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	Comments on: Deon Hockey &#8211; Bringing the Toronto Blessing &#8216;Fire Serpent&#8217; to a Church Near You	</title>
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		By: Tony Conrad		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Very difficult when one doesn&#039;t know if one has been healed by God or Satan. Talk about confusion.]]></description>
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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Apr 2017 08:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2011/09/12/deon-hockey-bringing-the-toronto-blessing-fire-serpent-to-a-church-near-you/#comment-455320&quot;&gt;Koko&lt;/a&gt;.

Dear Koko

We can just PRAISE Jesus Christ that you heard the Holy Spirit&#039;s conviction and you listened and repented.  The same with me Koko, I too over many many years have fallen for many false doctrines and even false teachers...point in case - John MacArthur and many many years before that, before I knew about the Apostolic Reformation I saw a faith healer (not gonna mention his name) do some seriously serious miraculous miracles on Youtube that literally made me fall over. :horrified:  I had to research the Bible solidly and analyse what I was seeing on video over and over before I realised that Satan can truly heal a person but the healing in &lt;strong&gt;never &lt;/strong&gt;100% complete.  Afterwards the person&#039;s soul is trapped because they start to follow the &#039;healer and his false teachings&#039; - I think it&#039;s &lt;strong&gt;very difficult&lt;/strong&gt; for someone who has been satanically healed to come to the realization that it was not Jesus Christ who &#039;healed&#039; them...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2011/09/12/deon-hockey-bringing-the-toronto-blessing-fire-serpent-to-a-church-near-you/#comment-455320" >Koko</a>.</p>
<p>Dear Koko</p>
<p>We can just PRAISE Jesus Christ that you heard the Holy Spirit&#8217;s conviction and you listened and repented.  The same with me Koko, I too over many many years have fallen for many false doctrines and even false teachers&#8230;point in case &#8211; John MacArthur and many many years before that, before I knew about the Apostolic Reformation I saw a faith healer (not gonna mention his name) do some seriously serious miraculous miracles on Youtube that literally made me fall over. :horrified:  I had to research the Bible solidly and analyse what I was seeing on video over and over before I realised that Satan can truly heal a person but the healing in <strong>never </strong>100% complete.  Afterwards the person&#8217;s soul is trapped because they start to follow the &#8216;healer and his false teachings&#8217; &#8211; I think it&#8217;s <strong>very difficult</strong> for someone who has been satanically healed to come to the realization that it was not Jesus Christ who &#8216;healed&#8217; them&#8230;</p>
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		By: Koko		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Koko]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Apr 2017 00:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi everyone, this kundalini thing is so true. An excerpt from the above article &quot;A man once posed the question to an internet kundalini list: &quot;How does the heat manifest itself?&quot; The answers came back: As HEAT. It feels HOT!&quot; I remember years back, the pastor of a Pentecostal church that I used to attend, invited this man who was into the &quot;prophetic&quot; to preach and to &quot;minister&quot; and &quot;give a word&quot; to whoever, as the Lord leads. I remember that on one occasion, he called out the head of the choir and &quot;spoke into her life&quot; giving her some &quot;prophetic words&quot;. He then told her to lift up her hands, placed his hand on her head and told her to &quot;receive it&quot;. Later after church, I asked what she felt when he laid hands on her. She said she felt &quot;heat&quot; in her hands. At the time, I felt a bit jealous thinking why I never got called out at such meetings too to be &quot;laid hands upon&quot; and when will God have a &quot;word&quot; for me too. All I can say is, I cannot thank God enough for His mercies. In hindsight, I couldn&#039;t believe I fell for all this nonsense (I have fallen for quite a few deceptions out there) and recently had to repent and call on the name of Jesus again. This is because I responded to an alter call at 12. And I can&#039;t for the life of me, remember what was preached, or what I responded to and why. But given the number of deceptions that I have fallen for, I could not help conclude that it was probably a false conversion. Hence why as an adult, and fully aware of what I was doing and why, called on the name of Jesus asking Him to forgive me and to please save me because I am a sinner. Now I have started rechecking all the doctrines I got taught and subsequently I imbed during the years past. And sadly, many are not biblical. &quot;Laughing in the spirit&quot;, &quot;Slain in the spirit&quot;, &quot;Health and Weather gospel&quot;, &quot;Dominionism&quot; (I&#039;m ashamed to say I fell for these teachings) and many others are simply not biblical. No scriptural reference for them like AT ALL. Anyway, keep doing what you are doing and exposing these lies. Those that will hear will hear. Those that won&#039;t, won&#039;t unfortunately.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi everyone, this kundalini thing is so true. An excerpt from the above article &#8220;A man once posed the question to an internet kundalini list: &#8220;How does the heat manifest itself?&#8221; The answers came back: As HEAT. It feels HOT!&#8221; I remember years back, the pastor of a Pentecostal church that I used to attend, invited this man who was into the &#8220;prophetic&#8221; to preach and to &#8220;minister&#8221; and &#8220;give a word&#8221; to whoever, as the Lord leads. I remember that on one occasion, he called out the head of the choir and &#8220;spoke into her life&#8221; giving her some &#8220;prophetic words&#8221;. He then told her to lift up her hands, placed his hand on her head and told her to &#8220;receive it&#8221;. Later after church, I asked what she felt when he laid hands on her. She said she felt &#8220;heat&#8221; in her hands. At the time, I felt a bit jealous thinking why I never got called out at such meetings too to be &#8220;laid hands upon&#8221; and when will God have a &#8220;word&#8221; for me too. All I can say is, I cannot thank God enough for His mercies. In hindsight, I couldn&#8217;t believe I fell for all this nonsense (I have fallen for quite a few deceptions out there) and recently had to repent and call on the name of Jesus again. This is because I responded to an alter call at 12. And I can&#8217;t for the life of me, remember what was preached, or what I responded to and why. But given the number of deceptions that I have fallen for, I could not help conclude that it was probably a false conversion. Hence why as an adult, and fully aware of what I was doing and why, called on the name of Jesus asking Him to forgive me and to please save me because I am a sinner. Now I have started rechecking all the doctrines I got taught and subsequently I imbed during the years past. And sadly, many are not biblical. &#8220;Laughing in the spirit&#8221;, &#8220;Slain in the spirit&#8221;, &#8220;Health and Weather gospel&#8221;, &#8220;Dominionism&#8221; (I&#8217;m ashamed to say I fell for these teachings) and many others are simply not biblical. No scriptural reference for them like AT ALL. Anyway, keep doing what you are doing and exposing these lies. Those that will hear will hear. Those that won&#8217;t, won&#8217;t unfortunately.</p>
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		By: Ida		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ida]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2017 13:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Strangely enough I was searching for the one true God the creator of heaven and earth, and then along my pilgrimage I saw all of what John Bunyan (1622 Purition) saw on his Pilgrims Progress, and even more... some are unspeakable..    and I also was fooled sometimes.  But there comes a time that you have to leave behind the city of destruction and your loved ones and start moving towards the celestial city (if that&#039;s where you want to go).  It&#039;s difficult, the narrow road.  Thanks for interpreting the truth.  I learned a lot here.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strangely enough I was searching for the one true God the creator of heaven and earth, and then along my pilgrimage I saw all of what John Bunyan (1622 Purition) saw on his Pilgrims Progress, and even more&#8230; some are unspeakable..    and I also was fooled sometimes.  But there comes a time that you have to leave behind the city of destruction and your loved ones and start moving towards the celestial city (if that&#8217;s where you want to go).  It&#8217;s difficult, the narrow road.  Thanks for interpreting the truth.  I learned a lot here.</p>
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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deborah (Discerning the World)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2017 12:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2011/09/12/deon-hockey-bringing-the-toronto-blessing-fire-serpent-to-a-church-near-you/#comment-455209&quot;&gt;Deborah (Discerning the World)&lt;/a&gt;.

Dear Ida

Can I ask, why are you going to this church?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2011/09/12/deon-hockey-bringing-the-toronto-blessing-fire-serpent-to-a-church-near-you/#comment-455209" >Deborah (Discerning the World)</a>.</p>
<p>Dear Ida</p>
<p>Can I ask, why are you going to this church?</p>
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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deborah (Discerning the World)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2017 12:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2011/09/12/deon-hockey-bringing-the-toronto-blessing-fire-serpent-to-a-church-near-you/#comment-455208&quot;&gt;Ida&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Ida

You said &quot;I will ask Jesus Christ to remove the unholy ‘somethings’ from all of us at church..&quot;

Actually you can only ask forgiveness for yourself. :nod:  You warn and tell others of the demonic happenings and that they themselves need to repent, they then need to come to Jesus Christ themselves.  This thought process is exactly what the Apostolic and Prophetic bunch preach - territorial spiritual warfare.  Rebecca Brown teaches something similar, that you need to pray for the other person that the demonic entities are bound and then they are free to hear the gospel.  If it was so I am sure the disciples in the bible and Jesus Christ Himself would have run ahead to the town - removed all demons from people and then preached the gospel to them unhindered.  But it was not so, Jesus told the disciples that if people in the town/home didn&#039;t want to hear the gospel they were to sweep the dust from their feet and move on to the next house/town/church - Matthew 10:14]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2011/09/12/deon-hockey-bringing-the-toronto-blessing-fire-serpent-to-a-church-near-you/#comment-455208" >Ida</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Ida</p>
<p>You said &#8220;I will ask Jesus Christ to remove the unholy ‘somethings’ from all of us at church..&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually you can only ask forgiveness for yourself. :nod:  You warn and tell others of the demonic happenings and that they themselves need to repent, they then need to come to Jesus Christ themselves.  This thought process is exactly what the Apostolic and Prophetic bunch preach &#8211; territorial spiritual warfare.  Rebecca Brown teaches something similar, that you need to pray for the other person that the demonic entities are bound and then they are free to hear the gospel.  If it was so I am sure the disciples in the bible and Jesus Christ Himself would have run ahead to the town &#8211; removed all demons from people and then preached the gospel to them unhindered.  But it was not so, Jesus told the disciples that if people in the town/home didn&#8217;t want to hear the gospel they were to sweep the dust from their feet and move on to the next house/town/church &#8211; Matthew 10:14</p>
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		By: Ida		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ida]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2017 11:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I will ask Jesus Christ to remove the unholy &#039;somethings&#039; from all of us at church.., and to add some discernment upon our very own pastor not to use our money to pay these rich and famous &#039;prophets&#039;.  Can you believe we even pay them to bring that &#039;stuff&#039; Cry/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will ask Jesus Christ to remove the unholy &#8216;somethings&#8217; from all of us at church.., and to add some discernment upon our very own pastor not to use our money to pay these rich and famous &#8216;prophets&#8217;.  Can you believe we even pay them to bring that &#8216;stuff&#8217; Cry/</p>
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		By: Deborah (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deborah (Discerning the World)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2017 10:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2011/09/12/deon-hockey-bringing-the-toronto-blessing-fire-serpent-to-a-church-near-you/#comment-455204&quot;&gt;Ida&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Ida

You said  &quot;For the first time ever I had a preacher push me on my head,but I did not fall over and he moved on to the net person.&quot;

I don&#039;t know if you have, you probably have, but in case you haven&#039;t please just ask Jesus Christ forgiveness for going upfront to receive the unholy spirit he had to offer and ask Him to remove anything that&#039;s attached itself to you.  Just because you didn&#039;t fall over does not mean nothing was transferred to you. The fact that you were there upfront willing to receive &#039;something&#039; opens you up to problems.

As for Marius Higgins, his name rings a bell, I am sure someone has asked of him before on this site. I&#039;ll check.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2011/09/12/deon-hockey-bringing-the-toronto-blessing-fire-serpent-to-a-church-near-you/#comment-455204" >Ida</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Ida</p>
<p>You said  &#8220;For the first time ever I had a preacher push me on my head,but I did not fall over and he moved on to the net person.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if you have, you probably have, but in case you haven&#8217;t please just ask Jesus Christ forgiveness for going upfront to receive the unholy spirit he had to offer and ask Him to remove anything that&#8217;s attached itself to you.  Just because you didn&#8217;t fall over does not mean nothing was transferred to you. The fact that you were there upfront willing to receive &#8216;something&#8217; opens you up to problems.</p>
<p>As for Marius Higgins, his name rings a bell, I am sure someone has asked of him before on this site. I&#8217;ll check.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ida]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2017 10:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dear discerning people, thank you for this article.  I went to Deon&#039;s meeting at my very own church in South Africa.  For the first time ever I had a preacher push me on my head,but I did not fall over and he moved on to the net person. I don&#039;t like anybody pushing me.  I did not like the things he preached and it disturbed me. (telling us to fight the devil and that he himself was not afraid of the devil) when the Bible only teach us  to resist,and he will flee.  After Deon Hockey came the falsest prophet of all: and ex police man called Marius Higgins. Ohh man could he foretell the  future of all those willing to listen.  And with prophet Marius came the unholy laughter into our local church for the first time, (I haven&#039;t heard it since).  When I asked my pastor about this, he said I must be careful when questioning the man of god and to not grieve the holy spirit..  I am just rolling my eyes and lifting my eyebrows...  shaking my head sideways...  :ohno:   stunned. Crying for my church and my people. We would like to hear your opinion on Higgins. (he came to our church driving the biggest black 4 x 4 Mercedes Bens I have ever seen.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear discerning people, thank you for this article.  I went to Deon&#8217;s meeting at my very own church in South Africa.  For the first time ever I had a preacher push me on my head,but I did not fall over and he moved on to the net person. I don&#8217;t like anybody pushing me.  I did not like the things he preached and it disturbed me. (telling us to fight the devil and that he himself was not afraid of the devil) when the Bible only teach us  to resist,and he will flee.  After Deon Hockey came the falsest prophet of all: and ex police man called Marius Higgins. Ohh man could he foretell the  future of all those willing to listen.  And with prophet Marius came the unholy laughter into our local church for the first time, (I haven&#8217;t heard it since).  When I asked my pastor about this, he said I must be careful when questioning the man of god and to not grieve the holy spirit..  I am just rolling my eyes and lifting my eyebrows&#8230;  shaking my head sideways&#8230;  :ohno:   stunned. Crying for my church and my people. We would like to hear your opinion on Higgins. (he came to our church driving the biggest black 4 x 4 Mercedes Bens I have ever seen.</p>
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		By: Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2015 06:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2011/09/12/deon-hockey-bringing-the-toronto-blessing-fire-serpent-to-a-church-near-you/#comment-450591&quot;&gt;TrinitySeven&lt;/a&gt;.

TrinitySeven wrote

&lt;blockquote&gt;Remember, for everyone that may have a little occult power given to them from the devil, there are 100 more huxsters only claiming to have power and using sleight of hand techniques, for you to expose only the genuine hardcore elements, and not the softer elements (it’s all the same pile of garbage mind you) speaks of doing only a partial job, and also gives some of these people a front to hide behind . . . take the whole pile of nonsense and greedmongering down, not just the one half. .&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You are very optimistic to think you are able to expose all of the garbage all the time. Not even Paul was able to do that. Another grave mistake you&#039;re making is to think that we are here to take them down. That&#039;s impossible because Jesus Himself said that they will wax worse in the end time. (2 Tim 3:12-13). There is only one Person who can take them down in one go. Have you guessed who that is? Read Matthew 7:21-23).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2011/09/12/deon-hockey-bringing-the-toronto-blessing-fire-serpent-to-a-church-near-you/#comment-450591" >TrinitySeven</a>.</p>
<p>TrinitySeven wrote</p>
<blockquote><p>Remember, for everyone that may have a little occult power given to them from the devil, there are 100 more huxsters only claiming to have power and using sleight of hand techniques, for you to expose only the genuine hardcore elements, and not the softer elements (it’s all the same pile of garbage mind you) speaks of doing only a partial job, and also gives some of these people a front to hide behind . . . take the whole pile of nonsense and greedmongering down, not just the one half. .</p></blockquote>
<p>You are very optimistic to think you are able to expose all of the garbage all the time. Not even Paul was able to do that. Another grave mistake you&#8217;re making is to think that we are here to take them down. That&#8217;s impossible because Jesus Himself said that they will wax worse in the end time. (2 Tim 3:12-13). There is only one Person who can take them down in one go. Have you guessed who that is? Read Matthew 7:21-23).</p>
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