The term ‘Replacement theology’ was made up by pre-millennial dispensationalists. It is not found in scripture. The Apostle Paul says the church isthe Israel of god.  Galatians 6: 15,16.

Did Fran mean to quote from NIV? Because the KJV has an ‘and’ in verse 16 meaning this was addressed to the believing gentiles AND the Israel of God who was the believing Jews. I mean it is so obvious :investigate:

birnie. You have not replaced Israel and neither shall you in the eternities to come. Why? Because God is not as liar and all his promises are yeah and amen in his Son, Jesus Christ. (2 Corinthians 1:20).

Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name: If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever. (Jeremiah 31:35-36)

If you reject Israel as God’s chosen people, you have in effect rejected the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob (Israel). The Berean Call reports,

The Bible identifies Him as “the God of Israel” 203 times, “the God of Jacob” 28 times, “the God of Abraham” 17 times, and “the God of Isaac” 13 times. Never is He called the “God of any other ethnic group.”These designations are foundational to everything the Bible teaches, including the very character of God. To profess to believe in God and at the same time to hold a prejudice against God’s chosen people, the Jews, or against Israel, which turns these clear biblical identifications into meaningless titles, casts doubt upon whether one really knows the true God.

You should make very certain whether you are following the Jesus of the Bible and not another Jesus

Peter 2:9  9But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for God’s own possession, to proclaim the virtues of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light. 10Once you were not a people, but now you are the people of God; once you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy.…

Fran wrote:

Paul made a temple sacrifice once, most probably to make the Jewish Christians feel at ease and head off a confrontation. I know circumcision is not a sacrifice. I was making reference to any OT practice which is now discontinued and which Paul disapproved of.

That’s your problem. You are using examples that are not relevant to the subject of our discussion. Keep to the subject and stop wandering off in things like the circumcision.

You wrote:

I read the 2 links that is why I posted the link from the Jewish website. The Jewish site didn’t mention Ashkenazi DNA.

I know salvation is of the Jews because Christ was born into a family who were Jews.

Why would you now suddenly rely on a Jewish website when you said “Our duty is to support bible believing Christians first and then unbelievers in mission work.” Now suddenly you want to use some obscure Jewish info on DNA when they don’t even know or believe in Jesus Christ.

You wrote:

I know salvation is of the Jews because Christ was born into a family who were Jews.

Well, if you believe this why do you shun his promises to the Jews with regard to his New Covenant with them in Jeremiah 31:31?

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Zionism is a heresy as it is an unbiblical theology. That doesn’t mean Jesus is a heresy because He was a Jew. That’s an illogical argument.

NO it’s not an illogical argument. It is a very sound and believable argument, especially when you take into account what King David wrote about Zion in his prophetic Psalms.

Psa_2:6 Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.
Psa_9:11 Sing praises to the LORD, which dwelleth in Zion: declare among the people his doings.
Psa_9:14 That I may shew forth all thy praise in the gates of the daughter of Zion: I will rejoice in thy salvation.
Psa_14:7 Oh that the salvation of Israel were come out of Zion! when the LORD bringeth back the captivity of his people, Jacob shall rejoice, and Israel shall be glad.
Psa_20:2 Send thee help from the sanctuary, and strengthen thee out of Zion;
Psa_48:2 Beautiful for situation, the joy of the whole earth, is mount Zion, on the sides of the north, the city of the great King.
Psa_48:11 Let mount Zion rejoice, let the daughters of Judah be glad, because of thy judgments.
Psa_48:12 Walk about Zion, and go round about her: tell the towers thereof.
Psa_50:2 Out of Zion, the perfection of beauty, God hath shined.

King David, whose throne Jesus is going to ascend during the Millennium, (Luke 1:32-33) are both Zionists and you dare say it is heresy?

You wrote:

The term ‘Replacement theology’ was made up by pre-millennial dispensationalists. It is not found in scripture. The Apostle Paul says the church is the Israel of god. Galatians 6: 15,16.

Romans is a perfect treatise against Replacement Theology.

NO my dear, you are the one who are contradicting yourself again and again.

Paul made a temple sacrifice once, most probably to make the Jewish Christians feel at ease and head off a confrontation. I know circumcision is not a sacrifice. I was making reference to any OT practice which is now discontinued and which Paul disapproved of.

https://www.christiancourier.com/articles/699-did-paul-sin-in-submitting-to-the-temple-ritual

I read the 2 links that is why I posted the link from the Jewish website. The Jewish site didn’t mention Ashkenazi DNA.

I know salvation is of the Jews because Christ was born into a family who were Jews.

Zionism is a heresy as it is an unbiblical theology. That doesn’t mean Jesus is a heresy because He was a Jew. That’s an illogical argument.

The term ‘Replacement theology’ was made up by pre-millennial dispensationalists. It is not found in scripture. The Apostle Paul says the church is the Israel of god. Galatians 6: 15,16.

You continue in contradictory statements and repeat yourself. In answering I have to repeat myself.

Fran wrote:

Paul didn’t continue with the sacrifices in the temple as he later wrote to the Galatians and accused them of heresy because they practiced circumcision.

Circumcsion is not a sacrifice. Are you denying that Paul brought sacrifices in the temple or is that also just symbolic?

You wrote:

I’ve never heard of Bob Finley but I mentioned that there were many Ashkenazi Jews living in Israel. The website I posted proves that the Ashkenazis were not of the bloodline of those Jews living at the time of Christ. Anyone can convert to Judaism. This has nothing to do with the Jews mentioned in the scriptures.

You are obviously not reading the links I posted. Please read here and here. You seem to love the lie of which Satan is the father (John 8:44).

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You seem more focussed on the Jews than Christians and the gospel. Zionism is a modern day heresy.

No, I am not more focused on the Jews but Jesus did say “salvation is of the Jews.” (John 4:22).

Jesus Himself is a Jew and when you say Zionism (Jewishness) is a heresy you are in fact saying Jesus is a heresy.

Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father’s house, unto a land that I will shew thee: And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing: And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.” (Gen 12:1-3).

If there is no such thing as replacement theology, why do you say the church is the new Isreal? You are contradicting yourself.

There is no such thing as replacement theology only the ‘Israel of God’ in the scriptures. Your site has not proved that the ‘Israel of God’ meaning the Christian church (which includes converted Jews and Gentiles) is a myth. You are grasping at straws and your interpretation is wrong.

Paul didn’t continue with the sacrifices in the temple as he later wrote to the Galatians and accused them of heresy because they practiced circumcision.

I’ve never heard of Bob Finley but I mentioned that there were many Ashkenazi Jews living in Israel. The website I posted proves that the Ashkenazis were not of the bloodline of those Jews living at the time of Christ. Anyone can convert to Judaism. This has nothing to do with the Jews mentioned in the scriptures.

I don’t deny believers being caught up to be with God in Heaven at the Second Coming.

I don’t have a small view of God. Every covenant God made with Israel has been fulfilled. The new covenant is about Christ, not the Jews. The spiritual kingdom of God is now on the earth as the Christian church. Old Israel was a physical kingdom. The Jeremiah quote is a prophecy about Christ and a new covenant.

The term Christian applies to those who are born-again, who have faith, have repented and accepted Christ their Saviour and received the Holy Spirit. Some of the denominations you mentioned are not Christian but God can save people from any denominational heresy. The true church of Christ is those who are saved regardless of the denomination.

I sent the Jewish website to prove that the Ashkenazi Jews who live in Israel originally came from Europe. When I mentioned that Ashkenazi Jews originated in Europe in my previous post you got angry and compared me to Bob Finley and said it was an infamous myth.

You seem more focussed on the Jews than Christians and the gospel. Zionism is a modern day heresy.

Fran wrote:

This is from a Jewish website.

http://www.jewfaq.org/ashkseph.htm

So, what’s your point? The Jewish site says that both the Ashkenazis and Sephardics are all Jews, from different parts of the world.

http://www.jewfaq.org/ashkseph.htm