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	Comments on: Retha McPherson&#8217;s Message from Another God &#8211; (Part 2)	</title>
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		By: Macy		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Now, after reading this, I don&#039;t know how deliberate this is. Some people have mental issues, and it can make them do things like this and think in this way, but following new age movement and communicating with demons exacerbates this. I feel sorry that they are being deceived but think this is the truth.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, after reading this, I don&#8217;t know how deliberate this is. Some people have mental issues, and it can make them do things like this and think in this way, but following new age movement and communicating with demons exacerbates this. I feel sorry that they are being deceived but think this is the truth.</p>
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		By: Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2013/05/22/retha-mcphersons-message-from-another-god-part-2/#comment-434285&quot;&gt;Ena Diedericks&lt;/a&gt;.

Ena Diedericks,

You end your comment with these words,

&lt;blockquote&gt;Don’t be too critical on Retha’s experiences lest we blaspheme against the Holy Spirit.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yet you ventured to add your own critique to this post? Aren&#039;t you afraid that what you had said might be blasphemy against the Holy Spirit?

With regard to your view on the Bride of Christ. Are you an adherent to the holiness movement?

You said,

&lt;blockquote&gt;That brings me to the greatest reason why I am doing the trouble to react on this forum: the whole family of God (the saved ones) is not the Bride. The bride of Christ is those who have the nature of the Lamb. They have sacrificed (laid down) their own will/lives/name/fame just like he did. He showed us the way to follow. That is a hard road this crucified life and only by His mercy and grace and by the “Child trainer” – the Holy Spirit and through intimacy with the Lord (the Holy Place) this is worked out. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

You are contradicting what Jesus said. He said that his commandments are not burdensome (heavy; weighty) (1 John 5:3-4). And surely one of his most important commands - if I may call it that - is,

&lt;blockquote&gt;And when he had called the people unto him with his disciples also, he said unto them, Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. (Mark 8:34)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

According to Jesus this command is not heavy or burdensome, meaning that every child of God is able to obey it every single day of his life. Why is it not difficult? Because every single child of God has already been crucified with Christ and has already been buried in his death, has already risen with Him from the dead and is already seated with Him in heavenly places. The only thing he needs to do is to reckon that he is indeed dead to sin (note the singular which refers to the sinful Adamic nature and not sins). That is why Jesus said that his commandments are not burdensome, heavy or difficult. Every child of God can do it. Do we all do it every day? No, of course not, but does this mean those who fail to do it every day are not his Bride? Perish the thought. Paul proves that they are indeed his Bride in 1 Corinthians.

&lt;blockquote&gt;According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon. For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; Every man&#039;s work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man&#039;s work of what sort it is. If any man&#039;s work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. If any man&#039;s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire. (1 Corinthians 3:10-15).&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Here we see the Bride of Christ (all believers without exception) being judged at the Bema Throne Judgement Seat. Jesus Christ is going to rapture his Bride (all the believers) and not only those Christians who have gained a higher level of spirituality (who laid down their will/lives/name/fame). Notice the range of building material - gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay and stubble. The latter (wood, hay and stubble) are all the things that were done in the flesh and in one&#039;s own efforts. These works are going to go up in flames. Yet the ones who have done these kind of works will stand next to the other members of the Bride of Christ in heaven during the Bema Seat Judgment. They will not be left behind on earth at the Rapture because they did not perform as well as the other super Christians who, as you say, have the nature of the Lamb. By the way, don&#039;t all Christians who have been saved receive the nature of the Lamb? (Galatians 2:20).

If the whole family of God (the saved ones) is not the Bride, then Paul must have hallucinated when he said,

&lt;blockquote&gt;Would to God ye could bear with me a little in my folly: and indeed bear with me. For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ. But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtlety, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. (2 Corinthians 11:1-3)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Paul says here that he betrothed (married them off) to One Husband and therefore all of them are his Bride. Yet there were some who did not live the crucified life as they should have. Nevertheless, this did not cut them off from remaining the Bride of Christ. 

Beware of high mindedness to say &quot;I have the nature of the Lamb because I have laid down my will/life/name and fame. The others do not have the nature of the Lamb because they have not done what I have done.&quot; It sounds too much like the Pharisee who boasted,

&lt;blockquote&gt;The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican. (Luke 18:11)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall. (Proverbs 16:18)&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2013/05/22/retha-mcphersons-message-from-another-god-part-2/#comment-434285" >Ena Diedericks</a>.</p>
<p>Ena Diedericks,</p>
<p>You end your comment with these words,</p>
<blockquote><p>Don’t be too critical on Retha’s experiences lest we blaspheme against the Holy Spirit.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yet you ventured to add your own critique to this post? Aren&#8217;t you afraid that what you had said might be blasphemy against the Holy Spirit?</p>
<p>With regard to your view on the Bride of Christ. Are you an adherent to the holiness movement?</p>
<p>You said,</p>
<blockquote><p>That brings me to the greatest reason why I am doing the trouble to react on this forum: the whole family of God (the saved ones) is not the Bride. The bride of Christ is those who have the nature of the Lamb. They have sacrificed (laid down) their own will/lives/name/fame just like he did. He showed us the way to follow. That is a hard road this crucified life and only by His mercy and grace and by the “Child trainer” – the Holy Spirit and through intimacy with the Lord (the Holy Place) this is worked out. </p></blockquote>
<p>You are contradicting what Jesus said. He said that his commandments are not burdensome (heavy; weighty) (1 John 5:3-4). And surely one of his most important commands &#8211; if I may call it that &#8211; is,</p>
<blockquote><p>And when he had called the people unto him with his disciples also, he said unto them, Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. (Mark 8:34)</p></blockquote>
<p>According to Jesus this command is not heavy or burdensome, meaning that every child of God is able to obey it every single day of his life. Why is it not difficult? Because every single child of God has already been crucified with Christ and has already been buried in his death, has already risen with Him from the dead and is already seated with Him in heavenly places. The only thing he needs to do is to reckon that he is indeed dead to sin (note the singular which refers to the sinful Adamic nature and not sins). That is why Jesus said that his commandments are not burdensome, heavy or difficult. Every child of God can do it. Do we all do it every day? No, of course not, but does this mean those who fail to do it every day are not his Bride? Perish the thought. Paul proves that they are indeed his Bride in 1 Corinthians.</p>
<blockquote><p>According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon. For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; Every man&#8217;s work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man&#8217;s work of what sort it is. If any man&#8217;s work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. If any man&#8217;s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire. (1 Corinthians 3:10-15).</p></blockquote>
<p>Here we see the Bride of Christ (all believers without exception) being judged at the Bema Throne Judgement Seat. Jesus Christ is going to rapture his Bride (all the believers) and not only those Christians who have gained a higher level of spirituality (who laid down their will/lives/name/fame). Notice the range of building material &#8211; gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay and stubble. The latter (wood, hay and stubble) are all the things that were done in the flesh and in one&#8217;s own efforts. These works are going to go up in flames. Yet the ones who have done these kind of works will stand next to the other members of the Bride of Christ in heaven during the Bema Seat Judgment. They will not be left behind on earth at the Rapture because they did not perform as well as the other super Christians who, as you say, have the nature of the Lamb. By the way, don&#8217;t all Christians who have been saved receive the nature of the Lamb? (Galatians 2:20).</p>
<p>If the whole family of God (the saved ones) is not the Bride, then Paul must have hallucinated when he said,</p>
<blockquote><p>Would to God ye could bear with me a little in my folly: and indeed bear with me. For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ. But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtlety, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. (2 Corinthians 11:1-3)</p></blockquote>
<p>Paul says here that he betrothed (married them off) to One Husband and therefore all of them are his Bride. Yet there were some who did not live the crucified life as they should have. Nevertheless, this did not cut them off from remaining the Bride of Christ. </p>
<p>Beware of high mindedness to say &#8220;I have the nature of the Lamb because I have laid down my will/life/name and fame. The others do not have the nature of the Lamb because they have not done what I have done.&#8221; It sounds too much like the Pharisee who boasted,</p>
<blockquote><p>The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican. (Luke 18:11)</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall. (Proverbs 16:18)</p></blockquote>
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		By: Ena Diedericks		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2015 03:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know what makes me feel more uncomfortable -Rethas writings etc or this critique. To be honest, both make me feel very uncomfortable. At first glance, reading her stuff, her mother tongue, like mine, being Afrikaans, I think that her English is less than perfect and that causes an imperfect expression of what she actually wants to convey. The book hasn&#039;t been edited and that is a great pity. I did not perceive her book as &quot;inspired&quot; and I didn&#039;t exactly enjoy the read. I won&#039;t recommend it either.
I don&#039;t like her ministry though. I do believe her experiences she has in her walk with God are true and are for her own spiritual growth. It resonates with the kind of things that other great men of God also share. I don&#039;t think she should make a ministry out of it.
I agree with Reinhardt and would not call Retha demonized. She does try to convince through her own story though that being called a Christian and a church goer does not make you one. She clearly sketches this by outlining her circumstances before the accident and after. But she was still not wholly committed to Christ even after that. She was saved at one point but not filled with the Holy Spirit - I previously came to the conclusion that she just jumped into this ministry way before spiritual maturity. I introduced myself to her years back after one of her witnessing sessions and with shock discerned that something was amiss. It does seem that she eventually had a complete conversion. That does imply she gave her whole being to the Lord and received the Holy Spirit. I was shocked yet again that she actually had a ministry going originally without having received the Holy Spirit. That stresses my point that she shouldn&#039;t have had one then and neither now. She has a story to share - we all do. That doesn&#039;t make us called to &quot;ministry&quot;. Jesus told her son to tell everybody He lives - not her going gallivanting across her country - and now abroad - with this &quot;ministry&quot;. 
But concerning the criticism in this article - I generally found you conclusions erroneous. One example - re the sacrificed life: Romans 12:1
&quot; 1 Therefore I urge you, brethren, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies a living and holy sacrifice, acceptable to God&quot;  Yes, we are to give ourselves wholly to the Lord. You will only be enabled to do this after receiving the Holy Spirit, after repenting and accepting Jesus as Lord and Savior. First salvation, then receiving the Holy Spirit. Then spiritual growth into spiritual maturity - leaving the things of the flesh behind. You said something about fighting sin - she doesn&#039;t say that, she said flesh. Paul speaks about the &quot;old man&quot;.
That brings me to the greatest reason why I am doing the trouble to react on this forum: the whole family of God (the saved ones) is not the Bride. The bride of Christ is those who have the nature of the Lamb. They have sacrificed (laid down) their own will/lives/name/fame just like he did. He showed us the way to follow. That is a hard road this crucified life and only by His mercy and grace and by the &quot;Child trainer&quot; - the Holy Spirit and through intimacy with the Lord (the Holy Place) this is worked out. Philippians 2:12 says: :Work out your salvation with fear and trembling. Speaking to believers.  Also Rev 19:7 The bride must make herself ready. 
Don&#039;t be too critical on Retha&#039;s experiences lest we blaspheme against the Holy Spirit.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know what makes me feel more uncomfortable -Rethas writings etc or this critique. To be honest, both make me feel very uncomfortable. At first glance, reading her stuff, her mother tongue, like mine, being Afrikaans, I think that her English is less than perfect and that causes an imperfect expression of what she actually wants to convey. The book hasn&#8217;t been edited and that is a great pity. I did not perceive her book as &#8220;inspired&#8221; and I didn&#8217;t exactly enjoy the read. I won&#8217;t recommend it either.<br />
I don&#8217;t like her ministry though. I do believe her experiences she has in her walk with God are true and are for her own spiritual growth. It resonates with the kind of things that other great men of God also share. I don&#8217;t think she should make a ministry out of it.<br />
I agree with Reinhardt and would not call Retha demonized. She does try to convince through her own story though that being called a Christian and a church goer does not make you one. She clearly sketches this by outlining her circumstances before the accident and after. But she was still not wholly committed to Christ even after that. She was saved at one point but not filled with the Holy Spirit &#8211; I previously came to the conclusion that she just jumped into this ministry way before spiritual maturity. I introduced myself to her years back after one of her witnessing sessions and with shock discerned that something was amiss. It does seem that she eventually had a complete conversion. That does imply she gave her whole being to the Lord and received the Holy Spirit. I was shocked yet again that she actually had a ministry going originally without having received the Holy Spirit. That stresses my point that she shouldn&#8217;t have had one then and neither now. She has a story to share &#8211; we all do. That doesn&#8217;t make us called to &#8220;ministry&#8221;. Jesus told her son to tell everybody He lives &#8211; not her going gallivanting across her country &#8211; and now abroad &#8211; with this &#8220;ministry&#8221;.<br />
But concerning the criticism in this article &#8211; I generally found you conclusions erroneous. One example &#8211; re the sacrificed life: Romans 12:1<br />
&#8221; 1 Therefore I urge you, brethren, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies a living and holy sacrifice, acceptable to God&#8221;  Yes, we are to give ourselves wholly to the Lord. You will only be enabled to do this after receiving the Holy Spirit, after repenting and accepting Jesus as Lord and Savior. First salvation, then receiving the Holy Spirit. Then spiritual growth into spiritual maturity &#8211; leaving the things of the flesh behind. You said something about fighting sin &#8211; she doesn&#8217;t say that, she said flesh. Paul speaks about the &#8220;old man&#8221;.<br />
That brings me to the greatest reason why I am doing the trouble to react on this forum: the whole family of God (the saved ones) is not the Bride. The bride of Christ is those who have the nature of the Lamb. They have sacrificed (laid down) their own will/lives/name/fame just like he did. He showed us the way to follow. That is a hard road this crucified life and only by His mercy and grace and by the &#8220;Child trainer&#8221; &#8211; the Holy Spirit and through intimacy with the Lord (the Holy Place) this is worked out. Philippians 2:12 says: :Work out your salvation with fear and trembling. Speaking to believers.  Also Rev 19:7 The bride must make herself ready.<br />
Don&#8217;t be too critical on Retha&#8217;s experiences lest we blaspheme against the Holy Spirit.</p>
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		By: John Andrews UK/Ireland		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2014 13:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ilze wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;This woman- Retha McPherson- is a true daughter of the Almighty God – Lord God Jehovah.  She loves the Lord Jesus Christ – and Ruach Hakodesh.  She lives a holy life. 
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The fact that Retha McPherson&#039;s whole ministry and testimony is based on a lie doesn&#039;t bother you? No one has the ability to travel back and forth between heaven and earth. Only Jesus is able to according to the Bible.  John 3:12-14 (NKJV)

12 If I have told you earthly things and you do not believe, how will you believe if I tell you heavenly things? 13 No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man who is in heaven.

Thus you prefer to say &quot;she lives a holy life&quot; when she blatantly bases her ministry on a lie that you would like to believe?

 2 Timothy 4:3 (KJV)

3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears

Think on the verses above and then still stand your ground on Retha McPherson? - not possible, unless one is deceived.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ilze wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>This woman- Retha McPherson- is a true daughter of the Almighty God – Lord God Jehovah.  She loves the Lord Jesus Christ – and Ruach Hakodesh.  She lives a holy life.
</p></blockquote>
<p>The fact that Retha McPherson&#8217;s whole ministry and testimony is based on a lie doesn&#8217;t bother you? No one has the ability to travel back and forth between heaven and earth. Only Jesus is able to according to the Bible.  John 3:12-14 (NKJV)</p>
<p>12 If I have told you earthly things and you do not believe, how will you believe if I tell you heavenly things? 13 No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man who is in heaven.</p>
<p>Thus you prefer to say &#8220;she lives a holy life&#8221; when she blatantly bases her ministry on a lie that you would like to believe?</p>
<p> 2 Timothy 4:3 (KJV)</p>
<p>3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears</p>
<p>Think on the verses above and then still stand your ground on Retha McPherson? &#8211; not possible, unless one is deceived.</p>
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		By: Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2014 07:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2013/05/22/retha-mcphersons-message-from-another-god-part-2/#comment-319993&quot;&gt;Ilze&lt;/a&gt;.

Ilze,

I suggest that you make doubly sure that you are following the true Jesus of the Bible and not another Jesus.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. (Gal 1:6-8)&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2013/05/22/retha-mcphersons-message-from-another-god-part-2/#comment-319993" >Ilze</a>.</p>
<p>Ilze,</p>
<p>I suggest that you make doubly sure that you are following the true Jesus of the Bible and not another Jesus.</p>
<blockquote><p>I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. (Gal 1:6-8)</p></blockquote>
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		By: Ilze		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2014 06:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This woman- Retha McPherson- is a true daughter of the Almighty God - Lord God Jehovah.  She loves the Lord Jesus Christ - and Ruach Hakodesh.  She lives a holy life.  May our Lord Jesus Christ remove the veils from your eyes and heart.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This woman- Retha McPherson- is a true daughter of the Almighty God &#8211; Lord God Jehovah.  She loves the Lord Jesus Christ &#8211; and Ruach Hakodesh.  She lives a holy life.  May our Lord Jesus Christ remove the veils from your eyes and heart.</p>
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		By: Anthony		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anthony]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2014 17:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[An excellent article Deborah, thanks you so much :).

it seems many Jesus are popping out everywhere on earth, here we have another person claiming to be talking directly to Jesus, Vassula Ryden from TLG &quot; http://www.tlig.org/ &quot; and there is another &quot;Deborah &quot; in Denmark writing this article exposing the darker side of TLG  &quot; http://www.pseudomystica.info/ingerliseprov3.htm &quot;..

There is only ONE God , the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, he says, I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me. &quot; it is very clear that only through Jesus we come to the father &quot; 

one more thing, no one can receive the holy spirit if he does not first repent, accept Jesus as God and  saviour and only then the holy spirit will start his work in this person.

and also in john 3:16, For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An excellent article Deborah, thanks you so much :).</p>
<p>it seems many Jesus are popping out everywhere on earth, here we have another person claiming to be talking directly to Jesus, Vassula Ryden from TLG &#8221; <a target="_blank" href="http://www.tlig.org/"  rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.tlig.org/</a> &#8221; and there is another &#8220;Deborah &#8221; in Denmark writing this article exposing the darker side of TLG  &#8221; <a target="_blank" href="http://www.pseudomystica.info/ingerliseprov3.htm"  rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.pseudomystica.info/ingerliseprov3.htm</a> &#8220;..</p>
<p>There is only ONE God , the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, he says, I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me. &#8221; it is very clear that only through Jesus we come to the father &#8221; </p>
<p>one more thing, no one can receive the holy spirit if he does not first repent, accept Jesus as God and  saviour and only then the holy spirit will start his work in this person.</p>
<p>and also in john 3:16, For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life..</p>
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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deborah (Discerning the World)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2014 09:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2013/05/22/retha-mcphersons-message-from-another-god-part-2/#comment-288065&quot;&gt;William bob&lt;/a&gt;.

William Bob

I am writing back. I laugh at your comment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2013/05/22/retha-mcphersons-message-from-another-god-part-2/#comment-288065" >William bob</a>.</p>
<p>William Bob</p>
<p>I am writing back. I laugh at your comment.</p>
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		By: anton		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2014 10:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Deborah  / People
Reading all the mails and that people are concerned about this minisrty ....glad about the fact that people are looking into the Word of God to find truth.  . Retha is &quot;bowling everybody out&quot; in the Paarl district / W/Cape .]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Deborah  / People<br />
Reading all the mails and that people are concerned about this minisrty &#8230;.glad about the fact that people are looking into the Word of God to find truth.  . Retha is &#8220;bowling everybody out&#8221; in the Paarl district / W/Cape .</p>
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		By: Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Feb 2014 16:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2013/05/22/retha-mcphersons-message-from-another-god-part-2/#comment-288065&quot;&gt;William bob&lt;/a&gt;.

William bob,

What are the greater works He referred to?]]></description>
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<p>William bob,</p>
<p>What are the greater works He referred to?</p>
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