Comments on: Redistribution of Wealth on the Way

By: Deborah (Discerning the World)

Deborah (Discerning the World) — Fri, 13 Aug 2010 22:33:31 +0000

Deborah, why are you joining in the kick me in the face brigade, I came to this board in good will, and actually supported this board. Your anger over me not being Pre-Trib is odd too since a} I admit I recently left this position and b} I accept there are born again believers with this view. So what gives?

You tell me? You said to me out of the blue:

I am sorry to find out this board is very pre-trib rapture, I don’t consider it a salvation issue but I consider it kind of odd since so many of the false teachers that are exposed on this board are very pre-trib.

I was hoping you would be on my side, maybe we are not so like-minded as I thought. It is a disappointment.

That is YOUR anger displayed against me being pre-trib and insinuating I am a false teacher.

As for standing up for you? Taking sides. This is not a kindergarten. I agree with BL over the link on your website. And based on your comment above to me about ‘not being like minded’ is shocking because as born again Christians we agree because the Holy Spirit does not tell one person one thing and another something different. We all know the exact same truths. Sometimes some of us take a bit longer to catch onto things and when we learn the truth because the Holy Spirit teaches us and we LISTEN TO HIM and the lights come on and we move onto the next obstacle.

This is BL’s first comment to you regarding the links on your website:

“Deborah, you may want to take a look at BB’s site. You are listed as a link along with Lighthouse Trails. The site is a real mixed bag. Some links are anti-pretrib and some other stuff that just didn’t set right with my spirit. You can form your own opinion, but I am just giving you a heads up to check it out for yourself.” http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/02/17/dr-chuck-missler-swansat-and-the-auric%e2%84%a2-currency/#comment-17891

No where do I see any personal nasty comments made about you. Yet you have continued to be hostile to BL and got very personal and threw names like Trojan Horse, Gameplaying, Lying, An ulterior agenda. Over what I ask? Over the fact BL was actually correct? hmm.

Actually I don’t even know why I am having this conversation.

You have now established in your own words that you are not like minded to those on this website and you are sorely disappointed that you now know that we are hold fast to the rapture. Well I am sorry that you feel this way. Please do go else where where you can inter-act with like minded people.

By: Elmarie A

Elmarie A — Fri, 13 Aug 2010 19:06:13 +0000

Biblebeliever

Deborah, why are you joining in the kick me in the face brigade, I came to this board in good will, and actually supported this board.

Who are you calling ”the kick me in the face brigade” ?

I am going to stand up in defence of BL here if I may.
Burning Lamp has been on this blog for some time now and is much respected for only showing love en care toward all who comment on this blog. I have never heard BL speak one word of insult or hurt to anyone. No BB you know I was looking at the comments from BL toward you and I cannot find where BL once said any thing of insult. BL only wanted to know about a link on your website that felt uncomfortable with.I feel you owe BL an apology. But that is just a suggestion and not a command.

We are told the following in the word of God about Love for each other.

Romans 12:10
Love one another with brotherly affection [as members of one family], giving precedence and showing honor to one another.

1 Peter 4:9
Practice hospitality to one another (those of the household of faith). [Be hospitable, be a lover of strangers, with brotherly affection for the unknown guests, the foreigners, the poor, and all others who come your way who are of Christ’s body.] And [in each instance] do it ungrudgingly (cordially and graciously, without complaining but as representing Him).

2 Peter 1:6-8 (Amplified Bible)

6And in [exercising] knowledge [develop] self-control, and in [exercising] self-control [develop] steadfastness (patience, endurance), and in [exercising] steadfastness [develop] godliness (piety),

7And in [exercising] godliness [develop] brotherly affection, and in [exercising] brotherly affection [develop] Christian love.

8For as these qualities are yours and increasingly abound in you, they will keep [you] from being idle or unfruitful unto the [[a]full personal] knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ (the Messiah, the Anointed One).

Grace and peace

By: Biblebeliever

Biblebeliever — Fri, 13 Aug 2010 17:53:06 +0000

Deborah, why are you joining in the kick me in the face brigade, I came to this board in good will, and actually supported this board. Your anger over me not being Pre-Trib is odd too since a} I admit I recently left this position and b} I accept there are born again believers with this view.

So what gives?

By: Deborah (Discerning the World)

Deborah (Discerning the World) — Fri, 13 Aug 2010 16:21:00 +0000

In reply to Biblebeliever. BB

I am sorry to find out this board is very pre-trib rapture, I dont consider it a salvation issue but I consider it kind of odd since so many of the false teachers that are exposed on this board are very pre-trib

I am sorry to find out that you only now found out that this blog is very very very very very very very very very very very very RAPTURE orientated.

I was hoping you would be on my side, maybe we are not so like-minded as I thought. It is a disappointment.

Wow, does the Holy Spirit not abide in your BB, for HE DOES ABIDE IN ME.

By: Biblebeliever

Biblebeliever — Fri, 13 Aug 2010 15:27:26 +0000

I don’t think he has been nice, not at all. But I won’t argue this one, not worth it. I was hoping this could be a place where I wouldnt be silenced, and told I am a “basher” for sincere beliefs. This person insulted my blog saying it was dark, and would not hear me out. I can detect those who are playing the ‘change agent script”. He did not approach me as a Christian who had some disagreements but started in right away and the conversation was not honest but seeking to convince the board of my overall “horribleness” right at the get-go when no one here even barely knew me and focusing on his own holiness.

I am sorry to find out this board is very pre-trib rapture, I dont consider it a salvation issue but I consider it kind of odd since so many of the false teachers that are exposed on this board are very pre-trib.

I was hoping you would be on my side, maybe we are not so like-minded as I thought. It is a disappointment.

By: Pete

Pete — Fri, 13 Aug 2010 14:05:03 +0000

There is lots about Buffets initiative on various Christian websites. Few of them actually report the real issues. Is God really impressed by the double dealing benfactors? The widows mite comes to mind.

By: Deborah (Discerning the World)

Deborah (Discerning the World) — Fri, 13 Aug 2010 12:13:17 +0000

In reply to Biblebeliever.

I’m kind of weirded out by what your poster Burning Lamp said about my blog, implying I am of a “dark spirit”. I do want an answer to that. This is a remark, that seems to come from someone with an agenda. I call them out now, don’t even waste my time, when I see someone who is not dealing with me as an honest sincere person [disagreement is ok, gameplaying and lies are not]. Be careful Deborah, even a website like this could get some Trojan Horse types coming on here.

Ok, you know what. I can read. And I read every single comment that’s on this website. I read them thoroughly. And I gotta say that you are way out of line. BL has every right along with every other reader to highlight a problem. Your name calling is beyond comprehension. And believe me I have had every type of person come on here and met some in person who were even worse. So don’t even start to try play human shield (let’s protect deborah) here cos it aint gonna work.

Now since this comment BL has been nothing but nice to you and you have been nothing but nasty. BL made some valid points about one specific link on your website (wolf in sheeps clothing) being very anti pre-tribulation and you can discuss this matter here since you are very anti rapture and we most definitely 100% with a cherry on top believe Jesus is coming to rapture the church: http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/01/06/the-rapture-an-article-to-knock-your-socks-off/

By: Biblebeliever

Biblebeliever — Thu, 12 Aug 2010 23:58:10 +0000

When someone tells us how holy they are over and over, that is a red flag. Burning Flag have used other parts of the “script” as well. His aim was to discredit me the minute I stepped on this blog {I have been here for a very short time} and I had no issue with him whatsoever. Let me remind the readers, that he told people here my blog was of a dark spirit. I am noticing now he is using the line “too preoccupied with the dark side” to cover his dismissal of my blog and who I am as a person in warning about things. Also when someone tells us how “holy” they are abusing Christian terms, that is another red flag. Consider it a personal petpeeve when I see Christian terms abused for someone to assure entire message boards or blogs, how “holy and loving” they are.
I have no problem in standing up against this person, and I have noticed reading through a series of their postings, the answer is to water down, and ignore what is happening. There are many invested in wanting Christians to do just that so they are deceived.

By: Burning Lamp

Burning Lamp — Thu, 12 Aug 2010 04:16:33 +0000

Oh my – I just saw this. I could be a Trojan Horse? Gameplaying? Lying? An ulterior agenda? Methinks BB’s imagination is in overdrive. This is what happens when Christians become too occupied with the dark side. Questioning my heart, my name and casting some pretty serious accusations. He asked for my observations of his site and I complied. I tried to speak the truth in love. I have tried to treat him graciously while contending for the faith.

I hope that my history of posting here has given me a fairly decent track record of being Bible-based. I have no agenda but standing for the truth of the Bible and to serve my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. I hardly think anyone needs to be warned about me like I am some kind of threat. That is truly sad and is a first for me coming from a fellow watchman.

These words are hurtful – they are personal attacks. I spoke of doctrinal issues – I never questioned BB’s integrity or faith. I will not defend myself or discuss this anymore.

By: Biblebeliever

Biblebeliever — Wed, 11 Aug 2010 00:42:58 +0000

Yes there are severe problems here, Deborah, dying small towns, unemployment that is far worse then what they are telling [God has provided for my household] I’ve read and studied some problems about SA, seems crime is at the top of the list there, and getting worse. I lived in a dangerous big city in America, don’t to repeat that again. Just as most in the churches are in a trance, most of the voting public are as well. Im not sure the votes are even counting anymore.

I’m kind of weirded out by what your poster Burning Lamp said about my blog, implying I am of a “dark spirit”. I do want an answer to that. This is a remark, that seems to come from someone with an agenda. I call them out now, don’t even waste my time, when I see someone who is not dealing with me as an honest sincere person [disagreement is ok, gameplaying and lies are not]. Be careful Deborah, even a website like this could get some Trojan Horse types coming on here.