Chaplain Bob Walker wrote:

I never said God hates ALL SINNERS or he would hate me.

Difference between you and I is I believe the Bible and what it says.

But I shall let you argue with the Lord and maybe you can decide if you wish to love Satan.

So, what you are actually saying is that whoever believes that God loves all mankind (John 3:16), is a lover of Satan. Is that it?

Who, may I ask, are the sinners whom God hates, excluding you, of course, as you said. Are you sure you believe the Bible and what it says? Are you not perhaps believing John Calvin, the serial killer and murderer. who had those whom he hated, executed?

Malachi 1:1,3 – The burden of the word of the LORD to Israel by Malachi.

I have loved you, saith the LORD. Yet ye say, Wherein hast thou loved us? Was not Esau Jacob’s brother? saith the LORD: yet I loved Jacob, And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.

God says it all right here and we should never strive to be like Esau who hated God and his gifts.

Come on Chaplain, you should know better than that (John 3:10). You ought to know by now that the Holy Spirit often uses forceful language to emphasize a truth he wants to bring across. For instance, in Luke 14:26 Jesus said: “If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.” How can this be when Paul admonishes husbands to love their wives in the very same way Christ loves his church? (Ephesians 5:25). Do you really think Jesus would contradict himself when He personally gave the Gospel to Paul? It simply means that your love for God must be so overwhelmingly intense that your love for your wife should seem like something equal to hatred. Do you hate your wife, Chaplain? If you do, please don’t tell her without explaining to her the meaning of Luke 14:26.

In any case, Malachi does not refer to the individuals, Jacob and Esau, but to the two nations they represent (Genesis 5:23). If God hated the nation that came from Esau then the entire nation would be reprobate (non-elect) and bound for hell. Similarly, if God loved Jacob then the entire nation of Israel would have been elected unto salvation and irretrievably bound for heaven. That’s ridiculous. Jesus Himself said that the great majority of the Jews are bound for hell and only a remnant will be saved (Matthew 8:12).

Calvinists who quote Malachi 1:1,3 and Romans 9:13 are really getting a bit boring. The sad thing is that Calvinists do not want to listen to reason. They are bent on teaching that God hates sinners. That’s pure blasphemy. Stop your nonsense and repent.

Chaplain Bob Walker wrote:

I never said God hates ALL SINNERS or he would hate me.

Difference between you and I is I believe the Bible and what it says.

But I shall let you argue with the Lord and maybe you can decide if you wish to love Satan.

Chaplain Bob Walker wrote:

Malachi 1:1,3 – The burden of the word of the LORD to Israel by Malachi.

I have loved you, saith the LORD. Yet ye say, Wherein hast thou loved us? Was not Esau Jacob’s brother? saith the LORD: yet I loved Jacob, And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.

God says it all right here and we should never strive to be like Esau who hated God and his gifts.

Come on Chaplain, you should know better than that (John 3:10). You ought to know by now that the Holy Spirit often uses forceful language to emphasize a truth he wants to bring across. For instance, in Luke 14:26 Jesus said: “If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.” How can this be when Paul admonishes husbands to love their wives in the very same way Christ loves his church? (Ephesians 5:25). Do you really think Jesus would contradict himself when He personally gave the Gospel to Paul? It simply means that your love for God must be so overwhelmingly intense that your love for your wife should seem like something equal to hatred. Do you hate your wife, Chaplain? If you do, please don’t tell her without explaining to her the meaning of Luke 14:26.

In any case, Malachi does not refer to the individuals, Jacob and Esau, but to the two nations they represent (Genesis 5:23). If God hated the nation that came from Esau then the entire nation would be reprobate (non-elect) and bound for hell. Similarly, if God loved Jacob then the entire nation of Israel would have been elected unto salvation and irretrievably bound for heaven. That’s ridiculous. Jesus Himself said that the great majority of the Jews are bound for hell and only a remnant will be saved (Matthew 8:12).

Calvinists who quote Malachi 1:1,3 and Romans 9:13 are really getting a bit boring. The sad thing is that Calvinists do not want to listen to reason. They are bent on teaching that God hates sinners. That’s pure blasphemy. Stop your nonsense and repent.

I have loved you, saith the LORD. Yet ye say, Wherein hast thou loved us? Was not Esau Jacob’s brother? saith the LORD: yet I loved Jacob, And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.

God says it all right here and we should never strive to be like Esau who hated God and his gifts.

sheugnet

You desire to keep God’s law? Do you keep the rest of the laws as the bible commands? Did you read Galations?

You know as well as I that the Kingdom of God is not present on earth yet. Had it already been here we wouldn’t have to pray “Let thy Kingdom come.” And so too we wouldn’t need to pray “let thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven” when everyone was already doing his will 100%. How can something that is not on earth yet, sin? And how can God’s Kingdom which is already in heaven, sin?

I’m sorry Sheugnet, but you are talking nonsense and I’m really not in the mood to listen to a few childish remqarks.

I’m sorry, Thomas. I never did answer your questions.

You ask: Since when did his kingdom sin?

My answer: In Adam when Adam rebelled against God’s authority did the kingdom sin

So when Jesus said: “The kingdom of heaven is at hand” He meant that the sinful kingdom in Adam has come among them.

You are way off base. His kingdom did not sin; Adam and Eve sinned.

Sheugnet

>> we know that God has a seal which is the Holy Spirit and the Sabbath.

Ahhhhh, the Sabbath? Trying to combine grace and the law I see. Are you a Seventh-day Adventist or a Hebrew Roots follower?

[Edited: I was actually writing this article when you posted your comment –> Please read: The Sabbath and the Tribulation]