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		By: Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2017 05:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2011/02/25/chuck-smith-from-calvary-chapel-entertains-rick-warren/#comment-459383&quot;&gt;Sharan&lt;/a&gt;.

Sharan,

There are many DRC churches in South Africa who are dying a slow death and are opting to unite with the RCC to resuscitate themselves. It&#039;s all part of the great apostasy the Bible speaks about. Politely ask your pastor to instead of preaching a sermon one Sunday to give his testimony of how he was saved.  Make sure to listen very carefully. It all started with lighting candles and rapidly advanced to more serious errors, like the &quot;stations of the cross.&quot; I&#039;m sorry to say this but the &quot;susters&quot; will always be the first to introduce heresies in the churches. Satan targeted Eve and not Adam when he deceived mankind and plunged the entire human race in sin and death (1 Tim. 2:14). And, yes, the men are a bunch of wimps because they are scared to rebuke their wives for doing things in the church they are not supposed to do.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2011/02/25/chuck-smith-from-calvary-chapel-entertains-rick-warren/#comment-459383" >Sharan</a>.</p>
<p>Sharan,</p>
<p>There are many DRC churches in South Africa who are dying a slow death and are opting to unite with the RCC to resuscitate themselves. It&#8217;s all part of the great apostasy the Bible speaks about. Politely ask your pastor to instead of preaching a sermon one Sunday to give his testimony of how he was saved.  Make sure to listen very carefully. It all started with lighting candles and rapidly advanced to more serious errors, like the &#8220;stations of the cross.&#8221; I&#8217;m sorry to say this but the &#8220;susters&#8221; will always be the first to introduce heresies in the churches. Satan targeted Eve and not Adam when he deceived mankind and plunged the entire human race in sin and death (1 Tim. 2:14). And, yes, the men are a bunch of wimps because they are scared to rebuke their wives for doing things in the church they are not supposed to do.</p>
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		By: Sharan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sharan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Sep 2017 22:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Moemsie wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;In our small coastal town the Dutch Reform Church has more and more `emergent` traits. Apart from that it seems the `contemplative` approach is finding inroads. The `susters` are very excited to present the `sewe stasies van Christus se lyding (lydingsweek? -Lent?) All the chairs will be removed and seven wooden cubicles erected on the floor. Then all the churches in the area are invited to come and walk them `contemplatively` The Catholic Church is again invited! They gladly participated in a number of `unity` sermons already presented from his Dutch Reform Church. Does anyone of you know of another `seven stations` planned for `lent` in other Dutch Reformed Churches?

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I go to a Dutch Reformed church in Tucson and this past year we did a &quot;stations of the cross&quot; event for Good Friday service.  As a former Catholic, I cringed and avoided it altogether.  But then I&#039;m not sure why we&#039;re all doing &quot;Easter&quot; and Christmas either since both are pagan.  We should be celebrating the resurrection on a daily basis!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moemsie wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>In our small coastal town the Dutch Reform Church has more and more `emergent` traits. Apart from that it seems the `contemplative` approach is finding inroads. The `susters` are very excited to present the `sewe stasies van Christus se lyding (lydingsweek? -Lent?) All the chairs will be removed and seven wooden cubicles erected on the floor. Then all the churches in the area are invited to come and walk them `contemplatively` The Catholic Church is again invited! They gladly participated in a number of `unity` sermons already presented from his Dutch Reform Church. Does anyone of you know of another `seven stations` planned for `lent` in other Dutch Reformed Churches?</p>
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<p>I go to a Dutch Reformed church in Tucson and this past year we did a &#8220;stations of the cross&#8221; event for Good Friday service.  As a former Catholic, I cringed and avoided it altogether.  But then I&#8217;m not sure why we&#8217;re all doing &#8220;Easter&#8221; and Christmas either since both are pagan.  We should be celebrating the resurrection on a daily basis!</p>
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		By: Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)		</title>
		<link>https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2011/02/25/chuck-smith-from-calvary-chapel-entertains-rick-warren/#comment-458841</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Lessing (Discerning the World)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2017 00:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2011/02/25/chuck-smith-from-calvary-chapel-entertains-rick-warren/#comment-458786&quot;&gt;Brian McNamee&lt;/a&gt;.

Brian McNamee

Making an alliance with a person and compromising doctrine for the sake of alliances are two diametrically different things. False doctrine can pave the way to hell whereas as good king would probably not be able to accomplish such a feat.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2011/02/25/chuck-smith-from-calvary-chapel-entertains-rick-warren/#comment-458786" >Brian McNamee</a>.</p>
<p>Brian McNamee</p>
<p>Making an alliance with a person and compromising doctrine for the sake of alliances are two diametrically different things. False doctrine can pave the way to hell whereas as good king would probably not be able to accomplish such a feat.</p>
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		By: Brian McNamee		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian McNamee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2017 15:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[think back to Chronicles and King Asa he made a bad alliance with the king of Israel and was still recorded a good king.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>think back to Chronicles and King Asa he made a bad alliance with the king of Israel and was still recorded a good king.</p>
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		By: Dawn		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dawn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2014 16:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have been studying and AGONIZING over the great falling away that I am seeing up-close and personal. THE GOSPEL OF (the)GRACE (of Christ)(There is no other according to Paul - apostle TO and OF the Gentiles - like it or not!)................ 1 CORINTHIANS 15:1-19....GALATIANS Ch. 1 and Ch. 2:1-10...B-U-T!!!!!  Paul (CONTENDING for the Gospel of Grace)spends the REST of GALATIANS(starting at 2:11)confronting our dear brother, Peter, (and all those present) FACE TO FACE, because he (Peter) was to be BLAMED (for compromising and causing others to stumble)....What we are seeing now, regarding this great apostasy, is (via seminaries, pastors, elders, laymen, &#039;teachers&#039;, &#039;prophets&#039;, &#039;christian&#039; bookstores, etc., beginning 25-35 yrs. ago - via ignorance, sloppiness, or right out deception ) not having done what Paul did in Galatians.  By the way, it&#039;s called exhortation- 2 TIMOTHY 4:1-5  .................Self esteem, Inner healing, Name it &#038; Claim it, &#039;christian&#039; YOGA, &#039;New&#039; apostolic reformation, contemplative prayer &#038; mysticism (Desert fathers &#038; mothers), &#039;New&quot; evangelicalism, &quot;Your best life now&quot;, &#039;everyone will eventually be saved&#039; (christian universalism), You can be a Knight of Malta ??, Purpose-driven &#039;everything&#039;,...UGH!!  Read JUDE - packed to the brim with warnings regarding false teachers.  2 PETER 1:16 - 21 and Ch. 2 &#038; 3, regarding false teachers, and &quot;... not following cunningly devised fables...&quot; (fable: a fictitious story...like &#039;The Shack&#039; ?, &#039;The Quest,&#039;etc.?&quot; ; EPHESIANS 2 &#038; 3, regarding the revelation of the mystery of the Church (GIVEN TO PAUL!) 2 JOHN 7 -11...don&#039;t even bid them godspeed?? 
        TITUS 1:9-16 AND 2:1..... ; 2 TIMOTHY 3 and 4:1-8 - (BY THE WAY, Rick Joyner needs to read verses 6-9 - Paul DID FINISH his course, KEEPING &quot;THE FAITH&quot;, awaiting his CROWN OF RIGHTEOUSNESS which is laid up for him......!!)  And the ONLY ONE giving &#039;dominion&#039; to Jesus Christ is God the Father! Get back to preaching the Word of God, sound doctrine, etc., and God will take care of His part!  What a price our Savior paid for a Church/Bride...w/o spot or wrinkle.  
&quot;......,and NARROW is the gate, and FEW there be that find it.....&quot;  Lord Jesus, help us.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been studying and AGONIZING over the great falling away that I am seeing up-close and personal. THE GOSPEL OF (the)GRACE (of Christ)(There is no other according to Paul &#8211; apostle TO and OF the Gentiles &#8211; like it or not!)&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. 1 CORINTHIANS 15:1-19&#8230;.GALATIANS Ch. 1 and Ch. 2:1-10&#8230;B-U-T!!!!!  Paul (CONTENDING for the Gospel of Grace)spends the REST of GALATIANS(starting at 2:11)confronting our dear brother, Peter, (and all those present) FACE TO FACE, because he (Peter) was to be BLAMED (for compromising and causing others to stumble)&#8230;.What we are seeing now, regarding this great apostasy, is (via seminaries, pastors, elders, laymen, &#8216;teachers&#8217;, &#8216;prophets&#8217;, &#8216;christian&#8217; bookstores, etc., beginning 25-35 yrs. ago &#8211; via ignorance, sloppiness, or right out deception ) not having done what Paul did in Galatians.  By the way, it&#8217;s called exhortation- 2 TIMOTHY 4:1-5  &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..Self esteem, Inner healing, Name it &amp; Claim it, &#8216;christian&#8217; YOGA, &#8216;New&#8217; apostolic reformation, contemplative prayer &amp; mysticism (Desert fathers &amp; mothers), &#8216;New&#8221; evangelicalism, &#8220;Your best life now&#8221;, &#8216;everyone will eventually be saved&#8217; (christian universalism), You can be a Knight of Malta ??, Purpose-driven &#8216;everything&#8217;,&#8230;UGH!!  Read JUDE &#8211; packed to the brim with warnings regarding false teachers.  2 PETER 1:16 &#8211; 21 and Ch. 2 &amp; 3, regarding false teachers, and &#8220;&#8230; not following cunningly devised fables&#8230;&#8221; (fable: a fictitious story&#8230;like &#8216;The Shack&#8217; ?, &#8216;The Quest,&#8217;etc.?&#8221; ; EPHESIANS 2 &amp; 3, regarding the revelation of the mystery of the Church (GIVEN TO PAUL!) 2 JOHN 7 -11&#8230;don&#8217;t even bid them godspeed??<br />
        TITUS 1:9-16 AND 2:1&#8230;.. ; 2 TIMOTHY 3 and 4:1-8 &#8211; (BY THE WAY, Rick Joyner needs to read verses 6-9 &#8211; Paul DID FINISH his course, KEEPING &#8220;THE FAITH&#8221;, awaiting his CROWN OF RIGHTEOUSNESS which is laid up for him&#8230;&#8230;!!)  And the ONLY ONE giving &#8216;dominion&#8217; to Jesus Christ is God the Father! Get back to preaching the Word of God, sound doctrine, etc., and God will take care of His part!  What a price our Savior paid for a Church/Bride&#8230;w/o spot or wrinkle.<br />
&#8220;&#8230;&#8230;,and NARROW is the gate, and FEW there be that find it&#8230;..&#8221;  Lord Jesus, help us.</p>
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		By: Redeemed		</title>
		<link>https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2011/02/25/chuck-smith-from-calvary-chapel-entertains-rick-warren/#comment-249876</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Redeemed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2013 14:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Larry, this is old news. Recently Chuck Smith confirmed that his embracing of Rick Warren at Greg Laurie&#039;s Harvest Crusade was not a fluke. He had Warren as an honored guest on his daily radio program. One can still probably find it in the archives if one is so inclined to do the research.

In reading aback through the comments, one can only wonder about people like “mike” who are undoubtedly sincere and his pastor who is serving the Lord has or will do in light of this event.

Blind loyalty to any human being or movement is an affront to our Lord and Savior.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry, this is old news. Recently Chuck Smith confirmed that his embracing of Rick Warren at Greg Laurie&#8217;s Harvest Crusade was not a fluke. He had Warren as an honored guest on his daily radio program. One can still probably find it in the archives if one is so inclined to do the research.</p>
<p>In reading aback through the comments, one can only wonder about people like “mike” who are undoubtedly sincere and his pastor who is serving the Lord has or will do in light of this event.</p>
<p>Blind loyalty to any human being or movement is an affront to our Lord and Savior.</p>
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		By: Larry		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Larry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2013 02:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Christian man wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Anyone remember Chuck Smith on stage with Kathryn Kulhman?

Lest you think this problem with Chuck Smith is only recent.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

As a matter of fact, i was watching a video of an early service at Costa Mesa..
The group &quot;Love Song&quot; was introduced by both Chuck Smith and Katherine Kuhlman.. 
They both came from the Four Square movement.. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christian man wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>Anyone remember Chuck Smith on stage with Kathryn Kulhman?</p>
<p>Lest you think this problem with Chuck Smith is only recent.</p>
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<p>As a matter of fact, i was watching a video of an early service at Costa Mesa..<br />
The group &#8220;Love Song&#8221; was introduced by both Chuck Smith and Katherine Kuhlman..<br />
They both came from the Four Square movement.. </p>
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		By: Kay		</title>
		<link>https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2011/02/25/chuck-smith-from-calvary-chapel-entertains-rick-warren/#comment-218881</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2012 18:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Peter, please tell me what you mean about Calvary Chapel pastor, Gibb Allen? Thanks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter, please tell me what you mean about Calvary Chapel pastor, Gibb Allen? Thanks.</p>
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		By: Redeemed		</title>
		<link>https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2011/02/25/chuck-smith-from-calvary-chapel-entertains-rick-warren/#comment-218814</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Redeemed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 12:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Steve, did anyone take a screen shot of this? No evidence of it there now.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, did anyone take a screen shot of this? No evidence of it there now.</p>
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		By: Steve		</title>
		<link>https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2011/02/25/chuck-smith-from-calvary-chapel-entertains-rick-warren/#comment-218800</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Deborah,

It has since been removed from www.calvarychapel.com (probably from concerns) but is still used as the favicon (this is the tiny picture next to the &#039;www.calvarychapel.com&#039; part).

Mason/Knight logos are very common in calvary&#039;s. Here is another one: 

www.calvaryccm.com]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deborah,</p>
<p>It has since been removed from <a target="_blank" href="http://www.calvarychapel.com"  rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.calvarychapel.com</a> (probably from concerns) but is still used as the favicon (this is the tiny picture next to the &#8216;www.calvarychapel.com&#8217; part).</p>
<p>Mason/Knight logos are very common in calvary&#8217;s. Here is another one: </p>
<p><a target="_blank" href="http://www.calvaryccm.com"  rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.calvaryccm.com</a></p>
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