. Each one has to account for themselves. Discussing matters which happened 1500 years ago serves no purpose. Let us EXALT OUR SAVIOUR — THE LORD JESUS CHRIST – Amen

By: Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)

Tom Lessing (Discerning the World) — Mon, 14 Dec 2015 05:25:04 +0000

In reply to Jeremy. Jeremy How did I get “I never could understand why Calvinists love to follow a serial killer (John Calvin)”? Please read this article: Calvinists Justify the Known Murderer, John Calvin.